An Early Look at Natlan! [Genshin Impact Theory]
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The fact that we know more of Khaenriah so far than Natlan itself makes the Pyro nation more exciting and mysterious.
Hoyo is going to go Final Lesson on our asses once again I just know it😭😭😭
Not to mention hoyo has managed to keep any info from leakers which adds to the theory that all leaks are primarily "controlled" by hoyo themselves
It's kind of ironic that this is the case since the archetype of fire is usually very forthcoming. Like, in MTG, Red is relatively straightforward to play. The playstyle is all about dealing as much damage as possible by attacking as often as possible, or dealing direct damage through sorceries and instants. Fire is bold and is usually very animated, rash, and even Murata seems to be that way, yet for some raisin, we know little of Natlan.
I am in total shock that Natlan will release this year! I remember playing the game back in Inazuma and thought I’d never see the day…but it’s almost here!
Dude same here
exactly my thoughts i actually had this with the fontaine institute aswell and couldnt believe i really got to witness the exploration and outstanding story of this place T^T
same
no cuz same here
I quit the game like 8 months right before Fontaine. Now Natlan is coming.
I have a theory to why we see no Natlan NPCs. I think that Bennett is from Natlan because of his green eyes and white hair. And i think there is a curse that if Natlanese leave the nation, they will striked with the worst bad luck ever and die. Which actually makes Bennett the luckiest of the Natlanese
OMG I love that
or his mother since he was born with bad luck, on feb 29th so can only have a birthday every 4 years
I saw a similar (kinda not really) theory saying that the reason Bennett had such bad luck was because he was unknowingly wielding the pyro gnosis, which the gnosis are said to bring bad luck or something
My wild guess is that if the NPCs leave Natlan, they'd be expelled from ever going back (tribe rules), or they'll suffer the Bennett Curse, etc. Or yeah, maybe Hoyo straight up chose to not make any.
I’m still coping Bennett is from Mondstadt. So we don’t have another Sumeru on our hands.
@@WackyChuwhat’s wrong with Sumeru?
@@jaxxcrybaby Blud is sounding like a Genshin-leaks-sub Redditor with backhanded comments like that.
It's best not to engage with them or else they'll start listing things coming in future patches.
@@WackyChusumeru is one of the best nation kiddo,stop coping
@@ericsai744 me or the other guy?
12:50 sometimes y’all theories just dont make sense cus you dont talk to npcs. there’s an npc in inazuma who traveled to natlan and inspired by natlan then opened up hot spring in inazuma, an npc in fontaine says that he has a gf from natlan and they already are planning their wedding and hes worried about his assimilation in the tribe, there’s even an npc who says she deserves a vacation in natlan after her work is done. i mean people wouldn’t say al this if the borders were closed or if all people were dead
sorry the only npc i care about is the one in liyue who drinks tea and says the traveler looks hot
@@SizzlingSocks girl that’s why you’re not a theorist
@@SizzlingSocks who's that?
Also I think people are forgetting that Natlan is the last nation the Fatui have to steal the gnosis from. So endgame is coming earlier than some people might have guessed.
Copium game never gonna end they will farm you guys like stupid brainless cows.
there’s another option, which is that we successfully protect the gnoses, and the snezhnaya archon quest is about trying to keep it safe at all costs
@@staarfall5317 that goes against all the nations quests where we actually go to that nation. So I doubt that’s the case but good theory regardless.
I highly doubt that the Fatui will be the final big bad when Mihoyo seems to be building up the Abyss Order as this world ending threat.
I'm probably wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if the Fatui are only trying to get the gnosis to make some sort of super weapon to use against the Abyss.
Not quite!
From what is known so far, there is still one more nation after Sneznaya!
I would say ADB Illustrates has a great video and says that Murata isn’t the actual archon because the archon is constantly changing and dying with Murata as a title for the current living archon. Likely the gnosis is being taken or passed to the next victor for the total of Murata.
If capitan is fighting in the wars he may be trying to win the right of being the pyro archon and thus full control over the gnosis by playing by the regions own rules instead of subterfuge.
i cant believe the absolute torment the name of murata goes through in the hoyoverse that in genshin, people die in her name
Other theories suggest that we actually win the gnosis in Natlan and that is how we expose Capitano. It makes sense because otherwise the Fatui have won if they get the Pyro Gnosis.
There is also reason to believe that Murata actually has died because we know that she was the Archon during the time Venessa was in Teyvat, which should be before the Catalcysm. We could have a completely new "Archon" situation like Furina without them knowing that Murata is somewhere being a phoenix egg.
I want to add an idea: There has been no mention of the present archon. Normally, you would expect the last person you talk to in the region archon quest to reveal what they're like. Yae talks about Buer, Nahida talks about Furina, but Neuvilette talks about the region itself only which is strange. This could mean that there currently is no true hold.of the gnosis and that is probably why war is avid in the country because whichever tribe holds the gnosis calls the shots.
I remember seeing a theory of how visions can reflect the archons, specifically for pyro, every vision holder’s story has a theme of “passing down the torch”, so what if the tribal war is for who should hold the role of the pyro archon?
so a succession war. and a very mutated person from there returns to wreak havoc. men i wish hoyo will make natlan's story like the clan invasion of battletech in a sense.
I watched that one it was fire (get the joke?$
Some complementary infos :
- Iansan -
is undoubtibly inspired by and is genshin version of the Orisha Warrior Goddess Ọya also known as Ọya-ìyáńsàn-án, Yansã (in afro-brazillian comdomblé religion) or Iansan.
The Orishas are the Pantheon of divinities from West Africa (similar to the Olympiand in greek myths) more precisely from the Yoruba religious tradition. In fact, they are Afro-Latin American deities because they were introduced/brought to them by the slave trade.
They are Beings of divine essence that represent the forces of Nature particularly worshiped in Nigeria and Benin. In America they are known in the Brazilian candomblé as Orixás.
Like you said, Iansan aka "She who tore" in Yoruba myth is the warrior Orisha (Goddess) who governs fire, storms, lightning, hurricanes, water, death and rebirth. She is the mother who fulfills, protect and fight for her children and sweeps away evil, illness and misfortune.
She loves verdure and red veggies this is why shes most communly associated with said color but in reality she represent the Rainbow and its beautiful bright colors and each colors represent an aspect of her. And for the colors Hoyoverse chose here is their meaning :
White (candomblé) : Purity, innocence, calm and peace
Green (eyes): Hope, faith, evolution and the cycle of life
Purple : Triumph, victory over loss, greatness
Brown (candomblé) : Spirituality, connection to Mother earth and our origin
Yellow : The Sun, the heat of life, energy, vitality
Orange : transmit Joy and Fortune, succes and realization of dreams
Pink (candomblé) : Security, sweetness, shelter and Ọyas maternal side
Some of her attributs are the scythe/machete, the buffalo head/horn, the whip, gravyard and Marketplace.
Her familiars are the water buffalo, fireflies, butterflies, dragon flies.
- Kompore -
Alternative spelling of the African name Kompaore from Burkina Faso.
- Burkina -
Well its from the African country Burkina Faso meaning homeland of upright people or homeland of integrity
- Sundjatta -
Is indeed Malian. Alternative spelling of the name Sundiata. From the Malian emperor Sundiata Keïta
- Sanhaj -
Is also indeed Amazigh, The origin of Sanhaja goes back to Sinhaj (Senag), son of Branès, son of Mazigh the ancestor of the Amazighen
Sanhaja was once a powerful confederation of Amazighens tribes whose territory stretches from southern Morocco to the Senegal River.
Anyway, from all the small bits of infos we got from the talking stick, I assume the constitution of the 6 different tribes will be as follow :
* Inca tribe
* Aztec tribe
* Ethiopian tribe
* Swahili/Central African tribe
* Volta Congo tribe
* Southern Africa/Northern-saharan tribe
It will likely be Genshin version of Chicomoztoc, the matrice, the womb, the birth place of the nahuatl speaking people in central Mesoamerica and mixed with Technoctitlan city fonction.
This was a great video, honestly my expectation for Natlan are so high its kinda of crazy. Dragons ? More native american and african representation in a huge media like Genshin Impact ? Sign me up... tho im also scared... will they be able to handle it ? Cause some aspect of Sumeru was... questionable to say the least because of stereotypes (dori), Colorism (Dehya, Candace, Cyno) etc etc... we will see I guess
I'll be honest, in recent time (well, since about 4.0) i started to doubt if Murata was even real and it's mostly from a few posts that i've seen (and verified myself) that talk about the CN translation of the manga (One by I. King on Hoyolab and another by u/Alalalagia on r/genshin_lore). These are just some summaries from those posts:
"The last two Chinese characters of "Murata" (穆纳塔) are identical to those used for "Natlan" (纳塔). In other words, with modern Genshin knowledge, "Murata" would more directly translate to "Mu-Natlan", and the "Muratan people" the "Mu-Natlan people". Note how "Natlan" itself never appears in the English translation despite those exact characters (纳塔) appearing in the original text. Given this context, Venti is saying that Vennessa carries herself as a "person of Mu-Natlan", and that "the people of Mu-Natlan" live in the volcanic territories of the west.
"Murata" (Mu-Natlan) in Genshin does not come close to matching "Murata" in the original Chinese for Honkai, where her name is 无量塔姬子, or Wuliangta Jizi (meaning Immeasurable Tower, as a fun fact). If you want to look at the kanji for Himeko's name, we get 無量塔姫子: still only 1 matching character, the "ta" (塔). These are different words lacking even phonetic connections in both the original Chinese and Himeko's Japanese."
Overall, from checking CN version of the manga myself, i think Venti only uses Mu-Natlan (Or Natlatian, how i decided to say it for now) ones to refer to Vanessa's origin and only Says the God of Fire or God of War. I think it's quite possible, since manga predated the game itself, that localizers used Murata from Honkai since it looks similar and thought that what was implied in original text.
Also, i didn't see much talk about it outside of roozevelt but it's interesting that:
We know now that, seemingly, shade of life was connected/used to primordial water (Fontaine wings).
We also know that shade of time (Istaroth) connected(might have used) to the wind.
Then we have Primal fire mentioned during Neuvillette's twitter announcement:
"Someday, when they return, their true ordeal shall begin.
- Xbalanque, One Entombed With the Primal Fire"
But also actually comes up as an actual thing during Narzissenkreuz Ordo notes:
"Someone's Diary
...According to Mr. Ingold, the Master is performing "the Great Ritual." He said it has to do with the celestial bodies and the Primal Fire... The details are not to be divulged, or the "sanctity of silence and self-driven will" will be broken... Great focus and separation from the world must be maintained... For a time after this, Mr. Ingold will take charge of..."
Which i think was brought by Madam M. Laveaux based on this:
"Madam M. Laveaux, formal Narzissenkreuz Ordo member, Level 4.
After returning home from Natlan, Madam Laveaux has since dedicated herself enthusiastically to the grand ideals of Narzissenkreuz. An authority on beauty, she is also highly skilled in divination using ███, making her very popular with the other ladies. Not only has she provided the Ordo with █████ from Natlan, but she has also contributed greatly to promoting the Ordo's good name in high society."
Interestingly, Madam Laveaux also mentioned briefly in the same "Someone's Diary" that mentioned Primal Fire.
Additionally, with the whole theme of rebirth for Natlan, i wonder if Primal Fire is somehow connected/was used at some point by the shade of death.
And then shade of space might be connected to some other primal element
13:15 Also, i'm not sure this can be true, bc one of the sailors (Lectoure) at the Romaritime harbor says how they have a lover in Natlan ("My lady love in Natlan"). He also mentioned the tribes in the same dialogue, which she seems to be part of. So, unless he's in some freaky stuff, humans do seem to exist there
this has to be one of the best comments i’ve ever gotten, super in depth and helpful!! i didn’t know that about murata’s name either. it would make sense that that’s not the pyro archon’s real name since the name murata has already been used on an NPC from inazuma as well
@@orangejuicelexy If you're interested, i do recommend checking the original posts, since they're more indepth. I just tried to fit the most important stuff into short description.
But yeah, personally, i started to believe this since we had no mention of Murata outside of that one Manga dialogue bubble. Hoyo can still pivot into making Pyro Archon either look like Himeko or be connected in some way to her but i think this is something that should be considered when talking about Natlan
Primal fire huh...what if Arlecchino is connected to it? ppl have speculated in the past that she might be connected to the Ordo so maybe this experiment Rene was doing with celestial bodies and primal fire involves her somehow?
Also I agree, her secret is definitly her reincarnation shenanigans. I think just like Zhongli and Venti The Pyro archon is the Original archon but she has that cyclical death/rebirth things going on just like a phoenix.
I think shes going to fight Capitano for the gnosis ad she will loose BUT sometimes after he will come back.
Lets not forget Iansan is inspired by a deity incharge of death/rebirth MAYBE Iansan is the one who has to perform the ritual to resurrect her. Maybe like a priestess ahaah my mind is going places
There's an npc in Fontaine that has a girfriend in Natlan. He doesn't give much relevant info though. Just that there are many tribes and each of them have may rules.
My suspected theory is that:
- Capitano will fight Murata for the Gnosis and win it by defeating her in a duel.
- Murata will "die" (probably akin to suspended animation) and we will have to resurrect her.
Also:
The references to the Commedia dell'Arte characters seems to be the opposite of what genshin is using them:
- Tartaglia in the Commedia is an old man who stutters a lot, in Genshin he is the youngest Fatui and is straightforward/confident.
- Arlecchino in Commedia is plenty dumb and naive, in Genshin she is smart, calculative and far from naive.
- La Signora in Commedia is a "courtesan" who would repeatedly cheat on his man, in Genshin she became the Crimson Witch of Flame due to her grief for the loss of her loved one,
- Capitano in Commedia is a braggard who is all talk and no substance, in Genshin Capitano seems to be a man of action and likely of few words (Childe saw him fight so his strength seems like the real deal, Wanderer is tired of hearing OTHERS praising Capitano incessantly)
I know it's not lore related but I am SO excited for Natlan's music, considering it will have some central/south american vibes to it. When Genshin goes Flamenco/Salsa I'm going to cherish that music for the rest of my life for sure
real!! the music is the thing i’m most excited for :)
@@orangejuicelexy estoy tan emocionado de que ya viene Natlan, ojalá sea inspirado en mi cultura mexica, no son aztecas se llaman mexicas y ojalá que la arconte este basada en Huitzilopochtli, dios de la guerra que renace y trasciende en el universo como forma de colibrí (no como todos dicen que un fénix) y que el dragón primordial este inspirado en Quetzalcóatl, ente de la sabiduría, la serpiente emplumada.
They have already done flamenco in fontaine,france alongside spain italy and Victorian england are the main inspirations for fontaine according to Hoyoverse
There actually is a Natlan npc (not from Natlan but they did go there) in Inazuma, their name is Aikawa Susumu and they say
“Let the Aisa Bathhouse warm your heart. Experience the glamor of Natlan.”
“Ahh, it’s a traveler from afar. What a rare guest. Welcome.”
[select “the glamor of Natlan?” to continue the dialouge]
“Haha, it might be a little too much to call it ‘glamor’ … Aisa Bathhouse is a hot spring inn in Inazuma that I founded after experiencing the volcanic hotsprings in Natlan.”
“The healing power of a hot spring is unforgettable once you’ve tried it. After I returned home, I also wanted my friends in Inazuma to experience that same warm and comforting feeling.”
( he has more dialogue but its not related to Natlan).
Theres not much here but it does mean Natlan is a volcanic area, probably similar to the eldin region in breath of the wild with healing hot springs.
That could probably also do with the theme of life and death because its healing…….. idk.
That’s not..a natlan NPC 😅 that’s a NPC Talking ABOUT natlan. A natlan npc would be someone who’s actually from there
Ok few things
10:14 Capitno is a human. He is even called the strongest human in all of teyvat. I feel capitano is also not from natlan as you mentioned but from mondstadt, I really really believe he is the bloodstained knight
Xbalanque is known as One entombed with Primal Fire. I feel Primal Fire is like Primordial Water maybe? But Xbalanque is definitely a sovereign.
13:10 Some theories have stated maybe the reason nobody can leave Natlan is because due to how tribal and isolated they are, they might not even be aware of the outside world or they aren’t allowed to Inazuma style. Capitano entering Natlan maybe because he is a fatui diplomat and they get all kinds of rights.
13:40 actually there has been an inazuman npc since 1.0, she has escaped inazuma and is found in liyue harbour. You can find her in the port area iirc
Liben event is releasing soon, Liben should tell us more about Natlan
I am so excited for Natlan. I live for Natlan speculation videos and yours was just so good
liben🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
There is alot problems and holes with the bloodknight theory that it’s not even plausible anymore number 1, being that the bloodknight disappears 500 years ago, and has aligned themselves with the abyss, most who are with abyss hate gods, Capitano is loyal to one so that crosses that out and also all the harbingers up till this point have all been assigned regions they all hail from, or have connections too.
Neuvillette said there is no one like him in natlan so the xbalanque being sovereign less likely plus the name is “Entombed” which means someone who’s dead…
Natlan can be entered into, as many want to take a vacation there. There need the fatui to show their badges to get in.
@@RuslanBomj no he’s the strongest human.
@@RuslanBomj No it was human, plus that’s varka’s POV, which doesnt count cause, we ourselves havent met them, but its been leaked he’s the strongest human in teyvat, being the strongest individual would go to something like the celestials, or dragons.
My guess is that CURRENTLY there is no pyro archon, but they will end up ascending somewhere at the Archon quest. Perhaps it is ressurected pyro archon, perhaps a character we get atained to as the story goes on. The pyro archon who shares knowldge may even be dead, like a kind of memory or fragment.
im sure some natlan npc we gonna met are from mondstadt (muratan people/descendant who stay in mondstadt after the fall of aristocrats like vennessa) possible some are in dornman port mondstadt. Another the soundtrack of natlan is near similar sound of carinosa the philippine folk dance music
The closed beta test version had info that the pyro archon demon name is 'Aym', this version also had info on other names like Buer and Focalors, both turned out to be correct
Aym is also a demon that is known for putting buildings on fire-
I think Natlan will be based on Latin America with some “tribal” aesthetic. The name Iansan comes from the Brazilian way to write the name Iansã, which is the same pronunciation but in a more worldly friendly to pronounce. Her clothing styles seems to resemble the Candomblé clothing which is a Afro-Brazilian religion
Besides the music that comes from a Hispanic culture
She has clear African Inspirations down to the outfit colors, her name, her theme and the skull on her head.
Natlan is Native/Mesoamerican and African Inspired
the music sounds spanish
@@Sacration Not to mention a good number of the characters mentioned in the Talking Stick's story have unmistakably Central, East, West (& even North) African names. It's pretty clear at this point that both Native American and Afro influences will be found in Natlan.
edit: it is true that the music in the trailer sounds Spanish, so we may indeed find elements of colonial/post-colonial LATAM in the region as well : in the music, the food, maybe the architecture in one of the tribes' territory?
@@selenamaTHIS. I couldnt have said it better
@@Sacration when you discover that Latin america is not just “Fiesta Salsa Quicenera” your world will change a lot
I'm thinking, maybe hoyo is trying out some new gameplay mechanics for dragon-human hybrids through gaming's kit
i just dont want the god/godess of war to be a loli...
*Nahida*
@@ares24442 intense breathing...
they better make Capitano actually big and not give him the Itto treatment
Maybe this is a bit of a stretch but i do think there's no pyro archon currently. My personal theory is that there may be 2 opposite bands on the war, one wanting to resurrect murata and maybe the other one trying to ascend someone else to the position of the pyro archon. Thas has been my theory for a long time now, but you really present an interesting case here.
Other than that, i'm genuinely looking forward to the gnosis related part of the story of natlan. I can't keep off my head that last bit of the sumeru archon quest, where Nahida threatened to destroy her own gnosis to awaken the heavenly principles (although admittedly, we don't know if she was just bluffing to avoid confronting Dottore directly), knowing this is the last gnosis the fatui need to gather them all and this being the nation of war, this would be quite the moment for *something* to happen to the gnosis 👀
Edit cause i forgot to mention lol: I do think there WILL be a pyro archon, hence the resurrection part, just for the same reason you mentioned, the archons are some of if not the most high revenue banners in the game and there's no way hoyo will pass on that, i only theoryze there's no one occupying the position as of now
I feel like our pyro archon is going to be like or be the opposite of furina, Where furina wasn't actually an archon but was treated like one. Our pyro archon will most likely be treated as human and wont know they're the pyro archon. genshin has a pattern of having opposites after each other. Ei being super controlling of her country and the problem with it (not anymore ofc) And Nahida her ppl being the problem and super controlling. or we also have archon who are /similar/ but for different reasons. Venti not being present at all cause ppl should be free and have free choice with out a ruler and Zhongli just simply wanting to retire cause shit be stressful and he old and tired lmao.
Iansan is my mother ❤️❤️ you pronounced her name the right way! She is not necessarily a goddess, but an orisha. You can think of the orixás as the adepti, for example. The pantheon is huge, and each orisha represents both an aspect/element of nature (their kingdom) and the type of help for us humans. Iansan represents rain, lightning, and also winds (from the gentlest breeze to the fiercest wind). She takes the form of a woman, a butterfly, and also a buffalo. It is considered an orisha of war; very curious, active and independent, she was the only one among the women in the pantheon who gave up being queen so she could travel through all the kingdoms and learn at least 1 of their secrets. She is a good-natured sorceress, she also has the role of scaring away evil spirits and calming mental disorders. Hope this helps with the theory
At 6:52 the jaguar twins remind me of the movie Maya and the three
Demasking capitano/capitano being coward probably wont be a hint at him being "weak" in combat, but maybe cuz he is a coward who is running away from something he has done in past. He is hiding some sort of guilt within himself and does not want to face that. We as travellers, will force him to come face to face with whatever truth he has been running from.
Thanks for this analysis!! It would be SO COOL if there were no humans left in Natlan & they created a new model for the people there. They already did it with the super-buff étendîtes. NPC variety has been increasing a lot over the years. Also, it seems like the versions all introduce something new. Dendro in Sumeru, underwater exploration in Fontaine, but what are they gonna do for Natlan? Another unpleasant Dragonspine mechanic? Making a totally new character model/species could be a reasonable new thing.
i think they should do this, himeko from honkai impact 3rd is not dead she was reborn in this reality,she lost her memory and she has only glimses of her past life, she got to teyvat though the sea of quanta and maybe she is a descended, just dreaming
There’s a theory that says you can **win** the gnosis by “*throwing your hat in the ring of war*”, like Neuvi said, and winning. This would make why Captiano (don’t correct me on the spelling of his name I really don’t care), the strongest Fatui Harbinger (by physical strength) was sent to Natlan. If he wins, which the Tsaritsa probably knows he will as he’s really strong, sent him to Natlan over any of the others.
Just something I like thinking about lol.
Well I've heard some leaks and they say like half the tribes support the pyro archon and the other half support the pyro sovgrien
So maybe archon vs sovgrien
My guess is thesame as you mentioned. There has to be no humans left or barely any humans left considering there was no npc and only animals on the trailer.
10:44 actually, in the source language Chinese, it states all of the original archons d1ed. Like, straight up. And this is in his "changed" character story. Zhongli sus
also, genshin just forgetting to add any natlan NPC shouldnt be due to forgetful ness. Even a closed nation like inazuma had atleast one , Atsuko in liyue harbor, that tells us that Inazuman borders are closed but she managed to scrape by(wiki says she was released in 1.0 itself).
So even if the borders were closed, "some" reckless/adventurous npc would have managed to sneak out. And we would have met them for sure. Unless..they physically cant.
Inazuma to liyue, albeit a very dangerous journey, wasnt "impossible". Maybe getting outside natlan IS impossible. Not to mention, i dont recall any adventurer going to natlan either. There are some wanting to go to Mare Jivari and stuff, but we never hear from any adventurer about Natlan, which is weird since Adventurers are everywhere...like..everywhere!!. So this could only mean one thing, entering Natlan = death or imprisonment of some sort.
The borders cant be "impossible" to cross physically, as Capitano has entered the land, meaning one can GO in. And if you can go in, you can come out the same way. Meaning its not an issue of the border being surrounded by a moat of lava or deadly lazers lmao, there is atleast a bridge or road or path that can take you in there and vice versa.
This leaves only two possiblities
1- The lands are cursed and the ones who get there cant leave ever or even if they leave, they ll be inflicted with "something"..
2- Mare Jivari seems to be the only possible way to cross into Natlan and Vice versa, unauthorized(..as i doubt Capitano is taking that route) as Mare Jivari is too harsh and hence cant be guarded. There have been mentions of people going there, Lavawalker could have possibly passed through it(though he eventually died..he also survived for a i guess 100+ years or so..if he wanted, he could have entered natlan or vice versa in that time), Wanderer's troupe also have been to the lands. Stanley and Hans Archibald both would have survived, if Stanely hadnt died trying to save Hans from a beast, making him the sole survivor of the two. Some adventurer(s?) also managed to bring Bennett out of that place(and died later i guess not sure). So if some people can enter and leave mare jivari, then why cant the natives? Again, maybe they are cursed or the mare jivari is considerably harsher the closer you go to Natlan. And hence, the adventurers have only been to the outer regions of marejivari while anyone who went too deep, never returned.
What if we have met Natlan citizen, but they have no idea they originate from there, like Benett or Dehia?
I feel like the one "resurrecting" is not the Pyro Archon/Murata, but the 3rd Descender. If you think about it, the Fatui already has ALL the Gnoses in their hands (assuming that The Tsaritsa also passed on her Gnosis to Capitano). The only one left is the Pyro Gnosis. Perhaps we'll finally see some action taken by The Heavenly Principles?
Not to mention that the Nation of War will be the perfect location to re-summon the 3rd Descender, since there will be plenty of competent warriors there if things ever go south.
What if it's because the people of Nathan are under a curse that gives them bad luck (like bennet) when they leave? (Yeah I think Bennet is from natlan)
Honestly, I think the part where she mentions the mare jivari being from the pyro archon's death and rebirth is highly likely. When I heard that I immediately thought of the first part of Zhongli's story quest and what happened with the god of salt. When the god of salt was killed she, for lack of a better term, exploded and turned all of her subjects into salt. Based on the fact that some of the salt statues were attempting to run away or pray (I think) we can tell that it didn't happen all at once and people could see it coming. And if all of that happened when a minor god died, imagine what would happen if an archon died. Since the mare jivari is renowned as this super dangerous place that no one can survive, I feel like it might be because of the fallout of the pyro archons death still lingering there.
(sidenote: if we get access to the mare jivari in game i think it might have similar mechanics to the pyro part of Signora's fight and we'll accumulate pyro stuff like sheer cold)
theyve GOTTA have a reason for not having any npcs from natlan so far. idk HOW im gonna feel if there was just never a reason this whole time😭😭
I have but one observation to make: Bennett. I've been theorizing about him for a long time now, I don't know if you've seen his story dialogue but he's said to have been found in a volcano when he was a baby and brought back to mondstadt by a group of adventurers (the ones he says are his fathers) that leads me to think that benny boy is actually native from Natlan despite having pretty much a human appearance. Even so his white hair and green eyes are quite distinguished from everyone else's and I could tell there are some similarities between him and other Natlan characters that we've heard about so far, such as Iansan. So, do you think I'm reading to much into this? Or maybe benny really does have a deeper connection with Natlan?
my guess is that the people of Natlan are not allowed to leave it - but others can still enter it, as we've heard npcs talking about vacations there, and info about hot springs which shouldn't be obtaunable for them, unless its a place of tourism
Cant believe we are finally going to the Pyro nation this year😊😊😊
I’m Mexican, your pronunciation is quite good!! You pronounce it as E-an-san. Or if you want you can put the name into google translate Spanish and let it read the name.
The nation is based on pre-Columbian Latinoamérica, not only on Mexico, like it is supposed to be based on several Latinoamérica countries in general, not only in Mexico.
I have a fear it'll be like dragonspine but its heat
The reason it's called talking stick because in Natlan the nation of war and fire, the weapon does all the talking
The thumbnail make them look lke a family 😂
They should add the cartel to Genshin Impact
We just want one STRONG archon who is not ESCAPED and CURRENTLY ruling the nation. Are we asking too much??😭
And please don’t say Nahida because she caged from her own people and didn’t rule the nation at all for 500 years. also she says in her story quest she is in a very weak condition right now
hoping the tsaritsa is like that!
@@orangejuicelexy yes but all was her doing and she wanted gnosises and took all of it very easy way.. Idk story is good but meh in this way
need Lord Shaoji as writer 💀
He better write the fatui lore
I hope Natlan will be inspired by both Maya civilization and Khmer civilization (Cambodia) since the pyramid of these two civilizations are similar!
The Inspirations will be Aztecs, Mayans and Incas along with African culture from what the leaks say
An npc officer in fortress of meropide was saying she wants to go vacation in Natlan could there be a resort destination in natlan ?
I can't believe fontain arc is over in just 2 patches. 4.3 and 4.4 don't add anything to fontain at all
I still have the theory that the reason why Genshin Capitano is a "coward" (and why he wears the mask) is because he's Varka. He's not fighting Varka because they can't be both at the same place at the same time.
I feel if pyro archon would be reborn I like to think is lansan she be reborn as idk why is just giving that vibe
I'm expecting Natlan to be pretty much identical to Mario 64's Lethal Lava Land.
couple thoughts
I think the reason there no Natlan npcs is that maybe there’s some tribal rule that says they can’t leave, but I do remember an npc in the inazuma bathhouse who said she was from natlan. we’re also going to get more info about natlan from liben this year as well. as for Murata, I think her thing is that she isn’t dead, but she has the power of resurrection, so she rebirths when she dies. not sure if this means a new archon every time she dies or if it’s the same person retaining all of their memories and experiences from their past lives in a new body, and as the god of war, that would be pretty powerful with how much war experience she’s probably had over the thousands of years she’s been “alive”.
iansan is pretty interesting too. she seems like such a random character to be shown, but as it was said in that trailer, all of the characters there respresent their nation, so she has to hold some importance. I think she’ll either be a character like how lyney and Lynette were in Fontaine, or a sort of priestess that helps murata with her resurrection. as for the tribes, they’re pretty interesting too since we haven’t seen anything like that so far. it’ll be weird seeing 6 mini countries with their own governments and figures all somehow led by murata. and I’m not even sure how il capitano will fit into all of this, but if he’s in the nation of war, things will be interesting fs
the way we only have 2 regions to go + khaenriah just is shocking. I remember how excited I was when I reached Inazuma. We’re almost there!
There is no way diluc isn’t from natlan with his look and considering his pirate father
crepus wasn’t a pirate?
It's still incomplete, the Fontaine Archon Questline. Where's Dainsleif?
My thoughts exactly… Fontaine is still in play
wait for the interlude
Bruh wait 4.5,4.6 maybe
He's on the other side of the Khaenri'ah door that's underneath Sumeru, keeping it from being opened.
I know that at the end of fountain we find out that dragons are different. what if the dragon of fire became the archon
Feels like my earlier theories were off. My theory was that Murata had a mix of being the most helpful of the Seven but also at odds with the Traveler. She knows where our sibling is because she is hunting the prince of the Abyss Order down, and speaks freely of Khaenriah and how she chose to burn down the automaton factories down without the orders of the Heavenly Principles.
we sharing the same brain lol also been thinking about this except u way more detailed.
What if Capitano Is lavawalker along and he cover his face because of during walk on lava 😲😲😲😲
I have my theory that the death has to be licked to colbina , that all I have to say thou I don’t know much
When it comes of Natlan I always think of DUNE (the movies and the books)
My hunch is that The Cap'n is indeed Varkas 🎉
i dont get why did u put a ? on Iansan's name. Yes, its the yoruba orixá of the wind and weather, she sometimes is represented as the orixá of war
Maybe more like a multiple pyro archons but all having the title of murata. Murata could be a guy or girl but still murata.
No way Genshin thinks I’m gonna pull on a banner with a goblin grandpa….
8:10 how could you do that to those poor seals…
navia required it 💔
So, for Iansan, you actually said her name correctly, she's a deity in the afro-brazillian comdomblé religion, and that gives m hope that maybe we will have some other brazilian things in Natlan. I would kill to have a pink dolphin character, he's from a brazillian folk story. The story says that there's a pink dolphin who shapeshifts into a handsome man to seduce young women, after getting them pregnant, he would abandon the woman and never return to her village with the same disguise again. Absolutely unhinged behavior lol
there’s a Demon of Lesser Key of Solomon called Paimon
Did i just see Tupac's name? 😂
I have a trash theory that i created in my head, like what if mura is using an armor that the more a human or a god uses they are dying or burning from the inside like himeko and dr. MEI from honkai Impact 3rd (sorry for my bad english and grammar)
I may probably be TOO late to this video, but anyways this is a trash theory.
omg. natlan = ressurection tupac = dead TUPAC IS COMING BACK TO LIFE IN A LIVE EVENT
I love your voice, its so enjoyable to listen to it👍
Resurrection-hear me out…. A phoenix
Bennett was native Natlan, just let you know.
It's a unproven theory😅
What about Bennet!?!?!?!??!? He is canonically FROM NATLAN, he was found as a baby IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MARE JIVARI.
it literally never says that anywhere ever 😅😅
The Captain is gonna be a homie
these name pronunciations are just so bad.
The talking stick is not just an in game weapon. It is a real life weapon passed down from one ruler/chief to another. It's named the talking stick because one who wields it has the authority to "talk", meaning thry can lead and take action.
In some tribes, the talking stick is also used in ritual combat to resolve arguments/quarrals. Whoever is strong enough, can duel for the stick to resolve and issue
Coincidentally the character name is also murata ….wait is she related to genshin too now ?..
The thumbnail is from honkai impact
The character
the pyro archon shares a name with honkai’s murata, similar to how ei shares a surname with honkai’s raiden mei
Also I may think there may be resemblance between kiana and the unknown god
1. Natlan has tribes and chieftains.
2. The archon is dead and the gnosis is free to conquer.
3. The chiefs of the tribes fought in a never ending war to acquire the gnosis.
4. The chiefs who lost to the war burned into ash and their children woven from the womb will gain power over their tribes.
4. Capitano steps in planning to win the war and acquire it to his own possession.
5. Hopeless in the war, the tribes united and resurrected the pyro archon.
-there is a tribe only full of human evolved dragons
-mare jivari is where the nail is located, and is also the place where the archon is reborn.
-Natlan has no real mortals, after the cataclysm the mortals were wiped out and all citizens are humanoid of all Mesoamerican symbolisms such as jaguar, eagle, serpent, tortoise and a fowl.
-Murata herself is the avatar of war/rebirth and is a feathered serpent (Quetzelcoatl) in humanoid form.
-Bennet is not from Natlan but an adventurer who travelled to the nation, his badluck is probably a curse for those who tampered with the Nations treasures.
-Natlan is not primitive but is very advanced, the talking stick for example has a very unique look to it so much like an alien like advanced crafting. I bet Natlan would be like Wakanda in terms of advancement.
My guess that the tribe that lose the war got exiled and lose their memory (Similar to how children of Murata's tribe forgot about the archon).
Basically, we have met Natlan people all around Teyvat, it just that they don't know that they're from Natlan.
I think capitano is Kalpas expy 😭😭
I think that the original Pyro Archon is alive, but the title of Murata along with the Gnosis is passed down through the wars of Natlan. I theorize that Capitano will defeat the current “archon” and will earn the gnosis and along with it, the title of Pyro Archon.
Lol capitano might be the pyro sovereign 😅
I saw a video from abd illustrats on natlan wich proposed that the pyro archon title (murata) gets passed down and that the actual archon changes frequently, wich would explain how murata exits for thousands of years, but the pyro hypostasis (another theory wich connects hypostasis and archons: old archon=withered hypostasis , new archon= new looking hypostasis) looks new without any imperfections.
The harbingers have thus far never failed to gather the gnosis from each region. When el capitano retrieves it, it will be in a manner in which he loses and thus is incandescently turned to ash, yet secures this prize for his tsaritsa nonetheless. Then, she will be in possession of all 7, which we now know are pieces of the third descender, which she will resurrect. Hence, An Incandescent Ode to Resurrection.
My theory, at least.
If you think he’s gonna lose your crazy
That theory about Xblancque seems really interesting because someone had a theory about the fight is between two siblings who are descendant from the original Archo Pyro.
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Calling it now, varka is capitano and that letter that mika read was nothing but bs
Are we sure the archons name is Murata? It is Japanese, and if she is actually red headed then it might be freaking gineko once again
I hope that if Xbalaque was a sovereign, I hope he's male, since we have only 2 male gods, and that would compensate it for me
I wonder if the Electro Dragon is in Natlan. It wasn't in Inazuma