Rare Soviet Poljot Vintage Alarm Watch Restored Inside and Out
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- Today, I’m restoring a Soviet era alarm watch I picked up on eBay. The watch isn't running at all and the case is in rough shape. I intend to fully service the movement and restore the case by reshaping and replating it. I also demonstrate how this mechanical alarm watch works, and touch on a bit of the rich history of the Poljot brand of the First Moscow Watch Factory that was founded under order from Joseph Stalin.
The watch houses a 2612.1 caliber movement, which is a direct copy of the AS1475.
If you're looking for an incredible watch repair or antique restoration project, be sure to check out my video! I'll show you how to fix this vintage watch and get it back to working order.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:18 Disassembly
11:05 Cleaning
14:39 Assembly
31:30 Balance Installation
32:35 Reassembly Continues
33:30 How the Alarm Works
34:55 Complete Movement Assembly
36:06 Case Refinishing
38:21 History and Finishing Up
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Lovely job Chris and thanks for giving Soviet horology a fair shake. To everyone else out there in TH-cam land, I’m the Jake described at the end of the video. Going into watchmaking school is a real trip, and Soviet watches were my entrance to it. I suspect these pieces that not only tell the time, but of time itself were the entry for a great many new watchmakers too.
I wish you well on your journey, Jake. Sincerely hope you find your place in your chosen career.
Good luck Jake!
Thank you Jake and Chris. This video is a credit to you both. My journey began with mechanical Sekonda. I feel the love for this type of watch. I specialise in Slava 2427 automatic and 2427 hand wind which I alternate in weekly wearing. Learning so much from your video and comments. Again, thank you.
Great luck to you Jake! I'm 56 years old and self taught. I've been working on pocket watches and wrists, and it still amazes me when I get tools I've never seen, and movements. I love to see creative minds go to work.
I know nothing about watches but this has been a 40-minute well spent! This is the first time I saw how a mechanical watch works, incredible craftsmanship! The way you took it apart methodically helps me understand what's going on inside the watch.
Hi Chris, it's Chris here 😉 in 1989, when I was 9 yo, my uncle gave me the same watch. I scratch glass the same way like Yours. Few years ago I gave this watch to watchmaker in Racibórz in Poland, to repair it and the watch disapired. That man closed his workshop and i lost my watch. Maybe You bought it in Poland 😉 Greats and take care. Chris.
I personally love working on soviet watches. They really were used to death and not really taken care of, but will give you good results with a bit of TLC. The finishing always leaves something to be desired but that doesn't really make a watch work better or worse, just more machine time that the factories didn't want to spend. If you get a chance, I'd recommend snagging some Zarya women's watches as they tend to slip under the radar. They did good work and even had a 15mm movement with a seconds hand, as well as a family of 20mm movements that built on each other all the way up to a 30 jewel automatic with date.
I think Chris has plenty of Soviet watches, given the lot I donated to him shown at the end of the video. I agree with you though. Shame I didn’t have a Zaria womens watch to donate. I did have a men’s Zaria though with the caliber 2009 in it.
If he ever gets around to that donation, I think the Luch 1816 I included would be an interesting one. Automatic, actually in a women’s watch, and pretty much the only mechanical caliber family the Minsk Watch Factory ever produced itself vs building another Soviet factory’s design.
Beautiful work on the video. Any movement designer who replaces setting lever screws with buttons needs to be fondly remembered.
Nice work, the nickel plating of the case is also excellent. A few months ago I also did a service for this movement, it's always a satisfaction!
14:24 Art ! ❤
Great job! Thanks for sharing this helpful video!
Cheers from Russia! :-)
Great job.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video and share.
Very nice work on the watch! There are plenty of ways moisture can get in on these alarm watches. My 2612 had rust on the lid for the alarm. The lid was stuck to the dial and the dial foot screw was also rusted in place. I had to pry it off and the dial foot broke off. Everything worked on this watch. I was just doing a service on it. Good thing I disassembled it. I am going to try alum to dissolve the foot screw once I get it all apart.
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This is swiss Official Patent to USSR.
Thanks for the video.
Beautiful work.
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Very nicely restored! I mostly restore metal digital watches and also having no access to a lapping machine. My "tools" are fine emery paper and Scotchbrite for brush. Then as a substitute for Polywatch, I use toothpaste. I like my watches "mint". 😄
Young boy , again , brilliant work .
A bit surprised that you don't use an optical microscope. I had a digital microscope soon after starting this hobby. I found it of limited utility, basically for inspection. Couldn't work under it, even though there was adequate space. Looking at what I was doing on a monitor is harder for me to coordinate. Then I got an optical microscope. Huge difference. I can work under it and it makes servicing so much easier.
Great job my friend. 👍👍 excellent work on the case 😁 I can imagine the hours spent for those few minutes of footage 🤪 thank you 👏🏻👍
Very interesting video, and the quality was absolutely perfect, I love it. Thanks for sharing this one , it’s was so instructive. Happy to see that parts start from dirty as well to look brand new, and the final product look great !
Again thanks for sharing, I really enjoy to watching this !
Best regards !!
You have your self a unique and nice watch, the video was really interesting.
Excellent work, interesting watch, my impression with all this alarm watches is that the goal is more about making the caseback vibrate than the sound itself, then the vibration would alert the person wearing it or it would transmit on the surface the watch sits on giving a more audible sound
Another brilliant video with lots of really instructive comments! Thank you so much and: 👍👌👏! Sadly, I bought a couple of fascinating Soviet/Russian watches a couple of years ago, but can neither wear nor gift them to anybody. They are so out - and are going to be for at least some decades.
Why can you not wear a Soviet watch anymore? Allergic reaction to plated brass cases maybe?
@@jakekaywell5972 Simple: they were designed in the Soviet era, but built in modern Russia - 😊.
@@ygrbooks So the watches you have and cannot wear anymore read "Сделано в России" at the 6 o'clock position instead of "Сделано в СССР"?
@@jakekaywell5972 Exactly.
@@ygrbooks you probably also can't wear a watch with the inscription Made in the USA.
Great job! Soviet watches are a fascinating niche, I have been collecting them almost exclusively for the last few years, and cut my watchmaking teeth with them as well… my favorite Soviet movements to work on are the poljot 3017 and 3133 chronographs, but that automatic Slava in the center of your collection shot (the 2427) is a very nice one as well. Hope you consider making a video on that one!
Early 90s lost most good things than bad. But won a big heritage of ingeniuos!!!
Lovely video. Try adding sodium lauryl sulphate sometimes called sodium coco sulphate to your nickel plating solution, it will stop the formation of bubbles on the case during plating. Great video mate :)
Great tip! I’ll give that a try next time
You managed to find a very stylish Poljot watch too. Congratulations on a job well done!
Im fascinated by how this things are working and whom ever invented them and the evolution in technology evolved over time
Excellent video. Love the voice over commentary.
I have it. Gor it for my first communion. The alarm buz is great :)
Brilliant as ever, thanks CS
I love the homage to Prokofiev in the soundtrack.
Como adoro ver estos videos. Cada maquinaria es un mundo de ingenio analógico hermoso.
Sweet !!! Your Plating cases !!!! ive just started gathering the materials to do that !!!
Another awesome video Chris. I have 5 Votoks in my collection. 1 which I have restored myself. Really love a Russian watch. They are starting to become cult like classics if you ask me. This was a very cool restore. Thanks for sharing!
Soviet watches in my view made the absolute best of their humble materials. Inexpensive, but not cheap. Absolutely remarkable considering that the Soviet watchmaking industry had mere decades instead of the centuries that Western watchmaking nations had.
Chris, I hope you got that bit of red fuzz off of the plate that you see at 22:05! Last year, I worked on an Elgin with the AS model. Though it looked way out of my wheelhouse, it was relatively easy to work on. Seeing these videos are always great!
13:53 EXCELLENT BACKGROUND MUSIC CHOICE ❤
Very cool watch thank you for sharing
Isn't it beautiful that we can create life out of nothing more than metal and crystal?
Bir saatsever olarak terapi gibiydi.Teşekkürler paylaşımın için.
Absolutely amazing job and with each part explained in coherent and understandable way your videos are the best. There are a lot of watch restores on TH-cam but most if not all don’t explain much of the process. That, my friend set you apart and above them all. Thank you
Very nice work!!
Awesome job Chris, especially on the case. Most of us would be totally content with that outcome! 👍
great job, thank you cs!
Beautiful! Great work!!
Precision work dealing with crudely carved piece. Thanks for your time and skills.
Not crude as much as undecorated. The caliber here was a stellar one, coming from good Swiss stock.
Awesome video, CS!!!! You are the best !!!
I did learn a lot thank you
Amazing works
Great vid dude, thanks
Great job Chris, watch reminds me of the Seiko bell-matic.
Great job and quality video once again. I’m sure that lapping machine will be on your wish list.
Interesting to see the repair of something exotic :)
I have been told that Rolex at this time is putting people through their watch making school and giving $1800 a month to live on while they train you. You then work for them for 5 years to pay off the school and living expense, in other words they own your soul for 5 years. The school is in Dallas Tx. were In my 20s I would jump at this opportunity.
It does sound like a great opportunity and is a reflection of the shortage of watchmakers nowadays
I had considered this opportunity myself, but ultimately went with the other Dallas-based watchmaking school (run by the Richemont Group) even without a $1800/month stipend for two reasons:
1. The standard that Rolex uses for its watchmaking students, SATA, is recognized by Rolex and only Rolex. The Richemont Group school, in contrast, adheres to the internationally-recognized WOSTEP standard.
2. Upon graduation from the Rolex course, you would be sent out where they tell you to to an AD. In other words, not directly for Rolex. Upon my (hopeful) graduation from the WOSTEP program at Richemont, I’ll work directly for Richemont at the Richemont Technical Center for a minimum term of 3 years.
love you'er work😄
Some interesting facts: the word "poljot" (полет) means "flight" (J.Gagarin😉). This mechanism in several different housings was called "signal".
Отличная работа🙂👍
Salud desde Montevideo Uruguay , 9-5-2024 . Me cautivo ese trabajo .
Nice video bro
Good video
Lindo trabalho parabéns, Brésil
bravo !!! 😄👍
I have a watch with that same movement, just need to replace both mainsprings...
13:15 all rise for the Angry Grandpa (AGP) national anthem.
I had a Sovjet 24-hour dial submarine watch, back around 1986. It was a cheap copy so it broke fairly quickly, never the less I appreciated it during my student partying days/nights
Could you remember the marque of your Soviet submarine watch? Also, not surprised about the date. Thanks to Perestroika reforms, all Soviet watchmaking factories suffered a big QC hit. Contributed to the unfortunate shutdown of more than a few of these same factories, such as Poljot and Slava.
@@jakekaywell5972 Oh, it must have been a Raketa, black. A friend was visiting Moscow and I asked him to buy a submarine watch if he had some time over. He found one for like 10 dollars (1986 dollars) so surprisingly cheap
Now I remember. I sat at a café, whining about that there should be 24 hour watches because I needed one to keep better track of my life. My friend (who where a budding journalist with special interest Sovjet/Russia) informed that these things exists in Russia and are called submarine watches. So I asked him to get one the next time he would go there
@@jakekaywell5972 Raketa, black
Awesome to see another video from you. Excellent restoration so cool and unique with the 2 arbors . Glad to see you say , do svidaniya to the rust LOL. Thanks for showing that part. Btw I have a question , why not use breaking grease this time? How would one know if you need it or not? Thanks for the video.
Thanks! Braking grease is used on the mainspring barrel walls of an automatically winding watch. This allows the spring to slip around the walls properly. On a manual wind watch like this one, the spring is fixed to the wall and does not slide.
Very interesting thanks for the clarification. Thanks for the teaching moment and your awesome videos.
Great video comrade lol 😆
Outstanding takedown and repair. A pleasure to watch! One question though: which watch case opener tips did you use to open the case? I have a Poljot with the same case closing mechanism, and none of my watch openers have square pegs small enough to fit into the holes.
It was a cheap opener included in this kit. Watch Repair Kit, Eventronic... www.amazon.com/dp/B0714DJYLQ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
@@csspinner Wonderful; thank you!
Really good video. There were some issues with shadows by your hand at some points it'd be perfect if you can fix those too.
I have a similar microscope (mine is a Andonstar) and mounted it to a RODE PSA1 Microphone Boom Arm using a 3D printed bracket. When I want to take a photo during a disassembly, I pull the microscope down and it stays where I put it. I don't work under it, just use it to document where things go.
That’s a great idea! My 7” Andonstar I eventually rigged up to the lathe so I can get some nice close shots of that now. Also, for some lathe work it’s nice to just stare at the screen rather than hunch over with the loupe. Though like anything else, it only works for tasks that don’t require a depth of field to see
Really nice video. Good pacing, good info, great shots! And chapters. What a Chad. I do have a question: when I Evapo-rust parts, they come out bluish black, and yours were very nice and shiny. Did you fiberglass brush them after?
I leave them in just enough to dissolve the rust. Sometimes the polished surfaces blacken, but I used some 2000 grit to remove that layer and polished a bit
9:13 This part with three gears will conjure up a certain boss for those who have already played minecraft in their lives. If you understood the reference, let a comment 😁.
37:25 Not sure what the composition of that cylinder is, but Cratex makes rubberized abrasive points from small to large that'll fit on a Dremel in varying sizes, shapes and abrasiveness. Would mold around contours, etc.
Good to know. It’s just a cotton wheel charged with polishing compound
Since EvapiRust can be reused several times, that bottle of EvapoRust is going to last you forever.
Master work! Thank you the video! What chrono did you wear? I tried to slow and pause the video but the focus not on the watch 😭
It’s a vintage ‘40s NiceWatch (landeron 39). In fact it was repaired in my very first (cringeworthy!) video ever
У МЕНЯ БЫЛИ ЭТИ ЧАСЫ.ОЧЕНЬ ХОРОШИЕ.ТОЧНОСТЬ ХОДА.А. БУДИЛЬНИК ВООБЩЕ ЗВЕРЬ.
Love the narration, the history talk...
I am looking at local ads and there is the same watch for sale, somewhat better condition then yours was. This is one is supposedly running and alarm is working.
What's a good price for it?
Great work! It turned out really well. Which oilers are those? I'm not crazy about the flat tipped Bergeon ones I have been using. Seems like those more ball tipped ones would be better.
It’s the Horotec set. It’s got aluminum handles which is nice. I agree on the flat tip. I prefer these because they’re more rounded
Да...это не ,,ролекс,,...но они были доступны обычному рабочему по цене!😉
Do you happen to sell your modified mainspring winders?
Hello, nice video and a very surprising mechanism for architecture and precision ! very precise for a watch made in Ussr ! And I need your help , please - you made a video , I think , about a pocket watch , I hope I remember well, that had a jewel with a brass colette ! I cannot find that video can you help?Thank you !
You mean the one where I replaced a “rubbed in” jewel?
Yes I think, that one!
I have the same issue and I want to learn the technique from you !
Never saw something like that !
This is the video you’re thinking of then- th-cam.com/video/l7tLsEjodwA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=C4wc5t15sa8cjG29
I have around 50 soviet watches. Even ones that only generals could get, then i have one thats only was givsn to desants and other strange radioactive watches. All for sale
Nicely done, comrade.
new watch guy question. You let the fixodrop rub off before oiling on pallets?
Yes. At least run it for 15 minutes before oiling the pallets
The Russian composition during the cleaning machine run was a nice touch!
i have two of them but from the US in new condition
Did you do a video on how you modified the winders?
I didn’t. All I did was drill them out though to make the holes large enough to use any of the arbors in the set
@@csspinner Okay. Thanks. Did you have to mod the arbors? I know some have complained about the hooks not being that good.
@@brianwohlleben3182 I found if I use a big enough arbor the hook works. The issue is using a smaller arbor the spring doesn’t find it easily
My Russian watch story. I was with Pan Am in 1968 and went to Moscow. I thought a watch with Cyrillic characters would be a good souvenir so I went to the huge GUM Store (Russian equivalent to Macy's, Bloomingdale's and Saks 5th Ave combined) This was one of my many revelations about the "Mighty Russian Empire" that was supposedly moving so far ahead of us in education, space, military, nuclear power etc. that we were terrified of them. There were exactly THREE models of watch available. Any Rexall Drug Store in the US had dozens of watches for sale, and these three did not even come with a band. That was in a different department and were very scarce.There were very few private cars on the streets and were lines into all the meat, bakery, etc. shops with the same minimum stock of whatever they were selling. After establishing a relationship with some local people they told me that Moscow got the best of everything and people would do anything to get an internal passport that would allow them to go to Moscow. (I decided to pass on the watch idea)
cool story, lets see if mighty usa can make it to thirty five trillion dollars in debt by the end of the year
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THANK YOU so much for the super thanks! 🙏
Noisy cricket? I thought you had been visited by the Men in Black.
COULD YOU RESTORE A SEIKO BELLMATIC AS WELL??
There was a second pocket watch made by Longines and I lost it too.
Has anyone noticed how the watch case is made to look like those ana digi watches from 70s and 80s
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Interesting that it says 18 jewels in english
This being a model for export to the capitalist West is why. No mechanical difference between these and those built for the home markets of the Eastern Bloc.
были такие только с белым циферблатом
I'm dissapointed a bit because you haven't reproduced how this alarm sounds in the case, I guess it sounds more ringing after restoration.
I literally demonstrated this in the first minute
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Please make a video with Chaika 1301 (12 mm in diameter), 1601, The 11 jewels Slava Clock
The Chaika 1301 isn’t a noteworthy movement. Perhaps a better option would be the Luch 1816 I included in my donation as the only caliber family the Minsk Watch Factory actually produced itself vs building another Soviet watchmaking factory’s design.
@@jakekaywell5972 Try Slava 2427
@@MirceaD28 I agree. Luckily I did donate a Slava 2427 as well.
I wanted to hear the alarm?
The alarm sounds at least twice in the video. Once in the first minute, and again toward the end when I’m demonstrating how it technically works.
Who will support my revolutionary movement to socialize his watch collection and his tools? 👂👁👃👁👂
I socialized my collection already! No tools on hand though.
Maybe someone stored it deep inside for safe keeping. That’s how dirty that looks. 🤢
Is the alarm the Russian anthem?