Great job as usual, Chris. I am assembling my Green/Gold Grand Tundra now. Just a quick note regarding the landing gear. I found it easier to attach the struts to the fuse first, then attach the cross brace to the strut mounts. I opted to attach the cross brace in FRONT of the strut mounts instead of in between them and did not use the rubber tubing spacers. This makes it easier to get to the screws that mount the struts to the fuse when I want to switch over to floats. I used a cotter pin to secure it in place as the supplied screws are a tad to short to use this way. Will try to get longer screws if I can find them. Also, I had to grind the flattened ends of the cross brace a bit to get it to square up. This slight modification does not change the landing gear mechanics. I really wish Hobby King and other manufacturers would design planes so that both landing gear and floats could be swapped quickly and easily and preferably without tools. This would avoid the possibility of losing any screws in the process which, for me, usually means a plane is unflyable if I lose just one screw. Man, this is one incredible plane and wow it is HUGE!!! Hope to maiden it this weekend and then set it up with FPV. Thanks for another great video and website tutorial. You are the very best on TH-cam, without a doubt!
Just got mine, and running on 6 cell. Interesting the manual say 75 to 80mm for cfg. But found the battery is much further back. Would you suggest 65 to 70mm as a better option?
I was really happy with where my cg was on the airplane, flew great! I’d recommend starting a little forward and then moving it back to suit your desired feel and flying style.
Great video T and beautiful bird. Iam loving mine and it is so much fun flying it and just having good time. Oh yeah... Thanks for posting this video and happy landings my friend. Greetings from Slovenia, Pilot Robert
@@markuswormann9744 Sorry, just now saw this comment. I don't recall the weight, but it certainly wasn't an issue for the airframe as it was very lightly loaded and could slow way down.
Thanks very much for your in-depth review of the Grand Tundra I have mine ordered but still waiting for them to ship . It was really great to see the CG setup stuff like that's really for us guys getting our new planes anyway thanks again please keep up all the good work Bobby . Oh btw I just live about a hour north of Chuck Norris's hometown of Ryan Oklahoma I believe that's where he was born thanks again
Hello guys are very addicted to airplanes look how they were full of mud. I loved that model a beauty as it flies. I send a big greeting for everyone from Buenos Aires 😃👍👍.
I recently crashed my Tundra V2 and was offered a chance to buy the Grand Tundra model ....do you have any experience with the smaller V2 ..if so can you tell me how the larger model compares............. is the Grand a nice flyer...I imagine it can handle the wind and it seems to have plenty of power on a 6S ....thanks
I really o my have experience with the grand tundra. I’d imagine the smaller would fly pretty similarly though as it’s a pretty standard aerodynamic design and configuration.
I have flown at your undisclosed location. It is an awesome place to fly! Huge area and rarely anyone around. The Grand Tundra is awesome as is your video of it.
Great video mate! I just bought one of these and can't wait for it to arrive. For me it's the perfect plane....Big wheels, soft landing gear means you can fly it anywhere, big high wing so it flies well and looks awesome with plenty of grunt! I'm hanging out for this aircraft!
@@Thercgeek cheers mate I will! It arrived today. Started the build. I'm confused with something....there's a lead coming off the battery cable with a black and white wire. Do you know what that's for? And do you connect the navigation light leads with a y lead? Are the nav lights programmable? Cheers.
Great video but for what is that piece of foam that looks it fit the bottom of the aircraft like dimond shape and in top of the wing in the center those piece of plastic that stick out like horns.?
Thanks! That diamond shaped foam piece I'm pretty sure is for the optional floats. It doesn't get used for the standard configuration. Those silver plastic pieces that get glued into the wings are vortex generators. They're there to intentionally turbulate the flow over the top of the wing. This helps put energy into the airflow to avoid laminar separation that can occur keeping the air from separating at slow speeds which helps the airplane's slow flight characteristics. Thanks for watching!
i was thinking about getting some real dubro inflatable wheels for this because I did it with the cessna 150 eflite with great results do you think it would affect cg too much?
@@Thercgeek unfortunately Kavan doesn't have anything larger than 5 inch diameter and I was hoping to match the size of the tires on the avios which i believe is 6 inch also dubros are apparently cheaper.
Ah, ok. Well, you will probably have to look at moving the battery back to get the cg where you want it with the dubros. Kind of crazy that the dubros are cheaper. They’re a very robust tire.
Great video. Saw it, bought it and received it today. But I cannot figure out how to setup the lights. Connect where and turn on/off? do you have a quick ansvar. thanks in advance
Hey! What Receiver did you fit? Does it have to be 7ch to have the lights working properly, I have a Spektrum DX8 so i need a DSMX Rx, can you help with options? Thanks!
I don't think you need a 7ch Rx to get the lights working, but I don't remember. I don't have the airplane anymore, so I can't check either. It's a 6 channel airplane and the lights only need a power input, nothing else. That can be drawn from any of the channels through a y-harness if needed.
Yeah, the only thing is if i want to put them on a switch and have off, on or blinking would that not affect or be possible being y’d into an existing channel?
If you want to operate them from a switch, then yes you'll need a separate channel. You'll also need an electronic switch or something like that too as they're setup completely passively stock being lit whenever the radio is on.
I bought one of these and was so excited. The design is good but the quality of assembly is so bad I have decided to not buy from HobbyKing again. The last straw was when I started testing it and one of the servos was bad. There was no way to replace the servo without damaging the plane. I packed it up and returned it and only received store credit.
Awesome video and review! Looks to be a great performer. I think I will end up fitting the Du-Bro tailwheel to mine since it was so great on the CZ Cub.
I LOVE AVIOS'S MODELS THE ZAZZY IS AMAZING TOO. NOTE: THE TAIL WHEEL ASSEMBLY ON THE ZAZZY IS WEAK BUT I JUST MODIFIED IT WITH A DIFFERENT SCREW TO HOLD THE WHEEL STRAIGHT AND IT'S FINE...!!!
I never measured the amps, but we did a ton of flying with the airplane on 6s without really any issues. One flight I did experience some thermal issues with the motor starting to cut out a bit at full throttle. That was only once and when flying the airplane mostly full throttle.
It's the great planes AccuThrow Deflection Meter. I got it from Tower Hobbies many years ago. Looks like it shows out of stock, but due in mid October: www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXK260&P=ML
thx to your nice video I bought one xd, but I have a question people say the esc end comes with a xt-90? is that correct if so I have 6s 4000 with xt60 ends on them. what ends do I need on the adapter? I see some on horizon hobby for 6 bucks but they are female xt60 to male xt90 is that the correct one's thx glenn
Well great view mate... thinking this cut be an upgrade from the E-flite Timber 1,5m, the grand looking so awesome love the gear... cheers from Denmark
The RC Geek thx the reply mate.. Gotta try it ;-). I was wondering if the landinggear cut fit a carbon z cup and hold to the little bit bigger plane any idea ? Cheers
My friend how can get get out the reverse, because when i get out the reverse in my spectrum receiver, the engine is going to reverse , thanks for you help
Well, typically all that would be required is to swap two of the 3 wires between the ESC and the motor. That'll change the direction of the motor. However, this is a reversable ESC so make sure it's not in reverse mode. I never explored that with this model, so unfortunately can't really help there on the ESC programming.
I don't remember off hand and I don't have the airplane anymore to look. They only require power, so if you connect them all together and plug them into the Rx, they should light up.
Honestly, either works great. 4 cell is great for cruising around and doing scale type aerobatics. 6 cell is great for much more extreme aerobatics. So, it really depends on what you want to get out of the airplane.
That landing gear looks way to flimsy , a landing gear in a funcup style a simpel pice of bended pianowire will do the work way better , i do fly both planes a i switched the landing gear on the tundra , tundra is a nice bush style plane that fly nice a it will fit in the back of your car 👍😎 remember fly it like you stole it ....
Great job as usual, Chris. I am assembling my Green/Gold Grand Tundra now. Just a quick note regarding the landing gear. I found it easier to attach the struts to the fuse first, then attach the cross brace to the strut mounts. I opted to attach the cross brace in FRONT of the strut mounts instead of in between them and did not use the rubber tubing spacers. This makes it easier to get to the screws that mount the struts to the fuse when I want to switch over to floats. I used a cotter pin to secure it in place as the supplied screws are a tad to short to use this way. Will try to get longer screws if I can find them. Also, I had to grind the flattened ends of the cross brace a bit to get it to square up. This slight modification does not change the landing gear mechanics. I really wish Hobby King and other manufacturers would design planes so that both landing gear and floats could be swapped quickly and easily and preferably without tools. This would avoid the possibility of losing any screws in the process which, for me, usually means a plane is unflyable if I lose just one screw. Man, this is one incredible plane and wow it is HUGE!!! Hope to maiden it this weekend and then set it up with FPV. Thanks for another great video and website tutorial. You are the very best on TH-cam, without a doubt!
Thanks man! Sounds like a simple mod. Good luck on the maiden!
Just got mine, and running on 6 cell. Interesting the manual say 75 to 80mm for cfg. But found the battery is much further back. Would you suggest 65 to 70mm as a better option?
I was really happy with where my cg was on the airplane, flew great! I’d recommend starting a little forward and then moving it back to suit your desired feel and flying style.
Great video T and beautiful bird. Iam loving mine and it is so much fun flying it and just having good time. Oh yeah... Thanks for posting this video and happy landings my friend. Greetings from Slovenia, Pilot Robert
Thanks for watching! This bird is definitely a fun one for sure. :)
Amen to that. Oh yeah...
what about the flying weight?
@@markuswormann9744 Sorry, just now saw this comment. I don't recall the weight, but it certainly wasn't an issue for the airframe as it was very lightly loaded and could slow way down.
Thanks very much for your in-depth review of the Grand Tundra I have mine ordered but still waiting for them to ship . It was really great to see the CG setup stuff like that's really for us guys getting our new planes anyway thanks again please keep up all the good work Bobby . Oh btw I just live about a hour north of Chuck Norris's hometown of Ryan Oklahoma I believe that's where he was born thanks again
ha, that's awesome! Thanks for watching! :)
The 1” for control surfaces that you set up and showed on this video at 5:58 ; were they mid rates? Or high rates?
It’s the rates I settled on for flying. I think they were the high rates.
@@Thercgeekthank you sir. I will do a maiden tomorrow. I will let you know how it went.
Hello guys are very addicted to airplanes look how they were full of mud. I loved that model a beauty as it flies. I send a big greeting for everyone from Buenos Aires 😃👍👍.
Thanks for watching! :)
I recently crashed my Tundra V2 and was offered a chance to buy the Grand Tundra model ....do you have any experience with the smaller V2 ..if so can you tell me how the larger model compares............. is the Grand a nice flyer...I imagine it can handle the wind and it seems to have plenty of power on a 6S ....thanks
I really o my have experience with the grand tundra. I’d imagine the smaller would fly pretty similarly though as it’s a pretty standard aerodynamic design and configuration.
I have flown at your undisclosed location. It is an awesome place to fly! Huge area and rarely anyone around. The Grand Tundra is awesome as is your video of it.
Thanks! Yeah, it's a cool place to fly for sure and was perfect for flying the GT. :)
What general area of San Diego county are you guys flying in?
Great video mate! I just bought one of these and can't wait for it to arrive. For me it's the perfect plane....Big wheels, soft landing gear means you can fly it anywhere, big high wing so it flies well and looks awesome with plenty of grunt! I'm hanging out for this aircraft!
Thank you! Have fun with the GT! :)
@@Thercgeek cheers mate I will! It arrived today. Started the build. I'm confused with something....there's a lead coming off the battery cable with a black and white wire. Do you know what that's for? And do you connect the navigation light leads with a y lead? Are the nav lights programmable? Cheers.
What camera were you using and how did you attach it at 7:41
It’s a runcam2. I just simply taped it down onto the surface.
@@Thercgeek Thanks for the quick reply. I might have to pick one up for my models
Nice review, similar tail wheel set up on the Zazzy which I changed after my 3rd Zazzy flight. Thanks for great video. 👌
Thanks so much for watching! 😊
Great video but for what is that piece of foam that looks it fit the bottom of the aircraft like dimond shape and in top of the wing in the center those piece of plastic that stick out like horns.?
Thanks! That diamond shaped foam piece I'm pretty sure is for the optional floats. It doesn't get used for the standard configuration. Those silver plastic pieces that get glued into the wings are vortex generators. They're there to intentionally turbulate the flow over the top of the wing. This helps put energy into the airflow to avoid laminar separation that can occur keeping the air from separating at slow speeds which helps the airplane's slow flight characteristics. Thanks for watching!
To fly 5S change the ESC battery type from lipo to ni-cad, the only thing you will lose is low voltage alarm/cut-off.
What is the flying actual weight with a 4 s, people say the specs on the product sheet are not accurate on the weight, great review and build video
Thanks! I never weighed the airplane. IT flew great with both 4s and 6s 5800 mah packs!
Very well filmed and edited (i say it as a filmmaker) and very well explained the aircraft which i would like to buy for towing plane ! Thank you !
Thank you and thanks for watching!
i was thinking about getting some real dubro inflatable wheels for this because I did it with the cessna 150 eflite with great results do you think it would affect cg too much?
You might want to look at the kavan balloon tires for this as they’re considerably lighter than the dubro balloon tires.
@@Thercgeek unfortunately Kavan doesn't have anything larger than 5 inch diameter and I was hoping to match the size of the tires on the avios which i believe is 6 inch also dubros are apparently cheaper.
Ah, ok. Well, you will probably have to look at moving the battery back to get the cg where you want it with the dubros. Kind of crazy that the dubros are cheaper. They’re a very robust tire.
Great video. Saw it, bought it and received it today. But I cannot figure out how to setup the lights. Connect where and turn on/off? do you have a quick ansvar. thanks in advance
To get the lights to work, they have to be plugged in completely. There's a connection at the receiver and then a connection at the battery.
By the way, you forgot to mention the ESC has a reversing function - yes you can Back UP!
You're right, I did. I didn't really even play with that at all either. :|
Haha, great place to fly, but a little hike is required to get there. Biggest plane that I flew there was my FMS 1400mm 182.
Intelligent presentation. Thank you, Scott in Texas
Thanks for watching! 😊
Looks like it might be time to retire the old hobbyzone supercub.
Hey! What Receiver did you fit? Does it have to be 7ch to have the lights working properly, I have a Spektrum DX8 so i need a DSMX Rx, can you help with options? Thanks!
I don't think you need a 7ch Rx to get the lights working, but I don't remember. I don't have the airplane anymore, so I can't check either. It's a 6 channel airplane and the lights only need a power input, nothing else. That can be drawn from any of the channels through a y-harness if needed.
Yeah, the only thing is if i want to put them on a switch and have off, on or blinking would that not affect or be possible being y’d into an existing channel?
If you want to operate them from a switch, then yes you'll need a separate channel. You'll also need an electronic switch or something like that too as they're setup completely passively stock being lit whenever the radio is on.
The landing on 10:30 would have been a perfect example for a ultra short landing using thrust reverse when set up.
True! I wasn’t aware of the reversing esc on this at the time, so never set it up.
I bought one of these and was so excited. The design is good but the quality of assembly is so bad I have decided to not buy from HobbyKing again. The last straw was when I started testing it and one of the servos was bad. There was no way to replace the servo without damaging the plane. I packed it up and returned it and only received store credit.
I understand. HK makes some good airplanes, but yeah quality can be hit and miss. Most of the time it's "good enough."
Awesome video and review! Looks to be a great performer. I think I will end up fitting the Du-Bro tailwheel to mine since it was so great on the CZ Cub.
Thank you! A Du-Bro tail wheel sounds like a good option. The stock one is just way too soft.
Chuck Norris is great!! great looking plane, little pricey, but looks like it’s worth it. Thanks for the video
It’s a good flyer for sure. Btw, did you know Chuck Norris’ tears can cure cancer? Too bad he’s never cried. 🤪 😉
I LOVE AVIOS'S MODELS THE ZAZZY IS AMAZING TOO. NOTE: THE TAIL WHEEL ASSEMBLY ON THE ZAZZY IS WEAK BUT I JUST MODIFIED IT WITH A DIFFERENT SCREW TO HOLD THE WHEEL STRAIGHT AND IT'S FINE...!!!
That name though, Zazzy, haha! ;) The GT flies so good, I was pleasantly surprised as I'd not flown any previously.
Vn. I keep hearing the 60 amp esc is too small when using a 6s batt? What numbers where you getting watts.amps when using the 6s thx
I never measured the amps, but we did a ton of flying with the airplane on 6s without really any issues. One flight I did experience some thermal issues with the motor starting to cut out a bit at full throttle. That was only once and when flying the airplane mostly full throttle.
Why the hell did I clicked on this video?? Now I have to buy this plane 😫😍😍😁
Haha, you’re welcome? 🤣
Where did you get the pitch guage?
It's the great planes AccuThrow Deflection Meter. I got it from Tower Hobbies many years ago. Looks like it shows out of stock, but due in mid October: www.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXK260&P=ML
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thx to your nice video I bought one xd, but I have a question people say the esc end comes with a xt-90? is that correct if so I have 6s 4000 with xt60 ends on them. what ends do I need on the adapter? I see some on horizon hobby for 6 bucks but they are female xt60 to male xt90 is that the correct one's thx glenn
If I remember right, i think the male connector side is on the esc with the females on the battery side.
what is the length from nose to tail? need to know if I can take it with me on a Airplane on my next trip as luggage
Unfortunately I couldn't tell you at this point as I don't have the airplane anymore to take a dimension off of.
Well great view mate... thinking this cut be an upgrade from the E-flite Timber 1,5m, the grand looking so awesome love the gear... cheers from Denmark
I'd say this would be an upgrade, yeah. It's got some nice features and the airplane flies awesome!
The RC Geek thx the reply mate.. Gotta try it ;-). I was wondering if the landinggear cut fit a carbon z cup and hold to the little bit bigger plane any idea ? Cheers
I would imagine with some major modification it could be done.
Hey Chris I’m a new subscriber and I love your channel keep it up 👍🏻😁
Welcome and thank you! :)
My friend how can get get out the reverse, because when i get out the reverse in my spectrum receiver, the engine is going to reverse , thanks for you help
Well, typically all that would be required is to swap two of the 3 wires between the ESC and the motor. That'll change the direction of the motor. However, this is a reversable ESC so make sure it's not in reverse mode. I never explored that with this model, so unfortunately can't really help there on the ESC programming.
How do you wire the LED's?
I don't remember off hand and I don't have the airplane anymore to look. They only require power, so if you connect them all together and plug them into the Rx, they should light up.
Nice chase scenes from 8:17!
Why are planes on the wall moving??
They're hanging from a single attachment in the ceiling, so it's pretty typical for them to rotate around like that. Doesn't take much.
Y don’t understand good English whats better finaly the 4s battery or 6s thanks!!
Honestly, either works great. 4 cell is great for cruising around and doing scale type aerobatics. 6 cell is great for much more extreme aerobatics. So, it really depends on what you want to get out of the airplane.
Landing Gear Assembly Looks like a Nightmare to Assemble?
It wasn’t terrible actually
Hobby King, the instructions are optional.😂
Lol
Nice!!
As of 11/28/17, there are still no instructions being provided in the box! Lots of small parts!!
Oh fun! Well, that's in part why I covered the assembly here the way I did. I also have pictures and description in my review article too.
Durafly says the manual is under UPLOADS. Kinda not intuitive if you ask me! I will try to load the link or the manual tomorrow.
oh, interesting!
That landing gear looks way to flimsy , a landing gear in a funcup style a simpel pice of bended pianowire will do the work way better , i do fly both planes a i switched the landing gear on the tundra , tundra is a nice bush style plane that fly nice a it will fit in the back of your car 👍😎 remember fly it like you stole it ....
Like the Grand Tundra and you did a great job with the video, but drop the Chuck Norris, it not needed and made it hard to watch.
haha, we were just having some fun with it.
Afterall, Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer...too bad he's never cried! :p
Every time you speed up the assembly part I just move to another channel
Haha! This is a pretty old vid. I’ve change that since then on my newer stuff.