I've got a full on shnoz buster cold brewing but couldn't help trying to sing along while watching this one. It made me realize something. This fall will be 2 years since I started taking lessons with you. When we started, I could rarely get past a D4 without flipping and I was all systems go, max muscle tension to get there. I could "carry a tune" as they say, but I wasn't singing. Even with a head full of goo (and hey, that helped when you started talking about clearing your throat) I was able to get into those compressed spaces with you today and it sounded good! Brother, I would never have understood how to do this if it wasn't for your ability to teach these techniques so many different ways. Each week I come back with some new pig squeal, chord cracking problem, and you find a new way of explaining the coordination to help me make that next leap. So, to those that discount your method I say "... and the horse you road in on."
His flageolet tip saved my voice. I was drowning in falsetto, and couldn't get any compression happening. Worse, I was even doubting his advice! The difference now is night and day. Even my speaking voice sounds better.
I’m a lead guitarist, played Glastonbury before 😁Really like your vids mate. Awesome teacher. Watch your Chris Cornell videos regularly. I have a bass voice which is a novelty when speaking but boy opening up some range takes weeks and it’s gone if I don’t maintain it. One singer who sounds as awesome as he did 50 years ago is Paul Rogers. Unbelievable. And what a voice. I watched a performance of him in his 70’s and then the Isle of White festival when he was 20. Identical. How does he and say Steven Tyler keep it and Axl Rose/Bon Jovi have lost it? 👍
Nice video man. I think you were spot on about the way Layne produced his distortion. If you listen to him live after 91, he was often struggling on harder songs (like Man in the Box) and had to take lower harmonies for the top notes.
Ah okay. I haven’t listened to too much live footage but yeah, he’s going full tilt with lots of this stuff which is awesome but just hard to replicate in a live setting.
@@SterlingRJackson tis true. and, perhaps sad... [a lesson on self and style preservation for those fascinated w/the darkness over that of the former] Facelift era LIVE stuff ['90- '93] is spot on powerful eerie territory [e.g. sounds like recorded tracks. Sometimes better] But [as we can hear on self titled album and successive live recorded performances thereafter -granted; dont always have the best mic'ing] his presence and push precede him to the grave. Facelift as well as the recorded venue performances from that period have soooo much energy! Dirt keeps up in that regard, & develops intrigue and holism per their/his best sound/s. *but....then* Be it drugs, burn out, a mix of factors or simply an 'other' explanation I'm not aware of - we hear no more of that push present pretty quickly into what we have available to study re: live MTV, venue recordings, EP's, Mad Season & eponymous. Layne's sound never dies. But that super natural presence and riddle like style he so naturally embodied is only found in his work from 90-92. Precious few but uniquely profound examples we have. The lesson, on a human level; is not different.
Really awesome video, love watching the different people you cover in this "How to sing like" series you do. It would be really awesome if you did one on Shaun Morgan from Seether, he's super underrated and has a lot of awesome things going on there.
You have a very similar tone and delivery to Chris Cornell, you sound like him. I think Layne had the most iconic grunge voice in the business, that classic "jaw/mouth barely open" sound that became grunge's signature singing, Vedder being another example. Staley was the best at it in my opinion.
Great video as someone who is purely interested in singing as an admirer of those who discover their instrument. Side note: I wonder what is going on cosmically that LS is seeing such an amazing resurgence of late (it's awesome)
Fun fact: Layne had the same vocal coach as Chris Cornell, Geoff Tate (Queensrÿche), and Ann Wilson - David Kyle. Although Chris also trained with Ronald Anderson who was a vocal coach and Opera singer. Ronald also trained Ozzy Osbourne, Lenny Kravitz, Adele, The Weekend, Axl Rose and a ton more - maybe the funnest client was Tom Cruise for his role in “Rock of Ages”. Anderson suffered from a significant vocal injury early on in his career so he was dedicated to learning how to use the voice efficiently and I think by his list of clients who all use some pretty powerful techniques and have/had demanding touring/performing schedules, he succeeded. Mr Anderson is no longer alive but there is a TH-cam channel with limited content. Also, David Kyle’s protege, Robert Lunte has a TH-cam channel with good content on it for anyone interested. I’m not offering this, by the way, because I think your content isn’t very helpful, Sterling. I know I continue to benefit from listening and watching a variety of vocalists and vocal coaches from all different genres and schools of training. So much about singing is about figuring out how to get all those tiny muscles working together and it can be hard to find them or get a good analogy that will help you lock on to the placement you’re searching for so I like to listen to a lot of people because someone somewhere will say something that connects. I got a lot out of you mentioning that you need to be able to find distortion placements/techniques in diff’t places up and down your register. That gave me something to work on. Thank you ❤
@@casey10bb Fair enough. Lord knows it wouldn’t be the first time someone made exaggerated claims for marketing. I mean, let’s be honest, ALL the singers I listed are phenomenal talents. They all have a tremendous gift and I doubt anyone would be able to teach them much of anything. I think most if not all of them ran into the same issues every professional singer bumps up against once they leave the recording booth and hit the stage night after night on their gruelling tours. No matter how naturally gifted you are, learning some fundamentals to help preserve your voice and use it more efficiently is a good thing and they all obviously availed themselves of that knowledge, even if it was just via a taped lesson ☺️
"sh!t loads of ways you can produce sounds" amen, brother. Layne AND Jerry's [don't forget Jerry's part in what we often mistake to be exclusively Layne's sound] droney-next-level harmonious compellingly distinct and uber creative work is some of the most wow sh!t loads there be. Altho imitation can be flattery, this will never be fully done, in Layne's case. [i love the attention u give it, nonetheless]
You should listen to the 'demo' version of Rooster - one of THE best versions and you can then realize that bottom jaw 'stupid' voice as you consistently mention really isn't there. If you know AIC, you'll realize many different styles of singing Layne had. Even his background vocals were different. He had such a versatility to his sound & voice that MOST ppl don't know and it shows in their videos.
The jaw thing isn’t stupid. It’s how people Re processing their annunciation while singing. He used his jaw more than some other folks. Certainly isn’t stupid.
You are a phenomenal singer. But from my ears there’s a couple thing your voice is missing. It’s missing that pain and addiction voice. You remind me ALOT of Chris Cornell. Laynes voice was like a gravel road that took you someplace you’ve never been, and you’ll never want to leave. Chris Cornell’s voice was gods personal paved driveway
Always preferred Layne's voice, not a fan of Chris tone honestly. Even though they sounded similar, Staley, Cornell, Vedder and such, there were clear differences. I'd say Weiland was one of the best after Staley.
That’s an interesting analysis of layne and chris’ voice, and being a huge fan of both my whole life, like basically my two favorite singers of all time huge fan, I’d have to say you’re right. Gravel road / paved road lol so accurate. Cornell rips portals through time with what seems to him little effort but Layne has the same range but has so much pain/hurt you can feel which is why Layne is my favorite. Layne is definitely a man born in wrong generation, he’d be much more idolized in todays society
My opinion when you sing the part “you know he ain’t gonna diiiieeeee” no no no oha ooo … “ you force it too high , sounds more natural and better when you use you deep power / distorted voice ,, any who.. great video beautiful voice
13:57 I've been trying to get distortion up high and I can do a James Hetfield distortion at chest and more nosey. When I do it for sometime my voice does that at head/falsetto and It makes another type of distortion that its uncontrollable that sounds like that. What do you thing I'd need to do? (I have breath support down) Also these videos are great, cause you get into the details of what rock singers do to make the sounds that they do. 💯💯
Sounds like you’re pushing too hard and then your voice is breaking and you’re getting vocal cord distortion. Upper pallet distortion might be easier to find in straight up head voice and then learn to bring it down into chest. It’s easier to find closer to your bridge but there’s some elements of making it work like mixed voice and keeping the throat open. I’ve made some videos about it if you search my page 😊
Does someone like layne having sort of cracks and 'meat getting in the way' in natural way of speaking help in not tiring out their voice when they do distortion? Granted there is always some 'intentional' adding of distortion for affect. I notice a lot of these singers like Vedder, Cobain etc have a vocal fry kind of crackle just in their normal speech.
do you think you could do a video on how to belt high notes with rasp and distortion like chris cornell? im able to do it but not properly, i just sound like a croakier axle rose and it's not very appealing and i cant find any tutorials to do it
Hey Sterling dude😊 got a question, when you were teaching the squeaky door technique to achieve M3 or Flagolet, should I be in head voice placement or chest voice placement? When I try this I don't know which area of the throat to be, I appreciate it dude , great video😊
Flageolet is a head voice coordination. Squeaky door is used to help your bridge between chest and head voice. It’s used to help one recognize what muscles they can use to help bridge the gap between chest and head but… taken up high enough you can merge into flageolet too. 😊
My opinion when you sing the part “you know he ain’t gonna diiiieeeee” no no no oha ooo … “ you force it too high , sounds more natural and better when you use you deep power / distorted voice ,, any who.. great video beautiful voice
Also for rooster singing the beginning 2 harmonies, I can only do the lower one, the higher one is a little too high😢 is this m2 ? If so then I'm not stretching as high as a should/ could be. Also with that higher harmony it's really airy and I can't quite get there. It's this a chord closure issue or not enough compression? Super annoying😂
The high one is fucking high man, so don’t sweat it too much but remember, you need to have your chords completely together “head voice”. Any air leakage and it certainly won’t work. Gotta take the Mickey Mouse voice and stretch it up high.
@SterlingRJackson awesome 😆 I'm doing really good lately with singing almost everything in that higher open placement, like Roxanne, or No Rain, radiohead stuff, alice in chains, even nirvana, I've been able to sing it in a head voice placement instead of my old chest voice ways, I'm able to get way up there but I still feel like I'm hitting a ceiling which makes me think I need to work on M3 placement. I will try to go back thru your videos and see what I can't get figured out. I appreciate the help dude 🙏
Could anyone help me answer this..? How do I get a mic set up like he has and make it come through a monitor and put effects in it as well. How do I figure out the stuff I need to buy for this?
fl studio, ableton, some other softwares. you need a compressed mic i think its called need like audiotechnica at2020s or sumn with the xlr or dxr cable something running to an interface a behringer 1 channel is cheap or if you play instruments along you can get a 2 channel interface but yea besides all that a boom arm
No it’s the stupid program I used to record all of my audio. Always some issue going on 😂. Sorry! Trying to figure out better methods all of the time but something is always going wrong
I've got a full on shnoz buster cold brewing but couldn't help trying to sing along while watching this one. It made me realize something. This fall will be 2 years since I started taking lessons with you. When we started, I could rarely get past a D4 without flipping and I was all systems go, max muscle tension to get there. I could "carry a tune" as they say, but I wasn't singing. Even with a head full of goo (and hey, that helped when you started talking about clearing your throat) I was able to get into those compressed spaces with you today and it sounded good! Brother, I would never have understood how to do this if it wasn't for your ability to teach these techniques so many different ways. Each week I come back with some new pig squeal, chord cracking problem, and you find a new way of explaining the coordination to help me make that next leap. So, to those that discount your method I say "... and the horse you road in on."
Ha. Thanks buddy! I appreciate that 😊😊
His flageolet tip saved my voice. I was drowning in falsetto, and couldn't get any compression happening. Worse, I was even doubting his advice! The difference now is night and day. Even my speaking voice sounds better.
this must be one of the hardest things to try and figure out on your own, let alone teach. youre awesome man.
Always more to learn. It never ending in a lot of ways. 😊
No way i’ve been trying this for months and discovered your channels yesterday night and now you drop this.?!?
I’m a lead guitarist, played Glastonbury before 😁Really like your vids mate. Awesome teacher. Watch your Chris Cornell videos regularly. I have a bass voice which is a novelty when speaking but boy opening up some range takes weeks and it’s gone if I don’t maintain it.
One singer who sounds as awesome as he did 50 years ago is Paul Rogers. Unbelievable. And what a voice. I watched a performance of him in his 70’s and then the Isle of White festival when he was 20. Identical. How does he and say Steven Tyler keep it and Axl Rose/Bon Jovi have lost it? 👍
i admire your courage and technique i’ve had to try to learn on my own too
Nice video man. I think you were spot on about the way Layne produced his distortion. If you listen to him live after 91, he was often struggling on harder songs (like Man in the Box) and had to take lower harmonies for the top notes.
Ah okay. I haven’t listened to too much live footage but yeah, he’s going full tilt with lots of this stuff which is awesome but just hard to replicate in a live setting.
@@SterlingRJackson tis true. and, perhaps sad... [a lesson on self and style preservation for those fascinated w/the darkness over that of the former] Facelift era LIVE stuff ['90- '93] is spot on powerful eerie territory [e.g. sounds like recorded tracks. Sometimes better] But [as we can hear on self titled album and successive live recorded performances thereafter -granted; dont always have the best mic'ing] his presence and push precede him to the grave.
Facelift as well as the recorded venue performances from that period have soooo much energy! Dirt keeps up in that regard, & develops intrigue and holism per their/his best sound/s.
*but....then*
Be it drugs, burn out, a mix of factors or simply an 'other' explanation I'm not aware of - we hear no more of that push present pretty quickly into what we have available to study re: live MTV, venue recordings, EP's, Mad Season & eponymous.
Layne's sound never dies.
But that super natural presence and riddle like style he so naturally embodied is only found in his work from 90-92.
Precious few but uniquely profound examples we have.
The lesson, on a human level; is not different.
@@SterlingRJackson Layne didn't seem to have the enthusiasm nor the 'want' to do it anymore as time went on.
I found a way to do laynes distortion, which sounded very very similar to his but its hard to sustain for 2 hours +
Yea you have his style nailed down very well. I'm working hard on it myself.
Always love your breakdowns of these wonderful singers.
That tip about imagining you’re about to carry something heavy was very useful.. thanks
Dude was one helluva singer.....👍
Why did Anthony Kiedis start learning mixed voice? He said he got tired of singing “Under The Bridge“
You are the only man on youtube who can make a great video without a SINGLE cut!
love your energy
awesome video! love how clear you are explaining all these concepts. Thank you
Really awesome video, love watching the different people you cover in this "How to sing like" series you do. It would be really awesome if you did one on Shaun Morgan from Seether, he's super underrated and has a lot of awesome things going on there.
also there is no need to hate, of course there isnt another layne, but you can always learn from those before us so we can be our best selves
This is what I’ve been waiting for. Love this!
That was spectacular dude!!😮
You have a very similar tone and delivery to Chris Cornell, you sound like him. I think Layne had the most iconic grunge voice in the business, that classic "jaw/mouth barely open" sound that became grunge's signature singing, Vedder being another example. Staley was the best at it in my opinion.
Great stuff man. Any chance on doing one for Rod Stewart? Faces Stay With Me? That'd be sweet :)
Every guitarist needs an EBow sitting on their desk.
Great video as someone who is purely interested in singing as an admirer of those who discover their instrument. Side note: I wonder what is going on cosmically that LS is seeing such an amazing resurgence of late (it's awesome)
great lesson. I keep gagging when i try to use both distortion techniques. Please help or direct to a good practice routine for distortion.
great video as always, dude! 🙏
Fun fact: Layne had the same vocal coach as Chris Cornell, Geoff Tate (Queensrÿche), and Ann Wilson - David Kyle. Although Chris also trained with Ronald Anderson who was a vocal coach and Opera singer. Ronald also trained Ozzy Osbourne, Lenny Kravitz, Adele, The Weekend, Axl Rose and a ton more - maybe the funnest client was Tom Cruise for his role in “Rock of Ages”. Anderson suffered from a significant vocal injury early on in his career so he was dedicated to learning how to use the voice efficiently and I think by his list of clients who all use some pretty powerful techniques and have/had demanding touring/performing schedules, he succeeded. Mr Anderson is no longer alive but there is a TH-cam channel with limited content. Also, David Kyle’s protege, Robert Lunte has a TH-cam channel with good content on it for anyone interested. I’m not offering this, by the way, because I think your content isn’t very helpful, Sterling. I know I continue to benefit from listening and watching a variety of vocalists and vocal coaches from all different genres and schools of training. So much about singing is about figuring out how to get all those tiny muscles working together and it can be hard to find them or get a good analogy that will help you lock on to the placement you’re searching for so I like to listen to a lot of people because someone somewhere will say something that connects. I got a lot out of you mentioning that you need to be able to find distortion placements/techniques in diff’t places up and down your register. That gave me something to work on. Thank you ❤
no he didn't. He didn't have the funds. He heard a 'tape' from someone else but not his own.
@@casey10bb Fair enough. Lord knows it wouldn’t be the first time someone made exaggerated claims for marketing. I mean, let’s be honest, ALL the singers I listed are phenomenal talents. They all have a tremendous gift and I doubt anyone would be able to teach them much of anything. I think most if not all of them ran into the same issues every professional singer bumps up against once they leave the recording booth and hit the stage night after night on their gruelling tours. No matter how naturally gifted you are, learning some fundamentals to help preserve your voice and use it more efficiently is a good thing and they all obviously availed themselves of that knowledge, even if it was just via a taped lesson ☺️
"sh!t loads of ways you can produce sounds"
amen, brother.
Layne AND Jerry's [don't forget Jerry's part in what we often mistake to be exclusively Layne's sound] droney-next-level harmonious compellingly distinct and uber creative work is some of the most wow sh!t loads there be.
Altho imitation can be flattery, this will never be fully done, in Layne's case. [i love the attention u give it, nonetheless]
Great video as always. Can you do a break down of 18 and life by skidrow as well?
You should listen to the 'demo' version of Rooster - one of THE best versions and you can then realize that bottom jaw 'stupid' voice as you consistently mention really isn't there. If you know AIC, you'll realize many different styles of singing Layne had. Even his background vocals were different. He had such a versatility to his sound & voice that MOST ppl don't know and it shows in their videos.
The jaw thing isn’t stupid. It’s how people Re processing their annunciation while singing. He used his jaw more than some other folks. Certainly isn’t stupid.
@@SterlingRJackson I was repeating your words to describe it!
@@casey10bbwell shit haha
Thanks for your content❤
Great Job man!
Have you listened to greta van fleets new album? I'd love to hear your honest opinion of them, in general! Cheers M8
You are a phenomenal singer. But from my ears there’s a couple thing your voice is missing. It’s missing that pain and addiction voice. You remind me ALOT of Chris Cornell. Laynes voice was like a gravel road that took you someplace you’ve never been, and you’ll never want to leave. Chris Cornell’s voice was gods personal paved driveway
Always preferred Layne's voice, not a fan of Chris tone honestly. Even though they sounded similar, Staley, Cornell, Vedder and such, there were clear differences. I'd say Weiland was one of the best after Staley.
That’s an interesting analysis of layne and chris’ voice, and being a huge fan of both my whole life, like basically my two favorite singers of all time huge fan, I’d have to say you’re right. Gravel road / paved road lol so accurate. Cornell rips portals through time with what seems to him little effort but Layne has the same range but has so much pain/hurt you can feel which is why Layne is my favorite. Layne is definitely a man born in wrong generation, he’d be much more idolized in todays society
My opinion when you sing the part “you know he ain’t gonna diiiieeeee” no no no oha ooo … “ you force it too high , sounds more natural and better when you use you deep power / distorted voice ,, any who.. great video beautiful voice
that opiate graspy voice same with alxohol and ciggies
13:57 I've been trying to get distortion up high and I can do a James Hetfield distortion at chest and more nosey. When I do it for sometime my voice does that at head/falsetto and It makes another type of distortion that its uncontrollable that sounds like that. What do you thing I'd need to do? (I have breath support down) Also these videos are great, cause you get into the details of what rock singers do to make the sounds that they do. 💯💯
Sounds like you’re pushing too hard and then your voice is breaking and you’re getting vocal cord distortion. Upper pallet distortion might be easier to find in straight up head voice and then learn to bring it down into chest. It’s easier to find closer to your bridge but there’s some elements of making it work like mixed voice and keeping the throat open. I’ve made some videos about it if you search my page 😊
Bro is dropping Stewie Griffin ad libs in the middle of the video 😂😂😂
Thanks for your videos!!!🎉
😊
Does someone like layne having sort of cracks and 'meat getting in the way' in natural way of speaking help in not tiring out their voice when they do distortion? Granted there is always some 'intentional' adding of distortion for affect. I notice a lot of these singers like Vedder, Cobain etc have a vocal fry kind of crackle just in their normal speech.
do you think you could do a video on how to belt high notes with rasp and distortion like chris cornell? im able to do it but not properly, i just sound like a croakier axle rose and it's not very appealing and i cant find any tutorials to do it
Hey Sterling dude😊 got a question, when you were teaching the squeaky door technique to achieve M3 or Flagolet, should I be in head voice placement or chest voice placement? When I try this I don't know which area of the throat to be, I appreciate it dude , great video😊
Flageolet is a head voice coordination. Squeaky door is used to help your bridge between chest and head voice. It’s used to help one recognize what muscles they can use to help bridge the gap between chest and head but… taken up high enough you can merge into flageolet too. 😊
My opinion when you sing the part “you know he ain’t gonna diiiieeeee” no no no oha ooo … “ you force it too high , sounds more natural and better when you use you deep power / distorted voice ,, any who.. great video beautiful voice
Also for rooster singing the beginning 2 harmonies, I can only do the lower one, the higher one is a little too high😢 is this m2 ? If so then I'm not stretching as high as a should/ could be. Also with that higher harmony it's really airy and I can't quite get there. It's this a chord closure issue or not enough compression? Super annoying😂
The high one is fucking high man, so don’t sweat it too much but remember, you need to have your chords completely together “head voice”. Any air leakage and it certainly won’t work. Gotta take the Mickey Mouse voice and stretch it up high.
@SterlingRJackson awesome 😆 I'm doing really good lately with singing almost everything in that higher open placement, like Roxanne, or No Rain, radiohead stuff, alice in chains, even nirvana, I've been able to sing it in a head voice placement instead of my old chest voice ways, I'm able to get way up there but I still feel like I'm hitting a ceiling which makes me think I need to work on M3 placement. I will try to go back thru your videos and see what I can't get figured out. I appreciate the help dude 🙏
Teach me the way, senpai
Yay!
Could anyone help me answer this..? How do I get a mic set up like he has and make it come through a monitor and put effects in it as well. How do I figure out the stuff I need to buy for this?
fl studio, ableton, some other softwares. you need a compressed mic i think its called need like audiotechnica at2020s or sumn with the xlr or dxr cable something running to an interface a behringer 1 channel is cheap or if you play instruments along you can get a 2 channel interface but yea besides all that a boom arm
do you have a flange type effect on your vocal or is it just compression?
No it’s the stupid program I used to record all of my audio. Always some issue going on 😂. Sorry! Trying to figure out better methods all of the time but something is always going wrong
@@SterlingRJacksonwhat program brother
Poop in the old pants😂
I just listened to the original, and I think you’re over the top with the yarling thing. Otherwise, pretty good.
There's a weird phase thing on your voice. It's distracting.
Whatever lol.
LOL 😂
Nice try, but I disagree. Keep practicing though.