Good point. Makes me realize that contemporary people may have a tendency to forget how smart/competent past generations were. That kind of conceit doesn't last long when I recall that even though I can fly an airplane or drive a car, it doesn't mean I can design or build one. Come to think of it, Pythagoras was a pretty smart cookie, too, and he'd be over 2,500 years old now!
Watching these videos has given me a much more complete idea of how complex and huge in scale these logistical operations had to be in order to make these systems function in very harsh environments. I've learned things about WW2 that are truly astonishing but I still find this aspect particularly fascinating. Things get forgotten in time but I hope people decades from now can watch these films too
“Thickened fuel”, sounds like Napalm to me. Dad was commander of one of these units in the Pacific theater. After spending the war in a tank next to a Chrysler engine next to him, he never complained about the weather ever being “too hot” for him.
My uncle was at Guadele Canal, Iwa Jima, and Okinawa and had one of these in miniature strapped to his back. A real hero marine. never got a scratch ...Lucky strikes killed him 3 packs a day later for 40 years....
Tropical heat, middle of a warzone, "try to park on a slope so spills run out the back, you'll know the tanks are full when thickened fuel or raw gas starts overflowing, you should try to stop it going everywhere". Just wow.
A lot of these "guides" seem to be written and narrated by someone who clearly never saw any kind of combat even in bootcamp training... likely some rich friend of a voted govt official who was given some official position. Watch thier medic video.... and try not to hurl at how badly our ancestors were treated...
High-pressure air, gasoline everywhere, no chance of moving out of harm's way until the job is done.. That must have been a nerve-wracking job in any kind of combat situation. And in the tank you're sitting next to a high-pressure gasoline bomb. Fun.
I talked to a guy who tried a hand held flame thrower in 29 Palms. He said it gave him the worst headache he ever experienced, and was completely disabled until they got him to an infirmary for a big blast of oxygen and some kind of pill.
@@mwbright Kind of depressing in retrospect hearing "Your comfort isn't as important as your victory" from some commando in an air conditioned office way back in Washington....
I was thinking the same thing...these chemicals, dioxins and hydrocarbons must have been terrible for all living things. We gotta find a other way to resolve disputes
And not ONE "No Smoking" sign anywhere on that truck..LOL... that has got to be one of the most dangerous non combatant assignments I've ever seen! Wow!
@@matthewexline6589 And to a certain extent it's just a combination of teamwork, training and monkey-see-monkey-do. Sure wouldn't want to be doing those jobs in bad weather and/or under fire!
I was thinking the same thing. Just how well it all worked months into action? North African sand storms & dust? Hundreds of miles of bad roads and winter conditions of Northern Europe? Still beats the heck out of mixing it all by hand with a wooden paddle like they were in the Nam. Mogas & M-4 thickener same stuff to make fougasse or napalm.
M4 flame fuel thickening compound is a nonhygroscopic thickener, adi-acid aluminum soap of isooctanoic acids derived from isooctyl alcohol or isooctyl aldehyde, which are obtained from the oxidization of petroleum.M4 is used in fire bombs and incendiary weapons.
Dad was an instructor for these types of vehicles. What fascinates me is that today none of this equipment could exist because of safety regulations. Not to dwell on the fact that modern equipment is not "user serviceable", or certainly is as workaround-proof as can be.
Think about doing this for mortars and bullets are flying all around. I would think they would be covered in fuel as well this was a tough job to stomach
There was a whole battalion of flame tanks on Okinawa, I believe it was the 713 tank battalion. They had a number of 105 Sherman's assigned to them also for fire support.
Americans had to have a complicated machine for everything. Brits just poured "jellied petrol" from cans into the tank trailer and replaced the gas cylinder propellant. Job done.
Nowhere near as efficient as the British "Crocodile" were the fuel and propellant were carried in a trailer not in the tank itself. The main armament was retained and the flame projector replaced only the bow machine gun. The trailer carried a lot more fuel so was longer lasting, if it ran out you could just replace the trailer in a few minutes. The Crocodile flame projector had a range out to 150+ meters in combat.
@@UnicornstalkRGaming It was actually tested in Jungle conditions in India / Burma. But found the flame projector was inhibited by the close vegetation. Incidentally the US Flame Throwers were actually older British / Canadian designs. The US Army chose the Sherman Crocodile after British Churchill Crocodiles regiments supported US troops in NW Europe.
At. least one of the WW2 soldiers in this film: " I'ma Transfer outta this outfit.Just gimme n M-1 Garand and get me the hell away from that Crematorium on wheels/Tracks... I'll even go in a Sherman but not on that rig..."
He does sound a bit like him. Just read that Mr. B. was born in 1910, was a conscientious objector in WWII and served as a medic - would have been in his early thirties then. Assume he was too old to be drafted (and already a married man), so not sure what happened there.
That poor driver's best bet was keeping the canvas up at all times and concealing it among all the other rando supply trucks. I suspect that's precisely what they had in mind when they designed the entire pumping apparatus to fit under the canvas. I know there were gasoline tankers designed the same way (to try and avoid drawing fire).
I don't have a lot of knowledge about flamethrowers but I could devise a system to refill the tank much faster and easier with fewer men. Put a cascade system on the truck for the air recharge. It could be refilled when not actively charging the tank and would cut that time way down. You use a system of bottles compressed to higher pressures. Then put a tank in a second truck with a second tank for the powder. Mix it in a third tank ahead of time and then pump it on the tank when it pulls up.
I had no idea what was involved in this whole operation. All I can think of is I hope that this was done far away from the front lines cuz you certainly wouldn't want to be doing this procedure if there was any chance you might come under fire by the enemy
What a complicated procedure. Do you you do this on battle with bullets whizzing overhead? Great! Sure...Why can't they have a single pressurized cartridge you can just pop in and go guys. You're supposed to do all this at orvnear a combat zone? Geniuses....
In my game of ruse art of deception the Americans have the crocodile Italians have a flamethrower tank but nobody else in Company of Heroes PC game the Germans have a flame thrower half track.
These flame throwers always puzzled me. 95% of the fuel seems to burn off before reaching the target. Why not shoot a good blast unignited, then follow it up with a short flaming shot, to ignite the first shot?
"You will know when the main containers are full when fuel comes out of the over flow hose to minimise the danger of fire catch the fuel in a can" ! "Clean air compressor intake filter in gasoline", "drop oil into compressor cylinders" ! Oh this is smart compressing air with oil and gas. They seems to rely on overflowing to show the tanks full, I hope the clean up as per the environmental and OSH regulations. Ok chaps all done time for a smoke, booooom problem solved. This janky machine is bloody dangerous.
How many tank crews drove off without pulling up their ground stake? I think this video was delinquent and lead to the premature death of many a ground stake.
What was the middle bit again.?..Wow,that’s a lot to remember.!..Imagine being a guy assigned to this unit and watching this…🫨..Good job they’re have a Sergeant to calmly and gently remind them,if they happen to forget anything!🫡
The operation of handling napalm is very pointless, so opening the cans while the truck is in operation lmao. Open the can, leave the can in the open and transfer the contents to another container. In these 10 minutes alone, at least 15% of the consistency was lost due to humidity.
Holy crap huge tank of fuel inside a tank that was very easy to distroy. The British were much smarter and pulled fuel trailer behind their churchhill tank
And illegal by the agreed laws of war set by many conventions of the various nations. Not by the US who do not sign such declarations as a rule and many nasty countries....
Men with men stacked on men piled on men all over men underneath men who love men attracted to men interested in men curious about men pushing up on men
I'll say the one video about women's health was actually pretty good. They had a female host so it wasn't one of those "I as a man tell you how YOUR body works" cases, but some of these soldiers talk about women like the govt selling them as trophies to whoever gets the most bounties.
I think the reason they called these battles "Theater" is because it was just spectacle for the fat heads sitting at home acting like this war was for any American's benefit and not just a way to purge half the population.
more like here's what we needed 300 years ago when the people who complain about the southern border the most were able to waltz in and build a country...... who invited you?
Glad these procedures were simple to remember. Straightened me out just like a pretzel. 😅
laughing real hard on that comment
@@ypaulbrown Glad you liked it.
Good point. Makes me realize that contemporary people may have a tendency to forget how smart/competent past generations were. That kind of conceit doesn't last long when I recall that even though I can fly an airplane or drive a car, it doesn't mean I can design or build one. Come to think of it, Pythagoras was a pretty smart cookie, too, and he'd be over 2,500 years old now!
I done understand step 45 & 150
@@jimamizzi1Don't feel bad, you're not alone. OTOH, there is no remedial training. Those making mistakes are simply _fired_
Watching these videos has given me a much more complete idea of how complex and huge in scale these logistical operations had to be in order to make these systems function in very harsh environments. I've learned things about WW2 that are truly astonishing but I still find this aspect particularly fascinating. Things get forgotten in time but I hope people decades from now can watch these films too
Just thinking,,, could the lgbt+ do this ???
DOUBTFUL.......
@@ironworkerfxr7105don't post that shit on my comment
They have way more important things to do, like consider what gender they are, more power to them!!!@ironworkerfxr7105
“Thickened fuel”, sounds like Napalm to me. Dad was commander of one of these units in the Pacific theater. After spending the war in a tank next to a Chrysler engine next to him, he never complained about the weather ever being “too hot” for him.
Great story from a great man. Thanks for sharing with us...
The buckets of thickener , don't appear too heavy...aluminium isnt it?.
@@Orangesjesuscornflower.
It is napalm.
@@Orangesjesus aluminium salts of naphthenic acid and palmitic acid hence the name Na-palm.
@5:40 Yep, just stick your hand up in there and point at all the spinning belts off the driveshaft....
No joke, I was panicking watching that.
Its 1940s machines are moving so fast and safety was for pansies
@@DatHughJass bet he was also wearing a tie....
@@captaintoyota3171😮😅
The narrator said the guards had been removed
My uncle was at Guadele Canal, Iwa Jima, and Okinawa and had one of these in miniature strapped to his back. A real hero marine. never got a scratch ...Lucky strikes killed him 3 packs a day later for 40 years....
God bless your uncle for his service to our great nation.
Much like making a roast or cake, a lot of prep work for a relatively short time of enjoyment.
Not gonna lie though....it's a FLAMETHROWER. The coolness factor makes up for it. XD
Pretty Cool, hadn't ever thought about refilling a Flame Tank .
Tropical heat, middle of a warzone, "try to park on a slope so spills run out the back, you'll know the tanks are full when thickened fuel or raw gas starts overflowing, you should try to stop it going everywhere".
Just wow.
A lot of these "guides" seem to be written and narrated by someone who clearly never saw any kind of combat even in bootcamp training... likely some rich friend of a voted govt official who was given some official position. Watch thier medic video.... and try not to hurl at how badly our ancestors were treated...
High-pressure air, gasoline everywhere, no chance of moving out of harm's way until the job is done.. That must have been a nerve-wracking job in any kind of combat situation. And in the tank you're sitting next to a high-pressure gasoline bomb. Fun.
Thee fumes those guys breathed in must have been horrendous. Think of the guys in the Tank on a hot tropical day.
I talked to a guy who tried a hand held flame thrower in 29 Palms. He said it gave him the worst headache he ever experienced, and was completely disabled until they got him to an infirmary for a big blast of oxygen and some kind of pill.
@@mwbright Kind of depressing in retrospect hearing "Your comfort isn't as important as your victory" from some commando in an air conditioned office way back in Washington....
@@MarioMastar Fighting insane Japanese or Nazis with a migraine, well, that's about as bad as it gets.
I was thinking the same thing...these chemicals, dioxins and hydrocarbons must have been terrible for all living things. We gotta find a other way to resolve disputes
And not ONE "No Smoking" sign anywhere on that truck..LOL... that has got to be one of the most dangerous non combatant assignments I've ever seen! Wow!
They had common sense back then. Something that is seriously lacking in all aspects of life in today's time !!
Judging by how complicated that process was I think anyone stupid enough to need such a sign washed out in the training.
@@matthewexline6589 ... Most definitely !!
@@matthewexline6589 And to a certain extent it's just a combination of teamwork, training and monkey-see-monkey-do. Sure wouldn't want to be doing those jobs in bad weather and/or under fire!
No OSHA back then.
Who designed this setup, Rube Goldberg??
I was thinking the same thing. Just how well it all worked months into action? North African sand storms & dust? Hundreds of miles of bad roads and winter conditions of Northern Europe? Still beats the heck out of mixing it all by hand with a wooden paddle like they were in the Nam. Mogas & M-4 thickener same stuff to make fougasse or napalm.
M4 flame fuel thickening compound is a nonhygroscopic thickener, adi-acid aluminum soap of isooctanoic acids derived from isooctyl alcohol or isooctyl aldehyde, which are obtained from the oxidization of petroleum.M4 is used in fire bombs and incendiary weapons.
I had idea this was so simple! 😂
More Armchair Combat Eingieers here! Keep em coming!
Dad was an instructor for these types of vehicles. What fascinates me is that today none of this equipment could exist because of safety regulations. Not to dwell on the fact that modern equipment is not "user serviceable", or certainly is as workaround-proof as can be.
God bless your dad for his service to our great nation.
Think about doing this for mortars and bullets are flying all around. I would think they would be covered in fuel as well this was a tough job to stomach
Damn that was complicated
These tanks were used quite often on Iwo Jima!!
There was a whole battalion of flame tanks on Okinawa, I believe it was the 713 tank battalion. They had a number of 105 Sherman's assigned to them also for fire support.
I find these films very interesting if you don't know what the procedures were or how it worked back then
Useful in case I need to fuel my flamethrower tank!
Americans had to have a complicated machine for everything. Brits just poured "jellied petrol" from cans into the tank trailer and replaced the gas cylinder propellant. Job done.
Nowhere near as efficient as the British "Crocodile" were the fuel and propellant were carried in a trailer not in the tank itself. The main armament was retained and the flame projector replaced only the bow machine gun. The trailer carried a lot more fuel so was longer lasting, if it ran out you could just replace the trailer in a few minutes. The Crocodile flame projector had a range out to 150+ meters in combat.
Yeah, try bringing it into a jungle island
@@UnicornstalkRGaming It was actually tested in Jungle conditions in India / Burma. But found the flame projector was inhibited by the close vegetation. Incidentally the US Flame Throwers were actually older British / Canadian designs. The US Army chose the Sherman Crocodile after British Churchill Crocodiles regiments supported US troops in NW Europe.
THANKS VERY MUCH.....🇺🇸
Would it be too late to unsign up at this point?
At. least one of the WW2 soldiers in this film: " I'ma Transfer outta this outfit.Just gimme n M-1 Garand and get me the hell away from that Crematorium on wheels/Tracks... I'll even go in a Sherman but not on that rig..."
24:02 is the money shot
Tank had to relieve that pent up fuel. XD
Static ground unit for the helicopter inflight..
What could go wrong? My dad and his buddies were made of different stuff. God love them all.
thanks
Didn't the tanks tow a trailer with the mixed fuel at times?
the narrator has got to be Hugh Beaumont......I have heard and seen him before in army training films...
he played Beaver Cleaver's Father....
He does sound a bit like him. Just read that Mr. B. was born in 1910, was a conscientious objector in WWII and served as a medic - would have been in his early thirties then. Assume he was too old to be drafted (and already a married man), so not sure what happened there.
Yea, it sure sounds like him.
You don't want to be smoking near the re-fueler!
Ahh, the good ol' days when a $100 drone wouldn't wipe out the tank and fuel truck...
Or one of the soldiers forgetting it's a no-smoking zone.
That poor driver's best bet was keeping the canvas up at all times and concealing it among all the other rando supply trucks. I suspect that's precisely what they had in mind when they designed the entire pumping apparatus to fit under the canvas. I know there were gasoline tankers designed the same way (to try and avoid drawing fire).
Is it is the US Army still using flamethrowers? I don’t mean flamethrowers on tanks, but I mean flamethrowers in any configuration. Any ideas guys?
Just curious guys, is the US Army still using flame towers in any configuration, not just on tanks
they stoped using them many years ago...@@challanger275
At which point do I put out my cigar?
They forgot to remind them to pull up the grounding wires when finished.
Now all I need is the tank, truck and related equipment.
I trained soldiers on these tanks in the early 1940's.
So you are like nearly 100 years old?? Wow.
@@PeriscopeFilm No. He's a time traveler. He was also a rugby coach in 1939 and retired from Kodak in 1961. 🤣
@teri2466 Let us not forget, in the 70s they also partook in Angel Dust and contracted venereal disease!
@@Bezzer1975 Yet they made fun of Adolf for passing out blowup dolls to the troops.
@@Bezzer1975 (Wipes away tear of nostalgia)
Not a job for heavy smokers ;-) But a real procedur to go tru-amazing
I wonder if those guys all belonged to the plumbers union? Man, what a job!
10:00 “insert into the bung”. 🤪
Be nice to add white phosphorus in dust form.
A Zippo or a Ronson??
Wonder how they remember all the steps crazy
Crispy Critters made while you wait.
The receiver in the Tank must be getting pretty hot when being charged..
I was worried about that dude putting his hand in that belt
Dear got a huge tank of agitating hot gasoline.... if the tank builds too much pressure? My god if that thing went off...
Jeez the war should be just about over by the time they finish that ridiculous routine😅
The Bung of the Drum !! NASCAR quick the ain't
They had to keep it PG for all the kids in the military. XD
I don't have a lot of knowledge about flamethrowers but I could devise a system to refill the tank much faster and easier with fewer men. Put a cascade system on the truck for the air recharge. It could be refilled when not actively charging the tank and would cut that time way down. You use a system of bottles compressed to higher pressures. Then put a tank in a second truck with a second tank for the powder. Mix it in a third tank ahead of time and then pump it on the tank when it pulls up.
the japanese were great supporters of this device.
😂😂😂😂
I had no idea what was involved in this whole operation. All I can think of is I hope that this was done far away from the front lines cuz you certainly wouldn't want to be doing this procedure if there was any chance you might come under fire by the enemy
Watch out for drones while doing this lol
What a complicated procedure. Do you you do this on battle with bullets whizzing overhead? Great! Sure...Why can't they have a single pressurized cartridge
you can just pop in and go guys. You're supposed to do all this at orvnear a combat zone? Geniuses....
In my game of ruse art of deception the Americans have the crocodile Italians have a flamethrower tank but nobody else in Company of Heroes PC game the Germans have a flame thrower half track.
Must have been really clever people, to remember all of this.
Given there weren't many flame throwers talked about in the history of the war, I think most people wanted to forget about this. XD
What could possibly go wrong ?
These flame throwers always puzzled me. 95% of the fuel seems to burn off before reaching the target. Why not shoot a good blast unignited, then follow it up with a short flaming shot, to ignite the first shot?
They did do that. There are videos showing flame tanks shooting straight fuel into caves and then igniting it.
@@genek8630 I guess my question is, why didn't they always do that?
I’m guessing these guys were using naptha, a little diesel, and kerosene/gasoline?
Man, I hope there's not a pop quiz on all this. 🤔☹
Imagine trying to do all this in a combat area. No wonder they don't have flame tanks anymore.
O.K., now for the test........
"You will know when the main containers are full when fuel comes out of the over flow hose to minimise the danger of fire catch the fuel in a can" ! "Clean air compressor intake filter in gasoline", "drop oil into compressor cylinders" ! Oh this is smart compressing air with oil and gas. They seems to rely on overflowing to show the tanks full, I hope the clean up as per the environmental and OSH regulations. Ok chaps all done time for a smoke, booooom problem solved. This janky machine is bloody dangerous.
IT’S 1942 OSHA COMPLIANT
We could always add in some hi test h2o2 or Fl for giggles
This was not for 21st century snowflake sissies.
@@ChrisAthanas1940s OSHA= "Only pansies worry about safety THIS IS THE WAR"
Whatcha complaining about?.... it's grounded. 😂
And who is this Osha character? He sounds like a real killjoy. 🤔
Literally, a tank from hell…😮 Every infantry would not wish to face in battlefield…
You wouldn’t want to be in a hurry.
No one wears gloves amazing
How many tank crews drove off without pulling up their ground stake? I think this video was delinquent and lead to the premature death of many a ground stake.
13:53 lol
What was the middle bit again.?..Wow,that’s a lot to remember.!..Imagine being a guy assigned to this unit and watching this…🫨..Good job they’re have a Sergeant to calmly and gently remind them,if they happen to forget anything!🫡
Three stripes and a " T"....technical sargeant?
Dam more valves than carter got liver pills
There goes 24 minutes of my life
The operation of handling napalm is very pointless, so opening the cans while the truck is in operation lmao.
Open the can, leave the can in the open and transfer the contents to another container. In these 10 minutes alone, at least 15% of the consistency was lost due to humidity.
Isnt war fun!!
So simple a caveman could do it! 🙃
Not many opportunities for a balls up.
They used tank mounted flame throwers -- to incinerate the people at the "Texas Barbecue" (Branch Dividians)😢
The Ukrainians could use some of those things now.
Holy crap huge tank of fuel inside a tank that was very easy to distroy. The British were much smarter and pulled fuel trailer behind their churchhill tank
FBI.
Holland.
Unk.
The abuse continues.
Threat theme.
A nasty way to kill!!!
And illegal by the agreed laws of war set by many conventions of the various nations. Not by the US who do not sign such declarations as a rule and many nasty countries....
….and today that service truck crew would throughly indoctrinated in DEI. 😮
This all just seems like a bad idea. I mean, what could go wrong? No way in hell would you get me in that mobile gas bomb.
Fortunately after what happened in Vietnam, the American people forced the govt to give us a choice in the matter.
Helmet liners. What a joke
Cancel complete operation....The enemy has now completed the boarding of the troop carrier ship and is now half way back to home port....
This great film is male interest, any women watching care to prove me wrong?
Men with men stacked on men piled on men all over men underneath men who love men attracted to men interested in men curious about men pushing up on men
I'll say the one video about women's health was actually pretty good. They had a female host so it wasn't one of those "I as a man tell you how YOUR body works" cases, but some of these soldiers talk about women like the govt selling them as trophies to whoever gets the most bounties.
The Army really overcomplicated this. I got bored watching and listening.
I think the reason they called these battles "Theater" is because it was just spectacle for the fat heads sitting at home acting like this war was for any American's benefit and not just a way to purge half the population.
Ewww!!! Like the neutron bomb, that flame thrower is a horrible weapon, at least for those on the target end, with no way OUT!!!
They forgot the on the job cigarette break
HERES what we need at the southern border...
more like here's what we needed 300 years ago when the people who complain about the southern border the most were able to waltz in and build a country...... who invited you?