Hey Cameron and Matt, Thanks for the Omega episode. While I'm a strong believer that no one wins arguments on the internet, I feel I'd be remiss if I didn't add some detail around the issue of the production of the 30I Tourbillon. The movement was designed by Marcel Vuilleumier (Director of the watchmaking school in Le Sentier), but the movements (including prototypes) were indeed produced by Omega's own Jean-Pierre Matthey-Claudet. While it's unfortunate that Omega makes the infamous claim about making the first minute repeater wristwatch, I think you unjustly cast suspicion on their involvement (or lack of) with the 30I calibre, which was indeed a major breakthrough for the brand, and a technical innovation at the time. In this case, a small amount of research would have been sufficient to avoid this misunderstanding.
I concur with you, Brandon. And I don't think it is unfortunate the minute repeater subject. It was Omega's idea, not AP's. AP has used many times movements from other brands with AP's ideas..., as well as PP and VC.
Have not listened yet as I am listening in order (currently on ep. 16), but I am massively excited for this. Glad to see it is a long episode as well. Keep pushing them out!
With relation to the Omega Marine, a thorough waterproof watch history can be found here: www.vintagewatchstraps.com/waterproof.php Several "water proof" watches were made before Omega and Rolex. The monopolies always try to rewrite history.
Loved the Omega episode. Have a suggestion for a future 'themed' show; Porsche Design. Not a manufacturer, but a decently long history as a design house, plus a lot of appeal to the car-enthusiast / watch-enthusiast crossover crowd. Thanks for a great podcast!
Thanks guys, overall good episode. An analogy for Cameron, since I understand his opinion that the awards should be less meaningful since the movements were not Omegas. The McLaren F1 was advertised and recorded as the fastest car in the world. This was because of its total package. No one criticized them that it had a BMW engine.
That maybe true, but most of the watch awards directly measure nothing but the movement, and nothing else about the watch. Where as a car is more of a complete package prospect when looking at overall performance. How if the car award was only for horsepower or engine reliability, I think the point would be more valid. Nonetheless, I still love Omega and think they make some great watches
Great podcast but can’t believe you didn’t talk about the Moonphase co-axial with the satellite image of the moon and Neil Armstrong’s footprint on the moon!
What I really enjoy a lot about this show, is that you guys have A LOT of watches on display. It's a pity about the camera, it would be nice to glare on those examples for longer. And Matt, seems like you've got into rhythm with the cameras, well done. Also, did not expect that Speedmaster Meteorite. That's really really good, got me interested in it. Awesome.
The Omega Speedmaster Professional is still the only watch flight-qualified by NASA for EVA. The X33 is not qualified for EVA. Kinda comes off that you guys have not done your research on the Speedy.
Dudes before Omega James Bond used other watch brands besides Rolex, including Seiko, Breitling, Gruen......they settled on Omega in part because Omega was largest supplier of watches to military in WW2 reflected the image of secret service rather than status symbol.
I like the video guys but you got a lot of facts wrong at the end. That was a Speedmaster '57 not a reduced. It's just the original size which only differs by a couple mm due to the next version case being asymmetrical to protect the crown and pushers. There is no He valve on a Proplof. The case is designed to be impenetrable to He as it was in the original. The modern Seamaster and Seamaster PO chronographs do not have screw down pushers as the pushers are water resistant and can be used under water. Just an FYI for ya.
technical aspects and precision capabilities have definately taken a back seat to aesthetics and design, but look at the Top Japanese offerings, who still regards this ( precision mechanical and Battery - Timekeeping / measuringTools) ( and Spring drive tech in between) as important as design and aesthetics of a watch.
Mark Smolenski completely agree, on the surface there’s so much variety in the brand whatever your style/taste and the deeper you delve into their archived styles it’s just an absolute treasure trove
Hey guys, it's being dweld on, sometimes a bit more than necessary or needed by Omega, and thats why some people only remembers the moonthing, when thinking and talking about Omaga.
"Comptoir " is a table or bench on which goods for trade are offered and displayed. The meaning used as it is used in French means as much as a "sales counter " Paddy
Have you guys thought about doing an episode on some of the smaller brands (ball, zodiac, Bell and Ross, oris, etc) and only doing like 15 minute histories on each?
Question about co-axials. If normal servicing isn't needed until parts need to be replaced is buying a pre-owned 10-20 year old watch with a co-axial a bit of a time bomb? Will the cost of servicing be high enough where it would be a better idea to buy new or just a few years old?
Hey Matt, as far as the watch camera goes, there are some electronics repair TH-cam channels that have some pretty great close up cameras that you could possibly look into. EEVBlog uses a mantis elite that looks real nice with optical zoom. Not sure of his whole setup regarding what camera he has attached to it. It also might be expensive, I don’t know what your budget is.
Matt...big Pearl jam fan? Noticed ink on left arm....By far my favorite band of all time!!!!Eddie,Jeff,Stone,Mike, & Matt!Do you know if any of them into watches???
You guys do your due diligence, AP and most top watch brands shared technology. AP Royal Oak designed by Gerald Genta. Gerald designed the Patek Nautilus, Omega Constellation. Patek, Roger Dubuis and Omega used Lemania based movements on chronograph. AP and Richard Mille uses Renaud & Papi to make their complicated movements. 😏 Omega is among the top tier watch brands with amazing history and achievements. Recently most brands brag about in-house movements. Go buy something else that an actor who made spaghetti sauce 😂
Actually the Speedmaster Professional manually wound is still a government issued tool for manned flight missions. The X-33 is designed specifically for life on the ISS.
If you expect me to believe we went to the moon when everyone was still using mechanical watches and before quartz watches were widespread, you're crazy.
Nerd here, i like that speedmaster too :D It actually looks great. I personally relly do not like Rolex or grand seiko because they look so fat (the dial markings are waaaaay to bulbous and large).
Matt what about putting a mirror on 45° over the watch table and filming through the mirror with a dslr on a tripod next to the table? You would have to mirror the video but i am gonna guess that that is not hard?
I get the feeling from this Cam isn't too keen on Omega. For me Omega is the reason I wear Tissot...lol Might not carry the prestige as Omega but when you get to the nitty gritty Omegas tend to be an overpriced Tissot. I go back and forth with my bud who is an Omega fanboy. His Speedmaster has had to be serviced 3 times in a year while my 1 70s Tissot pr516 lemania has only needed a plunger. My modern prs516 chronos have needed NOTHING... LOL In fact some of the Speedys have modded eta 7750s and 7753s .
Thank God Cameron mentioned Bond... for all of about five seconds. I know its marketing but Omega would not be where they are today without the visibility the Bond movies give them.
Audemars Piget were "modest watchmakers in the mountains"...? OMG..., Audemars was never a modest watchmaker. Simply, Omega had the idea to do that. It was Omega's idea. Just as Audemars had the idea of a luxury stainless steel sports watch, and they put inside a JLC movement inside. That's a JLC...? Patek, Vacheron and Audemars have used movements from others. In fact, Audemars has used modules from Lemania, which was part of the same company than Omega. That Constellation has an in-house movement, designed, produced by Omega, and Omega made those cases... Also, there are still been held accuracy competitions. Your video shows a personal dislike for a magnificent brand that has done many amazing things and some of the best in-house movements of the XXth Century, as the 30mm, the 3XX, the 5XX and 7XX. Come on!
Omg I love it when people jump in (without showing their credentials) and regurgitate random information they read on Wikipedia to correct the guy who actually worked at AP, as well as builds his own watches by hand now. 👋
@Kasumov Music, Reactions & Reviews What is your point...? I love it when people like you are so poorly educated, they think ad verecundiams are valid... WOW! What exactly from what I said is not correct? That I would love much more than an inespecific critique.
I don't know if anyone else pointed this out... but Omega does not claim to make the first tourbillon wristwatch. Your statement is a little twisted up. 1947 is the year Omega introduces THEIR first tourbillon wristwatch. An article on Hodinkee reads that the first tourbillon wristwatch came out in 1931/32 made by French watchmaker, Lip. And wait a minute... you question if Omega MADE the tourbillon, or bought it & slapped their name on it, but you don't say you know this for sure nor do you present any evidence. You "ventured a guess". LOL And then, as an example to support that statement, you bring up the minute repeater?! And then later your even say, "I haven't looked into the tourbillon... but I'd venture a guess that they had somebody else create it..." That is ridiculous. ZERO credibility & just a stupid thing to say. LOL
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Hey Cameron and Matt,
Thanks for the Omega episode. While I'm a strong believer that no one wins arguments on the internet, I feel I'd be remiss if I didn't add some detail around the issue of the production of the 30I Tourbillon. The movement was designed by Marcel Vuilleumier (Director of the watchmaking school in Le Sentier), but the movements (including prototypes) were indeed produced by Omega's own Jean-Pierre Matthey-Claudet.
While it's unfortunate that Omega makes the infamous claim about making the first minute repeater wristwatch, I think you unjustly cast suspicion on their involvement (or lack of) with the 30I calibre, which was indeed a major breakthrough for the brand, and a technical innovation at the time.
In this case, a small amount of research would have been sufficient to avoid this misunderstanding.
Thank you for this information. I'm not sure why Cam seemed overall hesitant to vouch for Omega reputation and awards in this particular episode.
I concur with you, Brandon. And I don't think it is unfortunate the minute repeater subject. It was Omega's idea, not AP's. AP has used many times movements from other brands with AP's ideas..., as well as PP and VC.
Anyone else see Weiss Watch Co. be featured on Buzzfeed. Way to go Cameron!
Have not listened yet as I am listening in order (currently on ep. 16), but I am massively excited for this. Glad to see it is a long episode as well. Keep pushing them out!
Brett Campbell the podcasts have been getting better every episode your in for a treat when you catch up
With relation to the Omega Marine, a thorough waterproof watch history can be found here: www.vintagewatchstraps.com/waterproof.php
Several "water proof" watches were made before Omega and Rolex. The monopolies always try to rewrite history.
Loved the Omega episode. Have a suggestion for a future 'themed' show; Porsche Design. Not a manufacturer, but a decently long history as a design house, plus a lot of appeal to the car-enthusiast / watch-enthusiast crossover crowd. Thanks for a great podcast!
Thanks guys, overall good episode.
An analogy for Cameron, since I understand his opinion that the awards should be less meaningful since the movements were not Omegas.
The McLaren F1 was advertised and recorded as the fastest car in the world.
This was because of its total package. No one criticized them that it had a BMW engine.
That maybe true, but most of the watch awards directly measure nothing but the movement, and nothing else about the watch. Where as a car is more of a complete package prospect when looking at overall performance. How if the car award was only for horsepower or engine reliability, I think the point would be more valid. Nonetheless, I still love Omega and think they make some great watches
Great podcast but can’t believe you didn’t talk about the Moonphase co-axial with the satellite image of the moon and Neil Armstrong’s footprint on the moon!
Great video guys. Slightly disappointed you didn't cover the Planet Ocean. Love the watch cam
What I really enjoy a lot about this show, is that you guys have A LOT of watches on display. It's a pity about the camera, it would be nice to glare on those examples for longer. And Matt, seems like you've got into rhythm with the cameras, well done.
Also, did not expect that Speedmaster Meteorite. That's really really good, got me interested in it. Awesome.
Man, we definitely need an Elgin & Friends history dive episode at some point.
The Omega Speedmaster Professional is still the only watch flight-qualified by NASA for EVA. The X33 is not qualified for EVA. Kinda comes off that you guys have not done your research on the Speedy.
Dudes before Omega James Bond used other watch brands besides Rolex, including Seiko, Breitling, Gruen......they settled on Omega in part because Omega was largest supplier of watches to military in WW2 reflected the image of secret service rather than status symbol.
I like the video guys but you got a lot of facts wrong at the end. That was a Speedmaster '57 not a reduced. It's just the original size which only differs by a couple mm due to the next version case being asymmetrical to protect the crown and pushers. There is no He valve on a Proplof. The case is designed to be impenetrable to He as it was in the original. The modern Seamaster and Seamaster PO chronographs do not have screw down pushers as the pushers are water resistant and can be used under water. Just an FYI for ya.
technical aspects and precision capabilities have definately taken a back seat to aesthetics and design, but look at the Top Japanese offerings, who still regards this ( precision mechanical and Battery - Timekeeping / measuringTools) ( and Spring drive tech in between) as important as design and aesthetics of a watch.
My favorite brand, if I had to be a one man brand this would be it.
Mark Smolenski completely agree, on the surface there’s so much variety in the brand whatever your style/taste and the deeper you delve into their archived styles it’s just an absolute treasure trove
Hey guys, it's being dweld on, sometimes a bit more than necessary or needed by Omega, and thats why some people only remembers the moonthing, when thinking and talking about Omaga.
omegas next model..the "lapdance timer"...yes please
Sounds like more of a Jaquet Droz sort of thing.
it times in increments of $50
"Comptoir " is a table or bench on which goods for trade are offered and displayed.
The meaning used as it is used in French means as much as a "sales counter "
Paddy
you could have an entire episode on the history of the Speedy.
Have you guys thought about doing an episode on some of the smaller brands (ball, zodiac, Bell and Ross, oris, etc) and only doing like 15 minute histories on each?
Question about co-axials. If normal servicing isn't needed until parts need to be replaced is buying a pre-owned 10-20 year old watch with a co-axial a bit of a time bomb? Will the cost of servicing be high enough where it would be a better idea to buy new or just a few years old?
or how bout, the "lapmaster"?
Hey Matt, as far as the watch camera goes, there are some electronics repair TH-cam channels that have some pretty great close up cameras that you could possibly look into. EEVBlog uses a mantis elite that looks real nice with optical zoom. Not sure of his whole setup regarding what camera he has attached to it. It also might be expensive, I don’t know what your budget is.
Matt...big Pearl jam fan? Noticed ink on left arm....By far my favorite band of all time!!!!Eddie,Jeff,Stone,Mike, & Matt!Do you know if any of them into watches???
FYI the ST1 & ST2 trade above sticker price.
You guys do your due diligence, AP and most top watch brands shared technology. AP Royal Oak designed by Gerald Genta. Gerald designed the Patek Nautilus, Omega Constellation. Patek, Roger Dubuis and Omega used Lemania based movements on chronograph. AP and Richard Mille uses Renaud & Papi to make their complicated movements. 😏 Omega is among the top tier watch brands with amazing history and achievements.
Recently most brands brag about in-house movements. Go buy something else that an actor who made spaghetti sauce 😂
My favourite brand. Great watches
Anyone have any thoughts on Ball watches? They seem to make good watches but I don't hear much about them.
Lonzo...LaMelo? Don't buy the "LiAngelo" might be stolen.😂
My Omega Grail is the Blue Dial on Steel bracelet caliber 9605.❤😍😎
Actually the Speedmaster Professional manually wound is still a government issued tool for manned flight missions. The X-33 is designed specifically for life on the ISS.
Thanks 👍👍
I'm getting that 42mm green dial Weiss field watch ASAP !
Planet Oceans are my jam.
Comptoir literally means a countertop or a bench top
Farah when are you copping your first Richard Mille ?
If you expect me to believe we went to the moon when everyone was still using mechanical watches and before quartz watches were widespread, you're crazy.
Nerd here, i like that speedmaster too :D It actually looks great. I personally relly do not like Rolex or grand seiko because they look so fat (the dial markings are waaaaay to bulbous and large).
Omega Lomania? I need a sticker for that!
Can't wait to see Super chat on this one too.
What is the camera issue? 7FPS? What camera was that.
You can get a nice DSLR that does 1080p/60fps for less than $1000.
keyboard builder yes but you can’t make a camera like that seamlessly work with wire cast. Easy, no-hassle Compatibility with wire cast is a must.
Should of covered the Alaska project too
Cameron, has anybody told you that you look like ashton kutcher?
Matt what about putting a mirror on 45° over the watch table and filming through the mirror with a dslr on a tripod next to the table? You would have to mirror the video but i am gonna guess that that is not hard?
HackiH you can’t seamlessly use DSLR’s with wirecast. It is a huge pain in the ass and not worth it
WatchAndListenPodcast damn okay. I guess its not that bad right now xD
The Silver Snoop Award aka “Saving someones ass in space” (Source: NASA) 🙈😆
I get the feeling from this Cam isn't too keen on Omega. For me Omega is the reason I wear Tissot...lol Might not carry the prestige as Omega but when you get to the nitty gritty Omegas tend to be an overpriced Tissot. I go back and forth with my bud who is an Omega fanboy. His Speedmaster has had to be serviced 3 times in a year while my 1 70s Tissot pr516 lemania has only needed a plunger. My modern prs516 chronos have needed NOTHING... LOL In fact some of the Speedys have modded eta 7750s and 7753s .
Best Brand.
what about Norman Morris?
patria was a watch they made in the 1920,s early 30,s jeff
Super watch
Not bad guys. Matt, you never gave me your thoughts on the watches I sent you pics of mate.
maybe not a hue market in this crowd. but i think there should be an episode dedicated to Women's watches.
a watch is a watch, it can be worn by anyone. Quit posting shit like this
Omega Lapmaster
beautiful super! :)
Say no to snoopy on a luxury watch.
Классное приложение
I like
beautiful good
No new episode?
same thought... Watch and listen has slotted into my weekly must listen
Just watching this watch shit because of matt. I'm shamefully very interested.
Klass 👍👍
Thank God Cameron mentioned Bond... for all of about five seconds. I know its marketing but Omega would not be where they are today without the visibility the Bond movies give them.
Sundancepreacher we don’t think it’s important to dwell on paid product placements for cheeseball stuff like bond.
WatchAndListenPodcast you talked about McQueens Tag Monaco watch, how is that any different?
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Audemars Piget were "modest watchmakers in the mountains"...? OMG..., Audemars was never a modest watchmaker. Simply, Omega had the idea to do that. It was Omega's idea. Just as Audemars had the idea of a luxury stainless steel sports watch, and they put inside a JLC movement inside. That's a JLC...? Patek, Vacheron and Audemars have used movements from others. In fact, Audemars has used modules from Lemania, which was part of the same company than Omega. That Constellation has an in-house movement, designed, produced by Omega, and Omega made those cases... Also, there are still been held accuracy competitions. Your video shows a personal dislike for a magnificent brand that has done many amazing things and some of the best in-house movements of the XXth Century, as the 30mm, the 3XX, the 5XX and 7XX. Come on!
Omg I love it when people jump in (without showing their credentials) and regurgitate random information they read on Wikipedia to correct the guy who actually worked at AP, as well as builds his own watches by hand now. 👋
@Kasumov Music, Reactions & Reviews What is your point...? I love it when people like you are so poorly educated, they think ad verecundiams are valid... WOW! What exactly from what I said is not correct? That I would love much more than an inespecific critique.
Matt doesn’t know much
Those "LIV" watches are crap. Sorry.
Agreed. They look cheap.
Longines was after Rolex
what a waste of time these guys have no clue what they are on about so much misinformation
I don't know if anyone else pointed this out... but Omega does not claim to make the first tourbillon wristwatch. Your statement is a little twisted up. 1947 is the year Omega introduces THEIR first tourbillon wristwatch. An article on Hodinkee reads that the first tourbillon wristwatch came out in 1931/32 made by French watchmaker, Lip.
And wait a minute... you question if Omega MADE the tourbillon, or bought it & slapped their name on it, but you don't say you know this for sure nor do you present any evidence. You "ventured a guess". LOL And then, as an example to support that statement, you bring up the minute repeater?! And then later your even say, "I haven't looked into the tourbillon... but I'd venture a guess that they had somebody else create it..." That is ridiculous. ZERO credibility & just a stupid thing to say. LOL