The major difference between Livingston and Ball: Ball is just typical “bad knee” situation but Livingston was an impact injury not something degenerative
It really wasn’t that quiet before the Gobert trade. Doogie and others had been talking about Minnesota having interest in guys like Turner, Gobert, Capela, etc for days
It’s such an odd feeling having a coach and GM on a Minnesota sports franchise that I trust to make the right move no matter what it is. The Twins and Wild are dumpster fires and we’ll see about the Vikings latest incarnation, but whatever TC does I’ll be fine with it.
To contend for a championship, all they really need to improve is point guard position. We need someone to take over longterm at that spot. Conley is on his last leg now. And we need to get more minutes for NAZ.
No but IF Garza is ready to play, Naz takes KATs spot, Garza off the bench and another solid 2-way wing. Not to mention freeing up a good chunk of money.
My guess is wolves make a move on draft day . Although not much they can really do unless it's a Kat or Rudy trade or if you moving one of Wendell or minott to maybe move up in the draft
💥 The obvious reason why Towns won't be traded is because no other team wants him. That's why Towns wasn't traded prior to last season's trade deadline
They could at least get a complementary piece for towns, some team will want his offense. He sucks though, I'm amazed people still want him on the wolves
Let me be the first one to say this. I think we need a new coach and I have just the right person in mind. How about Minnesota born and bread in Minneapolis Devean George, he has championship experience with Lakers, Golden State, and The Mavericks. Plus he’s available he’s just selling real estate. I know you guys love Finch but I think it’s time for a change. Can we put this question on the table at some point? If I might throw one name into to fire why don’t we pick up Malik Monk he’s did really good as a SG coming off the bench he also almost beat Naz Reid out for 6 man of the year.
lol. Absolutely not. Teams is in win now mode and you want a coach with 0 experience at any level? He played in an entire different era and showed no smarts while he played. We couldn’t afford Monk.
So we should dump the coach who got us the furthest we've gone in 20 years for someone off the street, because they're FROM Minnesota? Fuck man that's a hot take if I have ever heard one
These fathers who think they are going to tell the league where their son is going to play😂 It's like shut up, you don't decide who drafts your son or where they are going to play
Taking picks for Towns is still smart. Those picks are currency!!! TWolves can wait until they find a team with whom thay may trade those picks for a more ideal complementary player for Ant. Picks are currency for a future trade.
@@eliseeden TWolves have had towns available to trade for years and NO ONE wants the child in their sandbox. Towns is not looked favorably among other teams
@@nealbaker1718 Easily an w/o KAT. Ok. Sure. Whatever. Only way that works is if Garza is ready to play 20mpg. Idk if he’s ready but trust coaches to know. Again, any pick will be worth squat for we’re a darn good team rendering those picks 20+ at best. Easily win w/o KAT so what would a 25th first round pick be worth really?
Yet no-one has put rosters together that been built mostly through draft. Both Denver’s and Minnesota has added key pieces. To supplement thier drafted players gerson built most of this wolves team and he doing similar things behind back with Knicks you can see his fingerprints on players selected after they screwed draft pick after draft pick up suddenly they draft well lol
I'm over not drafting Curry. The Wolves would have just ruined him any ways. They would have traded him away and he would have become a big star somewhere else.
There isn't a team in the league who would send a top 10 player for Morant. I know Memphis ain't trading Ja but if he pulls another stunt with a gun again, Memphis is F'ed.
@@SodaWasDeleted it's a scratcher... tit for tat... however Naz gets more minutes, Garza is upgraded to bench, do gain another perimeter 3, D, and ball handler that probably are going to lose with Slomo, but going to miss the counterpunch that KAT can provide. I'd be better KAT for Durant but ain't now way that'll happen.
since when has Alex Caruso been a game changer? I guess OKC doesn't need any more draft picks 😂this trade doesn't make okc any better. It's alright, if the Wolves had drafted Steph, he wouldn't have turned into who he is now. We just didn't have the right management to build around him, even if he had shown a little stardom early on. They would've found every way to screw him up. They had a very exciting team in Rubio/Love and couldn't find a way to put the right pieces around Love, who by all means, was in the convo as the best PF in the game. They've just been a sorry franchise since KG's prime days.
Id always said that with Curry's early ankle issues I could see the incompetent management of the time just trading him away thinking he was nothing special. Then wherever he went he'd have likely developed into at least 75% of the star he became in Golden State
Kuzma shot down a move to Dallas. The man got a ring as a role player, and is fine wasting his career making bank in DC with zero pressure or expectations.
OKC has gotten better already so the T Wolves are slow again !! Falling behind not winning a Championship in Minnesota we just don't go for the throat and are slow on any trades they are always behind the curve not ahead of it ...And that's where you have to be. MC has little value other than a bench guy ..you have to get a scoring point guard at all costs
@@Tyler.johnson.enjoyer.6 I didn't want him anyway but the point is OKC found a way! They improved their team and moved forward .The Wolves wont and they will fall behind watch n see
@adampepin9944 they will be better. Giddey right now is just a playmaker. Caruso is a playmaker, aggressive defender and he loves to attack on offense. Caruso is that Guy. Giddey will grow into that but he isnt ready yet
The only people that would want Suggs for KAT are idiots. He's terrible as a distributor. Only fans who don't understand basketball would want him. Shows how Mackey knows nothing.
If the Wolves can trade Towns, and somehow get Dejounte Murray back in return, they would be the best defensive team in a long, long time with a starting lineup of Murray, Edwards, McDaniels, Reid & Gobert.
@@jaimeb1281 Okay, fair enough, but the defensive tools, and some history, is still there and looks intriguing on paper next to all those other top tier defenders.
@@danielsharp3683 Edwards is a great engine on offense, and Reid and Murray bring the offense too, plus McDaniels has shown some potential to take over a game when he has it going.
@@eliseeden Look at the games while Towns was out, they were dominant on defense most of the time, and if you add someone like Murray in replacement for Towns (who won't be missed when it's all said and done) then you should win the West.
Such a stupid take. Not only would we get pennies on the dollar for him, but he is so much more important to our team than some people seem to realize.
The major difference between Livingston and Ball: Ball is just typical “bad knee” situation but Livingston was an impact injury not something degenerative
It really wasn’t that quiet before the Gobert trade. Doogie and others had been talking about Minnesota having interest in guys like Turner, Gobert, Capela, etc for days
1 day before the trade for Gobert buzz.
OKC should be a serious contender next season. That Caruso move was perfect for them. Wolves need to get better if they want a top-3 seed again.
KAT for Paul George would be a David Khan move. 40 games of Paul George who disappears in the playoffs definitely makes them better
I think PG is a free agent? Or he can opt out
@@discgolf2479sign and trade
@@discgolf2479they could do a sign and trade very unlikely tho
He played 74 games last season. 🤡
@@WheresWaldo05 most games in a long time.
Jalen Suggs is a great trade choice! Paul George is ready for the old folks home. Tyus Jones maybe nice
Why would Orlando... who is clearly on the rise... trade away one of their young players... who took a major step forward last year???
If the Wolves traded Kat for George, that would most likely have Jaden coming off the bench most games. Not sure how much he would love that.
Suggs is interesting: can defend at a high level, has improved his shot, but his assists are way too low. 2.7 in 27 minutes of play last year.
It’s such an odd feeling having a coach and GM on a Minnesota sports franchise that I trust to make the right move no matter what it is. The Twins and Wild are dumpster fires and we’ll see about the Vikings latest incarnation, but whatever TC does I’ll be fine with it.
Where’s Kyle? He can’t be that busy with Dane Moore s podcast 🤔
enjoying a beautiful pnw summer my boy
I think as flagrant howls took off more they brought Judd in. I don’t think they are replacing Kyle they just have more episodes now
He has a 9-5 too…
He's still crying.
To contend for a championship, all they really need to improve is point guard position. We need someone to take over longterm at that spot. Conley is on his last leg now. And we need to get more minutes for NAZ.
Did Mackey just include Jalen Suggs and KAT in a trade scenario? Damn y’all hate KAT that much?
No but IF Garza is ready to play, Naz takes KATs spot, Garza off the bench and another solid 2-way wing. Not to mention freeing up a good chunk of money.
My guess is wolves make a move on draft day . Although not much they can really do unless it's a Kat or Rudy trade or if you moving one of Wendell or minott to maybe move up in the draft
The intro is depressing. We went on to win 0 games at home after Ant said that.
Dallas just got hot that series the first couple games was close tho
Bring ya ass to MN where you'll leave quicker than ya got here with a dub
Damn Giddy guilty in the court of public opinion. Giddy will do much better in Chicago
"These guys survived the David khan Era of Timberwolves basketball and live to tell about it." 😂🤣
First time ever watching flagrant wolves???
💥 The obvious reason why Towns won't be traded is because no other team wants him. That's why Towns wasn't traded prior to last season's trade deadline
You're nuts if you think no teams want Towns.
They could at least get a complementary piece for towns, some team will want his offense. He sucks though, I'm amazed people still want him on the wolves
@@danielorth2244KAT is a solid all around player. Just look at the numbers. Only way KAT is traded is if Garza is ready to go. That’s a big IF.
@@danielorth2244
Picks and bad contracts today; complimentary player(s) tomorrow
Kat for Murray and Bogdanovich or Durant.
Let me be the first one to say this. I think we need a new coach and I have just the right person in mind. How about Minnesota born and bread in Minneapolis Devean George, he has championship experience with Lakers, Golden State, and The Mavericks. Plus he’s available he’s just selling real estate. I know you guys love Finch but I think it’s time for a change. Can we put this question on the table at some point? If I might throw one name into to fire why don’t we pick up Malik Monk he’s did really good as a SG coming off the bench he also almost beat Naz Reid out for 6 man of the year.
lol. Absolutely not. Teams is in win now mode and you want a coach with 0 experience at any level? He played in an entire different era and showed no smarts while he played.
We couldn’t afford Monk.
So we should dump the coach who got us the furthest we've gone in 20 years for someone off the street, because they're FROM Minnesota? Fuck man that's a hot take if I have ever heard one
I only trade Towns for :
Randle
Bogdonavic
Burks
Is the only deal that could be good for the Wolves
🤢🤮
Jalen Suggs for Towns this guy of the email is crazy 😂
With slo mo & Morris bring free agents we really don't have many pieces to move
Plenty of pieces to move, just don’t want to move them.
Giddy is much like Lonzo, without the 3 PT shot.
These fathers who think they are going to tell the league where their son is going to play😂
It's like shut up, you don't decide who drafts your son or where they are going to play
Your going to need picks if your going to stay in Luxury Tax hell!
TWolves
Taking picks for Towns is still smart. Those picks are currency!!!
TWolves can wait until they find a team with whom thay may trade those picks for a more ideal complementary player for Ant.
Picks are currency for a future trade.
Not for a solid team like wolves. Any GM will consider those picks 20+ at best and thus not worth much.
@@eliseeden
TWolves have had towns available to trade for years and NO ONE wants the child in their sandbox.
Towns is not looked favorably among other teams
@@eliseeden
Picks can be bundled for player(s) with which to compliment Ant. TWolves can easily win games without Towns
@@nealbaker1718 complete total and utter BS. If we wanted to trade KAT we could. Best shooting big in the league. Damn near 50-40-90 club.
@@nealbaker1718 Easily an w/o KAT. Ok. Sure. Whatever. Only way that works is if Garza is ready to play 20mpg. Idk if he’s ready but trust coaches to know.
Again, any pick will be worth squat for we’re a darn good team rendering those picks 20+ at best. Easily win w/o KAT so what would a 25th first round pick be worth really?
Jaden coming off the bench would be nice
Bronny... an under 6' 2" SG... that can't shoot. This guy should not even be an UDFA. Maybe just a summer league tryout.
They need to trade for Andrew Wiggins I think he could get better
You guys are giving tim connely too much credit, doogie said this week that anyone could assemble rosters like Minny and Denver.
Yet no-one has put rosters together that been built mostly through draft. Both Denver’s and Minnesota has added key pieces. To supplement thier drafted players gerson built most of this wolves team and he doing similar things behind back with Knicks you can see his fingerprints on players selected after they screwed draft pick after draft pick up suddenly they draft well lol
I'm over not drafting Curry. The Wolves would have just ruined him any ways. They would have traded him away and he would have become a big star somewhere else.
Any chance Memphis is tired of Ja Morant? Could Wolves clubhouse, Conley et al, provide stabilizing environment?
Lol. Memphis ain't trading Ja for anyone other than a top 10 player
3 team deal: Morant to MN, Towns to ATL, Trae Young to MEM.
There isn't a team in the league who would send a top 10 player for Morant. I know Memphis ain't trading Ja but if he pulls another stunt with a gun again, Memphis is F'ed.
He's already injury prone and clearly isn't practicing his game in his free time. I wouldn't want Ja here
I’m not mad @ PG for KAT
I’m just thinking about when we meet Jokic again
It’s arguably worse.
PG is also a playoff choker like KAT. Who’s also older and shorter.
Heck no.
@@SodaWasDeleted it's a scratcher... tit for tat... however Naz gets more minutes, Garza is upgraded to bench, do gain another perimeter 3, D, and ball handler that probably are going to lose with Slomo, but going to miss the counterpunch that KAT can provide. I'd be better KAT for Durant but ain't now way that'll happen.
no Kat meeting Denver is a sure sweep for Denver
since when has Alex Caruso been a game changer? I guess OKC doesn't need any more draft picks 😂this trade doesn't make okc any better. It's alright, if the Wolves had drafted Steph, he wouldn't have turned into who he is now. We just didn't have the right management to build around him, even if he had shown a little stardom early on. They would've found every way to screw him up. They had a very exciting team in Rubio/Love and couldn't find a way to put the right pieces around Love, who by all means, was in the convo as the best PF in the game. They've just been a sorry franchise since KG's prime days.
Casual.
@@AdamWheeler59 pro
Curry woulda had all the same stats. Just not the rings.
🤡
@@slow_Jo ah duh. Hindsight is 20/20. Not the same team now. GSW is fine and Wolves coming. Paying all that $ to Wigs for no-shows.
Id always said that with Curry's early ankle issues I could see the incompetent management of the time just trading him away thinking he was nothing special. Then wherever he went he'd have likely developed into at least 75% of the star he became in Golden State
How about Kat for Kyle Kuzma and Tyus Jones? I think Tyus would need to be a sign and trade or something like that.
I’m all the way out on Kuzma. Dude is a sandbag on defense and doesn’t do enough on the other end to compensate.
Horrible trade
Kuzma shot down a move to Dallas. The man got a ring as a role player, and is fine wasting his career making bank in DC with zero pressure or expectations.
Lonzo Ball is poison.
OKC has gotten better already so the T Wolves are slow again !! Falling behind not winning a Championship in Minnesota we just don't go for the throat and are slow on any trades they are always behind the curve not ahead of it ...And that's where you have to be. MC has little value other than a bench guy ..you have to get a scoring point guard at all costs
What were we supposed to trade to get Alex Caruso like actually tho
@@Tyler.johnson.enjoyer.6 I didn't want him anyway but the point is OKC found a way! They improved their team and moved forward .The Wolves wont and they will fall behind watch n see
Idk how much better OKC got. I love Alex Caruso, but Giddey is talented.
@@danielsharp3683 You didn't want him? So you are literally complaining about nothing! Literally
@adampepin9944 they will be better. Giddey right now is just a playmaker. Caruso is a playmaker, aggressive defender and he loves to attack on offense. Caruso is that Guy. Giddey will grow into that but he isnt ready yet
Should have traded NAW for caruso. Trade gobert back to Utah for markanen. Kat was the reason they beat nuggets but the reason they lost to the mavs.
lol absolutely not. Why would Utah take Rudy for Lari?
The only people that would want Suggs for KAT are idiots. He's terrible as a distributor. Only fans who don't understand basketball would want him. Shows how Mackey knows nothing.
If the Wolves can trade Towns, and somehow get Dejounte Murray back in return, they would be the best defensive team in a long, long time with a starting lineup of Murray, Edwards, McDaniels, Reid & Gobert.
@@jaimeb1281 Okay, fair enough, but the defensive tools, and some history, is still there and looks intriguing on paper next to all those other top tier defenders.
Defense don't win Championships ...these days Offense does
@@danielsharp3683 Edwards is a great engine on offense, and Reid and Murray bring the offense too, plus McDaniels has shown some potential to take over a game when he has it going.
@@wileyschmittwe already were/are best D in the league. We need consistent role players. McD and NAW disappeared vs Mavs.
@@eliseeden Look at the games while Towns was out, they were dominant on defense most of the time, and if you add someone like Murray in replacement for Towns (who won't be missed when it's all said and done) then you should win the West.
Trade gobert
Why? Utah Jazz is the reason why you guys got that far. Silly
No
Such a stupid take. Not only would we get pennies on the dollar for him, but he is so much more important to our team than some people seem to realize.
Pass the stupid sauce
@@mdigglerhe doesn't fit ant
Hmmm 🤔 what if we trade KAT and bring back Jimmy buckets 😁
Ya need to trade the fake mj before he eats too much popeyes and look like pillsbury doughboy.
Go get laid bruh this is just getting sad 😂
@@catsfordays6096 You should tell yourself that cuz you stalk me ;)
@@StillKeepOnLosing how old are you fr lol
@@catsfordays6096 I'm your Daddy.... Son
Trollin'. Vikings suck.
KAT for whoever wants to pay him!