TUTORIAL: Topology Optimization in Fusion 360 - 3D printing filament spool holder

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  • Fusion 360 beginners tutorial on how to use topology optimization to create a bionic filament spool holder.
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  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    If you want to skip ahead:
    Design space generation: 1:42
    Boundary conditions: 7:22
    Non-design areas: 9:50
    Meshing: 11:10
    Optimization results: 14:20
    Creating design from optimization: 15:30
    Printing the model: 22:20

    • @MitchellGuyon
      @MitchellGuyon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea it

    • @Lidocain777
      @Lidocain777 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holes can be done in an other way that seems more logicial to me :
      - add points at the right locations, exit sketch
      - hit "H", select point(s), "Simple" type, "Simple" tap type, distance "all", enter diameter.
      Done.
      You could also fiddle with "clearance" type and choose the screw type that fits in. :)

  • @max19970
    @max19970 6 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    The main difference between your channel and other 3D-oriented channels is that you tackle many technical issues, such as this, the one about the infill strength, etc. Thanks for that!

  • @davidkooi4349
    @davidkooi4349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Imagine if you had this for those bridge building competitions in highschool :)

  • @BlackBeardProjects
    @BlackBeardProjects 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Very interesting! Thank you

  • @android4cg
    @android4cg 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Amazing tutorial !!!! Really very useful ... never seen such useful information before.

  • @vokatius
    @vokatius 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you really much for making such extended tutorials, the topics you choose are really, *really* helpful and the amount of detail you put into them make it super easy to pick up; even if topics are as abstract as this one.

  • @gastondombiak1538
    @gastondombiak1538 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yet another AWESOME tutorial from you. I'm new to the 3D modeling and printing world and your videos are very rich in information. Learned so much from you. Keep it up.

  • @TarekMidani
    @TarekMidani 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The amount of quality put in your videos is astounding. Quality of information & rigor. Kudos I hope you go far in this

  • @AthanCondax
    @AthanCondax 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is an excellent video! Thanks!

  • @Sanjay_JT
    @Sanjay_JT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No bs. Straight to the topic. Absolutely loved it!

  • @chrille_dk
    @chrille_dk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great video. As a very novice Fusion 360 user I never leave the modelling environment - I guess it's time to! Also, the visible highlighting of the shortcut keys makes it much easier to follow along. I wish every youtuber doing Fusion 360 videos would add that

  • @farn0153
    @farn0153 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, I didn't even know that! A few weeks ago I was designing a filament holder myself in Fusion 360 and this would've been really handy... Nice video!

  • @digitalartsagent1338
    @digitalartsagent1338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel! I appreciate the content you provide.

  • @freestylekyle
    @freestylekyle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously one of the best videos 3-D printing related topic videos I have ever seen, also one of the best advanced fusion 360 videos I have ever seen. Thanks!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome and appreciate the feedback.

  • @lionelyork4960
    @lionelyork4960 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bonjour you are a really good teacher, thanks a lot!

  • @AndyTanguay
    @AndyTanguay 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video...I honestly didn't know F360 had this. What a world we live in when you can do this at home. Wow

  • @barskorkmaz8323
    @barskorkmaz8323 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You wıll reach 100k subs in no time. Great content as always thank you !

  • @danielhahn1606
    @danielhahn1606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this Video is absolutely great, I love it. I'm a mechanical engineer using Catia V5 (sparsely using the integrated FEM Analysis), and it's incredibly interesting to see how FEM Analysis and Shape Optimization is integrated into Fusion!

  • @caddyguy5369
    @caddyguy5369 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well put together!

  • @spikekent
    @spikekent 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic insight, thank you.

  • @hiddenlawyer
    @hiddenlawyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind blown, great video!!!

  • @cigp
    @cigp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always wanted to know this . Thx! More on that will be welcome

  • @System32F
    @System32F 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video thank you for this knowledge i just bought a 3D Printer and this will help me alot

  • @amarnatht9911
    @amarnatht9911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    keep up the gud work bro.....it helpd me to learn the fusion topology interface within minutes!! 😍

  • @user-qo8js3qk5z
    @user-qo8js3qk5z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really awesome video, thanks Stefan!

  • @avejst
    @avejst 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing
    Interesting stuff, I would like to see more of this, Love it :-)

  • @BCblackchicken
    @BCblackchicken 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really informative videos. Great work.

  • @0calvin
    @0calvin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was super interesting. I never even realized that function was in Fusion 360.

  • @TheRealStructurer
    @TheRealStructurer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. Never though of doing design this way so will give it a try 👍🏻

  • @yuanz210
    @yuanz210 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video, thanks!

  • @stanandre4539
    @stanandre4539 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome, thank you sir!

  • @HypeBeast764
    @HypeBeast764 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great!

  • @007superbob
    @007superbob 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma fai dei video fantastici! Complimenti veramente
    Your videos are fantastic! Congratulations

  • @saschaschwarz5850
    @saschaschwarz5850 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial!!

  • @yuanheli307
    @yuanheli307 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice and interesting tutorial!

  • @ATPodcast
    @ATPodcast 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good knowledge, thanks for sharing!

  • @McPcholkin
    @McPcholkin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuson 360 is powerful... thank you for video.

  • @swengross46
    @swengross46 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Very nice function. Thanks.

  • @hippie-io7225
    @hippie-io7225 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most excellent!

  • @kurtronhovde2184
    @kurtronhovde2184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will be using this! Thanks!

  • @adrianogoto4904
    @adrianogoto4904 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this amazing knowledge

  • @JGD444
    @JGD444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much! Subscribed!

  • @fascinacion3d424
    @fascinacion3d424 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suuuper geiles video, vielen vielen Dank!!

  • @siriusyou7178
    @siriusyou7178 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is very clear, thank you very much

  • @nobocks
    @nobocks 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video !

  • @AlexKenis
    @AlexKenis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid! I had been meaning to record a video of this exact process.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Please still consider doing that because there isn't a a lot of good information on that topic here on TH-cam.

  • @YuriPetrovich
    @YuriPetrovich 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant! Thanks

  • @leeleslie6615
    @leeleslie6615 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for your video

  • @ozgun228
    @ozgun228 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. The optimized shape reminds me what you would get using truss analogy method. A video to use at universities.

  • @4funrc11
    @4funrc11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! Very interesting, indeed. I'll definitely look into this. Thx and thumbs-up! PS - Nice color change in 360.

  • @koozdra
    @koozdra 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting!

  • @deanallenjones
    @deanallenjones 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came and subscribed because joel the 3d printer nerd told me to. Your videos look amazing

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! You won't be disappointed.

  • @vladimirsever334
    @vladimirsever334 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good and interesting tutorial,

  • @CPU0GUY
    @CPU0GUY 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very beneficial

  • @bobbobson9910
    @bobbobson9910 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video! thank you so much. I have one question/observation: although the load and mounting holes are symetrically placed on the part (mid point), the optimization results in an asymetrcal design with the middle truss member being offset to the right. can anyone explain why this is?

  • @asderidelp
    @asderidelp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i work on a students race car and we used Topology Optimization for nearly every part and these parts look so beautiful.
    purly functional, nothing there whats not needed

    • @MaximilianonMars
      @MaximilianonMars 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds awesome, did you make any vids or take pictures?

  • @fr3tles5
    @fr3tles5 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved it. Would love to see similar sorts of modelling, and in other free to use cad software too such as Onshape/openscad/etc.

  • @WayofWood
    @WayofWood 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful tutorial. I learned something useful. Thank you!

  • @youtubejack
    @youtubejack 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent thanks

  • @doxielain2231
    @doxielain2231 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wugga, I didn't know f360 did that. Awesomesauce! Thanks for increasing my skill set.

  • @dennisrkb
    @dennisrkb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx for the informative video. could you elaborate wny you unchecked y from the constraint of the bottom hole? thx!

  • @mortensentim511
    @mortensentim511 6 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Is there a reason why the simulation would put a support asymmetrically when the constraints and forces are all applied along the centerline of the part? It works out nicely for printing but seemed strange.

    • @smithe53
      @smithe53 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Tim Mortensen he didn't go into it, but there are settings that tell the software how the part will be made - 3d printing, cnc, extrusion, etc. Depending on these selections, the software will change placements of buttress features like this. I'm not sure if fusion has it yet, but other software packages also allow you to specify whether or not you want the part to be symmetric about a given plane as well. Hope this helps.

    • @LanceThumping
      @LanceThumping 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven't been able to find anything in Fusion 360 to set that it's a 3d printed object for that sort of thing. Do you know where it may be if there is such a setting?

    • @AmanRaiAgrawal
      @AmanRaiAgrawal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The software generally deploys a generative algorithm, so the initial source of the structure is random. And the algorithm tries to make it better with each iteration.

    • @argentosebastian
      @argentosebastian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smithe53 Where is that setting for the output? I normally use a cnc more than the 3d printer.

    • @sechr
      @sechr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes - it is a discretisation artefact which occurs because he runs the optimisation on an asymmetric mesh.

  • @TheTranq
    @TheTranq 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not sure if Fusuon allows for changing element size in areas but you only need the smaller ones near the stress concentration areas. Could get by with way less elements, especially if Fusion has plate elements

    • @BStott
      @BStott ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. And with the use case and the static loads he is using. The default mess look entirely adequate. What he did was way too fine.

  • @danielcortes-ql3bn
    @danielcortes-ql3bn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So aweome! Will look for a way to get similar results using solidworks

  • @Alluvian567
    @Alluvian567 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did the FEA show the cross support to be on only one side, the 'bottom' of the model (in fusion)? You made that support only half width as well when you made your design, but in the axis the forces and supports were fully symmetric.

  • @johndoe9536
    @johndoe9536 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Thanks for the video. I've only recently heard about topology optimization and am wondering about impact simulation ! If i use this video as an example you have defined the load point and added a couple of constraints for the mounting holes. The finite analysis includes these points into the analisys before you run the topology optimization. My question is how do you add extra loads to the model ? For instance of something knocks into thee side of the bracket adding an unexpected force if this was not defined then the bracket could fail !. Would this need to be considered at the modeling stage, the topology optimization stage or integrated into both ?

  • @ArneSchwarck
    @ArneSchwarck 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you changed the design so that the spool is supported not in the middle but more in line with the top hole. Would it save more material?

  • @dharamkarsaiabhishek4561
    @dharamkarsaiabhishek4561 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi can u post how a topology optimization is done to obtain compliant gripper using hypermesh software or fusion 360

  • @VincentGroenewold
    @VincentGroenewold 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I looooove these segments! It's such a good basis for further experimentation. Thanks! Nice to see you're using FormFutura recycled petg, I don't see many creators do that (recycling that is). I'm testing it right now but it does seem a bit brittle at any temperature, did you experience that?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the rPLA I printed with, which works totally fine. Only did some minor tests with the rPETG, so I can't really say much about it.

  • @JustInTime0525
    @JustInTime0525 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really learn something today, thanks!
    Would you consider showcasing every simulations in Fusion 360 in practical projects?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll be taking a look at some of the others in the future.

  • @user-ut4vl8bw2k
    @user-ut4vl8bw2k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man, i have a suggestion that in such build you should set infill at 100% to achieve actual results. Reason for this is that Topology Optimization do not calculate infill. It calculate topology for full-body solid object, and infill will broke equation. What i want to say that with 15% infill there will be totally different optimized shape that without infill 100% and program do not calculate it.

    • @natew.4699
      @natew.4699 ปีที่แล้ว

      i guess you could cad the infill and wall thickness as part of the design if you really need but it would be painfull and not a perfect solution

  • @Filipp_M
    @Filipp_M 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you give me advice about how I should do? I made a form of a planter from thin cardboard. I want to make it more rigid to avoid shape-changing when I will pour concrete into it. I made a 3d model of my planter in 3ds max before. How I should do constraints and loads in Fusion 360?

  • @SebaSera94
    @SebaSera94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a pity that shape optimization feature is not free...

  • @polycrystallinecandy
    @polycrystallinecandy ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please explain to me why that truss was offset to one side, instead of spanning the entire thickness of the structure? Shouldn't the solution be symmetric in that axis since the load was given to be straight downward?

  • @argentosebastian
    @argentosebastian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know about this feature until just now!! What is not really clear to me is why did you uncheck the UY axis in the 2nd constraint. Thanks

  • @hans-dieterjung4026
    @hans-dieterjung4026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this informativ video. My Question is, is there a way to get the Model in a sliser generate an infill generat an .slt, put it back to fusion and run a simulation

    • @wildin13
      @wildin13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting thought, there might be softwares out there. But I would say that the strength of a 3d print practically only come from 3 key elements, thickness/number of perimeters, orientation of the layers and the quality of the bond between layers.
      Even with an accurate STL of the sliced model only the thickness of the walls could be accounted for in a simulation on fusion. Simulations are all theoretical and used mostly to speed up human analysis. Meaning let the computer do calculations and then use humans to look and decide if results are appropriate or if a revision is needed. Humans still out think computers, machines are just quicker not better.

  • @RinksRides
    @RinksRides 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You may be able to shell and then add a "cap" - top layers, maybe join body, hopefully 360 leaves the inner cavity open. Then specify your material and try an FEA?

  • @Alluvian567
    @Alluvian567 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FEA simulation is going to be off more because of the weak z axis and layer bonds rather than the infill. Infill does not really weaken parts that much, not as much as they are weakened by poor layer bonding. Really nice video, thank you!

  • @insafbahnini928
    @insafbahnini928 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    a very very useful video! thank you so much. but I have a question about the FE analysis of the finished Piece.
    is there any possibility to simulate it with anisotropic material (like the 3D printing do)?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm quite sure that it's not possible in Fusion 360, but any other descend FEA software should allow that.

  • @forloop7713
    @forloop7713 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it possible to only optimise a part in 2d in this program because I want to make my part out of an aluminium sheet

  • @UUTechRU
    @UUTechRU 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Спасибо!

  • @KiR_3d
    @KiR_3d 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be cool if a slicer program could generate an "ideal 3dp mesh" to test on loads virtually!

  • @dennisrkb
    @dennisrkb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you at any point select the final material the part is gonna be made out of? Does it matter at all for this optimization? thx!

    • @siggyincr7447
      @siggyincr7447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it doesn't matter. The simulation assumes homogeneous tensile strength throughout the part and goes from there. This is also why these simulations can only get a reasonable approximation for 3D-printed parts, as they are shells with a small percentage of infill (not at all homogeneous).

  • @mikepennie
    @mikepennie 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you include the generated model stl on thingiverse? I love the organic look.

  • @Fundamental444
    @Fundamental444 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the tutorial. TO is the essential tool for AM. We are looking forward to see the next one.
    A couple of comments:
    - Following your design strategy: in order to keep the original dimmensions of the design you could Project the initial sketch to draw the arc of the holder.
    - Alternative way: Why you haven't convert the STL to solid and then correct/soften the desire areas?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My personal opinion is that "softening" optimized designs is a really bad practice in a lot of cases and especially in the, the redesign is pretty easy.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already more in the pipeline 😉

  • @sospedra0r
    @sospedra0r 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At which point the simulation takes into account the material? Maybe I missed it in the video. But I guess the reaction to 100 N it's not the same on a 10mm steel beam or a 10mm crystal bar.

  • @DingoAteMeBaby
    @DingoAteMeBaby 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is there no straightforward way to convert from optimized mesh to sketch?? Ive looked at solidworks optimization workflows too, and it requires manual sketching.

  • @CodeLeeCarter
    @CodeLeeCarter 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a pretty awesome tutorial, I sure would like to see a lot more tutorials in the future,... I can't even design a 30mm bed levelling knob in Fusion 360, yet, because I don't know where everything is, tools-wise. anyway, I came from the 3D Printing Nerds, Channel and loved what I saw and had to subscribe. Simple tutorials with-in fusion 360 when you have time, thank you.

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last time i worked with finite elements was helping somebody optimising some old code for calculating chemical penetration depth.
    3 mm grain size - that is ginormous XD I think we were working on something like 20 nm. of course that was not running on a normal home computer.

  • @AdityaMehendale
    @AdityaMehendale 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another nice tutorial! :) Thanks!!
    What screen-capture software do you use to make the video?

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just purchased Snagit yesterday and I'm 90% satisfied with it.

  • @jan-heinzwiers581
    @jan-heinzwiers581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hollow the part for the fillament space which doesnt contribute .And you can do the fea And do the shape op with a hollow part too 😁

  • @theeclecticengineer1860
    @theeclecticengineer1860 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I mirror the part to allow for the other side? Thank you for the great tutorial.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can mirror it on any slicer.

  • @CrazySD1993
    @CrazySD1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, looks like I won't get to try this as simulations will be scrapped for Fusion 360's hobby version. :'(
    You'll have to do this tutorial under Solidworks!

  • @amerdabbagh4592
    @amerdabbagh4592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hallo Stefan,
    Vielen Dank für das perfekt geklärte Video.
    Ist das möglich die Topologieoptimierungs-Ergebnisse im offline-Modus zu öffnen. Wie und in welchem Format sollte das gespeichert werden?
    Danke im Voraus.
    Amer

  • @gustavogrullon5822
    @gustavogrullon5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ese es el perfil optimizado para un punto en la horizontal que recibe la fuerza. La fuerza la recibe la barra, y la reparte entre dos elementos. Tal vez la forma sea un tetraedro.

  • @dand8282
    @dand8282 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You've got good videos and descriptions, well done. The one thing that drives me nuts is how slowly your intros wrap-up, the "I'm Stefen and welcome to CNC Kitchen!" part seems to take F-O-R-E-V-E-R. It was amusing the first video, but made me want to jump out the window (or just click away) by the third time I heard it. 2-3 seconds max, not 5. I know it seems trivial, but when you have quality editing and planning (which clearly you do) such rough edges stand out.

  • @1w5k
    @1w5k 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kann es sein das es nur in der Ultimate Version verfügbar ist?

  • @AngriestEwok
    @AngriestEwok 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got Fusion 360 but it's asking me to buy cloud credits to do this. Is that normal or am I missing something?

  • @TacDyne
    @TacDyne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you are watching this video in Sept. 2020, you know why to never rent software thanks to Autodesk once again fucking over the consumer.

  • @2DragonFreak
    @2DragonFreak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should use quads instead of triangles for the mesh. Triangles create artificial stiffness

    • @Simfuchsia
      @Simfuchsia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This depends on the selected element order and fourmalism.