Schaeffer Million Mile Gasoline Engine Teardown
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- See what the experts at Ranken Technical College discover when they teardown our customer's million mile gasoline engine. What surprises does this high mileage engine hold? Check out the big reveal.
people underestimate the importance of proper maintinance with their vehicals and wonder why they dont last
Bigrig Bailey yea got a 90' civic original engine and trans.always changed the oil on time, got about ten jugs of used oil waiting to be recycled.
I e-mailed Schaeffer & asked questions. Below is the response that I received (part 1 of 2 posts):
"Thank you for your interest in our product line. The million mile gasoline engine used our Schaeffer Supreme 7000 from the time it was brand new on 8,000 mile intervals. We market the Supreme 7000 for 7,000 mile intervals and the Supreme 9000 for 9,000 mile intervals in the passenger car/gasoline market. We have much more capability with extended drain intervals on our heavy duty products."
I work in the Oilfields and we run lots of fords that all we run . I was a mechanic for halliburton and I would have to do work on these 5.4 3vs and 2v trucks. Timing chains and tensioners is mainly all I did. But our trucks had over 500k on our travel trucks for employees who work on frac sites. Blew my mind on how reliable these engines are
Other modle of fords reliable is debatable lol. Even with other brands. Certain cars are hit or miss
People Say There Useless Because It Was There Fault..
Take Care Of Your Engines!
"Brand new never touched econoline van for sale! Zero miles!" Lol
I believe it. I've got an 07 F-150 with 201,000 miles, never had any problems whatsoever with it. I've always used Mobil 1 and switched to Schaeffer Oil this year and can already tell a difference with how much cleaner it is when I change it and how much quieter it is. Great product.
Are you referring to synthetic ?.
Yeah, I've always used full synthetic.
It’s possible. A friend of mine get +1M/miles in a Toyota Land Cruiser in Dominican Republic. Maintenance performed at Dealer, they use Synthetic Penzoil and when he reached the 1M the Dealer put a new engine for free and took the old one for study 📖
(part 2 of 2)
"The engine was a 4.6 liter Ford engine and the van was used to transport prisoners around the country. From what I understand, with certain types of prisoners that they drive straight through to the destination only stopping to switch drivers. We are not sure about the brand of filter, but they did not have any extra filtration on the engine."
Woulda been nice to do a compression test before tear down.
I got a brand new 1994 Mustang GT when I was 17. It has been my daily driver ever since. Schaeffer's 9000 is my engine oil. It runs and idles like new. I do plenty of other upkeep to the car, but the oil does its part to keep the engine going.
Ive been running Shaeffers for almost 20 years now,its incredible oil..I love the x7000 15w40,I have air cooled Kohler Commands with close to 5000 hrs that run like new,and are run full load 3500-3700 rpm all day,minimal oil usage,and they get x7000 and a wix filter every 100-150 hrs...
there are more than a few of the Ford Mod series engines over a million miles. I'm sure there are a bunch of taxi cabs with those engines with milage close to that. I have seen several in person over 500k
I know some passengers Company that use these vans, they go from N.Y/Boston round trip EVERYDAY 😳
Taxicabs, as in Crown Vics? Those will have the 4.6 liter version in this engine series.
I wonder how far it would have gone. Put that thing back together with some new gaskets and run her!!!! i have personally worked on ford 5.4 liters in shuttle vans with over 600k on them, running semi synthetic oil and 10k change intervals.
I believe a lot of what I see, however a timing chain will not last that long. For a million miles, that would have to be at least the second chain and ready to be replaced.
yeah, that would be stretched all to hell
A 4.6 2v found in crown victorias will turn a mile miles stock.
@@cornelius6304 exactly this, certain timing setups last forever,the 2 v isn’t known for stretched chains, if this was a 3v engine it likely would not have went that far on the original chain or cam phasers .
I’ve got a 1987 Oldsmobile Delta 88 coupe with 495,000 on the original engine and transmission you guys could tear down....just gotta rebuild it lol.
Using your 5w40 in my Corolla. Not a common application I know but the motor runs so well with this oil. This oil actually cleaned up some left behind varnish left by Castrol in around 2,000 miles.
FORDS RUN FORVER SOLD MY RANGER WITH 330,000 MILES STILL RAN GREAT
Looks like they rubbed Schaeffers oil on their heads
lol
🤣
Would have been nice to see the oil control ring, see how clogged it was or wasn't.
Engine did look amazing, oil pan, valve covers.
Schaeffers synthetic oil made in St louis by the oldest company in the city. Its the best oil i have ever used and will for life.
Paul F i really couldnt say between Schaffer and amsoil i think both are supper sweet
It's how cars are. If you're not cheap with "it", it won't be expensive with "you."
2:23 engines that have that many miles on the highway dont last that long WTF are you talking about highway driving is the easiest driving a car can do
stop n go city traffic, and short trips where the car doesn't completely get up to temperature is hardest on engine and oil
Your right
How often was the oil changed and what type of filter was used?
I use Schaeffer in everything I have. A 02 4runner with 247000 on it. A 98 Electra Glide Harley now with a 107 S&S engine with 22000 miles on the S&S. About to change a new Road Glide over to it as well. I was convinced of Schaeffer oil when I had a friend who was riding atv's with several of us one day after a big rainstorm. He sank the atv in a muddy creek. After cleaning plugs and spinning it over, it started. It had creek water in the oil from when it died and pulled it in from the exhaust. He rode it back out and did not change that oil till he made it back home. He still has that atv today. Still runs.
I have an 92 FLHTC . I used to run AMS oil 20w50, the engine was always noisy. Then 3 years ago they did something to the oil. After an hour of highway driving oil pressure dropped to practically zero at an idle. It never did that before. Since then I have talked with 5 other people who had the same oil pressure problem, I switched to VR1 and it was better. Now I am running 7000 20w50 and a Hubb reusable oil filter. I have gained 5 psi on the highway and the engine is a lot quitter . Just about 2500 rpm the only sound I hear is the exhaust.
Need a teardown/inspection of the valvetrain & oil pump.
Good quality gas, driving mostly on highway, not much acceleration and constant driving speed: these are all things that can make a motor last that many miles.
My old 4.6L f-150 is at 520000km and there has been NO mechanical replacements of any parts except plugs and a single injector they are the toughest modern american engine at least in 2 valve form in my opinion. Police and taxi drivers engine of choice for the last 22 years
i have 8.1 chev and has 170000 on it like brand new inside i just did crank senser and valve cover gaskets and pan gasket motor spotless and runs smooth and quit
Amazing on this oil
Just because it has a million miles on it doesn't mean it hasn't had major engine or transmission work. They never discuss the maintenance records or what was done over the years. Everything looks new inside because it probably is new. Im sure Schaeffer oil is good. Most oil is good. If you change your oil regularly, the engine will last longer, but to try and sell this as though nothing has been done to this engine because it's "always had Schaeffer oil" seems like a stretch. I'd like to hear you talk about the documented maintenance to back your claims. Just my two cents
Cool story bro. Keep your 2 cents.
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Nice.
Curious about valve stem tip and guide wear.
i run this oil in everything i own its the best 3 friction moderfiers thank you schaeffer
You have never seen that inside an engine with that many miles, because you have never seen an engine with that many miles.
I question it. We don't know how many times it could overhauled.
Why do I feel like shooting a game of pool?
The kendal oil engin tear down they actualley measured the parts. And it was cleaner but a milli ok. Miles that's about 7,00,000 more than I would do.
doesn't matter if its ford, chevy or dodge, no v configuration gas engine after that amount of mileage will ever look like that and still have a crosshatch. an inline diesel I have seen it with my own eyes so I can believe that but just not a gas engine...my Toyota 22re which is 10 times as reliable as this piece cylinder was smoothed out at 332,000 miles when I tore it apart and it was well worn. oil was changed every 3000 since new with mobil 1 oil. never ran super hard but all highway miles and only idled for 5-10 minutes on cold mornings to warm up..tore it apart to change the timing chain and ended up sending the block out to get punched out after I saw how much wear there was...
So everyone, what you learned here was change your oil and filter routinely and don’t extend service intervals beyond OEM standards. This particular oil did not ensure the end result, the owners servicing did.
This is kind of surprising I grew up in a family who did nothing but run forwards and I have the say the 5.4 3 valve is a piece of Krapp engine. I know my truck person has gone in for the timing chain replacement 3 times at a spout do for 4th and I've only had the truck forward 2 years I'm kind of interests to see what this oil will do if it is as good as they talk about as you know the 2006 model F150 uses the oil for its timing chain tension er's and once the oil starts to lose tension as starts to lose its ability to keep the chains tight and I'll be intrested see how this does with that situation
Just put the 2 valve metal tensioners on it and lock out the phasers... It's too expensive to keep doing the timing
Someone below has stated that schaeffer is recommending their 9000 series oil (which is full synthetic) to be changed every 9000 miles. So my question is, Amsoil is recommending their signature series to be replaced every 25,000 miles.
How is schaeffer better or equivalent to amsoil then?
By the way, im not an amsoil fan. Im on the fence deciding which oil to use on my new car (either schaeffer 9k or amsoil signature series) and plan to run each 10k miles (city drive) and have each one tested by blackstone labs, and then compare the results and be convinced by the numbers instead of “people’s OPINIONS”
Andrew atm have you done the tests yet if so what happened??
Not to mention, there are documented cases of people going 400,000mi on Amsoil with NO oil change.
25k miles between oil changes just seems excessive. I'm sure that the synthetic oil itself will remain effective for even longer, but the issue is contaminants from the engine. And even the cleanest burning engine will dirty up engine oil far before 25k miles. I personally wouldn't go past 10k miles- max, on any oil change. And that seems like its pushing it. My 2 pesos. Cheers
@@giggiddy You would think. But in practice, the oil remains clean comparatively. Also, and as a result, i usually change my filter 2 or 3 times before i change the oil.
I had a 1979 Datsun 210 coupe it had regular Penzoil put in it, by a mechanic when there was AMSOIL in there that had only 2,000 miles on it. Well up in Nevada in a small town called CALIENTE we had snow and during the morning when I went to go start it up, it would take 5 cranks before it started. Now 1 month later I go and get ASMOIL in the engine. There is still snow on the ground, it has been a week since I put oil in it, so I go to start the engine and it cranks over once and starts I was like wait a minute WTH so I shut it down and start it up one crank boom starts so that is when I became a fan of AMSOIL. I have never heard of a Million mile engine not rebuilt looking new and having very little wear on the engine just amazing 😲
Irv Gordan 3,000,000 miles using Castro’s GTX every 3500 miles oil changes,
Highway miles are better than city miles or driving around town
Now these goofballs know this thing has new chains and guides a few times in its life come on.
Robert Craciun we have a 4.6 in a E van with 585000 no timing chain guides
Bet there is wear Marks though
My 2011 escape has 657000 no chain or guides
My 500k mile 4.6 never had front covers off. They ware from 5w20 oil and from low quality run at long OCI
Mileage means almost nothing if you take care of your car.
the oil now a days can go 5-6k miles easy but the detergants is another thing...
makes me think there was a good chunk of milage on the engine is the dirt and build up on the front cover doesnt look liek leaking it looks like seapage over the spand of a few years
The 3k change is an oil company/lube service sale tactic.
No, Jeremy, I've changed my own for 20+ years. What I commented is what I'm convinced of at this time.
Video made in 2013. Vehicle 10 years old.
1 million miles in 10 years = 100k miles per year.
100k miles / 365 = 274 miles per day.
As a rough estimate... I'd say it MIGHT not be fake. But who knows...
Glenn Conner We had a 2006 Silverado at my work the service techs used to travel store to store for machine repairs. In 5 years they racked up 320,000 miles on it. Not counting Sundays that truck averaged 213 miles a day. It can be done. It was replaced in 2011 and that Silverado has 185,000 on it so far.
+Glenn Conner consider fleet vehicles do not have a single driver. if a vehicle is ran around the clock, those miles are actually low. some of ours get 180 city miles in a 12 hour shift. we run them for 2 shifts. so easy 300 miles in 24 hours. there is some downtime so its not every day, but in 2-3 years, the vehicle is trashed and replaced
We had a contract delivery person who put 500 miles a day, five days a week, on his Prius. I average 25K miles per year in my work truck and that is just to get me from one place to another.
Glenn Conner I know some passengers Company that use these vans, they go from N.Y/Boston round trip EVERYDAY 😳
had days driving up to 1200 miles.my daily average it’s been 500 miles at day for the last 20 years.(I’ve seen some still ok at 1.3 million miles!)
after flipping it, try and sell it at around 20,000 mile mark. make some real money.
Oil change frequency?
ford strong !
show us the transmission
impressive. i will still run amsoil.
they missed the lifters and cam....wonder why ? not saying schaeffers is bad oil..probably right there with redline from everything i’ve read.
Now that's living proof of built ford tough.
+YouDontWannaFightMe a big V8 that makes like 130 hp better last a long time lol
No not really.
130 hp stock? Maybe in 1950
you are crazy....
Dogshit
What oil was the Schaffer’s
WOW!
Lol ive had two ford trucks now break 900k before i got rid of them lol good luck trying to swad me on any other truck to buy my chey only lasted 240k before the engine went out p.s. i only run amsoil signature series witch is a 50k oil life in my vehicles but still change the oil at 10k and recently went old skool on a 100% original 1995 f250 with a 460ci gas engine garage kept and bought it this year with only a tad over 89k on it for a still and i will not get rid of it i love the truck so much
On this specific engine, how often did they change the oil??
I looked and didn't see if the oil ran in this engine was std or synthetic.
From what I read it was supreme 7000 with 8000 change intervals.
This is Matt Farah's million mile lexus right?
no
God fucking damnit maybe if you watched the video you'd hear where they explain it's a E350
Sooo, 685 miles a day, eh?!
Built ford tough!! And proper maintenance
Looks like they pre cleaned and fitted it back together
I don’t trust the level of cleanliness
Seen a million mile engine video using mobil one oil years ago
I'm using Supreme 9000 Schaeffer Oil in my 2022 Ford Maverick 2.0 Ecoboost and I'm looking forward to a Million Miles.
no way 1mill miles it still has hone marks lol OR it was rebuilt
to reason why it can't gave hone marks
i dont must be cool to call people liars when you have no proof.
i dont agreed
Fuck i meant to say agreed
I’ve pulled a good few engines down with the hone marks and ring gap untouched after over 200k miles. Technically speaking with good lubrication, an engine should have the potential to last forever as the oil works by separating the the moving parts.
Just oil changes? I call BS
You can call BS like other folks and keep replacing engine parts. I myself was a skeptic but I tried it ends up its cheaper in the long run as you can safely run 7000 miles on there blend oil without sending it into the oil lab and on there full syn you can go 9000 miles. I run it in everything but wet clutch atv it will make the wet clutches slip. I have a 4.6L triton and never had the engine apart for anything and it runs like new no valve noise or timing chain noise this oil is in a class all of its own and I will never run anything else for one its cheaper as you don't have to change it every few thousand mile and most engines show a increase in fuel milage so that saves you money the oil pays for its self and the engine not wearing out is just an added bonus and no I'm not paid by schaeffer's. Note if you are running a sludge builder oil I won't mention the names but this oil cleans that sludge out and you may have to change your filter and even oil sooner on your 1st change if the oil turn black it needs changed. This oil runs clean my truck even after the oil has been in there 5k miles is still green in color as it is when you pour it out of the bottle and clear enough that you can see the writing on the dipstick threw the oil. This oil even stays clean in diesels for a long time.Most folks that sell this oil also have sample packs to send your oil into the lab to see how long you can run it in your engine some folks are running it 12-15k i personally like to just change it at the 7k so it stays clean and that gets the filter changed as well. I have seen the normal price of the blend from $6.50- $15 per quart even lower if the person it just trying to sell volume of the oil at or near cost. That figures out on the low end price to $3.25 per quart if you only doubled you oil change miles compared to your off the box store shelf oil so I don't know about you but I would not run off the shelf oil that cost $3.25 /qt in any engine even if I hated the engine LOL !
not bad for a 5.4..
As soon has he said ford I knew this was BS.
...and you will never be swayed by facts.
flagmichael don't confuse a liberal with facts.
Who wants to bet Johnny Rocket is driving Toyota Tercel?
Johnny Rocket lol your a loser
Hmmm, the fact that IT IS A FORD and it went a million miles is the best testimony ever!
Engine looks good, oil was definitely doing its job. But those Pistons look horrible. Why is it the entire rotating assembly is new spec but the Pistons and exterior rod discoloration is such black varnish?
He said the pistons were Teflon coated; Teflon is typically dark grey or dull black.
Seriously they didnt steam clean outside first? BTW do YOU trust that is actually true? I'd have to personally know the person and/or do vin vehicle history check, physically SEE documents proving who bought the car originally etc etc ....Cause any number of things COULD happen ....like buying a vehicle second hand, third hand ...just presuming things etc....I trust this not one tiny bit
so did they change the oil every 1,000 miles or something?
#3gcustoms on Breese Road in Lima, Ohio stocks this oil; give it a shot!
Awesome. Proud Schaeffer supporter. Was that synthetic (I assume) or conventional?
I'm seeing a lot of varnish in that engine. Are you guys blind? I had to back it up and look at the oil pick up tube. It's covered in crud.
Considering they were physically with the motor, I'd take their word over something you imagine you saw on film.
Nope.
@@SportbikerNZ Imagine? I have been working on engines for over 40 years. If you can't see the varnish, your blind son.
@@JT-qf4it I'll trust these guys over you any day.
Lol 2:30, engines like that don't go that many miles hahahaha. Then he said something like We had to see it. :)
That many miles is impressive for any gasoline engine, though.
Chevy all the way! haha
+kendra t it was a ford
Cheapskate car owner states his car has a mileage of 1 million meters no oil change since 10th owner
Use a synthetic oil at recommended weight for engine. Change oil and filter every three thousand miles. Don't drive like an idiot and a well-made engine will run a long, long time.
Regular maint wit A "quality" oil. Oh and highway miles.
Where is any kind of proof what so ever? How many transmissions and rear ends did this van have replaced? what was this van used for and how did it end up being driven 100 thousand miles a year. This van would have never been parked, and been on the road all the time. Its just to clean inside. I'm pretty sure Ford themselves would like to see this. How did they keep it from blowing out plugs in that million miles. This oil is hard as all hell to find.
if you watch the first part of the video it says they transport prison inmates. This teardown was done by Rankin technical college, not Shaeffer oil. Why would the college risk credibility to lie for Shaeffer? (I don't work for Shaeffer, but it is one of many oils we sell where I work and I use it in my own cars)
Not that impressive. The Million Mile Van (Google It) made it to 1,299,986 miles on regular old oil changed every 10-50k.
Because after all? People are such liars if there is anything to be gained....Have to somehow install some kind of tamper proof seals to prevent fraud...ot I just wont buy it...
So you feature Schaeffers 9000 oil. So lets get real here when you show me that Schaeffers oil out performs Amsoil Signature Series oil I will then purchase Schaeffers oil. I have seen testing done on here You Tube where both oils were frozen to 40 below zero and Amsoil blew away Schaeffers in flow at that temperature. Show me that Schaeffers out performs keeping the engine clean or keeps the engine wear down??? I use Amsoil to me the best oil on the market. So you show Schaeffers oil on your program now show real examples that Schaeffers will out perform Amsoil. Prove to me as I have asked on here. I am sure that you will not reply and I will not see any information on what I asked.
I got 13 months on Amsoil and lab results on my channel as a proof that Amsoil oil is the ????
How does a Ford have 1,000,000 miles
I'm a firm believer in schaeffers oil but don't fool us with a 5.4 that has a million miles. Thats probably the 10th motor in that van. Any mechanic knows the 5.4 are SHIT
4.6, 5.4 and 6.8 are very reliable. Had a 4.6 over 500k personally and seen others w/ more. There's many econoline vans w/ 500-700k miles and a few at 1m. Just don't use 5w20 ford called for - 5w30 full syn
skip to 2:38
Wow, kudo's to Ford
Shame, that It's only a comercial :(
hash marks?? that's what you been smoking
Im sure this is top notch oil, but anyone who's ever torn down or rebuilt an engine knows this is complete nonsense.
That all I’ve done for a living for 30 years and no it’s not nonsense.
Ive ripped into plenty of motors. This is what i expected for highway driving.
@@workingcountry1776how many 1,000,000 mile engines?
Are you guys blind? 🤣🤣 there is oil varnish EVERYWHERE! And in the worse spots you try your best to hide it from the camera....
Varnish isn't a big deal...
No, there’s not.
Sooo, ... 250,000 miles a year, eh? JHC, what bullshit. ... & you foreshadowed four years earlier that you were going to run Shaffer's racing oil in it from day one?
Yea, no. Off all the things that did not happen ...
Engine wasn't built to make the most power or have lightest parts, reason it could last that long. Make it do other 150hp and remove half the steel parts. It wouldn't even make it 200k without rebuild. If your fine with A to B car, go right head pick engine like that. If your counting weight to power ratio and want make the most power. There no oil that going to stop engine from breaking down from heat and wear.
Foxler of Furry Fandom and Porsche Club of America
You've just described why chasing sky-high specific power outputs is a fool's errand. Sooner have a large-displacement engine that'll last, than an over-stressed turbo, with half the displacement, making the same HP.
☝️thank you
I guarantee ya that the ecoboost sixes that they're putting into this class of truck nowadays won't make this kinda mileage for exactly the reason you point out.
Yeah, a million miles & there is still a crosshatch! Ugh ...
nice nice looking engine
I am a Ford fan. I have personally built 4 Ford engines. Casting #s on original bearings thats BS. Cross hatch in cylinder walls after a million thats BS. That vehicle is used to transport people and I am sure the maintenance was not always done when it was supposed to. I hate these fake videos.
I'll agree with that. Did he say 2 thousands of wear on the cylinder walls? I bet Schaefer has a really good product but I think this might be a little to good.
No gloves? Oil is very bad for your skin.
Ha ha,not schaffers,its good for your skin and will ensure you live a long,wear free life......
looking forward to electric vehicles w/o all of these complications
*****
we shall see :)
I know my ICE car has done pretty well over the last spirited 100,000 miles, but it's required a lot of maintenance, including a timing belt change, a water pump replacement, a rotor replacement, injector cleaning, injector o-ring replacement, cracked headers, oxygen sensor replacement, catalytic converter replacement, exhaust welding for leaks (despite being made of 300 series stainless steel), numerous oil and filter changes, and air filter maintenance.
I'm sure that vacuum cleaner sealed bearings are relatively cheap compared to what an automotive company might produce. And a 500 mile Li Ion battery pack, assuming no cell failures, will maintain a 300 mile range over a period of about a million miles. Battery costs are falling at a rate of about 10% per year. If that continues, then a 500 mile battery pack (on a heavy, large tesla, mind you) would cost 5K in less than 25 years. Couple that with reduced 'fuel' costs, and I think we might be seeing electric vehicles be the cheap, smart choice in two decades.
Tesla has stated quite firmly that their goal is a 1,000,000 mile power train, btw
Electric vehicles are going to require more expertise to diagnose and fix. Not to mention they'll be impossible to source affordable parts. (especially as used parts will be nearly non existent) there is no real upside other than less demand for hydrocarbons & the motive for all of it is not global warming. Just an FYI.
total BS!!
Joseph Bertani I'm saying
a FORD with 1 million miles…? Please give a brake..! What a BS.. You couldn't come out with another lie.. Who will believe..? Only americans will believe a Ford can hit 1 million miles..
many ford pass 1 million miles......if you compare with other brand.....you are a ford hater.....
The 3 top vehicles most likely to hit 250k miles, are the big three's diesel pickuups. So you are talking out your ass.
Zachariah Woller Bro, i am American lol
TheCodFather I'm saying that as a community not just towards you. Besides your ignorance saying the only the big three's diesel only can go 250,000.
Zachariah Woller ignorance? Re-read my comment man. I said the big three's diesel version of a pickup, are the three vehicles that are most likley to make it to 250k miles in the US. No where did i say "only". My aunt has a 99 Toyota camery that has 378k miles.