My own unique take as a Brompton owner. Pro: Very well made. My heavily used 2000 model is still reliable. Parts are easily available when needed. Con: The compact size makes it all too obvious that the steel version is heavy. I'm an average-sized male. If I notice, smaller women definitely will. If you know you will be carrying it a lot on public transport, you might be happier paying more for the lighter titanium one. If you're just buying it because folding makes it easier to store in a small apartment, that matters less.
I tried a Brompton for a year, and I recently swapped it for a Tern BYB. I did love the versatility of the brompton, and the way everything works flawlessly, but I do half of my riding on UK country lanes which are often pot-holed and rutted, and I just found that in those situations the brompton ride was too harsh for my personal preference after a few miles. Around town or on smoother roads its no problem, so for a lot of people it will be the best option, and especially if folding, carrying and trains/buses are going to be involved. I was never challenged about the brompton once, on any train or bus. I took it into stores, a barber, workplaces, people's houses- it always fitted without any fuss. But I will say this- bromptons are so much of a target for thieves that I never dared to leave it unattended in the street, no matter what lock was on it. I heard that recently in London gangs have attacked brompton riders whilst they were riding, so desperate are they to steal these bikes. So you'll never be out of sight of it, and sometimes that is a bit of a pain. There are odd places like cinema and theatre where you cant really take it inside. And if you cant take the bike inside, then you cant go inside (for more than a few minutes anyway). My hope is that the Tern BYB will be slightly less recognisable to thieves (here in the UK anyway), and that in some situations I'll be able to lock it in the street without it getting stolen. It doesnt fold down as compact as the brompton, or as quickly, so there may be the odd situation where I cant get it onto a bus, say. But I'm hoping that 95% of the places I could take the brompton, I'll also be able to take the Tern. The other big plus with 20 inch wheels is that the tyres give a more comfortable ride when compared to the thin, very hard 16 inch tyres of the brompton.
That was very informative and very helpful. I had no idea about the thieves that are targeting riders. This is excellent information for the biking community to know. The other day I was folding the Brompton bike up with the intentions of bringing it into a museum. I could not get it to roll smoothly, so I was not able to go inside. It seemed to roll with ease at the bike shop. I have to address this because I know I am probably doing something wrong. I did look at the Tern before I made my purchase of the Brompton and I liked it. But ultimately, I chose the Brompton due to the weight. Thanks again.
@@RideandShineBicycling , like you I loved the brompton, but my riding routes involved too much rough ground, so I had to give it up. Just on the rolling thing, you will find that if you fit a rear rack it will then have four wheels to roll on instead of three, and it becomes much easier and more stable to push around. There are also wheel extenders that allow one wheel to extend outwards by maybe five inches, and that can also add to the stability when wheeling it, in some situations. I tried a cheaper rear rack and it didn't fit properly, so I ended up getting a proper brompton rack and it was a perfect fit. You'll find a number of youtube tutorial videos showing you how. Check out the Everyday Cycling channel, he has some great and informative stuff about brompton portability and pushing it around his local store etc. I dont regret the Tern, its a really well made machine and has very good quality components, but part of me still pines for the brompton!
@@bigtoe333333 I did have the option for a rear rack, but I ruled against it because one it was unnecessary and two it was going to add more weight. I do like your idea of wheel extenders.🙂
The most important thing about a Brompton is it’s tiny fold down size, meant mainly for big city commuting. If this is not one’s primary reason for ownership then there are probably a lot better and cheaper choices out there. I personally have a 20” folder and while l like it, you do feel every little bump. Just tested the 16” Brompton and it was a nice ride, but hitting the bumps was exponentially worst than the 20”.
You can *avoid* bumps and potholes better on Brompton. The small wheels make it very nimble, and you can "flick" the bike around hazards, even if you don't see them 'till the last moment.
I've had my Brompton for about 11 years and it's easily one of my top three favorites and an amazing bit of engineering. I use it for all day rides and light touring and my others are a Bike Friday NWT for long distance touring and a Mercier track bike for general urban hooliganism and training.
I agree it is an amazing bit of engineering. I am just starting to adapt to it. It is not my first choice though... I still like my regular bike, but I haven't had enough Brompton rides under my belt yet.
I love my Brompton ❤️❤️. It’s extremely excellent for a bad back ! Great for apartment living because it folds up. You don’t need a bike carrier for your car either because it will fit in the smallest car! It is well made too. I recommend it. I am in my 50’s. You don’t need a bike lock because you take it with you.
Interesting that you say that it is excellent for a back. You must have the upright handlebars. I am still getting use to mine. There will be a future video on the trials and tribulations of the Brompton. Thanks for your input. They are an engineering marvel.
That is the beautiful thing about the Brompton. I look forward to bringing in on vacation with me. I am not a big fan of hunching over while riding a bike, you miss out on the scenic view.
you wouldnt want to carry it far though. With the heavier ones i find it hard to walk in a relaxed manner and not attract attention. Titanium one would probably be more suited to that.
con: riding it you get lost in a world of brompton. Some might say you can become a stubborn, controlling person who doesnt trust anyone and its their way or the highway. Or it could just be that kind of person likes to buy them. im an owner and im guilty of that i think.
Brilliant post. I've had the P line for 6 months. It's the best £2000 I've ever spent. Amazing bike. It's surprisingly fast and easy to ride up hills. I put Schwalbe one tires on mine and it flies.
I've had my 6 speed since 2009. A lot of commuting into London, two world championships, and a Highgate Hill race. I had a B75 but sold it and bought a new orange 6 speed today. Can't beat a Brom, stop fannying around, buy it, you won't regret it.
Commuter, world champion, and a racer of the Highgate-Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience! It’s always great to hear from fellow Brompton enthusiasts. Your journey is inspiring, and I hope you enjoy every ride on your new bike!
Great choice! I don’t have one (maybe one day), but the Brompton has a list of conveniences that just makes it an all around highly functional bike that is quality built. Congratulations and I am looking forward to the Brompton rides 😎
Nice choice. I've never ridden a Brompton and like the idea of the compact fold, but I'm concerned about the ride quality, and would question, is it twitchy? Great for commuting (to/in London, where I'm from) but not sure it's for trails etc. And that price.......
Good question. I have ridden it on trails, but it would not be my first choice. I still held up. I switch back and forth from my hybrid bike and the Brompton a lot. The Brompton comes in handy when I am traveling, I don't want to lock it up, or when I don't want to leave it on my bike rack if I am doing errands. th-cam.com/video/R4lgwBtQMmQ/w-d-xo.html Thanks for the comment.
While it's certainly sturdy enough to handle gravel/rocky trails, I wouldn't want to continuously "punish" it like that. However riding on pavement is excellent. People say it's twitchy but you get used to the feel within, say, half a dozen rides, and from there it's very smooth and natural. My biggest issue with it (which videos seem to gloss over) is the challenge of smaller wheels on hills or in headwinds; it feels like maybe 20% more work to climb or maintain speed in high winds than my road bike. But this will be the case with any folding bike.
I’m here because I’m interested in getting one I’m a tall guy 6’2-3 and live in a town with hills those are my two main concerns how are they for tall people like me and how are they going up hills what’s the most gears they have and I’m a bike commuter
I know they make a telescopic seat posts for tall people. You will have to test out the various handle bars to see which one you like. According to the gazillions of articles written by Brompton users, the Brompton can handle just about anything. I can zip up the hill with no problem. I have 6 gears on my C-line but I would think you would need at least 3 gear for hills.Thank you for your interest! ...and Welcome to the fold!
Thanks! I was going to get a Brompton P / P Electric for Christmas, but worried about cycling hilly roads in London and Japan. When will the 2024 version with 12 speed gear be available?
I did buy a brompton H6R-D brand new for 1300€ because two month before i worked at a bikeshop and they where so nice to give me the price they have to pay normaly +20% mwst.
I've recently swapped from owning a Merida Reacto 400 Team Bahrain Road Bike and a 3Sixty (basically a Brompton A or C Line clone but with a smaller Ratio Sturmey Archer internal hub compared to the wide ratio of a Brompton) to owning just one Aceoffix Ace01 foldie (similar to the Brompton P Line, it's all external gear. No heavy internal hub and weighs 9.8kg). Satisfied with my Aceoffix Ace01. If you do get a Brompton, I'd recommend trying the P-Line (9.8kg) and T-Line (7.5kg). I've tried my friend's P Line and my other friend's C Line and they're a world apart.
Interesting. I didn't know about some of those other bikes. In the end, I bought a C-line-my first Brompton and as I get more experienced I will move up in the alphabet. Thanks for reaching out.
Ha! It is a fun little bike. The more I learned about them the more I wanted one. I rode it down in DC the other day and I got a lot of funny looks. I didn't anticipate that. Thanks for watching.
@@RideandShineBicycling I have my Bike Friday, still. You know our bikes are called "clown bikes" by some? 😪But I have also had at least two people say what a cool bike I had (including a fellow folding-bike rider as he passed me).
I wonder if you regret not getting one with a rack yet? I don't drive and when I go grocery shopping I tend to buy a bit more than fits in the front bag so have to use the rack which I carry a bag for.
Cons: you end up lifitng it a lot and it sure is heavy. Commuting it around is heavy work. Also, the brooks seat even with a gel topper is soo hard and hurt-y.
Sounds like a tough ride for you. And Yes, I agree you're getting a full-body workout just from lifting the bike! Maybe it's a hidden fitness feature. That was one of the first things I did was change the seat. They are definitely not made for women. Thanks for sharing.
Good question! That was not addressed in the video. I think I got 3 gears, but I am really not certain. I am still getting used to the bike. If it is anything different, I will let you know. Thanks for the question.
@@videomagicshow4881 You really need the full 6. I have 6 & would find 3 restrictive. There is a video by Brilliant Bikes where she shows the difference. Worth watching
@@grahamlongley8298 Thank you so much. I did some investigation and the Brompton I purchased has 6 gears...whew! But...on my regular bike, I really only use 3 gears even though I have 20 gears.
I feel silly responding to your comment years later. I just must have missed this one.😩 I have 6 gears on my Brompton. If this comment means anything now.
This particular Brompton was bought in Vienna, Virginia, but if you go to the Brompton site you can locate your Brompton dealer in your area. us.brompton.com/find-a-store
I agree with you, but I did have a friend who just went touring on the Brompton for 5 days. It rained and it was muddy, but if the conditions were better I think you would find her out there again.
@@RideandShineBicycling I guess it all depends where one is touring. Gravel roads with pot holes and loose rocks, is not a good place to roll for small wheels. but mostly paved roads might be bearable.
I am not familiar with a Strida. I looked them up and they seem very similar to a Brompton. What is prompting you to buy the Brompton in addition to owning a Strida? Thanks for the comment.
@@RideandShineBicycling I had a chopper as a kid, then mountain bikes (I grew up in the countryside), then I got a car and a Vespa, and didn't ride bicycles really for years. I now live in the city, and a Strida was best for my situation (and I love it!!) I would like a Brompton for more 'serious' cycling. I should point out that the Strida is still a brilliant cycle!!! Also, it'll fit easily in my small flat, easy to take on transport, it's a classic, and its handmade British, like me!!
@@RideandShineBicycling The huge advantage with owning a brompton is that there's no locking it up anywhere like a normal size bike, it goes where i go no lock required, enjoy x
I got two Brompton, rear rack is useless I bought a good front bag, I just spent 4 days in NYC, with GF, she is an avid cyclist, they are easy to lock in busy places which helps not getting stolen, the are small and when locked folded, there is not much room for tools tu cut the lock. One of my Bromptons is from 1987… do they last… yup.Central Park by bike is next level,. Speed, 15% slower than with my 700c wheels hybrid. We can put two in the trunk with the luggage and off we go. The bikes sleep in the closet of the room. I never took them in a restaurant, I don’t find it respectful to others.
NYC on Bromptons sounds like a dream! Central Park biking must've been a highlight. One day we will do a bike tour there. Your statement about the rear rack is interesting, we haven't heard that before. ...and your 1987 Brompton still going strong?! I think we can say Bromptons are like a fine wine, they age well. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for asking. We have T-shirts and leggings for sale bicycling-trailblazing-women.creator-spring.com/? but if you want bicycle parts we work with multiply bike shops that have their own website.
The maximum load, rider and luggage, is about 240 lbs, according to Brompton. At 13 stone, 4lbs, you should be fine. People do push that, but that's what Brompton says.
@@tymncycle Thank you - 240 lbs is about 17 stones... I am trying to lose a stone or so, but it is a slow job. If using a Brompton is as much fun as some people say, buying one would probably help.
I love how this American lady exclaims "Oh boy this is big" ! In the the UK,we are far more low key. We'd probably just say, "oh ok I'll take them for a ride, and then decide".
But it give you with old tech group set...with expensive price, With the price of bromton im expected to see at least a shimano 105 12speed group set and disc brake not cheap cable brake lol..
😂Funny you brought that up. I had that fear today while I was riding. There will be a future video on that topic. There has to be I have to learn how to change it!😉 Thanks for the comment.
@@RideandShineBicycling It's happen to many times...😂 The real problem to me is taking longer time to fix the puncture.. as you need to: 1) uncrew the barrel nut rear hub to remove indicator chain. Before that ensure your internal gear hub in third position. 2)use 15mm spanner to remove the chain tensioner and lose the tiny washer otherwise your brompton will not work without it. 3)Loosen and remove (on each side) the another 15mm nuts that hold the rear wheel on your bike. different type of washer don't lose it. 4)make sure your tyre are completely flat, the wheel should just slip out from between the brake pads and from the forks once the washers have been released. If you have a new tyre, or a Marathon/Marathon Plus tyre, you may need to pinch the tyre near the brake calipers to squeeze the tyre gently past the brake pads. Than only you get the rear wheel out from the frame.. not yet fixing the puncture but you already tired....🤣 Remember this is 2k folding bicycle and you will have a different thought later on...😭 Compare to my 20" tern folding bicycle is only take 5-10 seconds to remove rear wheel because using quick release skewer. Safe my time, energy and my life as well especially night time during commuting. Be careful to strangers you never know.. Brompton very expensive steel bike only (not aluminium or carbon bicycle) but outdated bicycle components... ha...ha....😂 Have a nice day Stay safe..😁👍
@@Freedom-Free Geez! this is awesome and valuable information. Sounds like I will be pulling my hair out in this future video.😫 I am not looking forward to changing my first flat! Thank you so much!! I will save this information.
A Brompton is clearly a horrible "bike" on the small, hard rolling wheels. You may do what is possible on an ordinary bike, but it takes more effort to do it, for a longer distance!! Its purpose is easy transport as folded and for that it is the best! I own a now 8,75 kilo Brompton with Mudguards, as a Rainy Dane (And not that much left of the original bike-parts!). Finn. Denmark
I would say horrible only in certain circumstances. I find it very pleasant riding around in the city of Washington DC. I have to admire you for changing up your original bike parts. Does it ride to your standards now? thanks for the comment.
Worst handlebar design.. that high can't be adjusted like telescopic one. Bike should be ridden mostly but compromised alot to be compactly folded. Waste 😅
I thought they had at least 5 different handlebar designs, which isn't offered on other folding bikes. But I can totally feel you on that challenge to find the right balance. We are all looking for that comfortable ride and don't want any kind of trade-off between adjustability and compactness. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
the guy was interesting but half the time you werent filming what he was talking about and the MTV style editing you did put me off watching the rest of the video.
Thanks for the comment. Sorry you didn't like that kind of editing. I personally like a lot of cuts it keeps me interested, it is a personal preference. I will rewatch it again with your comment in mind.
Oh, gosh! I hope you are wrong. I have had my Brompton for 3 years now. Knock on wood, the only thing that happened was the chain got stuck in the folding process. It was a struggle correcting it, but I was successful. I do try to maintain it well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It’s always good to hear different perspectives on bike durability. Your input definitely adds to the discussion!
You can buy a bag adapter for Brompton that is compatible with Brompton's front carrier block. It will convert any bag to fit your Brompton. I think they are about $20 on Amazon. Also, they have front bike racks to add as another alternative.@@myselfdotcom
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Wow! Mr. Brompton commented on my TH-cam channel! Thank you. I love the comment, I might reuse it.😃
My own unique take as a Brompton owner. Pro: Very well made. My heavily used 2000 model is still reliable. Parts are easily available when needed. Con: The compact size makes it all too obvious that the steel version is heavy. I'm an average-sized male. If I notice, smaller women definitely will. If you know you will be carrying it a lot on public transport, you might be happier paying more for the lighter titanium one. If you're just buying it because folding makes it easier to store in a small apartment, that matters less.
Great comment! Thanks for the addition. Another con I would like to add is that it is an odd looking bike.
I have 2 Brompton bikes. The great thing about it is you’ll end up cycling everywhere. I recommend the rear rack - you can add that later.
Love mine too. I have been back and forth on the rack. I don't want to add anymore weight, but I would like to pull it along folded more easily.
I simply liked the sellers attitude 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Tim of Bikes@Vienna is a very cool dude.
I tried a Brompton for a year, and I recently swapped it for a Tern BYB.
I did love the versatility of the brompton, and the way everything works flawlessly, but I do half of my riding on UK country lanes which are often pot-holed and rutted, and I just found that in those situations the brompton ride was too harsh for my personal preference after a few miles.
Around town or on smoother roads its no problem, so for a lot of people it will be the best option, and especially if folding, carrying and trains/buses are going to be involved.
I was never challenged about the brompton once, on any train or bus. I took it into stores, a barber, workplaces, people's houses- it always fitted without any fuss.
But I will say this- bromptons are so much of a target for thieves that I never dared to leave it unattended in the street, no matter what lock was on it. I heard that recently in London gangs have attacked brompton riders whilst they were riding, so desperate are they to steal these bikes.
So you'll never be out of sight of it, and sometimes that is a bit of a pain.
There are odd places like cinema and theatre where you cant really take it inside. And if you cant take the bike inside, then you cant go inside (for more than a few minutes anyway).
My hope is that the Tern BYB will be slightly less recognisable to thieves (here in the UK anyway), and that in some situations I'll be able to lock it in the street without it getting stolen.
It doesnt fold down as compact as the brompton, or as quickly, so there may be the odd situation where I cant get it onto a bus, say.
But I'm hoping that 95% of the places I could take the brompton, I'll also be able to take the Tern.
The other big plus with 20 inch wheels is that the tyres give a more comfortable ride when compared to the thin, very hard 16 inch tyres of the brompton.
That was very informative and very helpful. I had no idea about the thieves that are targeting riders. This is excellent information for the biking community to know. The other day I was folding the Brompton bike up with the intentions of bringing it into a museum. I could not get it to roll smoothly, so I was not able to go inside. It seemed to roll with ease at the bike shop. I have to address this because I know I am probably doing something wrong. I did look at the Tern before I made my purchase of the Brompton and I liked it. But ultimately, I chose the Brompton due to the weight. Thanks again.
@@RideandShineBicycling , like you I loved the brompton, but my riding routes involved too much rough ground, so I had to give it up.
Just on the rolling thing, you will find that if you fit a rear rack it will then have four wheels to roll on instead of three, and it becomes much easier and more stable to push around.
There are also wheel extenders that allow one wheel to extend outwards by maybe five inches, and that can also add to the stability when wheeling it, in some situations.
I tried a cheaper rear rack and it didn't fit properly, so I ended up getting a proper brompton rack and it was a perfect fit. You'll find a number of youtube tutorial videos showing you how.
Check out the Everyday Cycling channel, he has some great and informative stuff about brompton portability and pushing it around his local store etc.
I dont regret the Tern, its a really well made machine and has very good quality components, but part of me still pines for the brompton!
@@bigtoe333333 I did have the option for a rear rack, but I ruled against it because one it was unnecessary and two it was going to add more weight. I do like your idea of wheel extenders.🙂
@@RideandShineBicycling check out the mini Q Rack purely for a stable roll with very little added weight
@@bromptinowner763 Thank you for this advice. I will check it out.
The most important thing about a Brompton is it’s tiny fold down size, meant mainly for big city commuting. If this is not one’s primary reason for ownership then there are probably a lot better and cheaper choices out there. I personally have a 20” folder and while l like it, you do feel every little bump. Just tested the 16” Brompton and it was a nice ride, but hitting the bumps was exponentially worst than the 20”.
Thank you so much for your insight.
You can *avoid* bumps and potholes better on Brompton. The small wheels make it very nimble, and you can "flick" the bike around hazards, even if you don't see them 'till the last moment.
I feel silly responding to your comment years later. I just must have missed this one.😩
I've had my Brompton for about 11 years and it's easily one of my top three favorites and an amazing bit of engineering. I use it for all day rides and light touring and my others are a Bike Friday NWT for long distance touring and a Mercier track bike for general urban hooliganism and training.
I agree it is an amazing bit of engineering. I am just starting to adapt to it. It is not my first choice though... I still like my regular bike, but I haven't had enough Brompton rides under my belt yet.
I love my Brompton ❤️❤️. It’s extremely excellent for a bad back ! Great for apartment living because it folds up.
You don’t need a bike carrier for your car either because it will fit in the smallest car! It is well made too. I recommend it.
I am in my 50’s. You don’t need a bike lock because you take it with you.
Interesting that you say that it is excellent for a back. You must have the upright handlebars. I am still getting use to mine. There will be a future video on the trials and tribulations of the Brompton. Thanks for your input. They are an engineering marvel.
@@RideandShineBicycling Yes, I do have the upright handlebars and they are great.
That is the beautiful thing about the Brompton. I look forward to bringing in on vacation with me. I am not a big fan of hunching over while riding a bike, you miss out on the scenic view.
you wouldnt want to carry it far though. With the heavier ones i find it hard to walk in a relaxed manner and not attract attention. Titanium one would probably be more suited to that.
Bromptons can be taken on 100+ mile trips without a problem. Pros = countless, too many to name. Cons = your pocketbook is much lighter 😄
That is so true... I should have added that to the list. Thanks.
If you sell it on you can still get a good return.
con: riding it you get lost in a world of brompton. Some might say you can become a stubborn, controlling person who doesnt trust anyone and its their way or the highway. Or it could just be that kind of person likes to buy them. im an owner and im guilty of that i think.
Brilliant post. I've had the P line for 6 months. It's the best £2000 I've ever spent. Amazing bike. It's surprisingly fast and easy to ride up hills. I put Schwalbe one tires on mine and it flies.
I've had my 6 speed since 2009. A lot of commuting into London, two world championships, and a Highgate Hill race. I had a B75 but sold it and bought a new orange 6 speed today. Can't beat a Brom, stop fannying around, buy it, you won't regret it.
Commuter, world champion, and a racer of the Highgate-Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience! It’s always great to hear from fellow Brompton enthusiasts. Your journey is inspiring, and I hope you enjoy every ride on your new bike!
Great choice! I don’t have one (maybe one day), but the Brompton has a list of conveniences that just makes it an all around highly functional bike that is quality built. Congratulations and I am looking forward to the Brompton rides 😎
Thanks. I am still adapting to the bike, so far so much fun!
Nice choice. I've never ridden a Brompton and like the idea of the compact fold, but I'm concerned about the ride quality, and would question, is it twitchy? Great for commuting (to/in London, where I'm from) but not sure it's for trails etc. And that price.......
Good question. I have ridden it on trails, but it would not be my first choice. I still held up. I switch back and forth from my hybrid bike and the Brompton a lot. The Brompton comes in handy when I am traveling, I don't want to lock it up, or when I don't want to leave it on my bike rack if I am doing errands. th-cam.com/video/R4lgwBtQMmQ/w-d-xo.html Thanks for the comment.
While it's certainly sturdy enough to handle gravel/rocky trails, I wouldn't want to continuously "punish" it like that. However riding on pavement is excellent. People say it's twitchy but you get used to the feel within, say, half a dozen rides, and from there it's very smooth and natural. My biggest issue with it (which videos seem to gloss over) is the challenge of smaller wheels on hills or in headwinds; it feels like maybe 20% more work to climb or maintain speed in high winds than my road bike. But this will be the case with any folding bike.
There's nothing like balanced advice, and this really was nothing like balanced advice.
Thanks for the compliment. We always try to be non-biased.
Asking the best questions ! Great video thank you
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If you are in Northern Virginia, go to Vienna and you will see this shop firsthand. I'm interested in the electric version of the Brompton.
Great shop! Bikes@Vienna I am sure they would appreciate this comment.
Loved you guys! This is a very honor video review!
Thank you! Love it that you enjoy the channel.
I’m here because I’m interested in getting one I’m a tall guy 6’2-3 and live in a town with hills those are my two main concerns how are they for tall people like me and how are they going up hills what’s the most gears they have and I’m a bike commuter
I know they make a telescopic seat posts for tall people. You will have to test out the various handle bars to see which one you like. According to the gazillions of articles written by Brompton users, the Brompton can handle just about anything. I can zip up the hill with no problem. I have 6 gears on my C-line but I would think you would need at least 3 gear for hills.Thank you for your interest! ...and Welcome to the fold!
Thanks! I was going to get a Brompton P / P Electric for Christmas, but worried about cycling hilly roads in London and Japan. When will the 2024 version with 12 speed gear be available?
We are not certain, but I can ask our Brompton bike shop. @Viennabikes.
@@RideandShineBicycling thank you!
I did buy a brompton H6R-D brand new for 1300€ because two month before i worked at a bikeshop and they where so nice to give me the price they have to pay normaly +20% mwst.
Birdy maybe falls in your bucket list if you have the concerns on 1) ride quality, and 2) full suspension.
Thank you for your comment.
I've recently swapped from owning a Merida Reacto 400 Team Bahrain Road Bike and a 3Sixty (basically a Brompton A or C Line clone but with a smaller Ratio Sturmey Archer internal hub compared to the wide ratio of a Brompton) to owning just one Aceoffix Ace01 foldie (similar to the Brompton P Line, it's all external gear. No heavy internal hub and weighs 9.8kg).
Satisfied with my Aceoffix Ace01. If you do get a Brompton, I'd recommend trying the P-Line (9.8kg) and T-Line (7.5kg). I've tried my friend's P Line and my other friend's C Line and they're a world apart.
Interesting. I didn't know about some of those other bikes. In the end, I bought a C-line-my first Brompton and as I get more experienced I will move up in the alphabet. Thanks for reaching out.
I should have known your previous Brompton vids would lead to this! Lol. Congratulations!
Ha! It is a fun little bike. The more I learned about them the more I wanted one. I rode it down in DC the other day and I got a lot of funny looks. I didn't anticipate that. Thanks for watching.
@@RideandShineBicycling I have my Bike Friday, still. You know our bikes are called "clown bikes" by some? 😪But I have also had at least two people say what a cool bike I had (including a fellow folding-bike rider as he passed me).
@Scholastica Cooney Clown bike!?...I haven't heard that reference before. Maybe I should learn to juggle and make balloon animals. 😅
I wonder if you regret not getting one with a rack yet? I don't drive and when I go grocery shopping I tend to buy a bit more than fits in the front bag so have to use the rack which I carry a bag for.
Yes and no. I still have difficulty moving it around, especially on uneven surfaces. But I am okay with not adding any extra weight to it.😁
I have two Brompton bikes for travelling and commuting
Wow! Are they different models?
Welp, I just splurged on an A Line, even though I already work from home. Just thought I should get one sooner than later, ya know?
I know what you mean. Welcome to the fold!
Congratulations, you got my favorite color!!!
Must be something in the air my new bike come in today
Red means... action, confidence, and courage. We both have these qualities just by having our TH-cam channels!
Hi,I got the M6R yesterday watching this TH-cam 😁
That's fantastic, so glad this helped you. Thanks for watching this channel. Have fun with your new Brompton!
Yes!! Brompton ❤
Hey Alberto! Great you found me. Nice meeting you in Rome. Ciao
Cons: you end up lifitng it a lot and it sure is heavy. Commuting it around is heavy work. Also, the brooks seat even with a gel topper is soo hard and hurt-y.
Sounds like a tough ride for you. And Yes, I agree you're getting a full-body workout just from lifting the bike! Maybe it's a hidden fitness feature. That was one of the first things I did was change the seat. They are definitely not made for women. Thanks for sharing.
How many gears? 2, 3 or 6.
Good question! That was not addressed in the video. I think I got 3 gears, but I am really not certain. I am still getting used to the bike. If it is anything different, I will let you know. Thanks for the question.
@@videomagicshow4881 You really need the full 6. I have 6 & would find 3 restrictive. There is a video by Brilliant Bikes where she shows the difference. Worth watching
@@grahamlongley8298 Thank you so much. I did some investigation and the Brompton I purchased has 6 gears...whew! But...on my regular bike, I really only use 3 gears even though I have 20 gears.
I feel silly responding to your comment years later. I just must have missed this one.😩 I have 6 gears on my Brompton. If this comment means anything now.
How do I know where the product bought from?
This particular Brompton was bought in Vienna, Virginia, but if you go to the Brompton site you can locate your Brompton dealer in your area. us.brompton.com/find-a-store
For commuting, yes. For long haul touring, I'd look at something else.
I agree with you, but I did have a friend who just went touring on the Brompton for 5 days. It rained and it was muddy, but if the conditions were better I think you would find her out there again.
@@RideandShineBicycling I guess it all depends where one is touring. Gravel roads with pot holes and loose rocks, is not a good place to roll for small wheels. but mostly paved roads might be bearable.
@@arfifteen9344 Or how much pain one wants to go through 😅
I have a Strida which I love, great for my commute as I live in a mostly flat city, but I'm going to get a Brompton too. Beautiful things.
I am not familiar with a Strida. I looked them up and they seem very similar to a Brompton. What is prompting you to buy the Brompton in addition to owning a Strida? Thanks for the comment.
@@RideandShineBicycling I had a chopper as a kid, then mountain bikes (I grew up in the countryside), then I got a car and a Vespa, and didn't ride bicycles really for years. I now live in the city, and a Strida was best for my situation (and I love it!!) I would like a Brompton for more 'serious' cycling.
I should point out that the Strida is still a brilliant cycle!!!
Also, it'll fit easily in my small flat, easy to take on transport, it's a classic, and its handmade British, like me!!
@@thejacal2704 Ahh..memories of a chopper bike... good times.
@@RideandShineBicycling My chopper is still in the shed at my parents' house. One day I shall restore her to her former glory!
@@thejacal2704 Those Choppers are a real collector’s item and can fetch up to £750 in top condition.
YES well done for buying a brompton i love mine x
I am still adapting and working out the kinks. 😁
@@RideandShineBicycling The huge advantage with owning a brompton is that there's no locking it up anywhere like a normal size bike, it goes where i go no lock required, enjoy x
I got two Brompton, rear rack is useless I bought a good front bag, I just spent 4 days in NYC, with GF, she is an avid cyclist, they are easy to lock in busy places which helps not getting stolen, the are small and when locked folded, there is not much room for tools tu cut the lock. One of my Bromptons is from 1987… do they last… yup.Central Park by bike is next level,. Speed, 15% slower than with my 700c wheels hybrid. We can put two in the trunk with the luggage and off we go. The bikes sleep in the closet of the room. I never took them in a restaurant, I don’t find it respectful to others.
NYC on Bromptons sounds like a dream! Central Park biking must've been a highlight. One day we will do a bike tour there. Your statement about the rear rack is interesting, we haven't heard that before. ...and your 1987 Brompton still going strong?! I think we can say Bromptons are like a fine wine, they age well. Thanks for sharing.
Ride & Shine Bicycling do you have a website to buy online?
Thanks for asking. We have T-shirts and leggings for sale bicycling-trailblazing-women.creator-spring.com/? but if you want bicycle parts we work with multiply bike shops that have their own website.
Nice review.
Glad you enjoyed it
These Bromptons look very impressive but, can you tell me please, how heavy a rider they can carry for long distances? I am about 13st 4lbs.
The maximum load, rider and luggage, is about 240 lbs, according to Brompton. At 13 stone, 4lbs, you should be fine. People do push that, but that's what Brompton says.
Brompton says 240 lbs, rider, and baggage.
@@tymncycle Thank you - 240 lbs is about 17 stones... I am trying to lose a stone or so, but it is a slow job. If using a Brompton is as much fun as some people say, buying one would probably help.
I love how this American lady exclaims "Oh boy this is big" ! In the the UK,we are far more low key. We'd probably just say, "oh ok I'll take them for a ride, and then decide".
WE ARE EXCITED BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR BIKES!!!!
Thx for sharing my friend 🙏 💐
Thank you. Have a good weekend.
How big are the wheels...
16 inches. A very tiny wheel!
I just bought a Brompton also 2022 Black edition. You got yours for a good price. I paid a few hundreds more for my.
That is interesting. It is good to know it was a good price. I bought mine from Bikes@Vienna in Vienna, Virginia. So far I am having a blast.
But it give you with old tech group set...with expensive price, With the price of bromton im expected to see at least a shimano 105 12speed group set and disc brake not cheap cable brake lol..
Yep, good bikes are not cheap. Thanks for the comment.
Is it foldable?
Yes, that is what the Brompton bike is known for. Pretty amazing. Here is a video of the folding..th-cam.com/video/tAP_qEEXIgw/w-d-xo.html
It is a myth that the small wheels accelerate more quickly. They may be smaller but have to spin faster.
Tim the Bike shop owner did say that..it is an interesting comment... possible a follow-up video? Thanks for the comment.
Brompton's are the best in class. We have 3. Just buy one! ;-)
😅 One is good!
Yes
It was a fun day!
The brompton is nice and easy to fold! But the price is really quite high! Maybe it is good for someone that cycles many times a week!
or likes to travel.😉
@@RideandShineBicycling haha running is my main sport so I can make do with a hito lol
@@jusjusrunsworld I used to do a lot of running, but now I am obsessed with biking.😍🚲
Congrats!!!!
Thanks! I am still working out the kinks. Another video will follow soon.
Wait for rear tyre get flat and you know it...
Is it worth it to pay 2k for this bike...? No regret..
😂Funny you brought that up. I had that fear today while I was riding. There will be a future video on that topic. There has to be I have to learn how to change it!😉 Thanks for the comment.
@@RideandShineBicycling
It's happen to many times...😂
The real problem to me is taking longer time to fix the puncture.. as you need to:
1) uncrew the barrel nut rear hub to remove indicator chain.
Before that ensure your internal gear hub in third position.
2)use 15mm spanner to remove the chain tensioner and lose the tiny washer otherwise your brompton will not work without it.
3)Loosen and remove (on each side) the another 15mm nuts that hold the rear wheel on your bike.
different type of washer don't lose it.
4)make sure your tyre are completely flat, the wheel should just slip out from between the brake pads and from the forks once the washers have been released. If you have a new tyre, or a Marathon/Marathon Plus tyre, you may need to pinch the tyre near the brake calipers to squeeze the tyre gently past the brake pads.
Than only you get the rear wheel out from the frame.. not yet fixing the puncture but you already tired....🤣
Remember this is 2k folding bicycle and you will have a different thought later on...😭
Compare to my 20" tern folding bicycle is only take 5-10 seconds to remove rear wheel because using quick release skewer. Safe my time, energy and my life as well especially night time during commuting. Be careful to strangers you never know..
Brompton very expensive steel bike only (not aluminium or carbon bicycle) but outdated bicycle components... ha...ha....😂
Have a nice day
Stay safe..😁👍
@@Freedom-Free Geez! this is awesome and valuable information. Sounds like I will be pulling my hair out in this future video.😫
I am not looking forward to changing my first flat! Thank you so much!! I will save this information.
I think one of the Brilliantbikes videos demonstrates this... when I find it I will post a link to it.
The Willy Wonka clip was a nice touch
A cinematic classic..Thank you.
Can I order one from you
The Brompton premier classified bike shop that we are associated with takes orders for the Brompton. www.bikesatvienna.com
Great bike, should have got the rack. In case you need anything extra.
It was back and forth on that..I ruled it out because of it would have added more weight for lifting.
A Brompton is clearly a horrible "bike" on the small, hard rolling wheels. You may do what is possible on an ordinary bike, but it takes more effort to do it, for a longer distance!! Its purpose is easy transport as folded and for that it is the best!
I own a now 8,75 kilo Brompton with Mudguards, as a Rainy Dane (And not that much left of the original bike-parts!). Finn. Denmark
I would say horrible only in certain circumstances. I find it very pleasant riding around in the city of Washington DC. I have to admire you for changing up your original bike parts. Does it ride to your standards now? thanks for the comment.
Was considering getting one until 5:35
I can see why! They are very pricey, but fun to have.
If rich, yes
Ha!ha! Very good response
I hate people talking to me wearing sunglasses.
I don't always wear sunglasses, but when I do, you better shield yourself from the awesomeness. 😎😎😎
Yes yes yes yes i love my wifes bike love love like my wife
Same here! but it is with the husband and his bike.😜🚲
👍
Nothing special just size.... but way overprice....Zizzo is the winner !
Thanks for the comment.
I agree, I have two of them which I ride frequently. I didn’t have to pay more than $1000 for each one
@@evanstonbalce9588 That is interesting. I should look into Zizzo and see if I can do a review. Thanks for the comment.
2k for a bike is a lot
Yes it is. We tried the Birch folding bike for $500. It was a pretty good alternative to the Brompton
Worst handlebar design.. that high can't be adjusted like telescopic one. Bike should be ridden mostly but compromised alot to be compactly folded. Waste 😅
I thought they had at least 5 different handlebar designs, which isn't offered on other folding bikes. But I can totally feel you on that challenge to find the right balance. We are all looking for that comfortable ride and don't want any kind of trade-off between adjustability and compactness. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
If you got the dough, don’t look at anything else.
the guy was interesting but half the time you werent filming what he was talking about and the MTV style editing you did put me off watching the rest of the video.
Thanks for the comment. Sorry you didn't like that kind of editing. I personally like a lot of cuts it keeps me interested, it is a personal preference. I will rewatch it again with your comment in mind.
You want speed👉go electric Brompton 😁
Hobo cyclist puts thousands of KMs on Super inexpensive folders
Great to know. Thanks for watching
Too expensive. Buy a Beixo.
Never heard of Beixo. I don't think they sell them in our area. We'll have to check it out. Thanks for watching!
Bromtons break down a lot. Just watch TH-cam videos. They are NOT durable.
Oh, gosh! I hope you are wrong. I have had my Brompton for 3 years now. Knock on wood, the only thing that happened was the chain got stuck in the folding process. It was a struggle correcting it, but I was successful. I do try to maintain it well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It’s always good to hear different perspectives on bike durability. Your input definitely adds to the discussion!
No don’t.
Gimme your reasons
No, don’t.
Ha! Better come up with a reason better than that.
What a mistake!! But I’m sure, 7 months later you know that.
Let us know why you made that comment. We are curious. Thanks
I have finally bought myself a Brompton A from a local store in DC LOL
Congratulations on joining the club! And welcome to The Fold 🙌
@@RideandShineBicycling ha thanks. now I need to find a decent price commuter bag! Brompton bag is meh expensive stupid money!
You can buy a bag adapter for Brompton that is compatible with Brompton's front carrier block. It will convert any bag to fit your Brompton. I think they are about $20 on Amazon. Also, they have front bike racks to add as another alternative.@@myselfdotcom
Yup. Got the carrier block from REI on sale. Interesting on the conversion block. @@RideandShineBicycling