Dear Nathan, I have been shooting all my life, 54 now... I have been watching your videos & developing my slingshot skills for 24 months. You have been an inspiration. Thank you so much for your help. xxx
I've just recently got a slingshot that has a small fork width(3 cm) it's a great wee slingshot for the pocket,but I'm having trouble avoiding fork hits lol,I haven't been shooting long,so it's the smallest I've shot so far,and actually quite accurate with it just wish I didn't get as many fork hits with it though! So I'm hear to learn.
Hypothetically speaking, the total fork width should have an effect on relative band elongation symmetry, based on the degree of the slingshot not being held perpendicularly relative to the ground, according to its grip axis when the slingshot is held sideways (i.e. O.T.T and T.T.F). Indeed, many shooters do not hold the slingshot perfectly perpendicularly to the ground in full draw, which induces slight differences in band elongation between the two bands that connect the fork tips to the pouch, thus inducing non-symmetrical draw weights, and thus less accuracy. I would assume that this effect is more pronounced with wider forks (leverage effects) relative to the (sideways held) grip axis, which should in principle imply more intrinsic accuracy with narrower forks (3 cm and less) because of better band elongation symmetry even when such a slingshot is not held perfectly perpendicularly. Just something I've thought about recently after shooting nice groups with a narrow framed slingshot. Hope this makes sense. Any thoughts?
The question was about accuracy, not speed. :) We all know, if one of the rubber bands is shorter , just 2 millimeters, then the ball won't fly out in the middle of the fork gap. Inaccurate shot. Simple. The same happens, if the fork is not exactly perpendicular to the midline of the bands. Say, the upper forkend moves a little bit forward, the lower forkend moves a little bit back (I call it fork noddiing.) . The upper rubber band will be tighter, tne lower one will be looser. The wider the fork, the same angle of nodding makes more difference in rubber band force, which results in bigger inaccuracy.
I beg to differ re the band lengths being so critical. I have tested accuracy with vastly differing lengths on each fork and still retained good accuracy.
That is correct. Accuracy is all up to the shooter. Some shooters prefer a smaller fork gap and others a larger fork gap. Use whatever works best for you.
I shoot 3 different catapults ( 1, pfs 25mm tips 5 mm gap ) (2, a pinch grip style catapult 26mm forks 2,8mm gap )(3, a hammer grip style 105mm gap ) and do well with all 3
A fork width of around 40 to 5o mm i find shoots best ..The closer the forks the more accurately i seem to shoot yet with a Pickle Fork its accurate for 75% of the time and the rest..We dont mention!!
Dear Nathan, I have been shooting all my life, 54 now... I have been watching your videos & developing my slingshot skills for 24 months. You have been an inspiration. Thank you so much for your help. xxx
Glad it has inspired you! Keep at it!
I've just recently got a slingshot that has a small fork width(3 cm) it's a great wee slingshot for the pocket,but I'm having trouble avoiding fork hits lol,I haven't been shooting long,so it's the smallest I've shot so far,and actually quite accurate with it just wish I didn't get as many fork hits with it though! So I'm hear to learn.
You will most likely need to adjust your anchor point up or down.
I like the width on the XT, its gap help me to shoot 16mm glass marble safely😍
Hypothetically speaking, the total fork width should have an effect on relative band elongation symmetry, based on the degree of the slingshot not being held perpendicularly relative to the ground, according to its grip axis when the slingshot is held sideways (i.e. O.T.T and T.T.F). Indeed, many shooters do not hold the slingshot perfectly perpendicularly to the ground in full draw, which induces slight differences in band elongation between the two bands that connect the fork tips to the pouch, thus inducing non-symmetrical draw weights, and thus less accuracy. I would assume that this effect is more pronounced with wider forks (leverage effects) relative to the (sideways held) grip axis, which should in principle imply more intrinsic accuracy with narrower forks (3 cm and less) because of better band elongation symmetry even when such a slingshot is not held perfectly perpendicularly. Just something I've thought about recently after shooting nice groups with a narrow framed slingshot. Hope this makes sense. Any thoughts?
The question was about accuracy, not speed. :)
We all know, if one of the rubber bands is shorter , just 2 millimeters, then the ball won't fly out in the middle of the fork gap. Inaccurate shot. Simple. The same happens, if the fork is not exactly perpendicular to the midline of the bands. Say, the upper forkend moves a little bit forward, the lower forkend moves a little bit back (I call it fork noddiing.) . The upper rubber band will be tighter, tne lower one will be looser.
The wider the fork, the same angle of nodding makes more difference in rubber band force, which results in bigger inaccuracy.
I beg to differ re the band lengths being so critical. I have tested accuracy with vastly differing lengths on each fork and still retained good accuracy.
your conclusion is that wider fork = less accurate compare to narrower fork width?
Correct me if i am wrong, you are saying that there is little or no difference in terms of accuracy and speed between 8 and 10cm fork width ?
That is correct. Accuracy is all up to the shooter. Some shooters prefer a smaller fork gap and others a larger fork gap. Use whatever works best for you.
great videos..😄
but band thickness and elongation will have alot more impact on accuracy, am i correct?
Not really as you can still be accurate with slower speeds as well. Having the bands match the ammo correctly are the most important factor.
Thank you.
I shoot 3 different catapults ( 1, pfs 25mm tips 5 mm gap ) (2, a pinch grip style catapult 26mm forks 2,8mm gap )(3, a hammer grip style 105mm gap ) and do well with all 3
As long as you can shoot them is what counts!
I hunt rabbits pheasant and pigeon with 10mm lead love target practice to it's my dayley hobby
A fork width of around 40 to 5o mm i find shoots best ..The closer the forks the more accurately i seem to shoot yet with a Pickle Fork its accurate for 75% of the time and the rest..We dont mention!!
It is different for every shooter. Some like really wide gaps and others narrow. As long as you enjoy it and do well with it, is all that matters.
Nathan - thank you for such a direct answer.
Why is the pickle fork style when fork width doesn't matter?
Because you do not shoot through the fork gap with a pfs.
@@simpleshot I know, but why such style was created in which fork width is so important
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Sorry 28mm not 2,8
No worries.