Guys, I'm a Civil/Structural Professional Engineer and I have to tell you that you are doing this all wrong. See 'TheUnmercifulOne's comment below. You need to support the house as you dig, only exposing at one time a length of unsupported foundation that has been approved by a structural engineer. It looks like this video was posted quite awhile ago - I hope you're still alive to get the message.
The first wall you removed appears to be load bearing. The matching wall on the right has center supports running to support the ceiling from what I can see, so if the wall you removed was the same way, it was load bearing. The rear wall also appears to be load bearing for the floor and possibly the upper wall and roof support, even if it's not an outer wall. The roof joists need support that run down through the walls onto solid footing of the ground. People don't build walls like that if it isn't supporting something or holding something back. Even if you are correct that the wall is not load bearing, it's still just as dangerous to dig as you are. Each cinder block weighs 30ish pounds. 10 side by side such as your wall would be 300ish pounds. 10 wide by 5 rows high would be 1500ish pounds. Add the weight of the footer and morter and you're at at least 3000 pounds just by it's self. That's the weight of a car floating in the air inches from where you are digging. Imagine if you were under a car changing the oil and the jack stand broke letting the car land on your face. I'm not trying to break your stones, I just think you don't realize how on the edge of disaster you actually are.
My mate and I moved 250 tonnes of dirt and rock out from under his crawl space in a few months, the only machine we had was an electric jack hammer with spade attachment. We also used buckets but throw away the shovel and save your back, buy lots of good gloves get on your knees and scoop it up with your hands. As soon as 3 feet across of foundation is exposed pour concrete underpinning. Once concrete is set expose another 3 feet and repeat. This way formwork is only needed on the front not the sides. Think about drainage beforehand but remember every basement is going to leak a little bit unless you live in the desert.
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What did you guys put under the footing? I have a block wall with a footing that is just as wide as the block. Not sure how to dig down my basement 2'. Any suggestions?
I only dug out small sections at a time and poured a new cement wall and footing under the original. I did 8 inch thick walls with a regular sized footing at the bottom, I think they where 16 inches wide if I remember right. . The walls were 4 inches under the existing footing and 4 out.
You are removing the lateral strength of your footings and based upon what I seen in the video, they are not steel reinforced. If the dirt below them shifts (which it is prone to do) your foundation walls will collapse, pulling your house down on your heads. Immediately stop what you're doing and install temporary load brace wall(s) to shore it up.
if your going to spend that much time digging by hand & using buckets - set your self up an electric conveyer belt like a roof tiler . BTW . Dig down your new footings with post hole digger & set up your structural vertical pilons to support your floor beams... check out the computer controled mini excavator on utube some one set up .took 7 years but was effortless.👍
That was my response to a similar vid. They are pretty easy to make with so many Electric motors being thrown out with old wash machines/dryers etc. All you need is some wheels and bearing and probably strong Canvas.
So I'm prepping for a new video update on this project. I appreciate the advice, and concern.. Just for some info that was not explained in the video, this is not a load bearing wall, and it is not an outside wall to the house. It has been un-finished for over a year and not budged or cracked. That is why I have not supported it. My other walls will be load bearing and outside walls and I will definitely Support them as I go in smaller sections. Thank you all though for the comments and advice!!!
All I can say is you have the no 1 thing reqd to do this job: NO FEAR of hard work as well as no fear o trying something that rarely gets done anymore. I will say this kind of stuff was a reg occcurance where I am from (Souther On Canada) where there were many war time houses (no basements) and Hard Working Euro Immigrants stuck together and helped each other dig and create themselves a basement (which included a nice Root Cellar ie. Cantina
Worst and most dangerous way you could have done that project. It should have been underpinned every 4' as you went along. Or an on/off method such as digging a 3' section out then skipping the next 6' before digging the next 3' area so that the foundation would have sufficient support at all times. Good grief guys!
Anyone watching this vid. Don't start a project like this with the words "We have no idea what we're doing"!!! If you're a novice, go overboard on the safety side!!! God bless these very hard working young guys. This was soooo much work, and also very dangerous.
+Bonk It's true this is way to much work. I'm nearing the completion of having all the dirt removed and all walls cemented! I'll have a new vid. soon. I did have a lot of help from people who know much more than me and have learned a lot. :)
I was looking for info on how a basement dig out is done, you to look like a few friends having a chuckle and a laugh doing this at the expense of one of you, the home owner. This may not be the best approach. TheUnmercifullOne should be heeded. Not that I know anything but your job site looks prone to the problems he raises. Good luck with the project
make sure you talk to architect and get maps drawn and how you will support the house while u r digging. Must get permits or city will give you worst house. My comments are based on " you don't know what you are doing". Concrete has to be 3000 psi for foundation. It seems you will be under pinning. Anyways, good luck.
The house has a solid foundation. The beams and support was all left alone. We have only expanded the area that was available. The house was actually a house brought over on a oversized truck years ago and the basement was an expanded section not the original design. We are still alive and the basement is coming along extremely well. Lot of re-plumbing and wiring but we only have one area left to get done before we start framing and layout.
Guys, I'm a Civil/Structural Professional Engineer and I have to tell you that you are doing this all wrong. See 'TheUnmercifulOne's comment below. You need to support the house as you dig, only exposing at one time a length of unsupported foundation that has been approved by a structural engineer. It looks like this video was posted quite awhile ago - I hope you're still alive to get the message.
Nah
@@AK-47ISTHEWAY Do you think you know more than a structural engineer?
@@kajekage9410 Yep
The first wall you removed appears to be load bearing. The matching wall on the right has center supports running to support the ceiling from what I can see, so if the wall you removed was the same way, it was load bearing.
The rear wall also appears to be load bearing for the floor and possibly the upper wall and roof support, even if it's not an outer wall. The roof joists need support that run down through the walls onto solid footing of the ground. People don't build walls like that if it isn't supporting something or holding something back.
Even if you are correct that the wall is not load bearing, it's still just as dangerous to dig as you are. Each cinder block weighs 30ish pounds. 10 side by side such as your wall would be 300ish pounds. 10 wide by 5 rows high would be 1500ish pounds. Add the weight of the footer and morter and you're at at least 3000 pounds just by it's self. That's the weight of a car floating in the air inches from where you are digging. Imagine if you were under a car changing the oil and the jack stand broke letting the car land on your face.
I'm not trying to break your stones, I just think you don't realize how on the edge of disaster you actually are.
My mate and I moved 250 tonnes of dirt and rock out from under his crawl space in a few months, the only machine we had was an electric jack hammer with spade attachment. We also used buckets but throw away the shovel and save your back, buy lots of good gloves get on your knees and scoop it up with your hands. As soon as 3 feet across of foundation is exposed pour concrete underpinning. Once concrete is set expose another 3 feet and repeat. This way formwork is only needed on the front not the sides. Think about drainage beforehand but remember every basement is going to leak a little bit unless you live in the desert.
What did you guys put under the footing? I have a block wall with a footing that is just as wide as the block. Not sure how to dig down my basement 2'. Any suggestions?
I only dug out small sections at a time and poured a new cement wall and footing under the original. I did 8 inch thick walls with a regular sized footing at the bottom, I think they where 16 inches wide if I remember right. . The walls were 4 inches under the existing footing and 4 out.
I wonder if you made door way from the outside on one of the large walls and used walk behind loader
You are removing the lateral strength of your footings and based upon what I seen in the video, they are not steel reinforced. If the dirt below them shifts (which it is prone to do) your foundation walls will collapse, pulling your house down on your heads. Immediately stop what you're doing and install temporary load brace wall(s) to shore it up.
Nah
@@AK-47ISTHEWAY you're an id10t.
So are you planning on bench-ledging or under pinning the foundation?
if your going to spend that much time digging by hand & using buckets - set your self up an electric conveyer belt like a roof tiler . BTW . Dig down your new footings with post hole digger & set up your structural vertical pilons to support your floor beams... check out the computer controled mini excavator on utube some one set up .took 7 years but was effortless.👍
That was my response to a similar vid. They are pretty easy to make with so many Electric motors being thrown out with old wash machines/dryers etc. All you need is some wheels and bearing and probably strong Canvas.
any new video. I've started on my crawlspace project to dig out 10ft basement. its alot of work but the reward is to great to pass up...
were are the videos? did u finish it?
They did and did a good job .
I'm about to do the same thing to my house
So I'm prepping for a new video update on this project. I appreciate the advice, and concern.. Just for some info that was not explained in the video, this is not a load bearing wall, and it is not an outside wall to the house. It has been un-finished for over a year and not budged or cracked. That is why I have not supported it. My other walls will be load bearing and outside walls and I will definitely Support them as I go in smaller sections. Thank you all though for the comments and advice!!!
Stewart Redmond what did u do aboit wayer/drainage along the load bearing walls?
TIP. Go to your nearest tool rental location and rent a large debris conveyer
We are alive! New video soon!
Stewart Redmond I'm still waiting for the new video 2 years now smh!! Are you still alive?
All I can say is you have the no 1 thing reqd to do this job: NO FEAR of hard work as well as no fear o trying something that rarely gets done anymore. I will say this kind of stuff was a reg occcurance where I am from (Souther On Canada) where there were many war time houses (no basements) and Hard Working Euro Immigrants stuck together and helped each other dig and create themselves a basement (which included a nice Root Cellar ie. Cantina
Worst and most dangerous way you could have done that project. It should have been underpinned every 4' as you went along. Or an on/off method such as digging a 3' section out then skipping the next 6' before digging the next 3' area so that the foundation would have sufficient support at all times. Good grief guys!
Anyone watching this vid. Don't start a project like this with the words "We have no idea what we're doing"!!! If you're a novice, go overboard on the safety side!!! God bless these very hard working young guys. This was soooo much work, and also very dangerous.
+Bonk It's true this is way to much work. I'm nearing the completion of having all the dirt removed and all walls cemented! I'll have a new vid. soon. I did have a lot of help from people who know much more than me and have learned a lot. :)
I was looking for info on how a basement dig out is done, you to look like a few friends having a chuckle and a laugh doing this at the expense of one of you, the home owner.
This may not be the best approach.
TheUnmercifullOne should be heeded. Not that I know anything but your job site looks
prone to the problems he raises. Good luck with the project
Come on man just post a new video with your cell phone, we wanna see it!
It's like playing Minecraft but in real life.
What is Minecraft?
make sure you talk to architect and get maps drawn and how you will support the house while u r digging. Must get permits or city will give you worst house. My comments are based on " you don't know what you are doing". Concrete has to be 3000 psi for foundation. It seems you will be under pinning. Anyways, good luck.
Starting next week only going 2 1/2 feet
The house has a solid foundation. The beams and support was all left alone. We have only expanded the area that was available. The house was actually a house brought over on a oversized truck years ago and the basement was an expanded section not the original design. We are still alive and the basement is coming along extremely well. Lot of re-plumbing and wiring but we only have one area left to get done before we start framing and layout.
Support the foundation as you go. If you live next to railroad tracks you should probably not continue .
Is this part of Benny Hill show?
That house is going to fall on your head🤦 they are definitely dead by now!
This is scary to watch you guys doing this without anyone helping you with experience
Digged out... what I meant is dug out... lmao.... ooopie
a drug den?