History of Japanese TCGs #11: The First Yu-Gi-Oh! OCG Metagame, Riot, & Infinite Loop (1999-2000)

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  • In the late 1990s, Yu-Gi-Oh! was picking up steam in Japan as one of the best-selling TCGs of all time--while also facing rampant power creep, rapid bans, and a violent riot of more than 60 thousand people. This is the history of one of the most challenging times in the game's long life.

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  • @Cimoooooooo
    @Cimoooooooo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    And people complain about modern Yu-Gi-Oh! being degenerate. 😂 Well done!

    • @duelmastershideout278
      @duelmastershideout278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Share this video

    • @DanielFlrenss
      @DanielFlrenss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's still just about that rock, paper, scissors generator

    • @jameslucrative2054
      @jameslucrative2054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In an alternate timeline where there's no gimmicky new extra deck monster just the fusion deck...
      Dragoon and Mystic Mine are still a crutch
      Nekroz is still best ritual but drytron isn't far behind
      Dinosaurs are even better

    • @oscarramos5681
      @oscarramos5681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not going to be mean, but there are nostalgiatards in the Yu-Gi-Oh! fandom.

    • @damienthonk1506
      @damienthonk1506 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@jameslucrative2054I feel like Synchros and Xyz monsters have more than proved their metal as legitimate improvements to the game. The Nekroz of Brionac you just praised is based on Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier, a Synchro monster. Besides you'd be wrong anyway since Chaos MAX is so much more consistent than Brionac 🤷‍♂️

  • @TectonicImprov
    @TectonicImprov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    1999: we found an ftk with Cannon Soldier
    2019: we found an ftk with Cannon Soldier

    • @amandabankai2775
      @amandabankai2775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The more things change, the more they remain the same.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Almost like cannon soldier and it's brethren (shadow priestess of ohm, toon cannon soldier, etc.) Just shouldn't exist.

    • @diamonddudeygo
      @diamonddudeygo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@GeneralNickles Cannon soldier should absolutely exist. If Cannon Soldier becomes playable, Konami knows they've fucked up along the way and something needs to be done about it, quick. I like cards that are health indicators.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@diamonddudeygo except danger dark world FTK was legal for nearly a year before Konami finally did something about it.
      Konami doesn't care about the health of the game. And you can generally tell what the problems are without degenerate effects like cannon soldier.

    • @thefinalskarm1754
      @thefinalskarm1754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@diamonddudeygo I like enduring Solitaire too.
      That's why I'm sentencing you to eternal triple firewall FTK format forever, enjoy your stay.
      They're forbidden in the OCG for a very good reason.

  • @Neoboo297
    @Neoboo297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    This series just makes me realize how much of a surprise it is that any of the TCGs from this era would still be around today.

    • @vvv_vimeru668
      @vvv_vimeru668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Specially ygo since it's foundations are broken AF, sometimes i think the game is still going just cuss of nostalgia and not the competitive scene and all that

    • @TheShinyFeraligatr
      @TheShinyFeraligatr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@vvv_vimeru668 That's how it is for all 90s card games which are still going.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheShinyFeraligatr With the exception of Magic the Gathering. The designers of that game quickly acknowledged how busted the Power 9 was and the power level of that game had been steady ever since...

    • @TheShinyFeraligatr
      @TheShinyFeraligatr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@philithegamer8265 said no one who has actually played Magic for a lengthy period of time ever.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TheShinyFeraligatr You still play MTG after WOTC started pandering to SJWs? LULZ! There are hardly any cards that got powercrept from the metagame outside of creatures from early sets like Platinum Angel for instance.

  • @Call_Of_Cuchuco
    @Call_Of_Cuchuco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Woodstock ‘99: watch me be the messiest event of 1999.
    First Yugioh event ever in Tokyo: hold my Premium Pack you can never buy anywhere else again.

    • @ryanschrafel9576
      @ryanschrafel9576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The eerie coincidence is that these two events, both involving poor planning, searing heat and rioting, happened about a month apart! At least there was no sexual assault, looting or towering infernos at the Yu Gi Oh! event.

  • @rayraycontray
    @rayraycontray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hearing Hane-Hane be called "Hane Hane" blew my mind I always heard it as "Hayne Hayne" but being Japanese that makes so much more sense!

  • @gpmradirgy8953
    @gpmradirgy8953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Pre-errata Sangan and Witch are one of the funniest things I have ever seen, and they were at 3?
    I love yugioh history because many people don't realise just how broken the game has always been. We didn't notice it as kids because of card inaccessibility and we didn't notice it as adults due to power creep and new mechanics. The story of yugioh is the story of continuously fixing and balancing what is easily the most wild west mainstream TCG out there. It's part of the furniture at this point.
    The OCG has never had as big a cost or accessibility issue and it shows. The young target audience and popularity of the manga straight up saved the game from completely becoming solved and killing itself.
    I did buy all the official OCG encyclopedia's while I was studying in Tokyo but had to leave them behind when returning home due to suitcase weight. It's a shame really as they're just full of info like what you've included in these videos. I'm really sad I never got the chance to properly sit down and read them.
    I'm really interested to see a video on Duel Masters eventually as that was still being widely played and sold when I was living there (2016) which is fascinating as I almost forgot it existed.

    • @IamGrimalkin
      @IamGrimalkin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Well, part of the reason is pre-errata Witch and Sangan never existed in the TCG.

    • @Shadowrulzalways
      @Shadowrulzalways 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean young teen audience. Shonen manga and anime mainly target young teenage boys 12-18.
      Look it up. There are many English and Japanese sources confirming this. Eveb Hiroyuki Nakano editor-in-chief to Weekly Shonen Jump said it himself in many interviews.
      Even the Yugioh OCG packs from 1999-now all say “対象年齢12才以上”
      (Translation: “Target age 12 years and older”)
      Which implies it’s for young teens or older.
      The OCG was never for anyone under 12 as Konami wouldn’t have labeled the game for that target age group if that weren’t the case.

  • @1Raroy
    @1Raroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    This is nuts. The only way that power creep didn't destroy the game was because yu-gi-oh was almost entirely "school yard" where most players did not have access to the most powerful cards.

    • @randomprofile5853
      @randomprofile5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well nowadays power creep is pretty much as it's max, it's not really power creeping anymore.

    • @1Raroy
      @1Raroy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@randomprofile5853 The increments were much slower after invasion of chaos. This is like, everyone needs this new card that wins the game every month.

    • @randomprofile5853
      @randomprofile5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1Raroy Not really cards are usually very simmilar Dark Ruler No More & Forbidden Droplets those 2 come to mind. Another thing is that meta changers always existed.

    • @lucario9054
      @lucario9054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@randomprofile5853 yeah but before those cards you didn't really have a good way to deal with established boards of multiple negations, so they are power creep lol

    • @randomprofile5853
      @randomprofile5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucario9054 What?.

  • @Padre648
    @Padre648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I didn't expect the next part so quickly.

    • @lost-worlds
      @lost-worlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      If I had my way, none of them would go up until all of them were done...but that's no way to run a TH-cam channel.

  • @duane_313
    @duane_313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The story and footage about the Tokyo dome tournament...CRAZY! And i thought the anime was over exaggerating when they would show stadiums full of people watching duels. OMG!!! This was real?!?

  • @jeandehuit5385
    @jeandehuit5385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It probably doesn't bear mentioning, but you've created a very wonderful portrait of 90s-era Japanese card games with this series! I especially appreciate the 'interdisciplinary' approach you've taken (if that's even the right word lol). What I mean is that most series like this would focus on *only* Pokemon or *only* Magic, etc.
    Putting each TCG in the context of what the others were doing at the time (and what had come before) is a novel approach for TH-cam and I wish you success in any future installments (if any). Thank you!

  • @InvaderWeezle
    @InvaderWeezle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fun fact about Graceful Charity: its OCG release actually predates its first appearance in the manga. It wouldn't appear in the manga until over two months after Booster 4 came out.

  • @duane_313
    @duane_313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A holy elf/doll blue eyes and elf's light deck sounds pretty

  • @Baron_of_Wastes
    @Baron_of_Wastes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Another great video. I've seen more than a few articles and videos on the history of the U.S. version of Yu-Gi-Oh, but comparatively far less about the JP side of things. This is the first I'm ever hearing of that riot, really interesting stuff. Nice to see that your channel is still going strong.

  • @fredca7178
    @fredca7178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please, continue this series. This is AMAZING. This might be the 3rd/4th time I watch this pearl, I'm not sure, it's so good I stoped counting.

    • @duane_313
      @duane_313 ปีที่แล้ว

      same. fantastic research and looks and sounds great. QUALITY!

  • @jiabryant533
    @jiabryant533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I feel like am being spoiled lol. Waiting month's for another part and get two episode back to back!

  • @torturelounge
    @torturelounge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This deserves so much more attention. These videos are so well edited, and have so much information about the ocg that I would imagine most tcg players don’t even know about. I hope you are able to make more of these.

  • @yawg691
    @yawg691 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Long time Magic player here who has never played Yugioh. Comparing the effects to the early iconics from Magic made this so easy to understand so thank you!

  • @gon8912
    @gon8912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    40:20 unbelievable that burn and FTKs were a thing since the first few years of Yu-gi-oh but it makes sense when looking at everything around it at the time. Legit insane that the only thing that prevent the game to be extremely more toxic was the difficulty in getting the cards.

  • @ceresgc
    @ceresgc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Good to know yugioh had the powercreep, ftks, loops and solitary play it is know for from it's very beginning. It's almost like it is a consequence of its core design

    • @Kampfender_Krieger
      @Kampfender_Krieger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You know the saying: If everything is broken, nothing is.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not a consequence of the game design.
      It's a consequence of card design.
      "Steal an opponents unit for a turn" is always going to be a broken effect no matter what the underlying game mechanics are. (Unless units are just inconsequential, but I don't know of any TCG where such a thing is true.)
      Releasing cards with broken effects is never a good idea. It's not they they didn't think through the basic mechanics, it's that they didn't think through the card effects. Konami has never been great at thoroughly play testing cards before releasing them. Look at breakers of shadow format in early 2016 for a perfect example of that.

    • @ceresgc
      @ceresgc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@GeneralNickles maybe. But the lack of a resource or cost system makes Yu-Gi-Oh extremely hard to balance. Just look at how long it took them to create balanced versions of pot of greed that basically figure out resource-like costs. Or how easy it is for Yu-Gi-Oh to degenerate into ftks, uninteractive combos and broken metas. The underlying mechanics are extremely breakable, there aren't just enough limiters. The moment a card or combination are too over the curve, they can go crazy and shatter the game.

    • @pascalsimioli6777
      @pascalsimioli6777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeneralNickles I'm not aware of any mtg banned card that does that because mtg has mana, so it's game problem, not cards design.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pascalsimioli6777 no, it's card design.
      Just because no cards that steal monsters aren't banned in MTG doesn't mean the game is any better.
      The mana cost is the balance. Any broken effect can be balanced with a steep enough cost. We have that in yugioh too. Brain control is a good example. It steals a monster, but it costs 800 life, it has to be a monster that can be normal summoned, and it gives it back in the end phase. Brain control is perfectly balanced with those restrictions.
      Contrast that with Snatch Steal, which has no cost, no restrictions, and it's an equip spell (which makes it highly searchable), and you have a card that absolutely needs to stay banned.
      The game mechanics have very little to do with how broken a card is, or how fast power creep happens. That's all down to card design.

  • @akuda226
    @akuda226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "Who assaults someone for a single pack of cards"
    2021: people hoarding and buying out Pokemon cards and also assaulting people.

  • @herosguildgames
    @herosguildgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm not surprised that Konami has never had a good grasp of how to handle distribution of YGO even back in the day.

  • @verylongman5447
    @verylongman5447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just watched both yugioh videos and i must say these videos are really well made, good job.

  • @pedrorocha3674
    @pedrorocha3674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So yeah... "I go first, therefore I won" always existed in YGO.

  • @Dryon1196
    @Dryon1196 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an incredible series. I'm amazed by the work, details and explanations that went through, as a new TCG player these videos helped me get a proper context to all of it when I was merely being curious. It was so interesting ! And I feel it's important to somehow actually save this history and these stories. Thank you for this.

  • @Xanthan4711
    @Xanthan4711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First person I've seen on TH-cam to pronounce Hane Hane correctly.

  • @songanon
    @songanon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    konami has been knowingly power creeping cards to hype people, then banning/limiting them after a format so the game would not be broken, SINCE ITS INCEPTION. Wow

    • @Strato_Casterrr9898
      @Strato_Casterrr9898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, and Yugiboomers keep complaining about how Powercreep ruined yugioh, when it had always been there.

    • @jacobmonks3722
      @jacobmonks3722 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Strato_Casterrr9898 I think it's just that for a lot of people we hit a breaking point. In 2015, it was still fairly common for each player to have 3 or 4 or more turns in a game because trap cards were adequate at protecting you. Now in 2022, nobody even plays traps because when going first they can't progress your gamestate and going second they are useless because your opponent has already set up a field of negates. When an entire 3rd of tha game's core mechanics is borderline unplayable, something isn't right.
      I know he also mentioned Trap cards being worthless back in early OCG but to be fair, there were literally 2 decent Trap effects in the entire game. Card effects on anything that wasn't a Magic card were fairly mediocre until 2003.

    • @Strato_Casterrr9898
      @Strato_Casterrr9898 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobmonks3722 I mean, trap stun and floodgates still roam around, so I don't get what you mean. Mystic Mine is also there to make the game last longer than 2 turns. That's what you wnated right? Then why do people hate that card?

    • @jacobmonks3722
      @jacobmonks3722 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Strato_Casterrr9898 There's a fundamental difference between what stun decks are doing compared to just playing Traps in a standard deck. Cards like Mirror Force, Safe Zone, Fire Lake, Trap Hole cards, etc. are, for the most part, reactionary. They are meant to be used when you need them. That's why they are called "Traps": your opponent has to fall into it. Mystic Mine and Floodgates aren't reactive cards, they are preventative cards. Rather than encouraging thoughtful play and considering the options the opponent might have, they force the game into a state that is inherently uninteractive because they do not need to be played in a strategic way to be effective. There were early examples of course, like Royal Decree and Skill Drain, but they were generally easier to play around because more different types of cards were played back then. Card design as of late has been largely homogenized to revolve around Monster effects and negation, and monsters now are often given 2, 3, or even 4 effects to "make up" for the lack of good Spells/Traps to fall back on.
      I'll give you this, MM and floodgates do certainly make games longer. But it's not the good kind of long.

    • @Strato_Casterrr9898
      @Strato_Casterrr9898 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobmonks3722 I think the issue here lies with what cards you use when you are up against an MM non-FTK/ITK deck. A 2005 meta deck would obliterate an MM player. MM provides the opportunity to use Trap cards as actual Trap Cards, to go back to playing in caveman YGO. But YGO players don't see that, they only ever see the META.
      I swear, why don't we change our mind sets . Instead of playing like we normally play, why don't we olay like the old days, like the pre-Cyber Dragon days? I think this is the reason why Konami insists on not banning MM, they want okayers to go back to the old ways of playing.

  • @fnco
    @fnco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Very high quality stuff here. I don't even know how you were able to research all of this specific information about these eras of play. Your deserve more views!

  • @cashnelson2306
    @cashnelson2306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Instantly subbed just because you're the only channel that can pronounce Hane-Hane jfc

  • @crimsonspirit3036
    @crimsonspirit3036 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I really hope the algorythm picks you up soon. Content of this type is scarce and the only competition I think you have in quality is the History of the Yugioh Meta video series. Well, series only if another comes out.

  • @michaelmon1337
    @michaelmon1337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do another part. This may be my fav series on yt at the moment.

  • @lcrow8675
    @lcrow8675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    looking forward to the duel masters episodes like nothing else

  • @XCrocer
    @XCrocer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You are on Netflix level! Man, please drop the whole series now!!! It‘s extremely great. Well done!

  • @TheShinyFeraligatr
    @TheShinyFeraligatr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'd like to see Ol Konami wiggle their way out of THIS jam!
    *Konami wiggles their way out of the jam easily*
    Ah! Well. Nevertheless,

  • @anavaeru
    @anavaeru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved this as well as the Pokemon series. Grew up with these as a kid and loved to hear about the series I grew up with from a different perspective.

  • @brownandbloom
    @brownandbloom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The early years of YGO were so fascinating.

  • @KnightZer07
    @KnightZer07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i literally discovered this channel yesterday and love it, thanks for make this kind of content

  • @xibalbalon8668
    @xibalbalon8668 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such a good series. Hope there's a continuation that touches on the Japanese Digimon tcg one day

  • @thomassankarasspirit4293
    @thomassankarasspirit4293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Word in the street is that people want a part 12

  • @justinmadrid8712
    @justinmadrid8712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    When people are willing to physically fight each other over a game.... that's when you know the game is good.

    • @philithegamer8265
      @philithegamer8265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And over this th-cam.com/video/41b-ZL5vSmc/w-d-xo.html

    • @MiguelMartinon
      @MiguelMartinon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

    • @idkidc7513
      @idkidc7513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not so different of the idiots fighting for TVs every black friday tho

    • @justinmadrid8712
      @justinmadrid8712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@idkidc7513 True. That's how you knew TVs were a good product.

  • @nozomiyumehara7462
    @nozomiyumehara7462 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please continue this series 🙏

  • @kingpin6173
    @kingpin6173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fascinating video. I had no idea we Yu-Gi-Oh players had such a bad reputation among other TCGs, but otherwise super cool to the games history from OCG perspective.

    • @amandabankai2775
      @amandabankai2775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which is why I love this community... I still remember how we stole 2,000+ cards in one day. Such horrible yet fun times.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yu-Gi-Oh doesn't so much have a bad reputation, or at least no worse than other TCGs.
      It's TCG players in general that have a bad reputation. Be that magic, pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, or whatever else. Convention centers hate all of them.

    • @damienthonk1506
      @damienthonk1506 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@GeneralNicklesyes but among the club of TCG players, Yu-Gi-Oh players have a bad rep comparatively. You don't really hear about Pokémon or Vanguard players being so sweaty that their respective companies have to implement hygiene requirements in their official rules.
      Then again you don't hear much about Vanguard these days in general :/

  • @Badbufon
    @Badbufon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it's so cool to see the first TCG set on perspective

  • @destructiveoverlord2663
    @destructiveoverlord2663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are incredibly and amazing insight for non-Japanese players. I really hope you continue this series!

  • @MegamanX195
    @MegamanX195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please continue this series! Insanely well done videos

  • @fernandobanda5734
    @fernandobanda5734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing videos. I just binge watched the entire thing.

  • @justafellagaming
    @justafellagaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are very talented. Just a great video. High quality old product pictures, great descriptions. An overall really fun and entertaining experience!

  • @superilikeeggsyo
    @superilikeeggsyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A locals near my house had people literally stab each other over a cash tournament lol.

  • @flochforster88
    @flochforster88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are so entertaining and informative, great videos

  • @wassahap
    @wassahap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really was hoping there was another video to follow this one. damn.

  • @Zoomer3989
    @Zoomer3989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    excellent series covering YGO, and about to watch the Pokemon episodes. any chance of continuing the series?

  • @onparalelkenarag
    @onparalelkenarag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    at 44:43 when talking about booster 7 you could've included the reason for player killer's cards' stats as an anecdote cause i find it hilarious that konami chose to print them that way while their field and equip spells aren't as good as they were in the games. great video nonetheless.

  • @rayciannello2268
    @rayciannello2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this series. Thanks for all the hard work

  • @MatDurrant777
    @MatDurrant777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope this series continues, love learning about old Japanese yugioh :)

  • @thefinalskarm1754
    @thefinalskarm1754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Honey why are you in the hospital?"
    "I got beat up over a childrens card game"
    Hey i didn't know they referenced their event with Yugi's grandfather what nice attention to detail.
    How the fuck did this series survive after that holy shit.

    • @damienthonk1506
      @damienthonk1506 ปีที่แล้ว

      The same reason people continue playing sports regardless of the amounts of riots those cause.

  • @lokiswager
    @lokiswager 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is insanely good. I found this through Farfa's reaction to it, and I absolutely love it. This definitely deserves more views, and I will be sharing this to all my YGO discord servers and friends lol. Your writing is incredible, and I was never bored for even a second.

  • @SSJSonikku
    @SSJSonikku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love these History of Japanese TCG videos. Keep up the good work! I hope that along with a couple more Yugioh ones, that you do a HoJTCG video for Duel Masters and others.

    • @lost-worlds
      @lost-worlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The next Yu-Gi-Oh! video will be the last one, followed by Digimon Hyper Colosseum and Duel Masters.

    • @SSJSonikku
      @SSJSonikku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lost-worlds That sounds good. These videos for YGO have given lots of insight to the behind of the card game that I never knew before. Digimon Hyper Colosseum and Duel Masters next? Oh boy, that is great!

  • @Faraday.K
    @Faraday.K 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outstanding work, man.

  • @AlphaSquadZero
    @AlphaSquadZero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The riots have some degrees of being understandable, as you said they were waiting for hours on end in 90 degree heat. People were going to be upset no matter what product it was that they were selling. The following violent events, maybe not so much.
    From their Extra Deck? I think you mean Fusion Deck good sir 8^)

  • @Caernunnos
    @Caernunnos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is this channel not at 100 k subs already ? Keep up the good work my man, you'll hit the algorithm soon

  • @HeyitsCamden
    @HeyitsCamden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible video, dude. I think you're gonna have a lot of viewers coming your way soon.

  • @itsgaimtoduel695
    @itsgaimtoduel695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "who assaults someone over a single pack of cards?"
    2020/2021 enters the stage: "You called?"

    • @randomprofile5853
      @randomprofile5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Electronics too PlayStations,phones various in demand things.

  • @nouvellevague29
    @nouvellevague29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Thank you tahnk you so much for making this. While I dont play yugioh these days I was always curious about things were back when the OCG started...and man, what a rough start.
    Not rough in the sense of not gathering enough playerbase, but the opposite of that. Its quite crazy to consider legendary broken cards like Feather Duster and Crush Card Virus started as videogame promo cards, and all the silly loops.
    Also the damn power creep, like christ. Will you continue making videos about the ocg's metagame history? Ending right before Series 2 is a huge tease!

    • @lost-worlds
      @lost-worlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The next video in this series will be the final episode of the YGO arc, but it covers a broader span of time. After that we'll be progressing to talk about what Bandai did in response to losing the YGO IP--making their first Digimon card game. Then when that wraps up it'll be Duel Masters' turn.

  • @abyss9316
    @abyss9316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the ominous end of the video I can see it now Yu-Gi-Oh pachinko machine

  • @Zanji1234
    @Zanji1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    it's incredible to see how money focused Konami was. I mean including ONE part of exodia in a set... another in another set and TWO parts in a GUIDE BOOK ... and people keep complaining that Konami NOW only wants to make money xD
    But it's interesting to see how early Crush Card Virus was available in Japan, where we got it first as a Shonen Jump winner Promo for several month which skyrocket the price and every winning deck at that time had one, THEN reprinting it as a common in a pure reprint set AND OF COURSE put it on the banned list then xD
    Also the toxity of YGO players startet in my area around... 3 years into the game i think. We started doing tournaments when Spell Ruler came out and had a BUNCH of kids and some teens (kids with random cards and no rule understanding and teens with good decks) and everything was fine and good. The problem arised (at least in my area) when Upperdeck took over. See during that time in Germany only German cards where allowed at tournaments and we where several sets behind. At the time Invasion of Chaos came out or was already out we had Labyrinth of Nightmare. So there where some LGS which held tournaments with english cards in larger cities but official tournaments could only be made with German cards. So Upperdeck took over i guess 2 month before the German nationals (again: we had LON - US had IOC) so suddenly we got a BUNCH of new players from larger cities around our area with Chaos Decks, Last Turn OTK and stuff... and we basically had beatdowns with Gemini Elfs, Mechanical Chasers and every other 1800 Atk beaters. We had a nationals invite tournament and it was good and fun... but a few month later we first had the isues of kids telling us that cards got stolen from other players (which we didn't know since they where not from our area, i mean we where 20 or so players we knew each other by name). And this happend on a regular basis. I myself got my deck ripped at a side event on a Pharao-Tour in Germany (it was a Survival Tournament where you played the whole side event with 8000 lp and the lp count at the end of the game was taken over to the next) i build a wanky life point upkeeping fairy deck, not worth much but it got stolen from the desk while i just turned around to search my bag for my bottle of water.

  • @poopoo7107
    @poopoo7107 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    bro we need some more of this yugioh content, this is the nuts

  • @eliascsjunior
    @eliascsjunior ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game has always been broken, unbalanced, expensive, confusing and oppresive since day one. This is crazy!
    Still, somehow, the most addictive of them all

  • @genwunnergreen2100
    @genwunnergreen2100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never wanna hear OG players complain again about being able to fill your board via pendulum/chain summoning when Ultimate Offering existed in the original meta. 😂

  • @U1TR4F0RCE
    @U1TR4F0RCE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man the first version of last will seems even more insane then the TCG effect when the card was banned.

  • @NeroVingian40
    @NeroVingian40 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine having to errata your cards in the first year your card game was released.

  • @PrinciaInk
    @PrinciaInk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vol 1 to 7 was best time in yugioh

  • @chozo914
    @chozo914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phenomenal can't wait for da next one

  • @yugiohmemoryarc
    @yugiohmemoryarc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed ;) glad others are appreciating the history

  • @markycupko
    @markycupko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fantastic video, really enjoyed it :-)

  • @cantrip7
    @cantrip7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHOO! Love the hell outta this series. Thank you.

  • @Warficus
    @Warficus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shoutouts to farfa for showing this great channle on stream love your work

  • @faithfightertv5109
    @faithfightertv5109 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when playing Yu-Gi-Oh,
    All players use spirit reaper, man-eater bug and hane-hane, no Mystical space typhoon that time so De-spell and remove trap and trap master is common in deck,
    Also a common combo witch of the black forest add summoned skull,
    pot of greed or swords of revealing light + magician of faith
    But both of Those card turns band after a year ago, jinzo is super OP too so snatch steal i reserve it from my hand for my opponent boss, deck destruction virus is so OP and ultimate offering but it's errata now. Nice video love it.✌🏻😅

  • @ShinyHuntingTCG
    @ShinyHuntingTCG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Just getting into collecting vintage ocg!

  • @maskofthedragon
    @maskofthedragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People prove their impeccable taste by throwing hands for Frog the Jam!

  • @superilikeeggsyo
    @superilikeeggsyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Side-Note: Nice references to the Magic the Gathering Manga and the one Digimon Movie lol.

  • @kingsora1757
    @kingsora1757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Farfa watched this and now I'm hooked

  • @legiaanh4828
    @legiaanh4828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ya know, I heard a lot of TCG said that the only reason why Exodia is still limited is because of lore reason since it wouldn't be that good in today Yu-gi-oh if it was at 3.
    After this video though, I feel like Konami just have PTSD.

    • @diamonddudeygo
      @diamonddudeygo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah, it legit wouldn't be that good. Exodia sucks. Graceful, Pot and the pre-errata searchers were the fucked up cards here, same with pre-errata last will.

  • @peachcloverlauper
    @peachcloverlauper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Maniax, I just found out that there was a Japan exclusive Donkey Kong TCG, and I'd really like to hear about it. Also, I'd like to know more about other Japanese TCGs like Sailor Moon even though that one got a US release. It seems like you are the one person who has the interest and language to research these things. Would you please?

  • @timdoe8895
    @timdoe8895 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Phenomenal video once again really like this style of video

  • @evanbanjo
    @evanbanjo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t wait for the next part!

  • @TheRiderofBlood
    @TheRiderofBlood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quality vid, thanks for taking the time to make it

  • @Rapatto
    @Rapatto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This meta game seems like it evolved a lot differently compared to the TCG, which is interesting.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, the early TCG formats shook out the exact same way, because they had the exact same cards.
      It just happened a lot faster.
      All of this took over 2 years in the OCG, and nearly all of it happened over the course of like 7 months in the TCG.

    • @DroppedMyMarbles
      @DroppedMyMarbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeneralNickles It took TCG players WAY longer to warm up to Solemn Judgement.

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DroppedMyMarbles and your point is?

    • @ohnoo4468
      @ohnoo4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeneralNickles no we didn’t? We didn’t get many good cards for years after the OCG did.
      Also there were already established rules beside no more than 3 of a card, when the game came to the west. So I would guess that’s his point

  • @TetrixJ
    @TetrixJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want the next part so bad

  • @darkking4979
    @darkking4979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll be subscribing for more content like this glad I found it :)

  • @MACPCOSX7
    @MACPCOSX7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make more of these!!!!

  • @muhammadariffortisimmo8458
    @muhammadariffortisimmo8458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this content, waiting for the next

  • @TheKotaCan
    @TheKotaCan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A SECOND VIDEO,
    WE LIVE IN THE BEST TIMELINE!

  • @moji96
    @moji96 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're right. Friendships have been ruined over that cardboard. We would steal from eachother and fight over cards all the time in school.

  • @TheHoodedGravy
    @TheHoodedGravy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Underrated video

  • @starduelist2004
    @starduelist2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I finally know why the cards look like that in the anime I always thought about that

  • @TylerTheDestroyer97
    @TylerTheDestroyer97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly this showing that Konami's always been at-best mediocre (if not often actively malicious) at handling Yugioh AND that the game was originally built off the GB game rules explains a *lot* about why it plays the way it does and why its so prone to the sort of ricketiness it has even now. The game was never meant to be played physically- almost all these ruling problems and loops are very clearly things a computer can immediately toss out a hard ruling for.
    Fascinating stuff.

  • @EpicEverz
    @EpicEverz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    38:26 You're misusing the term "infinite loop" here. These are loops, but they are finite because you'll eventually win the game or run out of cards to continue the loop. An infinite loop would be something like Gearfried the Iron Knight plus Butterfly Dagger Elma. Or even more accurately, a loop of effects that automatically trigger each other with no exit condition (don't know of any Yu-Gi-Oh examples, but they probably exist).
    In programming, an "infinite loop" is a loop that never ends, and has to be ended manually by a human resetting the program, or the server timing out.

    • @lost-worlds
      @lost-worlds  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I call it an infinite loop because Japanese players call it an infinite loop. If it repeats until the game is won, for functional purposes it is infinite.

    • @EpicEverz
      @EpicEverz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lost-worlds Fair enough, I suppose. I guess I kinda see where they're coming from, but I still think the term is incorrect.
      Thanks for making the video, by the way. These are very interesting.

    • @IamGrimalkin
      @IamGrimalkin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Infinite loops (actual ones) in yugioh used to be relevant because performing an action that causes an infinite loop was illegal.
      People occasionally played a deck which used Pole Position to set up a lock where the opponent couldn't place a card on the field without without generating an infinite loop, so they couldn't play any cards.
      However, Konami changed the rules so Pole Position would go to the graveyard instead.

  • @Shadowrulzalways
    @Shadowrulzalways หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are aware the target demographic of the OCG is 12 and up. Which by Japan’s standards is considered an early teen demographic. And I’ve already mentioned this in your previous video, which I’ve corrected your poor information on. Again, all OCG packs say;
    “対象年齢12才以上”
    (Translation: “Target age 12 years and older”)
    And they still do to this day. Even back in 1999.
    Just because the game was popular with small kids, doesn’t mean it was targeted towards them. I mean, MTG had the same situation when it first came out. But that didn’t change what the main target player base was.
    Konami wouldn’t have labeled the game’s target age being 12 and UP, if that weren’t the case. Shonen manga and anime primarily target early to late teen boys between 12 and 18. And Yugioh was meant to capitalize on that target audience of the series.
    MTG’s main target player demographic are early teens as the game is 13 and up here but 12 and up in Japan. And junior high school (middle school) students in Japan are between 12 and 15 years of age.
    Plus official OCG tournaments are age restricted as they have brackets;
    Lowest one is Challenge. Which only allows junior high school students to compete.
    Middle is regular. Which only allows high school students.
    Expert is the highest and is basically the adult bracket.
    I know that it shouldn’t matter how old you are as long as you enjoy the game that’s all that matters. But I feel like you assume that Konami was intentionally targeting small kids when that was completely not true based on the facts available. Rush Duels is Konami’s only Yugioh product solely intended for children.

  • @EvilLordCanas
    @EvilLordCanas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    47:37 Now we finally now why some traps were depicted as magic spells in the show back in the day, it was just to evade issues related to US advertisement laws.

  • @Reluxthelegend
    @Reluxthelegend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will there be another episode? These are really informative.

  • @darkwyngraym
    @darkwyngraym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only person I've ever heard pronounce hane-hane correctly.

    • @lost-worlds
      @lost-worlds  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When I was a dumb kid playing Dark Duel Stories the name was cut off in the menus, so I was not only pronouncing Hane-Hane wrong, I was pronouncing it Hayn-Han. Double wrong.

    • @darkwyngraym
      @darkwyngraym 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lost-worlds ill admit i also thought it was hane hane back in the day until i heard joey say it in the english duel masters guide. i think ive heard it in the japanese one as well since i have the VHS that came with the starter box OCG. of all people and its joey pronouncing things right xD.