@3:02 for an end game setup, in ptr, I was messing around with Dragonscale. You can get some pretty solid hydra damage with a ton of +all skills, a lvl 25 conviction, and lvl 12 lower resist from Frenzy Plague Merc. This allows you to mix in the Hydra's while you're spamming FoH, and you can begin to clear "animal" class monsters much more efficiently. And with the "-207% Enemy Resistances" you break pretty much every immunity in the game and almost guarantee max dmg for Hydras and FoH's lightning dmg. At times it can still be useful to slap all 6 hydras down while fighting demons and undead, especially before a boss/baal waves, the damage they provide can help to speed things up.
@@trnovsky33 well it's easier to play around not having enough mana instead of not having enough life, especially with external mana sources like Insight or the good ole mana pot, or late game buffs like CTA.
The FOH changes are SO good, combined with holy bolts now hurting demons too. It is still balanced, since you will be restricted to single target damage on any non-demon or undead, particularly Ancients, Izual, and most of act 2 I would love to see bliz add charged bolts to lightning storm, keeping the low frequency of hits so that it doesn't become a stand-still-doing-nothing build :)
@atombrain111 Because if not, we'd end up with brainless gameplay where anything on the screen instantly dies. Which is why Holy Fire was adjusted twice during PTR.
Just started watching these lately. Pretty funny and at the same time informative. Played D2 religiously back in the day. Just started playing D2R and following all your Sorc, Pally, Necro and Barb runs. Currently making a FoH/Tesla Pally.
1:23:05 that hitbox is due to having FOH on your left click... it's super annoying. It will make you cast FOH on mobs instead of walking to a location too.
Tower level 3 is alvl40 so the crystal sword you got would have rolled 4 sockets from larzuk. The item level for a four socketed CS needs to be in the range of 26 to 40
Yanno... I have loved FoH since before LoD was released. It is nice to see it will be powerful but I'm almost bitter that now almost every Pally rolled is gonna be my guy. As soon as I saw the changes to Holy Bolt and FoH, I made one on the PTR to test it. Pretty excited for 2.4, ngl.
I'm still a bit salty about the paladin getting another really cool build. And that my favourite necro build has to invest like 100 points in bone spear but still does less damage and has much higher mana costs and cannot heal. Unfair
@@tureliondurr Your fav necro build isn't weak as a kitten against Animal type creatures which make up a solid third or more of monsters, but I don't disagree. Pallys are overtuned. TBF, corpse explosion/amp/decrep is absurdly strong so it isn't like Necros have nothing going for them. FoH specifically has been basically useless since d2 launched (except in PvP). Regardless of the other absurdly strong Pally builds, I am glad to see it will be playable.
You can do all that with hammerdin too but you are right definitely going to be my starter too. It looks very fun to play when hammerdin isn’t all that fun
Made it to Worldstone Keep in Hardcore Nightmare as a lvl 58 paladin and got swarmed by two Deathlord packs the moment I entered. RIP. Fist of Heavens worked spectacularly up till that point.
holy bolt hitting even demons while foh's cooldown being way shorter makes this build so dang overpowered! i wonder if palys are going to dominate pvp soon
I've taken a FOH to lvl 83 Hardcore Ladder and I was surprised how much I ended up using holy bolt for HELL difficulty, like 60/40 with the actual FOH.
Llama since you are lead developer I would like to request the zoom feature be added as a general skill on console so I do not have to go through settings to switch back and forth. Thank you in advance.
@@DARNPoE yes you're right going straight to the wiki and finding out rune recipes instead of a findable in game item that tells you them is so much more "Diablo"
I thought we were just making fun, it's pretty clear that he says the line above, it's based on Mephisto's line when he "reincarnates" Diablo in one of the cinematics
I noticed it seems Llama didn't know this - when doing Radament, always go through the dock entrance into sewers lvl 1. The entrance to lvl 2 will ALWAYS be right above (top right side of the map) of that dock entrance or right below it (bottom right side of the dock entrance). It just saves you a couple of minutes running level 1 as you start at lvl 2. :)
And every now and again maps are weird and it's actually closer to the merc slave trader dude. If I had to guess that happens once every other solstice. It's negligible but it _can_ happen.
@@brandont3609 Yeh i've played it since it came out as well xD so the Tal rashes belt that says 37% damage goes to mana doesn't actually make u take 37% less dmg xD i guess that would be too powerful. I thought it was like a built in Energy shield.
@@cryptosporidiom Y'all got no chill. We've waited 15 years for any meaningful skill changes. The online ladder test PTR got pulled down one week ago. Llama even said in another video that he didn't expect to see it for two weeks and ladder probably will be another week behind the live patch. Expect first or second week of April maybe.
thinking also about ladder starting with this character however I think I'm gonna stick to Holy Fire up to nightmare act 4 the mana management seems really unpleasant without spirits and also i could do cows for bases
With maps like that in the worldstone you really are mad not to hit a few baal runs. Llama id really love to see a current patch hybrid run of this char, foh / holy bolt / fanat / smite
i really want to get d2r, but id have to get a new laptop since mine wont be able to play, so i guess ims tuck with d2 legacy for a while haha. Looks really cool though
More playthroughs pls!!! No need for more endgame videos with endless resources and best gear... The real game is this kind and slowly build your characters!!
Hi, MrLlamaSC, Can you start a new challenge? New game with 8 players, i start playing on bonenecro and i cant start hell with "/players 8", because monsters are very healthly, i have 79 level after normal and nightmare, but i dont know how play him in hell...🙃
at lvl 30 (foh requirement) you can have holy bolt maxed lvl 20 holy bolt 220 magic damage for 3 mana lvl 1 fist of heavens 200 lightning damage for 25 mana until you get a ton of mana, using foh at all is pointless
You don't spend 5 points for Redemption, you spend 5 points for Redemption, Cleansing and Vigor - to zip around the town at least, especially when farming Trav and having to run to the far away waypoint over and over, Charge is better outside of town. All that utility is worth the measly 5 points. If anything I'm less interested in Conviction, since the FoH + Smite build Llama made a video about seems much more interesting than pure FoH anyway. In that setup you would need 5 points again just for 1 point in Conviction, but all the other auras along the way are basically useless (you use Fanaticism in that build so Might doesn't count solely towards Conviction)
I'd probably stuff a couple of sapphires in a helm instead of the +skills until you get insight, plus if you've got another character that can kill cows by the time you start using foh you can be using spirit
![[Normal] Diablo 2 - LET'S PLAY ZEAL PALADIN | Guided Playthrough](/img/n.gif)
1:34:01 level 44. FoH 19 and holy bolt 18
2:05:31 FoH 24, holy bolt 18, conviction 10
2:35:00 level 54 fight ancients
2:45:42 level 58 completed NM. conviction 13. Max FoH, Holy bolt.
@3:02 for an end game setup, in ptr, I was messing around with Dragonscale. You can get some pretty solid hydra damage with a ton of +all skills, a lvl 25 conviction, and lvl 12 lower resist from Frenzy Plague Merc. This allows you to mix in the Hydra's while you're spamming FoH, and you can begin to clear "animal" class monsters much more efficiently. And with the "-207% Enemy Resistances" you break pretty much every immunity in the game and almost guarantee max dmg for Hydras and FoH's lightning dmg. At times it can still be useful to slap all 6 hydras down while fighting demons and undead, especially before a boss/baal waves, the damage they provide can help to speed things up.
Definitely would be lovely for a swap.
Diablo 2 in a nut shell: *just talked about how we need to get more mana* "so we are going to continue to put points into vitality"
yep this is what i do not undestant if you need mana why not put few point to mana nope all to vitality
@@trnovsky33 because you find items that give you +mana which is enough.. look at the +mana on spirit for example.
@@ingocore i know what i mena by this that eache build is total the same strength and dex to wear gear no mana(exept energy shield) and all life.
@@trnovsky33 well it's easier to play around not having enough mana instead of not having enough life, especially with external mana sources like Insight or the good ole mana pot, or late game buffs like CTA.
Tbh stat points are not the most interesting aspect of a build
The FOH changes are SO good, combined with holy bolts now hurting demons too.
It is still balanced, since you will be restricted to single target damage on any non-demon or undead, particularly Ancients, Izual, and most of act 2
I would love to see bliz add charged bolts to lightning storm, keeping the low frequency of hits so that it doesn't become a stand-still-doing-nothing build :)
@atombrain111 Because if not, we'd end up with brainless gameplay where anything on the screen instantly dies. Which is why Holy Fire was adjusted twice during PTR.
Just started watching these lately. Pretty funny and at the same time informative. Played D2 religiously back in the day. Just started playing D2R and following all your Sorc, Pally, Necro and Barb runs. Currently making a FoH/Tesla Pally.
Thanks to following this guide I got a Vipermagi while running through Dark Wood. Thanks, MrLlama
Right when i finished the first part, this one popped up. Perfect timing Llama.
same! I just finished the first part this morning
@@JonLeeNJ Llama out here just getting me more and more hyped for this patch release.
2:12:23 "and we're just blowing these dudes right now....up"
"I thank you, mortal, for my freedom. Your freedom, on the other hand..." 1:23:12
1:23:05 that hitbox is due to having FOH on your left click... it's super annoying. It will make you cast FOH on mobs instead of walking to a location too.
Tower level 3 is alvl40 so the crystal sword you got would have rolled 4 sockets from larzuk. The item level for a four socketed CS needs to be in the range of 26 to 40
What are you looking at to determine that?
Good job Llama. You really got your dude cranking on his Rusthandle nicely.
It's really nice when fisting.
Llama really cranked off in this video, great job!
Finally a fister build that compete with barb fister. Every ladder reset people were only playing barb fist because meta. What a time to be alive!
@52:53.... "I'm just a bill" - that was a memory blast for me X'D
The perfect build imo is the hybrid smiter/foh one,
I have made a grave mistake…I did not start playing this game sooner. Thanks for the guide🎉
Yanno... I have loved FoH since before LoD was released. It is nice to see it will be powerful but I'm almost bitter that now almost every Pally rolled is gonna be my guy. As soon as I saw the changes to Holy Bolt and FoH, I made one on the PTR to test it. Pretty excited for 2.4, ngl.
I'm still a bit salty about the paladin getting another really cool build. And that my favourite necro build has to invest like 100 points in bone spear but still does less damage and has much higher mana costs and cannot heal. Unfair
@@tureliondurr Your fav necro build isn't weak as a kitten against Animal type creatures which make up a solid third or more of monsters, but I don't disagree. Pallys are overtuned.
TBF, corpse explosion/amp/decrep is absurdly strong so it isn't like Necros have nothing going for them.
FoH specifically has been basically useless since d2 launched (except in PvP). Regardless of the other absurdly strong Pally builds, I am glad to see it will be playable.
Definitely my first character, you can chaos, key farm, trav, and even uber with a little smite.
Not to mention looks fun to play through in single player
You can do all that with hammerdin too but you are right definitely going to be my starter too. It looks very fun to play when hammerdin isn’t all that fun
@@enhancethechance3998 true, just happy to do it with something a little new, and seems like it doesn't need any gear at all to be decent
Made it to Worldstone Keep in Hardcore Nightmare as a lvl 58 paladin and got swarmed by two Deathlord packs the moment I entered. RIP. Fist of Heavens worked spectacularly up till that point.
Let's get this guys cranking off. What a way to start the video
what's the difference between an etherial weapon with a zod and a non-eth with an ohm? just the rqs?
Looking for insight but didn't pick up the socketed armor. Stone or Treachery for the merc, and boom.
would a couple of points in meditation help for leveling?
holy bolt hitting even demons while foh's cooldown being way shorter makes this build so dang overpowered! i wonder if palys are going to dominate pvp soon
Buffed boners (+33% dmg) and wind-druids(with zoo-meat shield) are much stronger now.
Does holy bolt pierce through enemies now?
"Skip animals" says Llama.
Me (a CHADalin) and all the animals cracking together, thunder it all. 😂 0 deaths on players 5 for NM.
I love Paladin. ❤
what about for leveling you go meditation?
At around 7:00m into it how did you get to stony field? You walked into cold plains from stony field and that entryway wasn't on the map.
The plugin that shows stats on stream doesn't work with D2R?
The One Where Moo Girl Got Her Name
I'm re-watching this and it never registered how good that circlet was...
I've taken a FOH to lvl 83 Hardcore Ladder and I was surprised how much I ended up using holy bolt for HELL difficulty, like 60/40 with the actual FOH.
Llama cranking dudes with fist of heavens lolol
Llama since you are lead developer I would like to request the zoom feature be added as a general skill on console so I do not have to go through settings to switch back and forth. Thank you in advance.
what do you think about having gm make find able recipes pages ( like rune word/ or cube craft items)
Stick to D3 dude
@@DARNPoE yes you're right going straight to the wiki and finding out rune recipes instead of a findable in game item that tells you them is so much more "Diablo"
NEW throw barb play-through after??
Thresh : i'm a plant , dont ever mistake me with a bunch of animals again
1:21:11 - you missed a Broad Sword, perhaps with 4 os :(
missed a possible 4os broad sword @ 1:21:12
Mr. Llama PLEASE do a charge pally let's play!!!!
“Erase your sisters reality, brush dust off your shoulder” what is it that the intro says?
"Arrays, mister Yamasee"
I'll drop a comment in here just in case lol
arise mister yamas cee, lord of diablo
the diablo part doesnt sound even close but whatever, thats what llama says it is lmao
I thought we were just making fun, it's pretty clear that he says the line above, it's based on Mephisto's line when he "reincarnates" Diablo in one of the cinematics
where did llama get the 4os targe?
Read the skill in-game, it is called "Fist Of The Heaven". Therefore, in short it's "FotH" 👊🏻⚡
Love these lets plays! :) how about werebear playthrough next?
@56:28 , the mana and life stat bugg is still here in 2.4 I see... enoying.
I noticed it seems Llama didn't know this - when doing Radament, always go through the dock entrance into sewers lvl 1. The entrance to lvl 2 will ALWAYS be right above (top right side of the map) of that dock entrance or right below it (bottom right side of the dock entrance). It just saves you a couple of minutes running level 1 as you start at lvl 2. :)
Its not always right of the entrance from Docks... its actually (i think 52%) more ofteb on the left side of the Dock entrance
@@BumstiLP that is why i said OR. But yes, it is near the dock entrance
@@markomancikas yeah... sorry... was pretty sleepy when reading and seems i skipped the second part of your Comment^^ my bad
And every now and again maps are weird and it's actually closer to the merc slave trader dude. If I had to guess that happens once every other solstice. It's negligible but it _can_ happen.
@@stylis666 didn't know that to be honest 😅
Which version is this played on? Ptr is over but holy bolt hits demons?
You could play ptr after it ended by using the .exe file in the folder (in it didnt uninstall)
Looking at how much struggle it is to keep up the mana it would definitely be a viable option to use meditation instead of conviction for levelling.
nope it wont because of the dmg loss
Or put some extra points in energy)
I can't wait to crank off with my own paladin
Doing this build now - doesn't it seem quite OP?
no
"give yourselves the clap": llama
omg i always thought that "damage goes to mana" meant that you loose mana instead of health as the damage not that you gain mana wtfffff
omg I thought that for 20 years too....
@@brandont3609 Yeh i've played it since it came out as well xD so the Tal rashes belt that says 37% damage goes to mana doesn't actually make u take 37% less dmg xD i guess that would be too powerful. I thought it was like a built in Energy shield.
Is FOH/HB FCR dependent?
2 tir rune helm fixes your mana issues.
Moo girl#s reaction to the cow level is hilarious
2:12:25 "We're just blowing these dudes right now ... up" :D
your barb merc has rogue portrait?
I really liked the mooo girl bit,,,,oink!
conviction only applys to the target getting hit by FoH no?
I can't get a 4 socket sword or shield for Spirit :(
When does the patch drop?
Thats my question.
It feels Like it will never hit live Servers ...
Fucking never. Ten hour downtime for no benefit. Why even bother with this playthrough if there's no patch to make FoH viable?
@@cryptosporidiom Y'all got no chill.
We've waited 15 years for any meaningful skill changes. The online ladder test PTR got pulled down one week ago. Llama even said in another video that he didn't expect to see it for two weeks and ladder probably will be another week behind the live patch. Expect first or second week of April maybe.
watching this in 2023, and it would seem moogirl is, in fact, set in stone. interesting to see the origin story for this which now = baby etc.
and a few moments later... moomom. confirmed
thinking also about ladder starting with this character however I think I'm gonna stick to Holy Fire up to nightmare act 4 the mana management seems really unpleasant without spirits and also i could do cows for bases
Can you get bases from norm cows?
@@MegaDizzle123 Yeah for 4os sword the shield would probably not be great
Does some1 know when 2.4 goes on live server rly Wanna test foh
Wait, you guys put your socks on one leg at a time?
Aaand llama forgot to link ilvl sockets website :D
My favorite cow fact: are delicious
I just notice the avatar for the barb merc is a rouge
Looks like fun to level up this way
With maps like that in the worldstone you really are mad not to hit a few baal runs. Llama id really love to see a current patch hybrid run of this char, foh / holy bolt / fanat / smite
You missed a grey Long Sword at Shenk
Weak conviction llama.. you say it’s locked in on moogirl.. 10 seconds later unless she changes her mind again
Silly question: is this untwinkable?
Switch to old grafics and Spam leftclick to nix potions faster ;)
i really want to get d2r, but id have to get a new laptop since mine wont be able to play, so i guess ims tuck with d2 legacy for a while haha. Looks really cool though
Just bought a switch to play D2R 😂
You should start crafting in part 3
I’m surprised you didn’t shop a +3 foh scepter maybe with 3 conviction
I was thinking the same thing. A plus 2/3 foh scepter shouldn’t be too hard to shop
@@dougdiehl6205 the only thing I can think of is he didn’t want to spend the 30-1hour to shop and wanted to just keep it interesting.
This scepter would cost 750k plus xD
@@BumstiLP eh 750k really isn’t much. You can get that by just selling 25 30,000k armors from eldrich or pindle
@@BumstiLP maybe. But just a simple 2/3 foh? That couldn’t be that much.
More playthroughs pls!!!
No need for more endgame videos with endless resources and best gear...
The real game is this kind and slowly build your characters!!
Is it too strong? I love barbarian but this is making me want to start a foh pala for ladder
Somewhere in a random diablo forum there will be one comment that Llama admitted he pays Blizzard money for better drops.
You know, I'm something of a farmer myself
"Like I say" counter: 10
and now ladder is at the end of April
Gonna switch my hammerdin to FOH. Just cause I can't hit anything with him
Hi, MrLlamaSC, Can you start a new challenge? New game with 8 players, i start playing on bonenecro and i cant start hell with "/players 8", because monsters are very healthly, i have 79 level after normal and nightmare, but i dont know how play him in hell...🙃
conviction is useless with holy bolt, idk why he isn't using meditation instead
To lower the lightning resist?
@@vojislavl6665 yeah but the lightning damage sucks, it's all about the holy bolts
@@lolwhatidk Still helps I guess... I don't know, I'm no expert. That's just what I think.
at lvl 30 (foh requirement) you can have holy bolt maxed
lvl 20 holy bolt 220 magic damage for 3 mana
lvl 1 fist of heavens 200 lightning damage for 25 mana
until you get a ton of mana, using foh at all is pointless
You don't spend 5 points for Redemption, you spend 5 points for Redemption, Cleansing and Vigor - to zip around the town at least, especially when farming Trav and having to run to the far away waypoint over and over, Charge is better outside of town. All that utility is worth the measly 5 points. If anything I'm less interested in Conviction, since the FoH + Smite build Llama made a video about seems much more interesting than pure FoH anyway. In that setup you would need 5 points again just for 1 point in Conviction, but all the other auras along the way are basically useless (you use Fanaticism in that build so Might doesn't count solely towards Conviction)
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Except you can't raise P count if you are going after Spirit as it is a Ladder Runeword only and can't change P count in ladder
Why no players 8 during the countess runs...? Just wasting exp opportunity, especially with the amount of damage being done there...
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Mana intens spec :0
I'd probably stuff a couple of sapphires in a helm instead of the +skills until you get insight, plus if you've got another character that can kill cows by the time you start using foh you can be using spirit
I get the impression that the only compelling reason to run this over a hammerdin is Act 2.
Lmao get some mana
Moo pig 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂