HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT: Tim Armstrong and Jesse Michaels Reunion (DOOM REGULATOR, bad optix)

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  • HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT: Tim Armstrong and Jesse Michaels Reunion (DOOM REGULATOR, bad optix)
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  • @danframpt0n
    @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว +11

    hey howzagoin'?

    • @denine5232
      @denine5232 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm kind of a newer subscriber and really enjoy your content and I hope this channel grows. There's not enough youtubers covering punk. So I really appreciate what you do here.

    • @CannaToker420
      @CannaToker420 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bad. It burns when I piss

    • @paulruger
      @paulruger ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you're timeline is completely off they recorded "Living in a Dangerous Land" in 2013

  • @canadianeastcoaster5142
    @canadianeastcoaster5142 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I'm VERY excited for Tim and Jesse working together again. Super stoked, this guy is The Punk Rock Hater. Hates everything for the click.
    Tim and Jesse together is HUGE

    • @Ty-138
      @Ty-138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true. Kind of a whiney tool at times.

    • @pete7164
      @pete7164 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, but the first single does kinda suck

    • @sebastianw4577
      @sebastianw4577 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      STOPPPPP!!!! Their days are OVER!!!

  • @HyperUserGoesHyperer
    @HyperUserGoesHyperer ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m just happy my dads are back together again

  • @Rudeboy008
    @Rudeboy008 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    They changed the name because there is a band called bad optics from Seattle already that has been around the punk scene for a little bit, and they are making waves a little, and they politely asked Tim and Jesse to change the name so that they could keep their band name that they've been working on for a few years.

  • @HAHA_Holocaust
    @HAHA_Holocaust ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hot take but Rancid's first demos before Lars is some of the finest punk I've ever heard.

  • @MikeB12800
    @MikeB12800 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Tim and Matt didn’t form Rancid for a while after Op Ivy broke up. Op Ivy was getting too big so they broke up. Tim started drinking heavily and doing drugs and going nowhere. So Matt called him up to start a band to try to help his friend get his life together. That’s when Rancid formed. Pretty sure there’s videos of Matt and Tim talking about this.

    • @jeffreyhoffman3445
      @jeffreyhoffman3445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Downfall was Tim & Matt's first band after opiv. Unless you count DHC

  • @davesleyer9393
    @davesleyer9393 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like bad optics better as a band name. I’m stoked for this project. It opens the door for one off op ivy shows in the future. I’m glad they buried the hatchet and are making art together again

    • @MarkFromMaine420
      @MarkFromMaine420 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umm forever in our veins forever?!!!? Dude whatch yerself brother I'm the huuuuuugest nerd out mall rat OpIvy and rancid nut there is I know of ❤❤❤ let's go or 2000 in my.ass opinion
      BAD OPTIX

    • @standinsilence
      @standinsilence ปีที่แล้ว

      Im sure he came up with the name "bad optics" after his doctor prescribed glasses with the wrong strength. That must be it.

  • @briantomcollins
    @briantomcollins ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After hearing 'Raid', i'm stoked to hear the album.

  • @DanielHuman1996
    @DanielHuman1996 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hate to say it, but Doom Regulator is a terrible name compared to Bad OPtix. It seems like self-sabotage. Lol, is there a new Rancid album coming out?

  • @paulcowdrey3993
    @paulcowdrey3993 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought they changed it because a super small band with the same name made a bunch of noise about it.

  • @paullanderman5557
    @paullanderman5557 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dear God! Is there even a god?? Two fifty-something men are not the same as they were in their teens?!!

  • @patrickanthony3572
    @patrickanthony3572 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They changed their name to DOOM REGULATOR as ‘Bad Optics’ made them aware they were upset. They changed it promptly out of respect it seems. I preferred BAD OPTIX, but we need a bit of doom regulation during these tough and rough days!

  • @briantomcollins
    @briantomcollins ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There was a band called Downfall between OPIV and Rancid. Similar to OPIV. There's some stuff on the TH-cam. Really good actually. Not sure if Matt was involved or not. Sounds like it to my ears tho.

    • @stevedevotion7311
      @stevedevotion7311 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      matt was in downfall. then they formed dance hall crashers and promptly quit to form rancid

    • @AB1138-
      @AB1138- ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Downfall Leaks are legit worth listening to. Perhaps moreso than operation ivy. Very disappointing we don't have an official release or remaster.

    • @briantomcollins
      @briantomcollins ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevedevotion7311 thanx for that. I always forget they were in DHC for a minute.

    • @briantomcollins
      @briantomcollins ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AB1138- i agree, they're great songs. A studio album woulda been amazing. I would even take a well done single or 2.

    • @AB1138-
      @AB1138- ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briantomcollins they had recorded a small albums worth of songs. Some higher quality rips of a few of them are floating around all the muck.

  • @JacobSmith-hz2tr
    @JacobSmith-hz2tr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So this isn’t going to be popular. Americans never really got Ska. It’s a British/Jamaican thing. Plenty of US bands tried to copy Ska from the UK but it always sounded too polished. Listen to the Mm Bostones then The Specials and you’ll see what I mean. This is new in that it actually sounds like a genuine regale record, it’s got some real dirt about it and it works. I like.

    • @stigohara2842
      @stigohara2842 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Most US incarnations were too clean, too brass oriented, not enough garage vibe.

  • @EddieTheH
    @EddieTheH 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, a few big events blended with some extra fictional drama and in the wrong order.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:50 yeah bad optix is a much better band name.

  • @bayareaangler5103
    @bayareaangler5103 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, hope they come to Gilman. I remember when Lint used to sell tye dye on Telegraph. Saw Op Ivy many times around the bay area. I always used to wear my two tone ska shirt with my MA1 jacket and docs… Lint even complimented me on my shirt once, sweet! Hope they play at Gilman.

  • @TheSaltySeaman
    @TheSaltySeaman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100 they should have kept Bad Optix, I keep expecting Doom Regulator to be Tim's stab at doom metal (which I wouldn't mind, tbh)

  • @hiding_my_name
    @hiding_my_name 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok, wasnt a fan of this channel, then heard Dan Framton's opinion of Rancid (2000). The most underrated Rancid album. One of my favs as well.
    I guess I have to subscribe now.

    • @danevertt3210
      @danevertt3210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2000 is one of the best, if not, the best.

  • @josephstarnes8747
    @josephstarnes8747 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like I'm too old for emo-gi's but I do like pancakes. And waffles too. They remind me of the song The Brews by NOFX. But I don't really like NOFX. I do like your channel though. That's the whole reason I'm writing this comment. :))

  • @Rudeboy008
    @Rudeboy008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The song was more or less a 60s rock steady styles song with vocals over it

  • @standinsilence
    @standinsilence ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frampton is trolling us all making it sound like he actually likes Rancid.
    Wait..
    Im not supposed to "watch another upload"?!
    Im confused here.

  • @blackphillip8486
    @blackphillip8486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🎃👻🎃🥞🥞🥞 I like horrorpunk...

  • @lassegronroos3729
    @lassegronroos3729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative, thanks for explaining this! And yes, Bad Optix is a better name.

  • @ratthunder8
    @ratthunder8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bring back the Expos!

  • @JimmyChangE16
    @JimmyChangE16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think there's a new Rancid Album out next week

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:17 agrre

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hahaha it sure did! It took over

  • @beer_wizard.
    @beer_wizard. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞🥞🥞🥞
    Four out of five pancakes, keep up the good work Dan.

  • @dellarae
    @dellarae ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doom regulator? Sounds more like a band on tour with sunn or something.

    • @sebastianw4577
      @sebastianw4577 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Scrotum Regulator

  • @PAxBONESxHC
    @PAxBONESxHC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your enemies will make your channel grow. Love the content. You should start a series doing the history of bands

  • @hannahkozlovic1715
    @hannahkozlovic1715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Methinks I shall comment because you asked so nicely. I liked the song, it didn’t blow me away or anything but I’m looking forwards to more.

  • @emmanuelvillegas3225
    @emmanuelvillegas3225 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞 🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @markridgman8559
    @markridgman8559 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @dejavoodoo7204
    @dejavoodoo7204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @barnold23
    @barnold23 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for the algo!!!!!!!!!!!
    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @johnnyconsumer
    @johnnyconsumer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello… 46 year old guy here. I was a young buck even after Operation Ivy was a thing. They’re in their 50’s now… the world has changed (for the worse) in the last 30 years…and honestly… nothing really matters anymore. End stage capitalism dreams. Peace.

  • @stigohara2842
    @stigohara2842 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very into this song. So glad to hear them together again. It hits the right spot for me, hope there's much more to come.

  • @christopherbarney8424
    @christopherbarney8424 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You crack me up kid, keep on keeping on!

  • @hankgege2199
    @hankgege2199 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well we only heard one song. Hopefully there's more songs more in a hardcore/punk direction. The new Classics of Love is straight on hardcore so maybe there's more songs like that style. With a name like Doom Regulator I'm sure there will be.

  • @JoshuaMutant
    @JoshuaMutant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Doom Regulator

  • @strictdrugregiment
    @strictdrugregiment ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You wanna do creator clash, call out Sam hyde

  • @kabukimanindahouse
    @kabukimanindahouse ปีที่แล้ว +3

    before rancid tim and matt had a few non-succesful projects like downfall etc
    it's not a seamless switch from op ivy to rancid

  • @leadsled49
    @leadsled49 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you weren't a punk back in the day , you probably wouldn't know but operation ivy broke up they started a band called Downfall and recorded one record then after that band they started Rancid....

  • @sadeau
    @sadeau ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @Unclenicklnj
    @Unclenicklnj ปีที่แล้ว

    They changed it because bad optix was already being used

  • @o.a.rodriguez7484
    @o.a.rodriguez7484 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should've called themselves Bad Sequel such a missed opportunity

  • @soysaucefool
    @soysaucefool ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do some videos about Osker, and what happend to their singer.

  • @alwarrior211
    @alwarrior211 ปีที่แล้ว

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @thedjsquared
    @thedjsquared ปีที่แล้ว

    Raid is a good song and calls back to thr opivy track "Take Warning" with horns added. Like bad optix vs doom regulator but like some have said it is the name of another band.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a tale 😍

  • @jaaxxone
    @jaaxxone 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Were you even born when Energy came out?

  • @paulr.7009
    @paulr.7009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @jay21md
    @jay21md ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the op ivy history

  • @grsfhhytff
    @grsfhhytff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞 😂

  • @sebastianw4577
    @sebastianw4577 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tim Armstrong didn't want to be in a little "humble, punk rock/ska band" he wanted to sell out! Like Green Day. Therefore, FOREVER ruining Op. Ivy!!!
    (OH WHAT COULD'VE BEEN!!!!) 🥺🥺😩😩😫😫

  • @pilotbowman
    @pilotbowman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I'm pumped for this. Tim has so many good side bands/projects

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how many ppl did actually spam the pancakes!!!!!

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's see how long we can keep it going!

  • @sunrize4602
    @sunrize4602 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    dw garth i got you 🥞

  • @RKM1891
    @RKM1891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💿

  • @ljrees1721
    @ljrees1721 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just reform Operation Ivy

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว

    🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞🥞

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woot woot

  • @JAWS_164
    @JAWS_164 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the song Raid tbh

  • @marcoheld5516
    @marcoheld5516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞🥞🥞

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎉🎉🎉

  • @alienio4970
    @alienio4970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doom regulator sounds waaaay better than Bad optix. I thought bad optix was a terrible band name from the jump. Plus I really dig the traditional ska sound they're going for instead of ska-punk. Fits them better.

  • @fenoglios
    @fenoglios ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Raid is a badass song. Can't wait for the rest of the album.

  • @williamhammock4821
    @williamhammock4821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥞

  • @rickkanas7331
    @rickkanas7331 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What are your thoughts about "Living In a Dangerous Land" by Tim and Jesse on the Ska Against Racism album?

  • @shaolinotter
    @shaolinotter ปีที่แล้ว

    im looking forward to your major label debut

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm looking forward to your next comment. You deserve a mulligan after that stinker.

  • @TheBlakeEverhart
    @TheBlakeEverhart ปีที่แล้ว

    What you do here is entertaining, you here that algorithm?

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @patrickhurley7029
    @patrickhurley7029 ปีที่แล้ว

    not a disappoint

  • @lignjoslavakagreenre
    @lignjoslavakagreenre ปีที่แล้ว

    they changed the name. LOL

  • @THEEArmoredSaint
    @THEEArmoredSaint ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pancake🥞

  • @bryanfrombuffalo7685
    @bryanfrombuffalo7685 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny hearing someone who wasnt even born tell a story they read on the internet

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's literally a brand new song. I'm also 40. Eat my sh1t

  • @michellebot
    @michellebot ปีที่แล้ว

    🤦‍♀️

  • @dougsangalang
    @dougsangalang 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @dougsangalang
    1 second ago
    This song is Rad! hate to be disagreeable but Dont be swayed by this this video review! Decide for yourselves. IMO Dope production thought provoking lyrics , time bomb Tim does it again with this supernatural guitar hook and with the mastery of an architect building a bridge . 2 legendary pioneers of the 2nd wave , respect for 1st wave Jamaican Rocksteady kings. Perhaps your expectation was the thief of happiness with regard to your review . Perhaps listen again and beware to first Free your mind. There’s Black magic in this music if it grabs you there’s nothing to fear it just means you have IT.

  • @hunterdavis3003
    @hunterdavis3003 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like you bro your cool

  • @zerocool943
    @zerocool943 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓

  • @ashmiester84
    @ashmiester84 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    an unbeleivable amount of misinformation in this video

  • @Whitehorse_crimefighter
    @Whitehorse_crimefighter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So there was already a band called bad optics and I'm sure they made em change their name immediately.
    When I first heard raid I was digging it . By the time they had their name changed I was over it. It's a good song but it isn't great and would have hit harder ten years ago. I'd like to see new common rider albums tbh.

    • @Whitehorse_crimefighter
      @Whitehorse_crimefighter ปีที่แล้ว

      I dig the sax but it sounds like it was recorded at a different quality then the rest of the instruments and it makes it stand out in a bad way. It sounds classic but at the same time over produced and way too polished for something also at the same time trying to be lofi. I'd like to hear more but I won't expect it to be the best shit ever. They should go back to ripping off the clash. That's the shit we all love

    • @TheJinjo75
      @TheJinjo75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Raid is a solid rocksteady song and I'm fine with that. This people are pushing 50. I'm not expecting them to revolutionize the genre.

    • @TheJinjo75
      @TheJinjo75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Whitehorse_crimefighter When exactly Operation Ivy ripped the Clash? 🤷🤷🤷

    • @Whitehorse_crimefighter
      @Whitehorse_crimefighter ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@MFJon777 I'm talking "life won't wait", rancid's best album

    • @Whitehorse_crimefighter
      @Whitehorse_crimefighter ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheJinjo75 you aren't wrong though. It is pretty good. I'd just wish they would revolutionize shidd because a lot of new ska is just the second wave of third wave but more cringe

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:34 couldn’t do it

  • @DummyYEEEAAHHHHH
    @DummyYEEEAAHHHHH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok for one.....its not nor was intended to be an Operation Ivy reunion...its a whole new project. 2 you're literally the only person hating on it. Shit sounds dope...i guess you're sad that its something original amd not some recycled watered down attempt at recreating Op Ivy....so you basically invalidated your whole argument when you started by saying "this is not the op ivy reunion we wanted"....tool.

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  ปีที่แล้ว

      Do u get this mean when u disagree on best pizza toppings too? You're a vile, disgusting waste of human trash, you know that? You wanna get mean and petty, I can get mean and petty. You literally have no idea who you're dealing with here. Stfu, gtfo and never show your sad, pathetic face around here ever again, Brian. You have the media literacy of a 6 month old baby and a temperament to match. BRIAN

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let’s gooooooooooo! We gotta get you to next years creator clash!!!!

  • @EddieTheH
    @EddieTheH 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not embrace cringe to grow the channel, seems to be where it started...

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว

    🫶🏼🫶🏼😭

  • @Kennethlally124
    @Kennethlally124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not gonna lie I listen to more reggae these days than punk and the bad optics song is pretty bad😂

    • @Rudeboy008
      @Rudeboy008 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's good af but the vocals don't match at all

  • @walterpiper8947
    @walterpiper8947 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Speak for yourself. The song rules. You are telling on yourself.

  • @angusmcwhorter9012
    @angusmcwhorter9012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🍥 🍥 🍥 🍥

  • @Rudeboy008
    @Rudeboy008 ปีที่แล้ว

    The instrumental part of the song is amazing. In vein of 60s Rocksteady. Amazing. The instrumental is amazing and it is rocksteady the way it is meant to be played. With the one drop style beat and not all that extra obnoxious kick drum turning into a rock beat.

  • @Steve_643
    @Steve_643 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They’re missing Matt Freeman. He’s one of my favorite bass players

  • @stevedevotion7311
    @stevedevotion7311 ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved the new song. rancid is my favorite band but the only album of theirs i didnt like is the 2000 self titled. i think you just dont enjoy reggae. tims reggae album "a poets life" is one of my favorite albums. and i'm not sure where you were, but there was a ton of buzz when this new song came out. it filled all my social media feeds.

    • @wantutosigh1117
      @wantutosigh1117 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn, Rancid 2000 is easily one of my favorites. Amazing album.

    • @stevedevotion7311
      @stevedevotion7311 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wantutosigh1117 yeah i hear that from a lot of people. that was more of a hardcore record imo, and i like hardcore but i dont love it. i like rancid best when they have their ska/reggae influence combined with their 77' sound. and i'm a sucker for a good chorus

  • @MsDeeke
    @MsDeeke 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't even care what you have to say. Titling anything disappointing about Doom Regulator (Bad Optix) has to be whining bullshit.

    • @danframpt0n
      @danframpt0n  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya ok bud

    • @MsDeeke
      @MsDeeke 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was grumpy, sorry buddy. I see your take. Good luck scaling.

  • @AGENTARMES
    @AGENTARMES 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude all you do is trash Rancid and OpIvy in your titles to get clicks. NOT PUNK. Just greedy.

  • @trashcanjam
    @trashcanjam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doom regulator is such a boomer thing to name your band

  • @agnulittumc
    @agnulittumc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    man you're a big disappointment

  • @shanethestain
    @shanethestain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raid is great.

  • @BlackPatrick
    @BlackPatrick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    call me