This is absolute nonsense by the Wrap and I'm disappointed. Nunez hasn't had enough time this season? He was out only available striker for TWO MONTHS and he stank the place out, is everyone's memory that short?? Unbelievable.
If we are only buying players with a very high skill ceiling, whilst also not prepared to get into bidding wars or buy players who are already established top tier who will we buy?
Great question. Also apologies, maybe naive of me, but (referring to Neil’s point) could there not be players who have potential that Slot and LFC can develop into reaching and evolving that high skill technical ceiling? Time is never on a clubs side but that isn’t an excuse. Development if the transfer pool is how it is now could be a solution for depth. Feels like fsg is Ange Postecagloing transfers and contracts.
Neil saying the others are being too kind about Diaz at 9, then goes on to shower Darwizzy with praise, can't believe what I'm hearing. Darwin is just not good enough, time to finally accept it. People even tried to blame Klopp's system, saying Slot's more measured style can make him less of a pea-brained donkey and the opposite has happened. Move on ffs
So it has to be an elite player but not a bidding war n not too expensive….constantly contradicting criteria it’s always there as an excuse not to buy anyone- and sadly you n others regurgitate it ever window
Our fanbase is far far too patient with FSG we've been under spending massively for years. We could have had another couple of titles an European cups if they'd invested properly. They cant even keep on top of our best players' contracts ffs
Agree .. we've always been short, players leaving not being replaced in particular. Thiago, Matip, Adrian gone big saving in wages. Its been luck more than anything up to now with Gravenberch playing so well. Can only imagine what some of the earlier results would have looked like when Gomez stepped in to cover left full back as he was nearly sold. It seems a common theme wherby we sre unable to get the players we want Caceido, Lavia, Zubimendi. We are relying on VVD & Gravenberch not being injured in my opinion in terms of winning the title/ having a potential crisis.
@@PP-nq1gmAdrian? really stretching your point there. As it happens we bought Mamadashvilli We have 4 centre backs, how many do you want? Zubimendi was Thiago's replacement, we had a deal but he changed his mind Gravenberch has surprised us all Endo can do a job as cover untill Bajcetic is ready
@@seth1455 - (Adrian) my point was wages, big savings for the pot. You'd be a great mouth piece for the yes men. For me the reason we didn't win as many titles under Klopp was when we were in a position of strength we didn't maintain it or build from it. Endo? Are you not watching? Slot doesn't trust him. Bajcetic... seriously? When it comes to backing the managers at Liverpool, (although FSG are by far not the worst) we are mid table. They pushed the boat out once... to sign Nunez. That didn't work out. An injury to VVD or Gravenberch & we'll be at best 2nd or 3rd.
@PP-nq1gm exactly mate. They're constantly rolling the dice hoping for the best. Even when we get players in, they're usually bought for selling on for profit. We've just sat back and watched our two main rivals sign players we wanted. Our top target last summer, zubimendi is off to arsenal and mamoush who we've been heavily linked with is going to city and both of them are relatively cheap in todays market. Embarrassing
@@yemalad1. "exactly "nothing who have we got in with the intention of selling on for a profit? Yes we had an agreement for Zubimendi and he changed his mind We've never been in for Marmoush, you just read the bullshit media gossip and think it's it's embarrassing when we do don't buy him. That's embarrassing Another Timo Werner? We have six forwards not counting Danns, how many more should we buy?
Be careful, top reds might come for you for speaking the truth! A draw to Brentford on Saturday and it's only 2 points between us and Arsenal. We would've been 12 points ahead if we won against Man Utd on January 1st. 4 draws in our last 7 games. We're slowly falling apart.
@ Despressing but i’ve already accepted we’re bottling it. I actually was stupid enough to believe we were going to win it after Arsenal dropped points against Brighton. 5 clear with 2 games in hand. Not even we could fuck that up. But here we go again. Fully expect we’ll drop points this weekend tbh.
danns is the man ! nunez replacement we already have!,i really believe that he is the next big thing!i think we need to show some faith in the young up an coming talent like we did with fowler ,owen, gerrard ,mcmanaman!
Kerkez needs to come in now if we want to secure the league imo, he's an obvious replacement for robbo, who I love but has been down and at bare minimum needs relief, and makes us better currently with scope to grow in future. Club cannot sit on hands and hope all three contracts are signed, this year of uncertainty has been frustrating to say the least.
I kept a watching brief on him,what does that mean just watch PSG spend the dollar whilst we continue to sit on the fence means nothing,you may as well shut the window now in respect of Liverpool unless we make some sales?Opportunistically we should have moved for Marmoush and sold Nunez which sounds feasible given alleged bid earlier this week for Darwin,of course he would need to want the move also,alternatively could Danns do any worse given Nunez current form?
Opportunistic is just a disclaimer for not bringing in reinforcements. FSG have proven time & time again that they do not build on strength. They try to squeeze every ounce of effort from everyone to remain on the positive side off FFP. Klopp had clearly had enough even if he said the opposite.
I’m getting sick of you talking in backwards logic to explain why fsg do f all. I’m just one follower but I’m close to walking on you lot. You are getting almost as bad as red men
Fsg tightness at key point has prob cost us 3 major titles and damaged klopp legacy so much, city have put over 2 billion in to there club fsg in a decade 350 to buy club then only 100 million !! If they sell tomz they make 4 billion profit, so far slot and klopp made over 20 million profits in there first transfer windows!!
We are becoming a joke as far as doing transfers go and we have zero hope of replacing Van Dyke, Salah and Trent in the summer Most likely bring back Doak, Ramsey and pair Konate and Gomez as our first choice centre backs.
I reckon kava (not even going there) links are linked to Diaz going to barca in the summer seen as he's not signed an extension ,maybe it's a summer plan brought forward ironically like when Diaz came to Liverpool, remember the impact Diaz made when he first came,could be a game changer
Really nice to see an open and honest debate between to opposing views. Where I disagree with David is, is it really appropriate when you are chasing a title to be thinking about Quansahs growth.
This has aged like milk Kvaratskhelia was doing his goodbye video when this lot were talking about him. On Man City, there are 115 elephants in the room when it comes to their transfers. They're preparing for the worse and hoping for the best.
Liverpool have scored the most goals in thePL, and half of the show they talk about Nunez ... Not about left back, CB, CM to help out Gravenberch. Very strange. But of course not a word of criticism towards FSG.
Kovačić? He's already 30 and will be 31 by the end of this season. Man City will also have to replace him in a season or 2!! No way will he be a mainstay! Man City need a completely new midfield!
Yes lads, there aren't many players out there better than Tsimikas, Jones, Endo, Nunez... Do you not pay any attention to the players other clubs are signing?
Strongly agree with Neil, stop playing Diaz as striker, it's not working well. Even when it did, e.g. against Madrid, it only worked well in periods. Jota & Nunez are the strikers, Diaz & Gakpo LW.
On the hypothetical of would Trent go to another English team if it doesn’t work for him at Real, if Liverpool wouldn’t want him then yes, he still has $ to make
11:10 We are kind of doing that with Mamardashvili, he's nowhere near good enough with his feet for Slot's style of play, we'll have to coach him on that next season while hoping Ali doesn't get injured
How many times fo we hear when a goalkeeper is mentioned " not good enough playing out from the back " so where does that leave us with Marmadashvilli?
use the kids , they should know the system , the odd games they can make a differnece - Fergie did it all the time, dont have to be great , just unknow for oppostion to counter in the shrt term. we wont be making any moves , Josh nailed it
You can't take the Nunez money and then do nothing this month. Jota is unreliable in terms of injuries and no one really knows where Chiesa is at in terms of full fitness and if he's up to the challenge of the Prem yet. If you sold Nunez now and didn't bring someone in you are likely going to be left with Salah, Diaz and Gakpo in the very near future. On the flip side I think if you could count on Jota's fitness and Chiesa had a bigger sample size, I think you could take the punt and risk it and let him leave and sort it out in the summer.
Our Transfer plays out on podcasts and stops there (be it news or no news). While a cheating club "legitly" has just spent 180m inside 2 weeks...addressing their deficit in midfield/forward/defense. We between Jan 24 and Jan 25 (have presently 3 key players closer to the exit than a contract) and a lemon. lol
Massive gamble leaving the squad as is. All the warning signs are there of a potential collapse. Although I do think we will more limp over the line. Bottle this league title sad FSG just have to go
The day we get owners to match the fans energy, ambition and heart is the day we will rule the roost properly again. Until then we are relying on having a great manager, cheap hidden gem buys and luck of the draw when it comes to injuries. After this season regardless what we win i think i’ll stop watching us. I cant stand it any longer. Lost all interest and ive been a fan for around 25 years. Seen us in the worst of times and to see how close we’ve came to greatness only to fall short down to a lack of investment at crucial moments has left the most bitter sour taste towards the owners and people that run our club.
Nunez talk was genuinely laughable for £50m+ I’d drive him to any country he wants as for the who’s better chat give over I can roll off 20 in the pl alone
This is absolute nonsense by the Wrap and I'm disappointed. Nunez hasn't had enough time this season? He was out only available striker for TWO MONTHS and he stank the place out, is everyone's memory that short?? Unbelievable.
If we are only buying players with a very high skill ceiling, whilst also not prepared to get into bidding wars or buy players who are already established top tier who will we buy?
Great question. Also apologies, maybe naive of me, but (referring to Neil’s point) could there not be players who have potential that Slot and LFC can develop into reaching and evolving that high skill technical ceiling? Time is never on a clubs side but that isn’t an excuse. Development if the transfer pool is how it is now could be a solution for depth. Feels like fsg is Ange Postecagloing transfers and contracts.
@@M3_AMG Make ssense but I feel there is some urgency due to contract situation of three of our best players all walking out the door.
Not hate but more of an observation. Gutter is pointless in times like these, the journalists have been clear there will be no activity.
It is called The Gutter tbf.
It's always been about speculation
All the Gutter shows are pointless. Just day-dreaming and wishful-thinking.
don't watch the gutter for the transfer news it's about the talent snd the vibes of the show
Transfer news always does the most numbers regardless of if Liverpool are doing business or not
Neil saying the others are being too kind about Diaz at 9, then goes on to shower Darwizzy with praise, can't believe what I'm hearing. Darwin is just not good enough, time to finally accept it. People even tried to blame Klopp's system, saying Slot's more measured style can make him less of a pea-brained donkey and the opposite has happened. Move on ffs
Honestly that fully pissed me off
So it has to be an elite player but not a bidding war n not too expensive….constantly contradicting criteria
it’s always there as an excuse not to buy anyone- and sadly you n others regurgitate it ever window
Neil's right about one thing: Diaz up the middle isn't working anymore. Time to start real CF/STs, with Jota as the starter leading the line.
Our fanbase is far far too patient with FSG we've been under spending massively for years. We could have had another couple of titles an European cups if they'd invested properly. They cant even keep on top of our best players' contracts ffs
Agree .. we've always been short, players leaving not being replaced in particular. Thiago, Matip, Adrian gone big saving in wages. Its been luck more than anything up to now with Gravenberch playing so well. Can only imagine what some of the earlier results would have looked like when Gomez stepped in to cover left full back as he was nearly sold.
It seems a common theme wherby we sre unable to get the players we want Caceido, Lavia, Zubimendi. We are relying on VVD & Gravenberch not being injured in my opinion in terms of winning the title/ having a potential crisis.
@@PP-nq1gmAdrian? really stretching your point there.
As it happens we bought Mamadashvilli
We have 4 centre backs, how many do you want?
Zubimendi was Thiago's replacement, we had a deal but he changed his mind
Gravenberch has surprised us all
Endo can do a job as cover untill Bajcetic is ready
@@seth1455 - (Adrian) my point was wages, big savings for the pot. You'd be a great mouth piece for the yes men. For me the reason we didn't win as many titles under Klopp was when we were in a position of strength we didn't maintain it or build from it. Endo? Are you not watching? Slot doesn't trust him. Bajcetic... seriously? When it comes to backing the managers at Liverpool, (although FSG are by far not the worst) we are mid table. They pushed the boat out once... to sign Nunez. That didn't work out. An injury to VVD or Gravenberch & we'll be at best 2nd or 3rd.
@PP-nq1gm exactly mate. They're constantly rolling the dice hoping for the best. Even when we get players in, they're usually bought for selling on for profit. We've just sat back and watched our two main rivals sign players we wanted. Our top target last summer, zubimendi is off to arsenal and mamoush who we've been heavily linked with is going to city and both of them are relatively cheap in todays market. Embarrassing
@@yemalad1. "exactly "nothing
who have we got in with the intention of selling on for a profit?
Yes we had an agreement for Zubimendi and he changed his mind
We've never been in for Marmoush, you just read the bullshit media gossip and think it's it's embarrassing when we do don't buy him. That's embarrassing
Another Timo Werner?
We have six forwards not counting Danns, how many more should we buy?
Can we get a grip? It was paid journalism by the club. We arent signing him
Romano is a paid actor, idgaf about most things he says.
We aren’t signing anyone.
We’ll fall apart as usual. We’ll lose the title again thanks to the club suits.
Be careful, top reds might come for you for speaking the truth!
A draw to Brentford on Saturday and it's only 2 points between us and Arsenal.
We would've been 12 points ahead if we won against Man Utd on January 1st.
4 draws in our last 7 games.
We're slowly falling apart.
@ Despressing but i’ve already accepted we’re bottling it. I actually was stupid enough to believe we were going to win it after Arsenal dropped points against Brighton. 5 clear with 2 games in hand. Not even we could fuck that up. But here we go again. Fully expect we’ll drop points this weekend tbh.
danns is the man ! nunez replacement we already have!,i really believe that he is the next big thing!i think we need to show some faith in the young up an coming talent like we did with fowler ,owen, gerrard ,mcmanaman!
Out of any 'linked' player, Kerkez is the only one I could see Liverpool actually moving on. Up the mighty Reds.
Elephant in the room on the Napoli Winger being annoyed about being underpaid, *cough* Luis Diaz’*
Kerkez needs to come in now if we want to secure the league imo, he's an obvious replacement for robbo, who I love but has been down and at bare minimum needs relief, and makes us better currently with scope to grow in future. Club cannot sit on hands and hope all three contracts are signed, this year of uncertainty has been frustrating to say the least.
I kept a watching brief on him,what does that mean just watch PSG spend the dollar whilst we continue to sit on the fence means nothing,you may as well shut the window now in respect of Liverpool unless we make some sales?Opportunistically we should have moved for Marmoush and sold Nunez which sounds feasible given alleged bid earlier this week for Darwin,of course he would need to want the move also,alternatively could Danns do any worse given Nunez current form?
Opportunistic is just a disclaimer for not bringing in reinforcements. FSG have proven time & time again that they do not build on strength. They try to squeeze every ounce of effort from everyone to remain on the positive side off FFP. Klopp had clearly had enough even if he said the opposite.
@ Spot on 👌
I’m getting sick of you talking in backwards logic to explain why fsg do f all. I’m just one follower but I’m close to walking on you lot. You are getting almost as bad as red men
This is why I had to start my own channel because these guys are towing the company line all the way!
They share the same sponsers with the club. They are the unofficial 'official' fan channel of LFC now. I.e corporate shills 🫢
Yes they get inside access to play ball. Kopish is the best fan channel if you can withstand some of Driftys takes.
We haven’t moved for anyone and don’t expect us to..
We have done nothing buying wise in the transfer market except Chiesa who cannot get a game
Fsg tightness at key point has prob cost us 3 major titles and damaged klopp legacy so much, city have put over 2 billion in to there club fsg in a decade 350 to buy club then only 100 million !! If they sell tomz they make 4 billion profit, so far slot and klopp made over 20 million profits in there first transfer windows!!
Neils bombshell of City selling Haaland this summer was debunked in record time. Only the 9.5year deal hes just signed
We are becoming a joke as far as doing transfers go and we have zero hope of replacing Van Dyke, Salah and Trent in the summer
Most likely bring back Doak, Ramsey and pair Konate and Gomez as our first choice centre backs.
can't agree more
I reckon kava (not even going there) links are linked to Diaz going to barca in the summer seen as he's not signed an extension ,maybe it's a summer plan brought forward ironically like when Diaz came to Liverpool, remember the impact Diaz made when he first came,could be a game changer
Really nice to see an open and honest debate between to opposing views. Where I disagree with David is, is it really appropriate when you are chasing a title to be thinking about Quansahs growth.
Interesting conversation as always.
Many thanks
I admire the lads optimism on Trent possibly staying but there’s literally zero chance he stays. Time to give it up and prepare for life without him.
Selling Nunez strengthens the squad, he's that bad. It's like giving the opposition an extra defender, he can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
This has aged like milk Kvaratskhelia was doing his goodbye video when this lot were talking about him. On Man City, there are 115 elephants in the room when it comes to their transfers. They're preparing for the worse and hoping for the best.
Doing so little in the market you’ve done 20 minutes on Man City transfers 😂
it's laughable, absolute clowns
Liverpool have scored the most goals in thePL, and half of the show they talk about Nunez ... Not about left back, CB, CM to help out Gravenberch. Very strange. But of course not a word of criticism towards FSG.
Love the thumbnail Rob!
Love the guys on the show but let’s be honest it’s a bit pointless thinking we are signing anyone to help us win things. I just feel bad for slot tbh
John's not long left the room and Rob says "no second bests here" harsh man harsh 😂😂
cheers gents , cool calm and collected unlike many others..
Kovačić? He's already 30 and will be 31 by the end of this season. Man City will also have to replace him in a season or 2!! No way will he be a mainstay! Man City need a completely new midfield!
Yes lads, there aren't many players out there better than Tsimikas, Jones, Endo, Nunez...
Do you not pay any attention to the players other clubs are signing?
If Trent goes to RM he will be bigger flop than Tchouamine 😂 I had to lough when Josh mentioned Sterling as top player along with De Brouyn😂
Strongly agree with Neil, stop playing Diaz as striker, it's not working well. Even when it did, e.g. against Madrid, it only worked well in periods. Jota & Nunez are the strikers, Diaz & Gakpo LW.
Let's face it. Our owners are tight and we're not getting anyone. Hughs and Richards are employed as mere monitors!
Why are we talking about Nunez? We arent selling him in January. Jota is crocked again and we have plenty of games to play. Its a non discussion
She's gone buddy, shes met someone else, let her go. Move on, get out there, plenty more fish in the sea!
The delusion in this room is bonkers😂😂
De Ketelaere - great prospect
He lacks pace in my opinion and where would we play him?
On the hypothetical of would Trent go to another English team if it doesn’t work for him at Real, if Liverpool wouldn’t want him then yes, he still has $ to make
Since Elliott is up for sale and Brighton want him, offer them 60 M plus Elliott for Baleba.
11:10 We are kind of doing that with Mamardashvili, he's nowhere near good enough with his feet for Slot's style of play, we'll have to coach him on that next season while hoping Ali doesn't get injured
How many times fo we hear when a goalkeeper is mentioned " not good enough playing out from the back " so where does that leave us with Marmadashvilli?
Nunez Carroll OMG 😰😅
Josh " nunez , has no redeeming Quality..
he cant turn & beat a cb
he actually cant Do Fcuk all .
hes staggeringly Poor .
He has signed for PSG 100% apparently
use the kids , they should know the system , the odd games they can make a differnece - Fergie did it all the time, dont have to be great , just unknow for oppostion to counter in the shrt term. we wont be making any moves , Josh nailed it
Mo's eyebrows working overtime!
"the main boys..." the game's gone
You can't take the Nunez money and then do nothing this month. Jota is unreliable in terms of injuries and no one really knows where Chiesa is at in terms of full fitness and if he's up to the challenge of the Prem yet. If you sold Nunez now and didn't bring someone in you are likely going to be left with Salah, Diaz and Gakpo in the very near future. On the flip side I think if you could count on Jota's fitness and Chiesa had a bigger sample size, I think you could take the punt and risk it and let him leave and sort it out in the summer.
get the lad at Atalanta
Pretty difficult podcast to get through with monitoring FC!!
Start Nunez and he misses just one sitter and we will all literally explode
What is Richard hughes doing?!
Citeh 115 .... not even a mention !!!
Citeh are likely to lose Pep……..they are in a tough space……happy days!
Our Transfer plays out on podcasts and stops there (be it news or no news). While a cheating club "legitly" has just spent 180m inside 2 weeks...addressing their deficit in midfield/forward/defense. We between Jan 24 and Jan 25 (have presently 3 key players closer to the exit than a contract) and a lemon. lol
Massive gamble leaving the squad as is. All the warning signs are there of a potential collapse. Although I do think we will more limp over the line. Bottle this league title sad FSG just have to go
Marmoush? Marmoush! Can he do the fandango?
😂
The day we get owners to match the fans energy, ambition and heart is the day we will rule the roost properly again.
Until then we are relying on having a great manager, cheap hidden gem buys and luck of the draw when it comes to injuries.
After this season regardless what we win i think i’ll stop watching us. I cant stand it any longer. Lost all interest and ive been a fan for around 25 years. Seen us in the worst of times and to see how close we’ve came to greatness only to fall short down to a lack of investment at crucial moments has left the most bitter sour taste towards the owners and people that run our club.
so true
No trophy this season as usual
this is awful listening
Nunez talk was genuinely laughable for £50m+ I’d drive him to any country he wants as for the who’s better chat give over I can roll off 20 in the pl alone