4:30, I just realized that Brad started becoming a mutant around this time. Emotional/physical stress on the body is what is a catalyst for joy users to turn into mutants. It was Buddy who made Brad realize that he was a failure and hurt her the most. This made Brad ultimately become a mutant. Buddy turned Brad into a mutant.
Honestly, the worst realization is that no matter what you do, Brad is screwed from the get-go. He's had too much Joy. And that stuff is what turns people into mutants. It was going to happen, and Buzzo decided to accelerate it if you weren't taking it regularly throughout the game.
The first time I played through the game, the reveal of Rando and Brad being father and son flew completely over my head. I had put the game down for a period of time, and I completely forgot about the bit where Brad lets him into the dojo. Now that I know, though... God, that's heavy.
It's not explicitly said in The Painful outside that one scene, but Rando uses Armstrong style against you which I think gets the point across beautifully without spelling it out for you
I know I'm watching this super late, but I looked for a silent playthrough after watching hboberguy's analysis on this and your's was perfect! Pain Mode, joyless and you seemed to know what you were doing. Thanks for this!
@Me oh yeah definitely. This is one of my favorite games of all time. The only popular TH-camr I’ve seen play this was GtLive but they only played 1 part
Came for the story, stayed for the story. I love games like this, with the Hotline Miami type vibe, you don't see many gripping gritty psychological stories in games very often.
Followed all the way to the end! I really liked this game playthrough, it's pretty well done and moderately paced. Made for a great way to pass the time! I still think it would have been cool to face off against Mad Dog and Fly. But you know how the saying goes, "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
+James Bot Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed it. The game really hit home for me when I first played it and I wanted to share it with the world, in one way or the other. :) If you liked this, check out my playlist for it's expansion/sequel! th-cam.com/video/zu1bO4zZ6RU/w-d-xo.html It continues the story immediately, so if you want more LISA goodness, here you go! ...also, that's a perfect saying for what happened with them.
No problem man! I can't wait to get started on more Lisa, there's just an odd satisfaction in seeing someone play through such a good game like this. I quite like the game myself, it has quite a lot of thought and time put into it and the reviews speak for themselves. Say, you have a Steam account, right? Perhaps we could add each other?
This game goes beyond bounds. Hell i'm impressed, nothing got to me that much before. It was a exhilarating trip to hell THAT's for sure! Thanks for playing this through I really enjoyed the watch. Honestly it was what I was looking for throughout this whole little series. The silence of the game gets to me the most better than some Laughing TH-camr making jokes at every section. Now the game wasn't fully dark, it had some light spots and even some humour. Something new for a change.
+Timothy Parham Thanks for watching it all! (And the Joyful, just saw your other comment!) I'm happy to have shared the experience.. it was definitely the perfect balance of complete silly lunacy coupled with depressing serious subject matter. Even some of the subplots hit both sides of the spectrum, like the Rangers. The ending definitely got to me, though.. shed some tears over that one. It's weird how lately it's the smaller indie titles that really make you feel emotions rather than the big AAA releases. I guess you can take bigger chances when the budget is lower and you're not trying to sell a billion copies... it's definitely better for it. The graphics were fitting and creative, especially the Joy mutants. I bought the soundtrack as well, I liked it a lot.. quite some varied stuff. The story was A+ to me.. I think the mark of a good story is when you want to know more about the world. I also like when you learn more and more about the world through tidbits and idle talk rather than having it just shoveled down your throat. By the end of Joyful, you can pretty much piece together what happened... but it never blatantly says so. It's funny, I hear that a lot about people being glad I'm not just screaming over the videos. :P Now, I do some videos where I talk over them, but it's usually if I'm playing multiplayer crap with friends. I definitely think there's a time and a place for that kind of stuff, but games like this? They can speak for themselves.
You took the words right out of my mouth, but hey I can see the fact of what games can show value by it's story rather than it's titles. But also by the way we should play some multiplayer games together dude. I wouldn't mind hopping on your train (Excuse those who will take that the wrong way. Huehue.) But I enjoyed the gameplay and I look forward to seeing all your vids. You earned my Subscribe. Hopefully soon i'll have content as well. I just don't have the gut to record since I lack a motive.
+Se05239 Thank you very much for watching, glad you liked it! I was so thoroughly surprised at how much I liked this one. It really came out of nowhere.. I remember seeing screenshots and thinking it looked neat, but I never thought anything of it until one day I saw it go on sale... I just played all the way through it in pretty much one day. It's rare that you can honestly say a game made you feel feelings, but this one really got to me. I loved it, I wish more people heard of it.. kind of the main reason I made this. :) It really makes me wonder what other gems have flown under the radar..
Qaladan Considering how filled the gaming market is with trash that looks similar to this, I'd imagine a whole lot are lost in the mess. But when the gems are found, everyone gain knowledge of it. Just look at Undertale, what a smash hit that one was and it even looks worse than this in some aspects. People commonly think that the graphics make the game. LISA and other games have proven that wrong.
I put up the expansion (Lisa the Joyful) on here as well. It clears a lot of things up! Some stuff is forever a mystery though... But I think wanting to know more is the mark of a good story. :)
so I know taking joy or not can affect the ending but does being selfless over sacrificing party members affect the ending or just the games difficulty? I'm thinking about doing a joyful selfish run on my channel.
As far as I remember, there essentially is only 1 ending with 3 different post game scenes. Joyful, Joyless, and Pain Mode. I believe being in Pain Mode overrides the other 2 and there is no real difference whether you are selfish or not (besides a bit of dialogue as you go along and achievements) Going by memory though. :) Good luck with the run if you go for it!
@@АлександрГоголев-л6н no not really. Have you played the game? If not, the whole purpose of the joy mutants (who were former humans who did Joy Drugs) is to indulge themselves into violence and sexual pleasure. And/or simply act out on their deepest/darkest desire. So Brad's whole desire when he become a joy mutant was to protect Buddy at all cost. So no, he's not an "evil mutant".
+Will Collins He can do it because he's THAT manly! I assumed he used his teeth or something, but it does always make me laugh when I think about it. :)
+Will Collins Since he's a martial arts master, I assume he's got amazing balance.. so I'll give a pass for the bike riding. :P Now as for the motorcycle... uhhhhhhh....
It's a few things (at least in my opinion) I think it's easier to identify with Brad because he's the hero of the game, so automatically side with him.. but from Buddy's perspective... Brad denied her any choice in life, he thought he knew best. He murders everyone around her, even taking on his oldest friends. He openly refers to her as his "second chance" since he failed his sister when he was younger. In the game universe, regardless of player action, he was a drug addict for many years. As the player, you can choose to finally stop it.. but at that point it's already way too late. She's told that she's the savior of the world by everyone else but Brad wants to keep her to himself (and therefore safe, but again, this is from her point of view) You end up doing some monstrous stuff through the playthrough. Again, you can make your Brad a little nicer and try to repent your sins, but you still do horrible things. Also, it makes it tragic and sad... makes it a better story. :P I think if you watch the Lisa the Joyful playthrough I have on my channel you'll get a bigger look into her personality! You also get other scenes of Brad raising her and pretty much get to see her real feelings. It's worth a watch if you enjoyed this. :)
Also don't forget how he murder Marty before her very eyes... Marty was a monster but he saved her... and remember after the fight? "nothing remains" NOTHING...REMAINS... Brad didn't just beat him, he broke his body until it was nothing but bloody pulp, before buddy that knew nothing about his past.
Thats a good explanation, but I also think that she doesnt comprehend what, ahem "saving the world" involves, 50% of the characters you find through the game want to rape her ffs, we in regular society would very much preffer being isolatted than taking chances of being repeatedly pregnant-by-rape in a society without medicine
yeah i kinda felt the same way. some of the things she hates him for arent things she should reasonably have the persepective TOO hate him for. her being in that house for so long and not having choice makes sense from the perspective of a modern adult but it would more likely imprint such perspectives of the world as terrifying onto buddy. now that is pretty messed up but i see it as a failing on the writers part because it is budy's naivety that makes her hate brad in other areas such as not understanding what people mean when they say she is the worlds future or the depths of martys monterousness. tldr the writer is having his cake and eating it too.
A bit late but he mutated from doing all the Joy drugs throughout the game/prior to the game. It just finally caught up with him as he was dying. Kind of saved him/left him to live in a waking nightmare.
Qaladan yeah, I eventually figured that out, anyway thanks for playing this and the joyful, I watch both playthroughs and they were amazing games... But why did u make Buddy a joy addict in the joyful?
@@seizuresalad1558 i had assumed it wasnt possible to do it joyless to then prove myself wrong. like i did a joyless then got world record in lisa epilogues catigory. excuse the brag but i dont have much to my name to that, if it came off dickish im sorry for that but i eventually figured it out
So the Game can be resume as "I tried be a good father but my actions only caused pain to my daughter, the sister that i can't protected in the past, and finally end all on a hug that I never felt before"?
@@bigenemy000 yeah that part where Rando mask is destroyed and he starts to cry and Brad cries too... man, yeah i don't think i will ever recover from that part
Irons Actually, getting forced to eat a bunch of Joy Drugs does count, because...well, taking Joy will mutate your cells and become a violent, mass of flesh
Brad has been using Joy for a major period of his life (as shown in the prologue), even before he found Buddy. So even if you don't use Joy at all during your playthrough, it's already too late for Brad...
considering the first LISA game, i assume Brad just blocks out all the bad memories other than Lisa's due to his already fucked up mental state from their father's abuse.
Buzzo mutilated his face with a saw, to get at Brad. Brad then walked away and (if I recall) severed contact with Dusty to protect him from further attacks.
4:30, I just realized that Brad started becoming a mutant around this time.
Emotional/physical stress on the body is what is a catalyst for joy users to turn into mutants.
It was Buddy who made Brad realize that he was a failure and hurt her the most.
This made Brad ultimately become a mutant.
Buddy turned Brad into a mutant.
Thank you Lightning McQueen. KaChow!!
@@fuqueroji Kachow!
Also the sowrds arrows and cuts all over his body
5:08 He doesnt take damage from a fall for the first time in game. He has gone past the point of no return with the joy influence and mutation
holy i just realise that
OMG , me2, i just realized
Honestly, the worst realization is that no matter what you do, Brad is screwed from the get-go. He's had too much Joy. And that stuff is what turns people into mutants. It was going to happen, and Buzzo decided to accelerate it if you weren't taking it regularly throughout the game.
The first time I played through the game, the reveal of Rando and Brad being father and son flew completely over my head. I had put the game down for a period of time, and I completely forgot about the bit where Brad lets him into the dojo. Now that I know, though... God, that's heavy.
Cool!
It's not explicitly said in The Painful outside that one scene, but Rando uses Armstrong style against you which I think gets the point across beautifully without spelling it out for you
I know I'm watching this super late, but I looked for a silent playthrough after watching hboberguy's analysis on this and your's was perfect! Pain Mode, joyless and you seemed to know what you were doing. Thanks for this!
Thanks for stopping by! I love that a lot of people have been able to enjoy my playthrough, this is one of my favorite underrated games of all time.
@Me criminally underrated
@Me oh yeah definitely. This is one of my favorite games of all time. The only popular TH-camr I’ve seen play this was GtLive but they only played 1 part
“Super late”
Me who is 6 years late: *sweats profusely*
"I've been dead for 35 years. Today is the day I live." is one of the greatest lines I've ever seen from a game
Came for the story, stayed for the story. I love games like this, with the Hotline Miami type vibe, you don't see many gripping gritty psychological stories in games very often.
Followed all the way to the end! I really liked this game playthrough, it's pretty well done and moderately paced. Made for a great way to pass the time!
I still think it would have been cool to face off against Mad Dog and Fly. But you know how the saying goes, "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
+James Bot Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed it. The game really hit home for me when I first played it and I wanted to share it with the world, in one way or the other. :)
If you liked this, check out my playlist for it's expansion/sequel!
th-cam.com/video/zu1bO4zZ6RU/w-d-xo.html
It continues the story immediately, so if you want more LISA goodness, here you go!
...also, that's a perfect saying for what happened with them.
No problem man! I can't wait to get started on more Lisa, there's just an odd satisfaction in seeing someone play through such a good game like this. I quite like the game myself, it has quite a lot of thought and time put into it and the reviews speak for themselves.
Say, you have a Steam account, right? Perhaps we could add each other?
+James Bot steamcommunity.com/id/Qaladan/ A link to my profile. :) Feel free to add me!
@@JamesMcCloud966 What Happened Buddy?
After all this and joyful, brad still survives in his own weird fucked up way.
You call throwing firebombs a martial art?
Haduken Confirmed
Hey,atleast it works
Brad:Bad Guys, It was meet to nice you... Goodbye.
Jarate 2.0
Buddy could not beat Mr Angonelli who is a toilet cleaner, but she could beat Big Lincoln who is the #1 Warlord in all Olathe
She didn't have a sword, and she was a lot stronger by that point. Besides, it's a videogame.
And she was joyed
She was level 1 at that point.
@@idkbro.9583 Level 0*
@@Somespideronline actually, it makes sense, surely she didn't had any stat lol
Dude at 14:53 was so scared he vanished out of sight
And then he came back just to get f*cked up lmao
This game goes beyond bounds. Hell i'm impressed, nothing got to me that much before. It was a exhilarating trip to hell THAT's for sure! Thanks for playing this through I really enjoyed the watch. Honestly it was what I was looking for throughout this whole little series. The silence of the game gets to me the most better than some Laughing TH-camr making jokes at every section. Now the game wasn't fully dark, it had some light spots and even some humour. Something new for a change.
+Timothy Parham Thanks for watching it all! (And the Joyful, just saw your other comment!) I'm happy to have shared the experience.. it was definitely the perfect balance of complete silly lunacy coupled with depressing serious subject matter. Even some of the subplots hit both sides of the spectrum, like the Rangers. The ending definitely got to me, though.. shed some tears over that one. It's weird how lately it's the smaller indie titles that really make you feel emotions rather than the big AAA releases. I guess you can take bigger chances when the budget is lower and you're not trying to sell a billion copies... it's definitely better for it.
The graphics were fitting and creative, especially the Joy mutants. I bought the soundtrack as well, I liked it a lot.. quite some varied stuff. The story was A+ to me.. I think the mark of a good story is when you want to know more about the world. I also like when you learn more and more about the world through tidbits and idle talk rather than having it just shoveled down your throat. By the end of Joyful, you can pretty much piece together what happened... but it never blatantly says so.
It's funny, I hear that a lot about people being glad I'm not just screaming over the videos. :P Now, I do some videos where I talk over them, but it's usually if I'm playing multiplayer crap with friends. I definitely think there's a time and a place for that kind of stuff, but games like this? They can speak for themselves.
You took the words right out of my mouth, but hey I can see the fact of what games can show value by it's story rather than it's titles. But also by the way we should play some multiplayer games together dude. I wouldn't mind hopping on your train (Excuse those who will take that the wrong way. Huehue.) But I enjoyed the gameplay and I look forward to seeing all your vids. You earned my Subscribe. Hopefully soon i'll have content as well. I just don't have the gut to record since I lack a motive.
Thank you for doing such a great walkthrough of the game!
A golden egg in a clusterf*ck of rotten ones.
+Se05239 Thank you very much for watching, glad you liked it!
I was so thoroughly surprised at how much I liked this one. It really came out of nowhere.. I remember seeing screenshots and thinking it looked neat, but I never thought anything of it until one day I saw it go on sale... I just played all the way through it in pretty much one day. It's rare that you can honestly say a game made you feel feelings, but this one really got to me. I loved it, I wish more people heard of it.. kind of the main reason I made this. :) It really makes me wonder what other gems have flown under the radar..
Qaladan Considering how filled the gaming market is with trash that looks similar to this, I'd imagine a whole lot are lost in the mess.
But when the gems are found, everyone gain knowledge of it. Just look at Undertale, what a smash hit that one was and it even looks worse than this in some aspects.
People commonly think that the graphics make the game. LISA and other games have proven that wrong.
@@Se05239 You clearly haven't played much games?
modern era is graphics only
yet there are games that are sound only
super late comment i know, but you pausing on fighting him to cry along with rando made my heart die a little on the inside!
Brad's "I've been dead for 35 years. Today is the day I live" gave me damn chills. Great playthrough, by the way.
Jesus Christ what an ending. I have so many questions..
I put up the expansion (Lisa the Joyful) on here as well. It clears a lot of things up! Some stuff is forever a mystery though... But I think wanting to know more is the mark of a good story. :)
so I know taking joy or not can affect the ending but does being selfless over sacrificing party members affect the ending or just the games difficulty? I'm thinking about doing a joyful selfish run on my channel.
As far as I remember, there essentially is only 1 ending with 3 different post game scenes. Joyful, Joyless, and Pain Mode. I believe being in Pain Mode overrides the other 2 and there is no real difference whether you are selfish or not (besides a bit of dialogue as you go along and achievements)
Going by memory though. :) Good luck with the run if you go for it!
@@QaladansParty What Happened to Brad?
@@АлександрГоголев-л6н he became a mutant dude
@@Somespideronline Whoa! It's evil mutant?
@@АлександрГоголев-л6н no not really. Have you played the game? If not, the whole purpose of the joy mutants (who were former humans who did Joy Drugs) is to indulge themselves into violence and sexual pleasure. And/or simply act out on their deepest/darkest desire. So Brad's whole desire when he become a joy mutant was to protect Buddy at all cost. So no, he's not an "evil mutant".
How does Brad climb those ropes with no hands?
+Will Collins He can do it because he's THAT manly!
I assumed he used his teeth or something, but it does always make me laugh when I think about it. :)
Qaladan That or he uses his arm-stumps to agonizingly pinch the rope... same with riding his bike. Are arm-stumps enough?
+Will Collins Since he's a martial arts master, I assume he's got amazing balance.. so I'll give a pass for the bike riding. :P
Now as for the motorcycle... uhhhhhhh....
+Qaladan He uses his chin to steer.
On that note, how is he throwing firebombs?
Never understood why Budy hated Brad so much. :0c
It's a few things (at least in my opinion)
I think it's easier to identify with Brad because he's the hero of the game, so automatically side with him.. but from Buddy's perspective...
Brad denied her any choice in life, he thought he knew best.
He murders everyone around her, even taking on his oldest friends.
He openly refers to her as his "second chance" since he failed his sister when he was younger.
In the game universe, regardless of player action, he was a drug addict for many years. As the player, you can choose to finally stop it.. but at that point it's already way too late.
She's told that she's the savior of the world by everyone else but Brad wants to keep her to himself (and therefore safe, but again, this is from her point of view)
You end up doing some monstrous stuff through the playthrough. Again, you can make your Brad a little nicer and try to repent your sins, but you still do horrible things.
Also, it makes it tragic and sad... makes it a better story. :P
I think if you watch the Lisa the Joyful playthrough I have on my channel you'll get a bigger look into her personality! You also get other scenes of Brad raising her and pretty much get to see her real feelings. It's worth a watch if you enjoyed this. :)
Also don't forget how he murder Marty before her very eyes... Marty was a monster but he saved her... and remember after the fight? "nothing remains" NOTHING...REMAINS... Brad didn't just beat him, he broke his body until it was nothing but bloody pulp, before buddy that knew nothing about his past.
Thats a good explanation, but I also think that she doesnt comprehend what, ahem "saving the world" involves, 50% of the characters you find through the game want to rape her ffs, we in regular society would very much preffer being isolatted than taking chances of being repeatedly pregnant-by-rape in a society without medicine
yeah i kinda felt the same way.
some of the things she hates him for arent things she should reasonably have the persepective TOO hate him for.
her being in that house for so long and not having choice makes sense from the perspective of a modern adult but it would more likely imprint such perspectives of the world as terrifying onto buddy. now that is pretty messed up but i see it as a failing on the writers part because it is budy's naivety that makes her hate brad in other areas such as not understanding what people mean when they say she is the worlds future or the depths of martys monterousness.
tldr the writer is having his cake and eating it too.
@@bradpotts1747 dingaling already said that buddy is the worst character in his works, she has a messiah complex
What the.. 6 years ago? TH-cam recommend me some good video, finally
23:27...could someone explain wtf happened to brad and why he’s suddenly fat after he DIED and isn’t dead?
A bit late but he mutated from doing all the Joy drugs throughout the game/prior to the game. It just finally caught up with him as he was dying. Kind of saved him/left him to live in a waking nightmare.
Qaladan yeah, I eventually figured that out, anyway thanks for playing this and the joyful, I watch both playthroughs and they were amazing games...
But why did u make Buddy a joy addict in the joyful?
@@seizuresalad1558 i had assumed it wasnt possible to do it joyless to then prove myself wrong. like i did a joyless then got world record in lisa epilogues catigory.
excuse the brag but i dont have much to my name to that, if it came off dickish im sorry for that but i eventually figured it out
Never heard about this game or have any idea that it even exist. Looks interesting so I might try playing it later
It's a good psychological game. Try it
14:53 bro was so scared he vanished 💀
So the Game can be resume as "I tried be a good father but my actions only caused pain to my daughter, the sister that i can't protected in the past, and finally end all on a hug that I never felt before"?
Whats the name of the ost that starts playing in 12:24? I came back to the community after a few Years hehe
Goodbye baby
Rando did nothing wrong.
At least he wasn't killed by Brad but only knocked out.
@@bigenemy000 yeah that part where Rando mask is destroyed and he starts to cry and Brad cries too... man, yeah i don't think i will ever recover from that part
Wait, but you never used the Joy, why did you become Joyful monster? I thought that moment when you were forced to take drugs doesn't count! D:
Irons Actually, getting forced to eat a bunch of Joy Drugs does count, because...well, taking Joy will mutate your cells and become a violent, mass of flesh
Brad has been using Joy for a major period of his life (as shown in the prologue), even before he found Buddy. So even if you don't use Joy at all during your playthrough, it's already too late for Brad...
It turns out, being forced to take drugs is the same as taking them yourself.
@@jutton11 No, really? I was so sure that without your consent, the drugs couldn't enter your body D:
@@whitefri2z Sadly drugs don't respect nonconsent.
Brad doesnt remember anything but the good times, life isnt all good times. I wonder about the parts he didnt remember.
considering the first LISA game, i assume Brad just blocks out all the bad memories other than Lisa's due to his already fucked up mental state from their father's abuse.
Omg Aris needs to play this! #avoidingthepuddle
Poor Shocklord
What happened at the end with dusty i dont understand it
Buzzo mutilated his face with a saw, to get at Brad.
Brad then walked away and (if I recall) severed contact with Dusty to protect him from further attacks.
@@Sneakysneaky88 thx
How he climb rope with no arms
He's got a strong bite
hi thank you
Tell me please name, from final location
You should've change harvey with terry hintz.
I didnt know richard stallman had a game
I hate Brad, he killed Saúl fishman