I toured Gardening in the North's new site, and pruned her trees
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- Lots of great discussion on pruning in this video, and a quick tour of Sherry's site over at Gardening in the North: / @gardeninginthenorth
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Mega chicken chalet 🤣 thank you so much for helping me with pruning. I’ve struggled to get everything done since I’ve been in a boot cast. It really takes a village to be successful ❤ omg, I laughed so hard at the kitty representing Trish. “Oh geez, but I’m not the expert” says Trish 😂 Poppy was checking your work, lol. Honestly, the growth that these tress have is amazing considering I only planted them last summer. Snip, snip, snip 😅 ❤
Can I just say that this video has been out for 2 minutes and has 12 upvotes. Whoever of you that support this channel like that are the true MVPs!! So much love, what a great community here ❤❤❤
Me! 🥰😉. Great video! S&D, your place looks fantastic. We will definitely need to pop by sometime this summer and check it out once your gardens are in full swing! Love it.
Sounds like my wife. "I know you're the expert, but what you need to do" lol.
😂 This totally reminded me of the first time I pruned my brother’s trees. The next year he saw the results of everything I’d done but he was a hot mess while I was doing it! 😂
My father in law did the same thing when I pruned his apple tree last year. 😂
Keith: "I'm not going to prune this one too much"
Trish: (breathes a huge sigh of relief)
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@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy quick question below
@CanadianPermacultureLegacy you said in a past video "
"We must know the why and benefit of what were doing and how soil works otherwise without knowing that then were acting from misinformation ignorance and hope"
Where does experimentation fit in? Having fun and experiementing is part of gardening as well for the home gardener. You seem very science minded which is fine but never forget to have fun too
@@anth115 Not Keith, but also a scientific type. Experimentation *is* a part of being science minded.
Just because books tell you X,Y,Z doesn't mean there is no room to play around. Books won't tell you about the microclimates in your yard/community. Books won't necessarily tell you what pests are most problematic in your particular area (esp. if they're coming over from your neighbors' gardens.)
If you watch Keith's channel long enough, you will seem him trying out different things. Some work great, others he specifically says he wouldn't do again.
I also like to play around in the garden. But my experiments are based on hypotheses--i.e. I start with what is known, and work from there.
Cheers!
~Dr. Robin
G'day Keith! Greatly enjoyed your fruit tree pruning tutorial of Sherry's "organised" food forest. My wife was also watching, and she could not believe how there are two of us in the world! It could easily have been us being filmed doing your demonstration...LOL! I particularly liked the comment from annburge291, on "Pruning aims are very context related." The climate here in Melbourne au, is essentially warm-temperate, but we get cold winters [-4C -10C] but in recent times also VERY hot summers [up to 43C but commonly 34C-38C].With open vase apple/pear tree pruning we get scorched/sunburnt branches and fruit. A denser canopy also helps to shade the ground for better water retention. For my pruning of these trees, I employ a "3D espalier concept", whereby I allow multiple leaders to grow around 5-6 ft tall to around 9 feet diameter. At the priority height [arm's length fruit access!] I prune just below a bud to "trick" the preferred under -bud to form a fruit spur as the tree's instinct to survive reads the" damaged" branch tip as a need to fruit! So far, the denser growth format has not negatively impacted the trees with disease or pest issues. I also maintain a healthy soil biome that I think greatly strengthens the trees resilience, 😀🍀💪😀
Very interesting!
15:06 "there, I'd leave it just like tha.." *SNIP* ''uh...'' hahaha that got me xD
I enjoyed watching the whole thought process as you went, and have now connected some dots with my past pruning mistakes.
thanks for the info and bit of a laugh! :D 🌿✌
Glad you enjoyed! It was pretty fun.
Great video! Thanks for sharing! It will greatly help me in the instruction of how to showcase my garden! Love the sibling commentary as well. Ha it’s funny that you are discussing cuttings while your sister is gasping 😂
oh Trish you took that sooo well lol i am a heavy pruner myself but warn her first lol had such a blast watching the different gardens.
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When I’m tying my limbs down I like to use a slip knot with a square knot bump stop. That way it leaves a large loop around the branch to prevent girdling as the branch grows and the slip knot allows for easy removal of the string the next year and it’s easy to reuse. Also I use orange high visibility twine so I can see it when I’m mowing. Just a few tips. I also find it amusing when people freak out over how much material is cut off the trees at this stage when you are pruning and shaping.
Great suggestions
Thank you thank you thank you. I finally got to understand the difference between pruning peach trees vs apple or pear trees. For the longest time I could not get the difference. Thank you, so wonderfully explained
Glad to help!
Poor sister in-law! She was speechless when keith was Pruning that cherry tree.
Oh that was my wife (her sister)
Completely agree with what you sad about why we prune the trees but I would also like to add. Most grafted trees are grafted to a dwarf rootstock meaning a smaller rootstock then what the top of the tree wants to grow into in order to have a healthy fruitful plant the above ground and below ground biomass needs to be in balance.😊
Great comment!
This makes so much sense! Thank you! If it wasn't raining right now, I'd be heading out with my pruning shears to check my pruning job earlier this Spring.
This finally brought it all together for me and tree trimming clicked. Thank you for that wonderful video.
Definitely read my responses to various comments in here, because I've added greater detail which may help further. Good luck! 👍
Thanks for the pruning tips 👍. I was worried that Sherry was gonna hurt you ! 😂😅
A great titorial.
Pruning is a very 'shocking' technique for the novice to watch for the first time, and I know plenty of gardeners who've never been able to do better than remove a few wispy twigs.
I was taught by a Buddhist monk (who somehow taught me more about gardening in 3 months than college did in 4 years) - and I remember being flabbergasted by the appearance of the trees by the time he'd finished pruning. But, by the following year, the transformation in fruit production was amazing.
Since that time, I've only messed up one tree (I liked the shape too much to begin pruning young - always the temptation to do that!)
The tree grew too tall, the branches too thick. Once I couldn't reach the bulk of the fruit any more (or it would drop on me - over ripe and along with half a dozen wasps attached), I began cutting back some of the thicker branches. However, I didn't finish the job and left the rest too long. It began to sprout again (a very vigorous Chinese Plum, lovely little fruit but grows like the wind) and it's now a very awkward thing to prune, the new growth caging in the old half-pruned branches.
I'm going to have to try again sometime, get it back into shape once and for all.
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Great video very helpful l watch it a few times you help my trees they need to be trimmed and Now they look good I planned them last year.
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Her reaction is funny. Most people do that. You did a good job even though she was nervous. I might have saved the root stock suckers and planted somewhere else to make new rootstock for future scion grafting.
I actually dug back a bit before and they didn't root really and were coming right out of the root ball, so I don't think these particular ones could be saved. I ended up cutting that out in editing. We took about 1.5 hours of footage, so a bunch needed to be cut. Great comment though, and I agree, these can be a great opportunity to get a new tree going and practice grafting onto it.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Cant you put the suckers cuttings in a bucket of growing medium and they'll root just like anything else? I usually put them somewhere in the shade or on the north side of a wall.
@KevinMichaelA Yes you vould do that with any of the pruning cuts, indeed.
Wow, what a fantastic demonstration on pruning fruit trees. It's too late in the season for me to do mine, however, I'll bookmark this for next year and get out and prune all of my young fruit trees. Keith, you were certainly the "bratty brother" here with terrorizing your sister with the pruning. Loved it!!
So I pruned my two young apple trees for the first time this year in early spring after watching multiple videos. It was terrifying at first, but then it got easier as I could see that it would benefit the tree. Actually learned a few new things from you in this video. I am trying to keep my standard sized trees small, so not sure how that is going to go after hearing what you had to say about it. They are blooming a little for the first time, so that is exciting anyways.
They will just respond with many many verticals, which you will have to fight each year if you try to maintain it shorter than it wants. It's not the end of the world, but every cut is a wound the tree has to compartmentalize. So fighting with a tree in this way can lead to a slightly shorter life, if disease gets into the tree before it seals it off. The reward however is more fruit, tastier fruit, and fruit where you can access it easily for picking.
Trish cracks me up 😂. Ok, now I need you to come back here and fix my pear and apple trees.
I may book him every year! 😂
Goodness I wish we were warm enough to grow lavender. The yard looks great! Thanks for the pruning video. I'm going to make my first attempt at grafting this year. Our old apple tree retired itself and there's lots of Ottawa #3 rootstock popping up so we decided we may as well graft on to them...
LMAO you will be fine Sister 😅
В северных краях, где морозы и снег, обрезка может привести к раку деревьев. У нас это ОЧЕНЬ распространено. У моего отца почти все яблони выпали через 30 лет. Хотя я понимаю, что приход косуль, оленей или лосей делает такую работу как обрезка веток. И вроде всё должно быть нормально. Но когда это делает человек, сады страдают от рака очень сильно. Возможно, прививка сильно ослабляет дерево, и "пахотное земледелие" аля газон и отсутствие мульчи, тоже влияют на здоровье деревьев. И они не могут бороться с грибковыми болезнями. По-этому у себя все вертикальные ветви, что ты отрезал, я отгибаю в стороны, и придаю дереву плакучую форму. Добра!:)
Love your comments Trish. In my part of the world, desert, I've found out the hard way to do the exact opposite of Keith's recommendations. If I open up the tree into a vase, the branches and trunk get sunburn and the tree will respond by sprouting in all directions to give itself shade. I've found that it's better to leave the trees to whizz up as high as they like (well out of reach of the neighbours escaping sheep). I then weigh the branches to bend them outwards because the tree wants to grow in on itself for protection against the winds. It takes longer, but in about seven years, the tree seems to have grown into a reasonable shape all by itself and gives me enough fruit without thinning. I even leave the watershoots throughout the winter as protection against rabbits. Pruning aims are very context related.
That's super interesting! I will be sure to mention that in future videos... what works well in colder humid climates may not work in hot dry ones.
I have a neighbour who is always extremely reluctant to prune virtually anything. It's a constant tussle to get him to understand that the trees, grapevines do better if they're pruned.
The result is almost jungle. 🙄
I remember explaining about pruning to a former neighbour about the value of pruning, she couldn't retain everything I was telling her, so she asked if I could prune it while she saw to her toddler.
When I finished and she came out to look at it, she was quite shocked, but admitted the following year that it had fruited better.
I generally walk about with a pair of secateurs all the time, always ready to prune something in anything but very frosty weather.
It's surprising just how much you miss - and then spot an extra crossing branch or two later on.
Peanuts Christmas tree until next season. Help in the future
Your pruning style is SO different than mine! You are quick and do a lot of heading cuts; I'm super slow and prefer thinning cuts. I also tend to go easy on young trees. I'm NOT saying you're doing it wrong, as I believe there can be different ways to ultimately optimize fruit production, but my heart was definitely in my throat watching this video! Interested in seeing a follow-up next season.
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I do heading cuts in areas I want to remove the Auxins in the tip of the branch, in order to promote lateral branching, and the creation of spurs for fruiting and future scaffolds. I choose this method more when pruning younger trees ( years 2-8 or so).
For larger more mature trees, who already have great shape, I then switch to a focus more on thinning cuts (removing entire branches for those who don't know what those terms mean). At this point in a trees life, it doesn't need more spurs, it just needs overall thinning and opening of light.
He did a great job, setting a young tree up for success. I'd rather sacrifice some fruit now for much more fruit in the future with less risk to the tree(cracking branches etc..).
What permaculture books or resources have you found most usefully, especially getting started? Thanks in advance
Permaculture One and Permaculture Designers manual were my intro books. I also really like mycelium running, all all Elain Inghams books.
Hi from Newfoundland,,We planted 12 apple trees last year, and this past winter, the moose ate 8 of the 10 trees, not a single branch left on them. But they never go after the cherry,peach or pears i wonder why??
I also know nothing so I'm w her until next yr 😢 The truth will b in the figgie pudding 😅
Anne of all trades had a pruning video, did you see that one? Because in there they talk about how opening up the middle can create a problematic lions tail. Any thoughts on that?
That has less to do with opening the middle and more to do with never creating spurs down low. That happens when you make too many thinning cuts and no heading cuts on laterals.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy thanks for the clarification. I really liked bith videos so I was interested in how they work together
Do you have a video about how to prune an espalier tree after a couple of years of growing?
Have you had any problems with Jumping worms in your area? Thinking of moving to New Hampshire in the future(Zone 6) and heard that there's a jumping worm problem in New England as a whole. I checked online and apparently Ontario does have them. Cheers!
Haven't noticed them yet, but I have my eye out for them
This is like in Pulp Fiction when they call in the Wolf.
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What is your plan for AMOC collapse which is happening right now? I'm in northern Europe and I'm not sure my trees can take it. Cherries will probably be fine but nut trees, hazels and pears. I'm not sure.
Plant a greater variety of trees, ajd hope that the diversity will lead to some surviving or even thriving. The adapt and adjust. Nothing else we can do.
Your wifes back seat pruning was driving me crazy, she kept you from properly pruning a few things with her comments. You know what your doing. Im glad you pruned those trees, they really needed it.
Edit (people need to learn to keep their emotions out of pruning.) Use reason science and experience.
It's okay, I can always go back and change it. I thought it was funny. And you can probably tell that I would still cut it if I thought it was the right decision. The one where she said something like "okay no more cuts" and I cut it immediately... we were laughing rewatching that 😆
@CanadianPermacultureLegacy yeah I get it. My wife back seat drives for me and I still do what I need to do 😂
I have heard people say the same things.
Sometimes it actually takes me up to 3 seasons to get a tree shaped properly. If it's a super odd tree and the only way to make it look right is to cut 50% off like if you have 2 really long leaders from the base, I'll often cut one of the leaders in half one year then remove the rest of the wood the following year and the 3rd year I I will true up the new leader. This way I can avoid taking too much off at once.
I really enjoy watching other experienced prunes and gardeners, if we keep an open mind we can learn something.
@Stewart7516 😆 🤣
you get used to pruning. We are doing what the deer might do for us
why is she telling him what to do ?
What brand of compost tumbler is that? Thanks!
I'm not sure, hopefully Sherry sees this to answer it.
Couldn't you turn those fruit tree suckers into more fruit trees instead of turning them into mulch????
I watch and learn but this procedure is painful.
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I can feel your camera person cringing
Want to let you know, I have been disappointed by your content lately.
You are one of the few creators without a vid on Drake vs Kendrick Lamar beef.
Guess it's just good ole permaculture tips.
😆 🤣 😂 I'm so out of touch with that stuff myself. Absolutely couldn't care less HAHA
There's also something about women preferring a bear over a man?
So out of the loop
Beef?
But Keith never talks about beef that I remember?
I think your comment must have slipped over from another video? (That's happened to me a few times, no idea how).