Classic battle between the X-Men (X-Ecutioners-NY) Vs. the Invisibl Skratch Piklz (CA). Roc Raida (RIP), Rob Swift & Mista Sinista Vs. Q-Bert, Mixmaster Mike & Shortkut.
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This is why the DJ will forever be the first hip hop artist and producer period!
these two groups embody what turntablism is.there is no winner or loser they both excel the art form to higher levels. technical skill and showmanship.
17 years later and people are still arguing about this. This is the essense of modern day turntablism. The blueprint to the entire game. ISP vs XMEN. FOREVER!
ISP was on another level! X men were better at throwing middle fingers and pointing at the vinyl on cue. Technique wise it isn't even close, that's how advanced the piklz were.
I remember Rob claimed to be the first person to loop a beat with a sticker, but a UK DJ called DJ Reckless actually did it in '91, at the UK DMC Final.
@@DjNikGnashers you realize all the old DJs you probably admire use digital right ? Everyone from Jazzy Jeff to Flash. Ya'll just old, bitter and jealous.
@@devote I'm 50 years old, and got my first set of turntables aged 11 in 1980. I now use a DDJ SX2 controller. I have an advanced national diploma in music technology, and still dj every week. I think I know more about 'old dj's' and DJ-ing in general than you ever will, so shut the fuck up.
Man, this shit is CRAZY! They don't make many DJ's like this! Especially not these days!! At 1st I was like "Roc Raida (R.I.P) fucked that shit up" & then I was like "Ooooh dats tight! I think Q-Bert might just have done him" (watching it back I think Raida took it) Then Mix Master Mike steps up FUCKIN' POSESSED & tryin' to CONTACT ALIENS & completely TEARS DAT SHIT DOWN!!!!! Fuckin' love it! Shouts to Rob Swift, Mista Sinista & Short Kut respectively, u done ur ting but U KNOW!
^^^^ Word. This battle was really an exhibition of the two most dominant methods of using the turntable as an instrument. The Scratch side uses the manipulation of pitch (through the record) and the absense of sound (through the crossfader) to "play" the turntable, similar in theory to a trumpet player. The juggle side uses the beats and sounds provided by two copies of the same record to reconstruct an existing song into a new one. Both methods have their intricacies, and neither is necessarily easier than the other. In a world where Boxers duck other great boxers until they're old and washed up, and basketball players hop from team to team, depending on who's best at the time, we are incredibly lucky to see the two greatest groups of practictioners of both styles battle each other.
Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, you need take ur homeboys off the crack.
Nothing but legends on that stage and a sincere R.I.P. to Roc Raida, but there is a very good reason why only Mixmaster Mike went on to a career as a show DJ with the Beastie Boys. He was the funkiest, most party-rocking focused DJ out of both those crews.
when i first saw this in late nineties I thought the piklz won but 15 years later I think xmen got it..no debatin....roc raida routine at start was nutty
Its like 2 different schools of DJ'ing battling... Both are amazing. ISP is sick, Q Bert rocks shit hard, but then rob swift comes in with a TOTALLY different vibe all smooth and downtempo. Sometimes insanely fast scratching ala Qbert is sick, and sometimes just laid back juggles are sick. This video just kicks ass all around, theres no debate.
Absolutely! Well said; two different styles. X-Men are juggling/timing what's ON the record, while ISP are massively physically manipulating the records themselves into instruments. Either way, it's hella sick-ass sh@t!! VERY hard to call
Whats the break at 10:11 ?? MMM sounding like he quantum leaped into 10th dimension and warped the wormhole on his way and simply mindfucked turntablism forever. qbert advanced on mike's skills on a technical level while mike truly stayed uniquely extraterrestrial
Roc raida and the rest of the executioners were absolutely terrible at scratching and it was almost embarrassing to watch. They were gods that beat juggling but that's it. They honestly should have just not scratched at all when they came to these competitions. ISP were insanely good at scratching and way ahead of their time, and we're also decent at be juggling ISP was better at be juggling than executioners were at scratching.
Thank you @djreal for posting these. I remember seeing a bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of this back in ‘97 and having my fucking mind blown. This shit takes me back.
THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE NIGGA....THIS IS CALLED REAL HIP HOP!!!! All u fake lil bustas dont knowing shit. There was a time where there was no YT and niggas had to practice and be patient about their skills. THX 4 sharing this piece of History of our lifestyle
I appreciate everyone here, but Round One? DEFINITELY Q. And Round Two? Closer, but Mixmaster Mike. Team X-Men spent more time tryna old school MC distrack (did every X *really* need to flip the bird, too?) than showcasing their actual skills in the general sense. True, X-Men were clever with some of their cuts, but by comparison, Q-bert and Mixmaster Mike put on master classes showing they had the technical skills to rise above and shine, instead trying to insult their counterparts and 'front on 'em.
that joke is as corny as the fingered her and she died joke...... whats worst is every DJ in this video uses a laptop now except roc raida... R.I.P. roc
God, the old vinyl vs serato bullshit.. anyway. As far as making your own shit serato is better, vinyl is just nostalgic its alot better in some respects but as far as travelling and going to gigs serato is easier...
marvin s good point x men showed more skills qbert is good but he scarches to much
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it's very self centered , technical, do you notice he favors his right side, to this day not good with the traditional left to right grooves of both turntables. He's great and hella innovative.. but it's more noise factor for sure.
This was a classic battle. This demonstrates that while most DJs were playing checkers, ISP was playing chess. Their style is incomparable and transcended DJing as it was known at the time.
Never said I was an expert... But I've been around the Bay Area hip hop/DJ scene for a minute... Ain't gonna name drop cuz that's not my style but as far as I'm concerned, the Bay Area DJ scene's impact speaks for itself, no matter what you think... So again, the truth hurts... Keep lovin Las Vegas and hatin on my opinions and I'll keep sayin ISP won that battle hands down.
Does anyone remember this battle being written about in any magazines? I recently found an article about it in an old magazine that I found on ebay, but it's the only one I've ever seen - and I was buying 4 or 5 Hip hop/DJ magazines a month, back in '96. I've also never seen a single magazine article about the old New Music Seminar/Supremacy battle. Does anyone know of any that I can try and find on ebay?
Mix master mike one of my favorite DJ not from this planet this dude n DJ qbert inspire me to become a turntablism back in the 90 n the x men too but mix master mike is crazy word up not from this planet 😁👍😎
This is why the DJ will forever be the first hip hop artist and producer period!
let em know son!
these two groups embody what turntablism is.there is no winner or loser they both excel the art form to higher levels. technical skill and showmanship.
17 years later and people are still arguing about this. This is the essense of modern day turntablism. The blueprint to the entire game. ISP vs XMEN. FOREVER!
This comment still is true
@@Lalovision3D 24 years later. yes.
ISP was on another level! X men were better at throwing middle fingers and pointing at the vinyl on cue. Technique wise it isn't even close, that's how advanced the piklz were.
Rob Swift Made a Got Damn BEAT on these dudes.
+Denzel Adams so musical
I remember Rob claimed to be the first person to loop a beat with a sticker, but a UK DJ called DJ Reckless actually did it in '91, at the UK DMC Final.
@@j-boogiebrown9961 I know for a fact people had done that in the late 80’s
But upon closer inspection... (Just finished watching...) Mixmaster Mike kills it on the style. No question :D
Legend...RIP ROC
Goddamn Mix Master Mike murders this!!
Using Rob swifts record.. he murdered Rob with Rob's own record of Rob djing 😂😂😂
Wow so many legends on the stage !!! They pushed each others innovativeness & creativity which made them the best in the world and the art form !!!
The title of this video should be "Why every data DJ is a fake"...
Why on every DJ video do we have to bring this up ? Just enjoy or move on.
@@devote Because it's true ?
@@DjNikGnashers you realize all the old DJs you probably admire use digital right ? Everyone from Jazzy Jeff to Flash. Ya'll just old, bitter and jealous.
@@devote I'm 50 years old, and got my first set of turntables aged 11 in 1980. I now use a DDJ SX2 controller. I have an advanced national diploma in music technology, and still dj every week. I think I know more about 'old dj's' and DJ-ing in general than you ever will, so shut the fuck up.
@@DjNikGnashers if you use a ddj sx2 why are you disagreeing with me ? Are you confused old man.
Man, this shit is CRAZY! They don't make many DJ's like this! Especially not these days!! At 1st I was like "Roc Raida (R.I.P) fucked that shit up" & then I was like "Ooooh dats tight! I think Q-Bert might just have done him" (watching it back I think Raida took it) Then Mix Master Mike steps up FUCKIN' POSESSED & tryin' to CONTACT ALIENS & completely TEARS DAT SHIT DOWN!!!!! Fuckin' love it! Shouts to Rob Swift, Mista Sinista & Short Kut respectively, u done ur ting but U KNOW!
Thanks for posting. Mix Master Mike was sick.
The Xmen seem to value exhibitionism, while ISP is more focused on innovation through their instruments.
^^^^ Word.
This battle was really an exhibition of the two most dominant methods of using the turntable as an instrument.
The Scratch side uses the manipulation of pitch (through the record) and the absense of sound (through the crossfader) to "play" the turntable, similar in theory to a trumpet player.
The juggle side uses the beats and sounds provided by two copies of the same record to reconstruct an existing song into a new one.
Both methods have their intricacies, and neither is necessarily easier than the other. In a world where Boxers duck other great boxers until they're old and washed up, and basketball players hop from team to team, depending on who's best at the time, we are incredibly lucky to see the two greatest groups of practictioners of both styles battle each other.
"Groove-locking buttons"? You mean they now have button that do what DJs used to do with stickers?
When i first saw QBert do the ‘Rock The Bells’ routine-it changed my life. Seminal routine.
Mike is so sick!!!
was that crazy legz behind Q ?
CLASSIC X MEN ALL DAY
Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, Instead of tryin to take out ROB SWIFT, you need take ur homeboys off the crack.
Zee Dee it’s my favorite part of Rob Swift’s scratchin routine in the battle with ISP. It was said on the video.
@Zee Dee no problem, it's cool.
The Xmen and ISP are why turntablism became what it did.WE dont have crews reppin' like this any more.
Xmen destruction ! flow, hip hop ! ...... .... & 20 years on XMEN still look hip hop,,
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The truth hurts... ISP was ahead of their time and ever evolving... X-Men's tricks and brash attitude was played out...
Yes.
ISP were always innovating, technologically as well with pressing sealed breaks (skipproof) on the vinyl.
without djs. there is no rap n dancing and graffiti eh
Nothing but legends on that stage and a sincere R.I.P. to Roc Raida, but there is a very good reason why only Mixmaster Mike went on to a career as a show DJ with the Beastie Boys. He was the funkiest, most party-rocking focused DJ out of both those crews.
Mixmaster killed itby himself
Mike...... fucking hell.
That Rob Swift Routine from 5:32min is so smooth and clean,make me bounce everytime i hear it!!!!
when i first saw this in late nineties I thought the piklz won but 15 years later I think xmen got it..no debatin....roc raida routine at start was nutty
Rob swift puts it piklez won team x men took solo and yeah I agree
Individually Xmen win. Team wise ISP win
Greatest battle ever, but dam mmm, at the time was on fire, sicker then qbert.
And thats when the east coast embraced skratching wiith open arms.
Its like 2 different schools of DJ'ing battling... Both are amazing. ISP is sick, Q Bert rocks shit hard, but then rob swift comes in with a TOTALLY different vibe all smooth and downtempo. Sometimes insanely fast scratching ala Qbert is sick, and sometimes just laid back juggles are sick. This video just kicks ass all around, theres no debate.
Absolutely! Well said; two different styles. X-Men are juggling/timing what's ON the record, while ISP are massively physically manipulating the records themselves into instruments. Either way, it's hella sick-ass sh@t!! VERY hard to call
Whats the break at 10:11 ?? MMM sounding like he quantum leaped into 10th dimension and warped the wormhole on his way and simply mindfucked turntablism forever. qbert advanced on mike's skills on a technical level while mike truly stayed uniquely extraterrestrial
gjh gyjdg the original break is "shes about a mover" -roy head
Anyone know the break Mike uses at 10:11? Thanks in advance for your help!
These guys were cool. XMen all day, but if Jazzy Jeff was there...
It would have been a soul snatching event.
ISP
ROC RAIDA DID BODY TRICKS ALL THAT AND SCRATCH AND BEAT JUGGLE QBERT DIDNT HAVE OF THAT HE JUST SCRATCHED
Roc raida and the rest of the executioners were absolutely terrible at scratching and it was almost embarrassing to watch. They were gods that beat juggling but that's it. They honestly should have just not scratched at all when they came to these competitions. ISP were insanely good at scratching and way ahead of their time, and we're also decent at be juggling ISP was better at be juggling than executioners were at scratching.
None of the X men were anywhere near the same level of scratching as Q or Mike.
Mixmaster Mike was insane!!! Great!!
R.I.P. ROC! Me Likey this one. Two of my favorite dj bands going at it.
Rob Swift killed it...just so original
wtf what's Obama doing their ?
Jockin Q's beats, same as everyone else.
Lmao
Isn’t that Crazy Legs?
That's Crazy Legs
x-men are so much more hip hop than the i s p… more in the traditional spirit ;just saying
Q bert set was sloppy seen him do better
Isp were gods scratching. X were gods at juggling. Period
Richard (Q-bert) is and has always been way ahead..
OHHHH SHITTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!! THE BEST CLASSIC BABY !!!!!!
Roc Raida was Godly. Rest In Power.
Forget Com vs. Drake or these master of the mix dudes. These cats had the heart.
So gully! thank you RIP Raida
Big Pun in the back on the X-Men side?
two totally different styles, X men use a lot of juggles and what not to get at you....ISP are making faders bleed.
i was more into juggling and beat making
What's the name of the track at 6:27
Good Job ! :) Wait Part 2 ...!
My hero’s when I was a teenager in the 90s. Why does Qbert look the same today as he did in this video?
pun's cousin in the background y'all
That Rock The Bells routine is still the best thing ever done on turntables.
I have heard QBERT doing better than that, though it is awesome, he can actually do even BETTER than that. Same era recording.
Thank you @djreal for posting these. I remember seeing a bootleg of a bootleg of a bootleg of this back in ‘97 and having my fucking mind blown. This shit takes me back.
Yo you can’t go against mix master mike
THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE NIGGA....THIS IS CALLED REAL HIP HOP!!!! All u fake lil bustas dont knowing shit. There was a time where there was no YT and niggas had to practice and be patient about their skills. THX 4 sharing this piece of History of our lifestyle
I appreciate everyone here, but Round One?
DEFINITELY Q.
And Round Two?
Closer, but Mixmaster Mike.
Team X-Men spent more time tryna old school MC distrack (did every X *really* need to flip the bird, too?) than showcasing their actual skills in the general sense.
True, X-Men were clever with some of their cuts, but by comparison, Q-bert and Mixmaster Mike put on master classes showing they had the technical skills to rise above and shine, instead trying to insult their counterparts and 'front on 'em.
XMEN vs ISP will be like 2PAC vs BIGGIE. Neverending... That's #hiphop
that joke is as corny as the fingered her and she died joke...... whats worst is every DJ in this video uses a laptop now except roc raida... R.I.P. roc
Ave Mcree but it’s by choice! And Qbert is still the OG. Vinyl or not, fucking kills it
What's the beat Rob Swift was using at 5:36?
Scratching that Gangstarr is fire 💪💪
the guy next to the isp with the shaved head is crazy legs from the rock steady crew
They all killed it. 🔥🔥
God, the old vinyl vs serato bullshit.. anyway. As far as making your own shit serato is better, vinyl is just nostalgic its alot better in some respects but as far as travelling and going to gigs serato is easier...
X Men killed it!!!
Wow! Thats raw rite here yo!!...... 👍💪🙏😎
X men were dope I can't stand that straight scratching q Bert did.
marvin s good point x men showed more skills qbert is good but he scarches to much
it's very self centered , technical, do you notice he favors his right side, to this day not good with the traditional left to right grooves of both turntables. He's great and hella innovative.. but it's more noise factor for sure.
Steve D in the background wearing the superman T like a baawws
finally a video of the battle that doesnt look like crap. nice post!
RIP ROC RAIDER A GRANDMASTER ON THE WORLD OF TRUNTABLIST
12:40 that fucked my head up all up
+Nail The Namekian whats is name this last track ?
Craze got the biggest crowd hype at this battle
@DJ BONY JOE he was in the battle just not this part of the day this was the crew vs crew solos but he was in the solos and fucking killed it
@DJ BONY JOE look for craze itf 1996
This battle was the peak of turntablism.
ISP revolutionized turntablism at that time.
turntablism needs to come back.
Mike is legit alerts daddy lol
mix master mike killed it. ovb isp is better hands down
Nah X-men has it all day ... they were more versatile while ISP just scratched ... kinda got boring listening to isp
it's all good, but Q-Bert is obviously an alien
X-MEN AND INVISIBLE ALL GAWD DAMN DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was a classic battle. This demonstrates that while most DJs were playing checkers, ISP was playing chess. Their style is incomparable and transcended DJing as it was known at the time.
especially when isp has mix master mike!!!! dude is an alien....
ohxishxitsxdavid kt
Never said I was an expert... But I've been around the Bay Area hip hop/DJ scene for a minute... Ain't gonna name drop cuz that's not my style but as far as I'm concerned, the Bay Area DJ scene's impact speaks for itself, no matter what you think... So again, the truth hurts... Keep lovin Las Vegas and hatin on my opinions and I'll keep sayin ISP won that battle hands down.
mix master mike murdered it...
Tru Music Lighting Without a doubt!
that was epic...two different styles in deejaying in one place!!...Tuff!!
Anyone peep big pun in back of rob swift??
Mix master mike is like a X-men lol
Does anyone remember this battle being written about in any magazines? I recently found an article about it in an old magazine that I found on ebay, but it's the only one I've ever seen - and I was buying 4 or 5 Hip hop/DJ magazines a month, back in '96. I've also never seen a single magazine article about the old New Music Seminar/Supremacy battle. Does anyone know of any that I can try and find on ebay?
Is that crazy legs on the mic at the end ?
In for a treat rite here..... Respex, Big Upz, & Mad Love to all the devoted, dedicated, & passionate DJ's worldwide.....🔥💯👍💪🙏🎶🌎
Imagine battling qbert .
love q but roc killed it.
Mix master mike one of my favorite DJ not from this planet this dude n DJ qbert inspire me to become a turntablism back in the 90 n the x men too but mix master mike is crazy word up not from this planet 😁👍😎
A beautiful piece of history right here. Big up's DJ Real
The X Men won the battle in my opinion.... RIP Rock Raida
I wonder what the dj world would be like if Roc Raida was still living
..still fussing about who be the best..
Look mom, no laptop
SaidUno I was thinking the same thing 😂
lmao!
Mix. Master. Mike. All fucking day!
That guy behind MMM looks like CRAZY LEGS? (The Breaker)
HEAVYWEIGHTS.PERIOD.
R.I.P Roc Raida 🙅🏾♂️
Roc Raida Rob swift and mix master mike were the dopest
RIP TO ROC RAIDA 🙏🏼
dude look like pun in the cut
MMM FTW.