@SethWoodsYT if you’re worth 5 figures for anything you do then these kids are worth 6 figures for what they do. Not many people can perform their jobs. Don’t act like they are trash. They are more indispensable to their job/college than most Americans that make 6 figures
You’re not paying them anything. 99% of a coach’s salary comes from private boosters. Your tax dollars do, however, fund scholarships that amount to roughly $500,000 per individual football player. Use your brain.
it is fair for the athletes who generate revenue to be properly paid, what's wrong is unfettered access to university funds no salary cap no union no collective bargaining agreement it's a complete farce
This is exactly why they should have never allowed the influence of money to press down into college athletics. When they first began discussing the issue, I said it would be a Pandora’s box, now the lid is starting to open.
This is a slippery slope with Coaches promising players NIL money. They should steer clear of discussing money if its not going to be 100% paid to the player.
Treat NIL payments like financial disbursements fot scholarships and student loans. The coaches should submit their roster of players to the NIL or whomever for verification and financial disbursement to the University Student Financial or Administration Office who then distribute to the players.
College sports has been destroyed. This NIL stupidity has been the worst executed thing ever. Who really wants to watch this nonsense. A bunch of overpaid children.
@@Leo82870 The Supreme Court also decided Kelo v. City of New London. Just because the Supreme Court decides something, doesn't make it morally or ethically right.
@None-ef6nf your correlation is a strange one as I don't know how public usage and eminent domain applies to nil and labor law. What part of the Supreme Court decision do you disagree with?
@@Leo82870 I didn't say anything about the *content* of Kelo. My point is that SCOTUS makes legal decisions, not moral or ethical ones---or even ones that advance good public policy. Kelo is an example of a case that has been universally cited as a decision that did just the opposite. NCAA v. Alston will undoubtedly join the ranks of *Kelo* and *Citizens United* as examples of such decisions. Also, on a related note, there can be no debate that the frequency of "questionable" and even inexplicable rulings by sports officials at all levels has increased dramatically since Murphy v. NCAA was decided in 2018.
@None-ef6nf I don't understand and to suggest that within the historiography of SCOTUS that in all decisions morality and ethics hold no ground is a broad generalization. Surely NYT vs US and the Pentagon papers served an ethical as well as legal benefit upholding the integrity of the 1st Amendment. The incorporation of the 14th Amendment for newly freed slaves in the 19th century redefined personhood and negated the right to property for slave owners for the moral good. Certainly we can debate as to whether or not the Kelo decision was the correct one, I would suggest simply that Dillons rule allows for the local government to limit individual property rights. As to the argument concerning Alston the court was quite clear that the restrictions were a violation of the Sherman Anti Trust Act.
The coaches don’t pay the athletes. The booster club or collective pays the athletes. The Coach or the athletic department are not allowed to handle the money or promise any funding. The NCAA will roll in soon
This is what the NCAA gets. Instead of paying them directly, they didn’t want to lose control so they have their precious student athletes that aren’t employees, but a third party is paying which means you don’t have control. Greed ruined the relationship! These kids could have been making 50k a year from the school and would have been skipping but you had to offload responsibility and now it’s free market.
This is why college sports are not worth watching. It’s why so many coaches have had it. Allowing college kids to make money, 1:47 puts it in the same 😮 place as pro sports. Now with the gambling that saturates sports ,you will see more games fixed like in the NFL and NBA They get scholarships that amount to free education and that’s not enough?? Not to mention the transfer portal which was a horrendous idea. They commit to a school then say bye after a year, then say bye to the next school and so on. I believe that if they leave one school then there should be financial repercussions. They can make millions in college now so pay back that what you do not deserve. I oppose these full scholarships for athketes when intelligent non athlete students very rarely get all their college paid for unless they come under financial aid. These sports programs are way too wealthy. When you pay a college coach millions per year in college then it’s gotten to be a real loser in my book. Why watch? It’s not amateur sports , it’s now a paid training ground for the NFL and NBA. The crooked NFL and NBA When you have coaches players refs gambling on games , you have cheating to follow. College as well as professional sports, have been ruined.
Ruined for you the fan? US labor law and it's relationship to college athletics as well as the legality of gambling all have legal precedent and care not that you don't want to watch anymore 🙄. It is not about you. The same laws that now allow compensation within the free market for you now protect athletes for better or for worse
@@Leo82870funny thing is that the people that complain about NIL are the same people that’ll get mad at communist for their opinion on free market and capitalism. They dont want the athletes who are the reason they watch the game in the first place to participate in the business but say nothing about the schools and coaches that make millions off the athletes name. They’re all for the free market unless it’s young people getting paid millions just to be athletes
I think the players should have to hire agents the school shouldnt have to do the work for them it make them look like there buying the players which is illegal
Players were told that coach's business partners would be involved sounds 1990s College Boosters who paid or gifted players under the table nod nod wink wink to commit and play at various universities.
The players are going to lose because in very few cases NIL money is never put on paper and signed for. 95% of the time it is just a verbal amount agreed upon.
@Paul-b5n7x So they should work harder and more - than non athletes and keep the same gpa and their college should make millions off their own talents... for the same degree you will get. Or I have an idea.. all talented athletes should go pro from HS..... and colleges goes back to having games without making millions - no tv deals - nothing Players gets nothing Schools gets nothing
College basketball is just an illusion anymore. Transfers and money contracts it’s simply a minor league for the pros. If college football and basketball could just be about athletics and education and not charging much for TV or tickets there wouldn’t be this mess. And every day folks could afford to watch. But it’s all about greed and getting the most you can off of people. In that environment then yes players should get their fair share. But I’d rather not everything be about profits.
Mannnnn i got no pity. Mfs hoop in college and that’s a 2 semester sport… FSU is 38k a year. They didn’t even make the tourney. Go to class, They will be alright.
Oh they are NOT getting into TOP Universities and a free education, most wouldn't even have that chance if not for playing ball, give me a break, I wouldn't give them one dime, go pro if you think you are that good, we still will make money with or without you..
@andrejohnson1703 The colleges in NFL colluded, so they make money on the kids before they go pro, and yes, they were at the top university struggling to eat while everyone else got paid off of them
Ah another person that thinks money is everywhere but just isnt handed out to everyone lol you should learn how much things cost before making more comments like this
Funny how we went from completely exploiting them to this. This system doesn't wanna see young athletes do well, it's always the bare minimum and we always figure out a way to turn it back on them.
The coach cant have no control over the NIL money.
Exactly I thought it was the school’s responsibility not the coaching staff
@dustyflair everyone has control over their mouth/lies they tell.
white avi / "can't have no" / 😂
There ain't nobody on FSU Basketball worth six figures lmao know your worth
tru 😂 😂
@SethWoodsYT if you’re worth 5 figures for anything you do then these kids are worth 6 figures for what they do. Not many people can perform their jobs. Don’t act like they are trash. They are more indispensable to their job/college than most Americans that make 6 figures
@@Trey-o2m no they are not...its basketball...and they certainly aren't good
@@Trey-o2m😂🤡🤡
@@Censoredftstry clowning hard you know he broke 😂😂
That the problem with money to play. Fun has left the game.
Well we shouldn’t be paying coaches these hefty salaries if you don’t want to pay the players.
You’re not paying them anything. 99% of a coach’s salary comes from private boosters. Your tax dollars do, however, fund scholarships that amount to roughly $500,000 per individual football player.
Use your brain.
Why should coaches be paid millions and players shouldn’t? Lmao
INDEED
@@ajohn502COLLEGE?
Go to school for free, free uniforms, free food, privileges nobody else gets and now asking for money. What a joke our society has become.
at this rate, little leaguers in the LLWS will start demanding payment.
it is fair for the athletes who generate revenue to be properly paid, what's wrong is unfettered access to university funds no salary cap no union no collective bargaining agreement it's a complete farce
Most school athletes are NOT on full scholarships. Performance used to earn scholarships.
This is exactly why they should have never allowed the influence of money to press down into college athletics. When they first began discussing the issue, I said it would be a Pandora’s box, now the lid is starting to open.
Pandora's NIL box is more trouble than it's worth.
This is a slippery slope with Coaches promising players NIL money. They should steer clear of discussing money if its not going to be 100% paid to the player.
Unless they have it in writing from a source that is authorized to make NIL payments (head coaches are likely not authorized) then they got nuthin'
This sucks that the coach took advantage of them like this.. FSU Basketball has always been pretty good, but this is bad news!
@@davidrobinson8 welcome to the nil world of college sports
Frivolous lawsuit!
If it’s not in writing or a recording I don’t think they will ever see the money.
Treat NIL payments like financial disbursements fot scholarships and student loans. The coaches should submit their roster of players to the NIL or whomever for verification and financial disbursement to the University Student Financial or Administration Office who then distribute to the players.
But that would be fair and make sense.
They really need to hard cap payments to $100 a week.
College sports has been destroyed. This NIL stupidity has been the worst executed thing ever. Who really wants to watch this nonsense. A bunch of overpaid children.
Yeah, the Supreme Court disagrees with your misplaced anger.🙄
@@Leo82870 The Supreme Court also decided Kelo v. City of New London.
Just because the Supreme Court decides something, doesn't make it morally or ethically right.
@None-ef6nf your correlation is a strange one as I don't know how public usage and eminent domain applies to nil and labor law. What part of the Supreme Court decision do you disagree with?
@@Leo82870 I didn't say anything about the *content* of Kelo.
My point is that SCOTUS makes legal decisions, not moral or ethical ones---or even ones that advance good public policy. Kelo is an example of a case that has been universally cited as a decision that did just the opposite.
NCAA v. Alston will undoubtedly join the ranks of *Kelo* and *Citizens United* as examples of such decisions.
Also, on a related note, there can be no debate that the frequency of "questionable" and even inexplicable rulings by sports officials at all levels has increased dramatically since Murphy v. NCAA was decided in 2018.
@None-ef6nf I don't understand and to suggest that within the historiography of SCOTUS that in all decisions morality and ethics hold no ground is a broad generalization. Surely NYT vs US and the Pentagon papers served an ethical as well as legal benefit upholding the integrity of the 1st Amendment. The incorporation of the 14th Amendment for newly freed slaves in the 19th century redefined personhood and negated the right to property for slave owners for the moral good. Certainly we can debate as to whether or not the Kelo decision was the correct one, I would suggest simply that Dillons rule allows for the local government to limit individual property rights. As to the argument concerning Alston the court was quite clear that the restrictions were a violation of the Sherman Anti Trust Act.
The coaches don’t pay the athletes. The booster club or collective pays the athletes. The Coach or the athletic department are not allowed to handle the money or promise any funding. The NCAA will roll in soon
NIL has ruined everything
Not my aunt Charlotte's oatmeal cookies.
Don’t pay these guys jack! Get your degree and join the workforce.
Kids got finessed, crazy
Those kids not even worth 2500 bucks.
This is what the NCAA gets. Instead of paying them directly, they didn’t want to lose control so they have their precious student athletes that aren’t employees, but a third party is paying which means you don’t have control. Greed ruined the relationship! These kids could have been making 50k a year from the school and would have been skipping but you had to offload responsibility and now it’s free market.
Imagine only going to FSU because you’re getting paid then not actually being paid to go to FSU 😂😂 🐊🐊
Crazy
Imagine going to UF and not being around women. Every month is Pride month in Gainesville.
When you perform like them they should be paying fsu to play there
@@SurferRC hahaha 😂 this
@@SurferRC They should pay back every penny. No such thing as a student athlete.
The players want money so they don’t have to work
Young’ns will learn through NIL deals that if it’s not in writing, it didn’t happen.
FSU has recruited very talented players. Recruiting this bunch? Pay you? Are you serious?
This is why college sports are not worth watching. It’s why so many coaches have had it. Allowing college kids to make money, 1:47 puts it in the same 😮 place as pro sports. Now with the gambling that saturates sports ,you will see more games fixed like in the NFL and NBA They get scholarships that amount to free education and that’s not enough?? Not to mention the transfer portal which was a horrendous idea. They commit to a school then say bye after a year, then say bye to the next school and so on. I believe that if they leave one school then there should be financial repercussions. They can make millions in college now so pay back that what you do not deserve. I oppose these full scholarships for athketes when intelligent non athlete students very rarely get all their college paid for unless they come under financial aid. These sports programs are way too wealthy. When you pay a college coach millions per year in college then it’s gotten to be a real loser in my book. Why watch? It’s not amateur sports , it’s now a paid training ground for the NFL and NBA. The crooked NFL and NBA When you have coaches players refs gambling on games , you have cheating to follow. College as well as professional sports, have been ruined.
Watch High school sports
Ruined for you the fan? US labor law and it's relationship to college athletics as well as the legality of gambling all have legal precedent and care not that you don't want to watch anymore 🙄. It is not about you. The same laws that now allow compensation within the free market for you now protect athletes for better or for worse
@@Leo82870funny thing is that the people that complain about NIL are the same people that’ll get mad at communist for their opinion on free market and capitalism. They dont want the athletes who are the reason they watch the game in the first place to participate in the business but say nothing about the schools and coaches that make millions off the athletes name. They’re all for the free market unless it’s young people getting paid millions just to be athletes
@Masteroogwayreturn01 that is a damn good point! Too often do people take the knee for all things capitalism with know alternative perspectives.
old man anthem... it aint tricking if you got it
I see $65k -$85k not $250k
No more college sportsmanship. It’s about the money now.
NIL and transfer portal have been horrible experiments
I think the players should have to hire agents the school shouldnt have to do the work for them it make them look like there buying the players which is illegal
why is a coach involved in nil money and why Fl st university getting that kind of money they not good
And so it begins.
Defrauding the players - to skim off the top.
Players were told that coach's business partners would be involved sounds 1990s College Boosters who paid or gifted players under the table nod nod wink wink to commit and play at various universities.
This is whyyy i neverrrr wanted college players to be paid !!!!!
Mmmmm
Who could not see this coming?
They should have to pay a jock take just as the pro do
The players are going to lose because in very few cases NIL money is never put on paper and signed for. 95% of the time it is just a verbal amount agreed upon.
72% or all statistics are made up
Can’t believe we are paying college athletes.
Why?
@ why should we?they are there for an education sports come next.
@Paul-b5n7x So they should work harder and more - than non athletes and keep the same gpa and their college should make millions off their own talents... for the same degree you will get. Or I have an idea.. all talented athletes should go pro from HS..... and colleges goes back to having games without making millions - no tv deals - nothing
Players gets nothing
Schools gets nothing
College basketball is just an illusion anymore. Transfers and money contracts it’s simply a minor league for the pros. If college football and basketball could just be about athletics and education and not charging much for TV or tickets there wouldn’t be this mess. And every day folks could afford to watch. But it’s all about greed and getting the most you can off of people. In that environment then yes players should get their fair share. But I’d rather not everything be about profits.
Then leave America & our empire which is ALL ABOUT PROFIT 🤣
Mannnnn i got no pity. Mfs hoop in college and that’s a 2 semester sport… FSU is 38k a year. They didn’t even make the tourney. Go to class, They will be alright.
I find it very suspicious when people say that it was better when everyone else made the money except the kids‼️🚩
Oh they are NOT getting into TOP Universities and a free education, most wouldn't even have that chance if not for playing ball, give me a break, I wouldn't give them one dime, go pro if you think you are that good, we still will make money with or without you..
@andrejohnson1703 The colleges in NFL colluded, so they make money on the kids before they go pro, and yes, they were at the top university struggling to eat while everyone else got paid off of them
Ah another person that thinks money is everywhere but just isnt handed out to everyone lol you should learn how much things cost before making more comments like this
FSU isn’t a top university, they are doing FSU a favor by attending.
@@Chris_EEthey are so bad they should pay fsu though
This is college sports now
😂😂😂😂 They got stiffed Good luck getting that money gentlemen! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He kept the money!
Everyone should get paid. There is endless food at the tables
Nil has ruined ncaa sports
😂 u dont get payed if u was good u wouldn’t care you jus go to the league
Funny how we went from completely exploiting them to this. This system doesn't wanna see young athletes do well, it's always the bare minimum and we always figure out a way to turn it back on them.
Bwoy😩this got me in my feelings ❗️😡If y’all ninjas don’t pay them Brothers. Give the Brahs their money dawg🙄
If you promise a player something, follow through with it. Or don't promise them any money
If there on or were ever depicted in a video game, they can sue. People have been talking about this since the 90s I am certain.
I’m confused isn’t it the school‘s responsibility to pay out NIL deals?
No,Most come from Donors.
Then don’t make promise to this players to get them and not pay them.
Lol
Check his bank acct.... 💰🤑💸💰🤑💸💰🤑💸💰🤑💸💰🤑💸💰🤑💸💰🤑💸💰
Makes no sense. Coaches make 10's of millions off these players' backs. What's wrong with taking care of those who take care of you
It don't matter clowns-- yall better go back and read the NIL rules.