I always had the same concern getting a stainless snorkel you would get rain/snow/crap down it. I've run a stainless snorkel on the nav for a bit over 2 years and the first 6 months or so I would put a plastic bag over the snorkel head during heavy storms out of concern haha but then didn't do it a couple of times and checked airbox after and was all good and I've never worried about it since and never ever seen any water/mud etc in the airbox, few leaves before from smashing through thick jungle that got sucked in, but obviously never went past the air filter itself. You hear bad stories about people getting water down their stainless snorkel and wrecking an engine but I've tried as hard as I can and had the nav in every possible weather condition multiple times and yet to see any water down there. The only time I ever got water in the airbox was on the previous 4wd with a plastic forward facing snorkel driving down the highway for an hour in pouring rain and the filter and airbox were all wet when I pulled up. My main annoyance with the stainless snorkel is they are f**king loud right next to your ear when the window is down and they are on the drivers side haha (I also have a custom stainless airbox which makes it noiser again). But I personally prefer the looks of them and they are also stronger, eg smashing into a bank they hold up whereas a plastic one wont (depending how hard you hit). I smashed my side into a bank so hard that the inner guard cracked but the snorkel was fine and saved it from more damage 😂 I've gone a stainless again on the patrol because of the above two reasons and the patrol has an airbox on the passenger side so it wont be noisy in my ear when I put the window down 😁 Sorry for the novel haha that's just my personal experience and I think both are great and have pro's and con's, the plastic one looks good on the cruiser and should be perfect for you 👌 Ps everyone needs to definitely make sure their airbox is properly sealed too when doing deep water crossings, seen it happen many times on the tracks. People think they are good cause the shop put a snorkel on but the factory airbox isn't properly sealed and they get a heap of water down their engine anyway
@@MattBrownbill It's more the way that they are designed, staino's normally face up and backwards compared to the plastic ones which normally face forward and slightly downwards.
When you do your diff breathers, use the original steel breather barbs & push a bit of hose over them & push the stiff plastic breather hose into that rubber hose. Those little plastic clip in breather fittings that come in the kit don't last when fitted to diffs. Vibration, sticks & dirt kills them quick & they can leak in water.
Great work guys. Plastic is the go. I'm surprised that nothing in the comments suggest that the inlet can easily be rotated 180 degrease and achieve the best of both worlds. I've been doing this for many years in dusty or wet conditions. Got an old 80 , spent the best part of 2months in the cape this year and the air filter came out sweet. Cheers!
Had a navara come into work, was running like absolute crap, engine light on as well, plugged the computer in and it showed airflow sensor had a fault. Considering the car has only 35k on the clock, a fault was a bit suss. Popped the air filter top off and it was 1/2 full of water and the filter was dripping wet!! The stainless snorkel opening must have been facing towards the wind the night before and it rained pretty much most of the night. The air box had also been plugged up for water crossings so removed the plugged, new filter and somehow no damage done to the motor! Told the owner to make some removable type bungs for the air box and keep them in the glove box for river crossings. Safari is the best choice for sure.
I have a plastic on my 80, I think it looks better and more stock. Most Stainless look home made like someone put it together with some old pipes they had laying around.
Good choice on plastic, especially for an older vehicle like yours. I have dragged mine against obstacles without damage. I think you will find it plenty strong for almost all needs.
All very valid points lads. I think it suits that car's style. I personally run a staino mainly for the looks but it also sounds cool. Mine has a rain deflecter loover in the end to prevent water ingress and haven't had any issues.
btw you can get a sock to put over the ram head when driving behind a convoy of 4wd on a dusty road if your worried about geting dust down the ram head ...but Awesome stuff and very informative and a lot of good points for a plastic snorkel .. and yep ive got a plastic Safari Snorkel as well never looked back its been awesome for the win :) .. big thumbs up
You and I have the same philosophy when it comes to 4WD mods. I like them to be a much reversible as possible, and if not, for them to look as much OEM as possible. And I think the Safari snorkel is one good looking piece of kit. It really suits the 80 Series. It's what'll put on my 80, when I decide it's time to fit one. Well done boys. 👍
Thanks for the video. I'm concerned that the Hilux models with a circular air box can suck in a lot of dirt from under the wheel arch, especially as there is a cheap ill-fitting plastic liner with fragile push fasteners. Instead of a schnorkel. I'm thinking of shifting the air intake to inside the engine bay at the coolest point and least likely to catch dust or water. You're right that the deepest water crossing is around the top of the wheels. As well as all the parts vulnerable to water, there are your door mounted speakers and instrument panel. The idea of a ram effect is nonsense as the filter is a major barrier. However, schnorks do look good, even sexy. By the way, I've seen other plastic Safari models that need an oval hole, which is more difficult to cut with a hole saw. Happy submarining !
Stainless snorkels look about as bogan as you can get and they're pretty heavy flexing and vibrating up there, they draw cops to come and check out your other mods too, good choice on the Safari, they look factory almost and will appeal more to most people if you sell, they're very tough and well made actually.
Great video as usual. Easy to follow and “No boring bits! “ Just on a serious note. You drilled into the panel without safety glasses, Im not the fun police, and even I am guilty of doing it. My grandfather was a metal worker and lost nearly all vision in one eye in his twenties, drilling without safety glasses, red hot swarf flicked up into his eye. Happens in a split second!
Looks good. Ive got a staino snorkel power coated black n i love the look n induction noise. I think safari deffs makes the best plastic snorkel when it comes to looks and performance 👌🏼
I have a similar snorkel on my paj, having the ram head is handy, I keep it forward on the road under normal conditions, and face it in towards the windscreen to stop mud and dust blowing in as much offroad
Im enjoying the simple talk. Too many people are trying to "Be experts!" and most are using 100K _ Cars, or 50k cars with full SPONSORSHIP. Thanks for just being a Normal Guy.
When working on painted surfaces, use masking tape and cover whole area. Rear-facing, big-tube snorkels are really in the "Wanker-Factor" camp. Most engines do not need the huge "Look at me" pipes nor do they need a vacuum forming on the air intake at highway speeds.
A smart choice mate i like the plastic snorkals over the stainless ones all day everyday and with the plastic ram heads you can just loosen up the stainless clamp and turn the snorkel backwards for deeper water crossings to help reduce the chance of water getting down into the air intake
There's a few lips/catch points to gather any water that gets down a Safari Snorkel, and then the black plastic material is a good option for absorbing a bit of heat, to evaporate any water collected in the snorkel, while the car is parked. End result is if any water does get down it, it can evaporate while you're parked. A good, simple design. Centre punch is your friend for the Safari Install. Just make sure to disconnect the battery before using it on the pillar.
I’ve still got the factory safari original one they put on back in the day, still perfect colour no fading! Can hear it dose, even more so now with a airbox and a intercooler with the tune it makes some induction noise but only some times which is perfect not annoying at all!
Can't really go wrong with the Safari, proven to be a great product for how many decades now? The performance difference between SS and plastic are negligible, what matters for flow are tube length and restrictions. On a typical 4cl/6cl turbo diesel we all run, you'd be lucky to see 2kw difference with 32-33" tyres. I'd rather go plastic myself and spend the rest of the money on something like a front mount/top mount IC. Standard coolers are pretty rubbish for pressure drop after the core and heatsoak. The 80 looks good with the safari, it fits well with the guard and doesn't grab your eye because its shiny tube with bad fitment.
Being very honest, now check your airbox has a good seal on the lid. After Sam's airbox/snorkel let water in on the last livin4x4 video, you'd wanna make sure the entire intake line is well sealed
Good advice The reverse style S/S Snorkels R 30% less efficient because they don’t get as much air rammed into them & R noisey & where they join @ the air box the seal comes loose & ends up falling apart causing gaps where water can get in I had one on my last ranger this time went for the plastic factory ford model doesn’t look as good but I’m looking for usefulness over looks this time after doing my homework on snorkels it’s always better going for the factory unit but safari snorkels is a we’ll know Ozzie company that has a good name & tested units 👍😎
mine came with stainless and I wish it didn't because its so loud, apart from that the stainless definitely looks better and I've never had an issue with excessive dirt or dust in my airbox, i have however heard that having a front facing snorkel can suck up a lot more dust, but that doesn't matter because you can turn the head around.
Great video. I ran a safari snorkel on my disco 2 then stuck with plastic for my disco 3. They're ideal for over here in the UK. In the summer have it facing forward then turn it around in the winter to help prevent all the road spray and rocksalt from being sucked in as much
Got the Safari snorkel to. It’s made by a big company that puts proper engineered RnD in to its product. The forward facing Ram head is proven and has had a big company behind it for many many years without significant change. Small companies or back yard jobs is an eBay type risk in my opinion. Sure some might be ok. But not worth the risk and they look a bit. Also, maybe stainless can take a hit, but I’d prefer a snorkel to be reasonably sacrificial so the force isn’t transferred in to the body causing worse more expensive damage.
I built a 4" stainless for my gq facing rearward and tested for 20 mins in heavy rain (not much of a problem in ausie as you don't get so much proper rain) and got 300ml of water in airbox because water travels along the outside to the end and gets sucked in with airflow. 4" safari plastic head and a coat of raptor and problem solved. Can still face over screen or backwards so trees and scrub don't smash it off. 30 degrees egt reduction also over old design safari plastic straw at open road speed shows far better flow. On the 80 I agree with your choice... I enjoy the channel but lay off the adverts thanks
I mean stainless steel would be my choose but it’s your 4wd and you can do anything with it and I am happy how your 4wd is like working up and getting built .LOVE YOUR CHANNEL:)
Have snorkels on all our off road vehicles, but everyone seems to think it's for water. Trust me that 2x4 isn't getting across most mud puddles. We have them installed because of dust keeps the air intake above the dust line especially in convoy
In the rain you can turn the head 180 degrees to stop water ingress. You can go the same and put a sock on it in the dust to help there. I'll be going plastic when I put a snorkel my car soon as it's much cheaper. Keep up the good work
I've had both never got water or sticks down either now the one major benefit of stainless snorkels and why most comp trucks run them is water ingress on bog holes or water crossing the down side of stainless snorkels is you either have a massive hole cut in you guard or they hang out and the bigger you go the bigger the bigger the hole or more they hang out the flip side plastic snorkels are molded to shape around your guard so they look neater
I went Safari on the GU and eventually ended up going to a Millweld Ram head 4" and felt a benefit straight away - what informed the decision in my case is that the safari inner guard peice narrows right down restricting the flow of course i went the powder coat black on the GU haha.
My thoughts exactly as well!! I've been waiting for the snorkel install for ages and I knew you'd go the plastic haha. Nothing wrong with a staino at all either way you go there is no wrong decision!! I love the old school look and the cruiser has come along so far its looking so good mate!! Now you just need some indicator lights for that bullbar 😂 Another great video boys keep killing it 🤘
I went Safari (Plastic) on my GU Patrol and glad I did, just for the aesthetics. The noise was noticeable when I first got it, but after a while, you get not to notice it. Good choice
Another great clip very informative with the info I needed to make my choice had safari in the past and highly recommend them and I also dig the factory look even though the stainless may be tougher and less restriction on the bends ,keep up the great work /vids fellas 👍
Had a 3.5inch snorkel on my isuzu bighorn, facing straight up. The factory airbox had a 1way rubber valve that would drain the water out. Never had any issues after a big rain storm.
only so much air can be held in the snorkel at once anyway so that means a facing forward snorkel will not increase air intake or make more power but still good choice looks better than a stano
I've got stainless only because plastic 4" was not available. I painted it black and fitted a ram head to make it look less modified. I'd defiantly go plastic over stainless if a quality Safari was available. Better look and less weight. Marty from Perth
I like the look of the Safari snorkels over the stainless pipe . For me stainless pipe was cheap and easy to knock up in the shed in a couple of hours and that was the attraction in the beginning , the cost not performance
I live in south west wa. Its a verry wet place here rains 80% of our year. I ended up changing from a safari to stainless as I found the ram head turned into a shovel in the rain and filled my airbox more in a average morning trip to work then my staino does in a month 👍. However I do now run a uni filter on my stainless for the big pudles that send water well over the roof and random debris finding its way to the airbox
In my country, you can only homologate a plastic snorkel. And even if stainless steel could be homologated, I would still choose plastic, because of the more classic look. I also have a Safari snorkel on my patrol and I am completely satisfied with it. As for rivers crossing - your next mod should be to raise the diff (and all others) breathers ;)
I also have more of a touring rig so the plastic was the way to go to save on weight as well, 4wds get heavey with mods so even a couple kg here and there helps, once i upgraded my air filter to the ryco performance foam filter i got more induction noise and basicly no dust past the filter defiantly worth doing to
I have a 3 inch stainless snorkel on my patrol Facing back doesn’t have a vent on it straight open I use to park under a tree in my drive way use to be covered in leaves all the time every time I use to service it or knew I was going out on big drives I would check my air filter cause it would suck in leaves an could notice a difference up hills
I run a 3” stainless on a td daily and have had no issues this far. Yes water does get trapped in the airbox during storms, so good to have a decent setup. I have a 4” stainless on my td comp truck that runs a custom ram head and that’s the best setup I’ve seen. Insane amount of power increase just from increasing 1” pipe size. It does need a slightly bigger turbo to utilise the air
Plastic Safari snorkels have been engineered and around for a long time. I’ve seen the pretty staino ones drink water in heavy rain. Been using plastic Safaris for over 20 years and never had any problem.
It’s funny how he talks about the looks of potentially been a factory option, cuz I was looking at my snorkel for my px2 ranger for the same reasonings. Settled for a Ironman 3” snorkel which does look like from factory. Stano yeah it sound better but been a passenger to a 4” stano, on a “06 courier, damn it gets annoying long enough to wind the window up (yes the airbox for them is on the passenger side not the driver).
100% agree. I would hate to hear the induction noise from a staino, I drive a 70 series and have more than enough noise as it is. Thanks for the content. Cheers
Could be wrong but the air pressure being sucked by a turbo is going to be more than the pressure being forced down the snorkel even at 100km, maybe if it was na would make a difference between forward facing and backward facing?
If your worried about dust you could get the spinner head for them and I know they are effective. Also I think the ram head will let water in in heavy rain driving. I have had heavy rain stop my hzj75 with a spinner head on the snorkel and fill the air filter. Keep up the vids 👍🏼
Could always just loosen the hose clamp and turn the snorkel head around, will still run exactly the same. I do it for mine when hitting big holes so no water splashes up.
Your choice entirely on the snorkel Patrick ! but a couple of comments you made. 1 ) the rain or snow , wouldn't you be ramming them in when you're driving? 2 ) leaves and dirt on your roof , wouldn't they be blowing backwards when you're driving?
I've had a plastic factory snorkel on my Gu patrol for years when I put It on I just made sure I sealed it well and it's been drowned so on and it's always sealed good and been good just cons when it starts fading.... I got a staino snorkel and after market airbox fordged fabrications did for me drowned it a few times seals well and never had the issue with rain going into the airbox I think it's because the way he built the snorkel not to catch the rain performance wise it works great its deffintaly better cons the noise 🤣 but apart from that I'm not bios on it all plastic ones have worked for many of years on a factory airbox
I've got a 80 series with a safari on and I turn mine backwards to stop rain which we get a lot of here in nz getting rammed into my cold air box cheers Buck
The thing I like about plastic snorkels is you can change the heads. Ram or cyclonic. Cyclonic is nice for rain and dust. The Safari snorkel looks very good on the 80.
I’ve personally gone with both plastic and stainless but with an 80 series they do look really good with a plastic snorkel. Any other older style wagon fourby I wouldn’t say so
Rear facing snorkels put slightly more strain on your engine as it has to suck air against the natural passing flow its basic physics, even confirmed this with a tjm manager telling my friend and i they are garbage and its just a stupid trend. Ram head snorkels are the go.
Stainless looks great but the price an lot people change the air box an more money and Cop bait .Plastic fantasy is great I got that on my Gu when I got it an if not broken why fix does the trick. Good job on the videos guys love the work👍
100% agree on the aesthetics, stainless look a lot better on utes rather than wagons imo, and if going on a wagon it has to compliment other mods to not be so jarring
Only thing with a ram head (and this is more for modern cars) is that they can in fact cause over boosting causing the car to shut down but like you said they are a lot quieter
Personal preference I went stainless snorkel and air box 😅 but my pig is built as a weekend worrier. But unfortunately I have been using it as a daily 😕 and you get over the induction noise quickly and as for water in the stainless doesn't seem to be a problem for me.... but in saying a plastic snorkel is a good option especially if daily driving
I've tested forward & backward Ram heads vs stainless backward type inlet, using a manometer (sensitive pressure gauge) There's next to no difference between facing a Ram head backward and forward, pressure or performance wise. The issue with "stainless snorkels" is the shape of the inlet and the distance of the opening in relation to the bend. If the body of the snorkel is restricting flow, go for a stainless snokel with a proper ram head.
You guys may have made a precious video about it , but do you have diff breathers? Would definitely recommend diff breathers before doing anything in water even with a snorkel
What would have you gone, PLASTIC OR STAINLESS?? Let us know!! 👇👇
I will never go stainless again I had one the rain come on and the air box I got made didn't have any grain set up and I was sucking in water
I'm going basic plastic to Patrick. There for a purpose. Not posing. Cheers mate.
Plastic. Purpose not posing. Cheers guys. 🍻
I noticed she's not as sooty it's breathing better
Definitely plastic. Same reasons too. Just added one to my gu patrol and found out hard to get hold of too.
I always had the same concern getting a stainless snorkel you would get rain/snow/crap down it. I've run a stainless snorkel on the nav for a bit over 2 years and the first 6 months or so I would put a plastic bag over the snorkel head during heavy storms out of concern haha but then didn't do it a couple of times and checked airbox after and was all good and I've never worried about it since and never ever seen any water/mud etc in the airbox, few leaves before from smashing through thick jungle that got sucked in, but obviously never went past the air filter itself.
You hear bad stories about people getting water down their stainless snorkel and wrecking an engine but I've tried as hard as I can and had the nav in every possible weather condition multiple times and yet to see any water down there. The only time I ever got water in the airbox was on the previous 4wd with a plastic forward facing snorkel driving down the highway for an hour in pouring rain and the filter and airbox were all wet when I pulled up.
My main annoyance with the stainless snorkel is they are f**king loud right next to your ear when the window is down and they are on the drivers side haha (I also have a custom stainless airbox which makes it noiser again). But I personally prefer the looks of them and they are also stronger, eg smashing into a bank they hold up whereas a plastic one wont (depending how hard you hit). I smashed my side into a bank so hard that the inner guard cracked but the snorkel was fine and saved it from more damage 😂
I've gone a stainless again on the patrol because of the above two reasons and the patrol has an airbox on the passenger side so it wont be noisy in my ear when I put the window down 😁
Sorry for the novel haha that's just my personal experience and I think both are great and have pro's and con's, the plastic one looks good on the cruiser and should be perfect for you 👌
Ps everyone needs to definitely make sure their airbox is properly sealed too when doing deep water crossings, seen it happen many times on the tracks. People think they are good cause the shop put a snorkel on but the factory airbox isn't properly sealed and they get a heap of water down their engine anyway
I was referring to you when I spoke about people having a tough stainless snorkel that can protect panels , your snorkel has taken a beating !!
Why does the material it's made from change how much water/debris goes in it?
@@MattBrownbill It's more the way that they are designed, staino's normally face up and backwards compared to the plastic ones which normally face forward and slightly downwards.
@@wildfish2190 The number of people that can't figure out they can turn the head of most plastic snorkels to face backwards is mind boggling 😂
@@gqwarrior6694 true that
It's your 4x4 so do your thing. The Safari snorkel matches the front and rear bars and the roof rack and sets the 80 off nicely.
Thanks Graham! Well that's it, and thanks :)
K&N filters improve the sound a lot.
When you do your diff breathers, use the original steel breather barbs & push a bit of hose over them & push the stiff plastic breather hose into that rubber hose. Those little plastic clip in breather fittings that come in the kit don't last when fitted to diffs. Vibration, sticks & dirt kills them quick & they can leak in water.
Great work guys. Plastic is the go. I'm surprised that nothing in the comments suggest that the inlet can easily be rotated 180 degrease and achieve the best of both worlds. I've been doing this for many years in dusty or wet conditions. Got an old 80 , spent the best part of 2months in the cape this year and the air filter came out sweet. Cheers!
Had a navara come into work, was running like absolute crap, engine light on as well, plugged the computer in and it showed airflow sensor had a fault. Considering the car has only 35k on the clock, a fault was a bit suss. Popped the air filter top off and it was 1/2 full of water and the filter was dripping wet!! The stainless snorkel opening must have been facing towards the wind the night before and it rained pretty much most of the night. The air box had also been plugged up for water crossings so removed the plugged, new filter and somehow no damage done to the motor! Told the owner to make some removable type bungs for the air box and keep them in the glove box for river crossings. Safari is the best choice for sure.
I have a plastic on my 80, I think it looks better and more stock.
Most Stainless look home made like someone put it together with some old pipes they had laying around.
Good choice on plastic, especially for an older vehicle like yours. I have dragged mine against obstacles without damage. I think you will find it plenty strong for almost all needs.
All very valid points lads. I think it suits that car's style. I personally run a staino mainly for the looks but it also sounds cool. Mine has a rain deflecter loover in the end to prevent water ingress and haven't had any issues.
Great choice, I've have a Safari on my Disco for 15 years and it still looks great. I now run a Cyclone head to help in dusty situations.
btw you can get a sock to put over the ram head when driving behind a convoy of 4wd on a dusty road if your worried about geting dust down the ram head ...but Awesome stuff and very informative and a lot of good points for a plastic snorkel .. and yep ive got a plastic Safari Snorkel as well never looked back its been awesome for the win :) .. big thumbs up
he can also turn the head around, plastic snorkels are the go
@@Daniel-cc6oy yep true m8 👍
You and I have the same philosophy when it comes to 4WD mods. I like them to be a much reversible as possible, and if not, for them to look as much OEM as possible. And I think the Safari snorkel is one good looking piece of kit. It really suits the 80 Series. It's what'll put on my 80, when I decide it's time to fit one. Well done boys. 👍
2 things. Use safety glasses unless you like dogs,guide dogs and never use those plastic clips to hold snorkel to A pillar.Nutserts are way to go.
Thanks for the video. I'm concerned that the Hilux models with a circular air box can suck in a lot of dirt from under the wheel arch, especially as there is a cheap ill-fitting plastic liner with fragile push fasteners. Instead of a schnorkel. I'm thinking of shifting the air intake to inside the engine bay at the coolest point and least likely to catch dust or water. You're right that the deepest water crossing is around the top of the wheels. As well as all the parts vulnerable to water, there are your door mounted speakers and instrument panel. The idea of a ram effect is nonsense as the filter is a major barrier. However, schnorks do look good, even sexy. By the way, I've seen other plastic Safari models that need an oval hole, which is more difficult to cut with a hole saw. Happy submarining !
Every woolworths crawler has a stainless snorkel. That's enough reason to not have one 😅
my mums Datsun has a stainless snorkel looks great.
Stainless snorkels look about as bogan as you can get and they're pretty heavy flexing and vibrating up there, they draw cops to come and check out your other mods too, good choice on the Safari, they look factory almost and will appeal more to most people if you sell, they're very tough and well made actually.
Great video as usual. Easy to follow and “No boring bits! “
Just on a serious note. You drilled into the panel without safety glasses, Im not the fun police, and even I am guilty of doing it. My grandfather was a metal worker and lost nearly all vision in one eye in his twenties, drilling without safety glasses, red hot swarf flicked up into his eye. Happens in a split second!
Looks good. Ive got a staino snorkel power coated black n i love the look n induction noise. I think safari deffs makes the best plastic snorkel when it comes to looks and performance 👌🏼
Congrats on the sponsor from fulcrum that’s good to see
I have a similar snorkel on my paj, having the ram head is handy, I keep it forward on the road under normal conditions, and face it in towards the windscreen to stop mud and dust blowing in as much offroad
Im enjoying the simple talk. Too many people are trying to "Be experts!" and most are using 100K _ Cars, or 50k cars with full SPONSORSHIP. Thanks for just being a Normal Guy.
When working on painted surfaces, use masking tape and cover whole area. Rear-facing, big-tube snorkels are really in the "Wanker-Factor" camp. Most engines do not need the huge "Look at me" pipes nor do they need a vacuum forming on the air intake at highway speeds.
A smart choice mate i like the plastic snorkals over the stainless ones all day everyday and with the plastic ram heads you can just loosen up the stainless clamp and turn the snorkel backwards for deeper water crossings to help reduce the chance of water getting down into the air intake
There's a few lips/catch points to gather any water that gets down a Safari Snorkel, and then the black plastic material is a good option for absorbing a bit of heat, to evaporate any water collected in the snorkel, while the car is parked. End result is if any water does get down it, it can evaporate while you're parked. A good, simple design.
Centre punch is your friend for the Safari Install. Just make sure to disconnect the battery before using it on the pillar.
You obviously need a 79 style prefilter snorkel cap for the tuff mine spec look mate
I’ve still got the factory safari original one they put on back in the day, still perfect colour no fading! Can hear it dose, even more so now with a airbox and a intercooler with the tune it makes some induction noise but only some times which is perfect not annoying at all!
Can't really go wrong with the Safari, proven to be a great product for how many decades now? The performance difference between SS and plastic are negligible, what matters for flow are tube length and restrictions. On a typical 4cl/6cl turbo diesel we all run, you'd be lucky to see 2kw difference with 32-33" tyres. I'd rather go plastic myself and spend the rest of the money on something like a front mount/top mount IC. Standard coolers are pretty rubbish for pressure drop after the core and heatsoak. The 80 looks good with the safari, it fits well with the guard and doesn't grab your eye because its shiny tube with bad fitment.
Being very honest, now check your airbox has a good seal on the lid. After Sam's airbox/snorkel let water in on the last livin4x4 video, you'd wanna make sure the entire intake line is well sealed
Definitely!!!
Good advice The reverse style S/S Snorkels R 30% less efficient because they don’t get as much air rammed into them & R noisey & where they join @ the air box the seal comes loose & ends up falling apart causing gaps where water can get in I had one on my last ranger this time went for the plastic factory ford model doesn’t look as good but I’m looking for usefulness over looks this time after doing my homework on snorkels it’s always better going for the factory unit but safari snorkels is a we’ll know Ozzie company that has a good name & tested units 👍😎
mine came with stainless and I wish it didn't because its so loud, apart from that the stainless definitely looks better and I've never had an issue with excessive dirt or dust in my airbox, i have however heard that having a front facing snorkel can suck up a lot more dust, but that doesn't matter because you can turn the head around.
Great video. I ran a safari snorkel on my disco 2 then stuck with plastic for my disco 3. They're ideal for over here in the UK. In the summer have it facing forward then turn it around in the winter to help prevent all the road spray and rocksalt from being sucked in as much
Got the Safari snorkel to. It’s made by a big company that puts proper engineered RnD in to its product. The forward facing Ram head is proven and has had a big company behind it for many many years without significant change.
Small companies or back yard jobs is an eBay type risk in my opinion. Sure some might be ok. But not worth the risk and they look a bit.
Also, maybe stainless can take a hit, but I’d prefer a snorkel to be reasonably sacrificial so the force isn’t transferred in to the body causing worse more expensive damage.
I built a 4" stainless for my gq facing rearward and tested for 20 mins in heavy rain (not much of a problem in ausie as you don't get so much proper rain) and got 300ml of water in airbox because water travels along the outside to the end and gets sucked in with airflow. 4" safari plastic head and a coat of raptor and problem solved. Can still face over screen or backwards so trees and scrub don't smash it off. 30 degrees egt reduction also over old design safari plastic straw at open road speed shows far better flow. On the 80 I agree with your choice...
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I mean stainless steel would be my choose but it’s your 4wd and you can do anything with it and I am happy how your 4wd is like working up and getting built .LOVE YOUR CHANNEL:)
Thanks mate!! that's it!!
Have snorkels on all our off road vehicles, but everyone seems to think it's for water. Trust me that 2x4 isn't getting across most mud puddles. We have them installed because of dust keeps the air intake above the dust line especially in convoy
In the rain you can turn the head 180 degrees to stop water ingress. You can go the same and put a sock on it in the dust to help there. I'll be going plastic when I put a snorkel my car soon as it's much cheaper. Keep up the good work
Safari all the way mate. They are solid bro , and quality , won’t even fade after years. U made the right decision.
@16:20 Best-o-lucking conversing with those rivers lol 🤣😂🤣
Well that’s never gunna fly on Instagram! 😂
Well done mate, can’t go wrong with Safari👍🏻
I've had both never got water or sticks down either now the one major benefit of stainless snorkels and why most comp trucks run them is water ingress on bog holes or water crossing the down side of stainless snorkels is you either have a massive hole cut in you guard or they hang out and the bigger you go the bigger the bigger the hole or more they hang out the flip side plastic snorkels are molded to shape around your guard so they look neater
And by far the best snorkel head is the cyclonic factory Toyota one
black matches the trim, bars and roof. The Safari seems a perfect choice. Interested to know what happens to the ingested rain? Great chennel.
I went Safari on the GU and eventually ended up going to a Millweld Ram head 4" and felt a benefit straight away - what informed the decision in my case is that the safari inner guard peice narrows right down restricting the flow of course i went the powder coat black on the GU haha.
Yeah definitely think a big stainless is right in some applications as you say !
My thoughts exactly as well!! I've been waiting for the snorkel install for ages and I knew you'd go the plastic haha. Nothing wrong with a staino at all either way you go there is no wrong decision!! I love the old school look and the cruiser has come along so far its looking so good mate!! Now you just need some indicator lights for that bullbar 😂 Another great video boys keep killing it 🤘
Thanks Joe!! really appreciate it mate! yeah i love the way it turned out! really happy with it! Thanks Joe!
I went Safari (Plastic) on my GU Patrol and glad I did, just for the aesthetics. The noise was noticeable when I first got it, but after a while, you get not to notice it. Good choice
Did you keep your bazooka pipe on your car or changed it out with the muffler
Another great clip very informative with the info I needed to make my choice had safari in the past and highly recommend them and I also dig the factory look even though the stainless may be tougher and less restriction on the bends ,keep up the great work /vids fellas 👍
Had a 3.5inch snorkel on my isuzu bighorn, facing straight up. The factory airbox had a 1way rubber valve that would drain the water out. Never had any issues after a big rain storm.
only so much air can be held in the snorkel at once anyway so that means a facing forward snorkel will not increase air intake or make more power but still good choice looks better than a stano
Good choice, I run an Safari Armax on 105 👍 But running a Stainless on 60 series with 12HT, which is on passenger side, and man does it suck/noisy !
I've got stainless only because plastic 4" was not available. I painted it black and fitted a ram head to make it look less modified. I'd defiantly go plastic over stainless if a quality Safari was available. Better look and less weight.
Marty from Perth
I like the look of the Safari snorkels over the stainless pipe . For me stainless pipe was cheap and easy to knock up in the shed in a couple of hours and that was the attraction in the beginning , the cost not performance
My staino has a one way Donaldson vacuator valve in it to let all the water escape
I live in south west wa. Its a verry wet place here rains 80% of our year. I ended up changing from a safari to stainless as I found the ram head turned into a shovel in the rain and filled my airbox more in a average morning trip to work then my staino does in a month 👍. However I do now run a uni filter on my stainless for the big pudles that send water well over the roof and random debris finding its way to the airbox
Also I found the plastic snorkel vibrates slightly at full boost. And makes a really annoying fart of a noise
Plastic is just better and stainless just adds wank factor🤣
In my country, you can only homologate a plastic snorkel. And even if stainless steel could be homologated, I would still choose plastic, because of the more classic look.
I also have a Safari snorkel on my patrol and I am completely satisfied with it.
As for rivers crossing - your next mod should be to raise the diff (and all others) breathers ;)
i bought the $120 ocam snorkel, been puttimg it off fitting it, after seeing your video, i change my mind and safari is the go. great video.
Who knew that a year ago you would be foreshadowing Liam's snorkel on the Patrol 😂
I also have more of a touring rig so the plastic was the way to go to save on weight as well, 4wds get heavey with mods so even a couple kg here and there helps, once i upgraded my air filter to the ryco performance foam filter i got more induction noise and basicly no dust past the filter defiantly worth doing to
You made the smartest choice by far. 👍
Should do a meetup in the high country
I have a 3 inch stainless snorkel on my patrol Facing back doesn’t have a vent on it straight open I use to park under a tree in my drive way use to be covered in leaves all the time every time I use to service it or knew I was going out on big drives I would check my air filter cause it would suck in leaves an could notice a difference up hills
I run a 3” stainless on a td daily and have had no issues this far. Yes water does get trapped in the airbox during storms, so good to have a decent setup.
I have a 4” stainless on my td comp truck that runs a custom ram head and that’s the best setup I’ve seen. Insane amount of power increase just from increasing 1” pipe size. It does need a slightly bigger turbo to utilise the air
Air ram snorkels just look right, if it were a stainless with air ram head that would also be cool.
Yeah I talk about this option at the end of the video!
Plastic Safari snorkels have been engineered and around for a long time. I’ve seen the pretty staino ones drink water in heavy rain. Been using plastic Safaris for over 20 years and never had any problem.
Mate I just put a plastic snorkel on my ln106 for the same reasons and if you want ya snorkel to face backwards just simply turn the head around
It’s funny how he talks about the looks of potentially been a factory option, cuz I was looking at my snorkel for my px2 ranger for the same reasonings. Settled for a Ironman 3” snorkel which does look like from factory. Stano yeah it sound better but been a passenger to a 4” stano, on a “06 courier, damn it gets annoying long enough to wind the window up (yes the airbox for them is on the passenger side not the driver).
100% agree. I would hate to hear the induction noise from a staino, I drive a 70 series and have more than enough noise as it is. Thanks for the content. Cheers
Could be wrong but the air pressure being sucked by a turbo is going to be more than the pressure being forced down the snorkel even at 100km, maybe if it was na would make a difference between forward facing and backward facing?
If your worried about dust you could get the spinner head for them and I know they are effective. Also I think the ram head will let water in in heavy rain driving. I have had heavy rain stop my hzj75 with a spinner head on the snorkel and fill the air filter. Keep up the vids 👍🏼
Could always just loosen the hose clamp and turn the snorkel head around, will still run exactly the same. I do it for mine when hitting big holes so no water splashes up.
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I have a safari snorkel on my surf and with a supercharger on the diesel there is definitely induction noise...haha
Your choice entirely on the snorkel Patrick ! but a couple of comments you made. 1 ) the rain or snow , wouldn't you be ramming them in when you're driving?
2 ) leaves and dirt on your roof , wouldn't they be blowing backwards when you're driving?
If you want it noisy, swap the ram head for the clear pre-cleaner head. Scared shit out of me first time I experienced one. You WILL hear it😁
I've had a plastic factory snorkel on my Gu patrol for years when I put It on I just made sure I sealed it well and it's been drowned so on and it's always sealed good and been good just cons when it starts fading.... I got a staino snorkel and after market airbox fordged fabrications did for me drowned it a few times seals well and never had the issue with rain going into the airbox I think it's because the way he built the snorkel not to catch the rain performance wise it works great its deffintaly better cons the noise 🤣 but apart from that I'm not bios on it all plastic ones have worked for many of years on a factory airbox
Only thing it’s missing is a windscreen banner!
I've got a 80 series with a safari on and I turn mine backwards to stop rain which we get a lot of here in nz getting rammed into my cold air box cheers Buck
I don’t get any water in my staino if it rains but I do when I wash it
The thing I like about plastic snorkels is you can change the heads.
Ram or cyclonic. Cyclonic is nice for rain and dust.
The Safari snorkel looks very good on the 80.
Cyclone looks grandpa but functions better than all apparently
I’ve personally gone with both plastic and stainless but with an 80 series they do look really good with a plastic snorkel. Any other older style wagon fourby I wouldn’t say so
Do you have a link to your dash cam setup? It looks great!
Rear facing snorkels put slightly more strain on your engine as it has to suck air against the natural passing flow its basic physics, even confirmed this with a tjm manager telling my friend and i they are garbage and its just a stupid trend. Ram head snorkels are the go.
grandpa spec is a win
N70 hilux stock airboxes have factory water drain holes in it
I was thinking a 4" stainless with a 4" ramhead
Stainless looks great but the price an lot people change the air box an more money and Cop bait .Plastic fantasy is great I got that on my Gu when I got it an if not broken why fix does the trick. Good job on the videos guys love the work👍
100% agree on the aesthetics, stainless look a lot better on utes rather than wagons imo, and if going on a wagon it has to compliment other mods to not be so jarring
Looks good. Now you can “traverse rivers”
Only thing with a ram head (and this is more for modern cars) is that they can in fact cause over boosting causing the car to shut down but like you said they are a lot quieter
Would never have considered a plastic snorkel until I saw this video. Definitely making me reassess
Great video 👍👍
Trust me, having a rear facing snorkel, the sound never gets annoying 😂
Hahaha im sure its good!
Personal preference I went stainless snorkel and air box 😅 but my pig is built as a weekend worrier. But unfortunately I have been using it as a daily 😕 and you get over the induction noise quickly and as for water in the stainless doesn't seem to be a problem for me.... but in saying a plastic snorkel is a good option especially if daily driving
I've tested forward & backward Ram heads vs stainless backward type inlet, using a manometer (sensitive pressure gauge)
There's next to no difference between facing a Ram head backward and forward, pressure or performance wise.
The issue with "stainless snorkels" is the shape of the inlet and the distance of the opening in relation to the bend.
If the body of the snorkel is restricting flow, go for a stainless snokel with a proper ram head.
Hey boy when are you going to a trip with 4wd 247
Stainless will dent. Plastic will bend & pop back
Yes you did, no question mark in the thumbnail.
It never gets annoying, Trust haha
Did you raise your breathers as well if so do you have video on that
You guys may have made a precious video about it , but do you have diff breathers? Would definitely recommend diff breathers before doing anything in water even with a snorkel
I recon next thing for the 80 is a different bull bar, the car looks awesome and the bullbar sorta spoils the look