For Min. I do that recommend rotation. Reason. The cast time for the E skill can be skipped when used while QTE/tag out to others plus making sure he cast it without getting interrupted.
I think the idea with supports is that they are not your damage dealers, so the skills which increase damage dealt go at the end of the rotation right before you switch so that your DPS units can take advantage of the full buff/debuff.
Honestly all of them do make sense to me, i won't repeat what the other people in the comments have said about specific characters but as you were going through the rotations i was thinking in my head "yeah that's exactly what i do to the T". No harm in playing differently though, happy holidays payne
@@PayneBladeprob just faster rotation/more i frame time and getting into your support/dps quicker. They’re prob just considering her a tank not for her dps. Same reason why I think the Min rotation is prob better how they have it and that’s what I normally did anyways since I don’t want to waste time in animations. If the ult is up for him then don’t even skill 1 unless you need heal, do ult first then skill 2 into qte of next unit asap while his animations are still going. That’s how I think most of the non dmg dealer the devs think should be rotated.
@@PayneBlade I think while she's doing the basic 2 skill animation, you can build Charllot'es ulti and and she can benefit with the pork chopped debuff
Yes. I do this method to let Charlotte benefit from the ulti buff instead of Harper. This usually applies to instances where you are really pressed for time and cannot wait for Harper to deal all the hits for the second skill
@@PayneBladeI think they're prioritizing the switch into a stronger dark unit to use the ult and get that damage asap instead of wasting time on Harper using hers
harper: asked myself why ult before skill 2 and its because of her weapon that boosts dark dmg for 20 seconds i believe, u do skill 1 dash to stun enemy asap then ult for the dark dmg boost to get the highest amount of dmg with harpers skill 2 and then qte to charlotte for her ult
I feel Akari is a bit weird, cuz if you use Basic attack 1 followed by Basic attack 2 it resets Basic attack 1. If you do Basic Attack 2, it doesn't reset, just improves the skill.
Isla is another one, it says : skill 1, skill 2, normal 3 times, dash and ultimate and no mention about the core. personally I go: skill 1, skill 2, ultimate and qte into the next hunter I know the core attack gives you a random buff, I use it once every few rotations after using the ultimate
For min casting punishment and ult to get out is usually how I go. I don't usually use his heal unless I need to. He is there for those 2 reasons. As for Harper I still think tenderizer and then doing ultimate still does more DMG and tenderizer is on for a long enough time to allow Charlotte to do 2 ults.
@@PayneBlade right I agree I just know that logically that is why they put debuffs last. In some cases units like SM Baek for example are on the field quite long so having the most time with the debuffs active gives the most value.
I just recently started playing again and I'll say that MOST of the content has improved except for one thing, the artifacts. It was already hell to get the right substats on the right pieces before but now YOU INCLUDE THE NEW ARTIFACTS ON THE SAME BOSSES WITH THE OLD ONES TOO???? Netmarble could you please separate the artifacts by sets and not pieces😭
For Cha specifically its way better to use ur ultimate and skill 2 after, you can just cast skill 2 and insta swap to next character, which saves u time n gives u better uptime, same goes for Min, you can swap into next char right after casting ur skill 2 to save time and have more uptime on the debuff, if u use the debuff first u will lose like 5s of uptime by the time u swap to ur dps, and again same thing for Harper, you use tenderizer last and swap of so she keeps on using it while ur doing dmg on ur next character, i think u need to look into improving the way u play Payne
No the qte isn't the issue with Harper. I think the issue is doing ultimate before tenderizer. U lose out 12% dark DMG. If u don't have ult I do tenderizer and then qte while it's being cast but not while ultimate is up
i would like 2 things for now in the game first a set up for ai hunter in battle feel like thats needed and 2nd on team battles like pod on a unit like isla to show what ult is ready at the moment i cant watch out for isla all the time seeing which skill she uses last especially in guld boss if using her and for like thomas to see if his ult form is running out i dont know if ai uses his 2nd ult for the dmg on itself a little icon for that would be nice
Akari seems strange to me. Wouldn't you want to do Basic skill 1 > Basic Skill 2... Her Basic Skill 2 refreshes her Basic Skill 1 so it seems like a waste not to get the free use in.
if you buff with Go, you dont have time to do both skills + ult with Cha. I usually do 5 times Q (if i QTE with her) then ult or 8 times Q (if i swap her myself without QTE) then ult. Anything more than that and Go's light buff goes away sadly. I wish they made it like a second or 2 longer
I maxed Charlotte ult and two attacks and now the golden arrow is prioritizing skill 1 over two which isn’t right skill 2 and QTE got high damage while skill 1 is just taunting and dark buff, the explosion damage is very low and take time
I'll try it out but I've always found if ur ult is up u do tenderizer first to get more dark DMG. If ult isn't up u do theirs while tend goes off and u qte in
@PayneBlade yes, but is lil bit harper ult dmg really worth watching the whole tenderizer animation? That's a loooong ass animation. The best thing about harper is that she needs very short screen time to get her buffs out, when you use the other rotation.
Saving Harper's E for last so you can Press-hold E then QTE or tag out to other hunters and skip that long animation After Min's ult pop I think he gets a small window of I-frame cast E then switch out wio loosing desguise. Q dash into ult sounds kinda cool, definitely gonna try that
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For Harper: I guess its cause of the combination of Harper and Charlotte where you want to use Harpers Second Skill and then switch Charlotte in
Ya that's usually the case in that scenario
You can still get harpers ultimate in then switch to Charlotte with enough time to get in two ultimates before the porkchops degrade
For Min. I do that recommend rotation.
Reason. The cast time for the E skill can be skipped when used while QTE/tag out to others plus making sure he cast it without getting interrupted.
I think the idea with supports is that they are not your damage dealers, so the skills which increase damage dealt go at the end of the rotation right before you switch so that your DPS units can take advantage of the full buff/debuff.
Honestly all of them do make sense to me, i won't repeat what the other people in the comments have said about specific characters but as you were going through the rotations i was thinking in my head "yeah that's exactly what i do to the T". No harm in playing differently though, happy holidays payne
tenderize switch immediately, tenderize will do the full twelve hits if you switch immediately after the first hit
ya but this saying to use it after ult but then ur ult doesn't get the 12% more dark dmg? Am I missing something
@@PayneBladeprob just faster rotation/more i frame time and getting into your support/dps quicker. They’re prob just considering her a tank not for her dps. Same reason why I think the Min rotation is prob better how they have it and that’s what I normally did anyways since I don’t want to waste time in animations. If the ult is up for him then don’t even skill 1 unless you need heal, do ult first then skill 2 into qte of next unit asap while his animations are still going. That’s how I think most of the non dmg dealer the devs think should be rotated.
@@PayneBlade I think while she's doing the basic 2 skill animation, you can build Charllot'es ulti and and she can benefit with the pork chopped debuff
Yes. I do this method to let Charlotte benefit from the ulti buff instead of Harper. This usually applies to instances where you are really pressed for time and cannot wait for Harper to deal all the hits for the second skill
@@PayneBladeI think they're prioritizing the switch into a stronger dark unit to use the ult and get that damage asap instead of wasting time on Harper using hers
harper: asked myself why ult before skill 2 and its because of her weapon that boosts dark dmg for 20 seconds i believe, u do skill 1 dash to stun enemy asap then ult for the dark dmg boost to get the highest amount of dmg with harpers skill 2 and then qte to charlotte for her ult
I feel Akari is a bit weird, cuz if you use Basic attack 1 followed by Basic attack 2 it resets Basic attack 1. If you do Basic Attack 2, it doesn't reset, just improves the skill.
Isla is another one, it says : skill 1, skill 2, normal 3 times, dash and ultimate and no mention about the core.
personally I go: skill 1, skill 2, ultimate and qte into the next hunter
I know the core attack gives you a random buff, I use it once every few rotations after using the ultimate
Both Min and Harper (as well as most debuffing units) will apply their debuffs last in order to give their team mates more time with those debuffs.
For min casting punishment and ult to get out is usually how I go. I don't usually use his heal unless I need to. He is there for those 2 reasons. As for Harper I still think tenderizer and then doing ultimate still does more DMG and tenderizer is on for a long enough time to allow Charlotte to do 2 ults.
@@PayneBlade right I agree I just know that logically that is why they put debuffs last. In some cases units like SM Baek for example are on the field quite long so having the most time with the debuffs active gives the most value.
A nice feature to help new players and for them to not get overwhelmed
I just recently started playing again and I'll say that MOST of the content has improved except for one thing, the artifacts. It was already hell to get the right substats on the right pieces before but now YOU INCLUDE THE NEW ARTIFACTS ON THE SAME BOSSES WITH THE OLD ONES TOO???? Netmarble could you please separate the artifacts by sets and not pieces😭
oh this is an awesome feature for casual people like me that really dont know what we are doing and cant keep up with everything
For Cha specifically its way better to use ur ultimate and skill 2 after, you can just cast skill 2 and insta swap to next character, which saves u time n gives u better uptime, same goes for Min, you can swap into next char right after casting ur skill 2 to save time and have more uptime on the debuff, if u use the debuff first u will lose like 5s of uptime by the time u swap to ur dps, and again same thing for Harper, you use tenderizer last and swap of so she keeps on using it while ur doing dmg on ur next character, i think u need to look into improving the way u play Payne
No the qte isn't the issue with Harper. I think the issue is doing ultimate before tenderizer. U lose out 12% dark DMG. If u don't have ult I do tenderizer and then qte while it's being cast but not while ultimate is up
@PayneBlade I don't think the dmg gain from tenderizer is worth waiting out the entire cast duration, i could be wrong on that tho
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That’s exactly how i use my Harper rotation and I think the devs are right about it Payne
It just feel great that I was using it right from the start😊
i think the only time I use it is to switch out for QTE but i try to tenderize before ult for more drk dmg
i would like 2 things for now in the game
first a set up for ai hunter in battle feel like thats needed
and
2nd on team battles like pod on a unit like isla to show what ult is ready at the moment i cant watch out for isla all the time seeing which skill she uses last especially in guld boss if using her and for like thomas to see if his ult form is running out i dont know if ai uses his 2nd ult for the dmg on itself a little icon for that would be nice
um i think the harper skill order is used when its used when supporting charlotte
Akari seems strange to me. Wouldn't you want to do Basic skill 1 > Basic Skill 2... Her Basic Skill 2 refreshes her Basic Skill 1 so it seems like a waste not to get the free use in.
Not me just spamming whatever 😅
Straight facts 😂
Think about the automatic tag out
if you buff with Go, you dont have time to do both skills + ult with Cha. I usually do 5 times Q (if i QTE with her) then ult or 8 times Q (if i swap her myself without QTE) then ult. Anything more than that and Go's light buff goes away sadly. I wish they made it like a second or 2 longer
Meanwhile han semis DMG taken debuff is 5 seconds : ☠️
thanks for the code sir payne
Happy holidays
I maxed Charlotte ult and two attacks and now the golden arrow is prioritizing skill 1 over two which isn’t right skill 2 and QTE got high damage while skill 1 is just taunting and dark buff, the explosion damage is very low and take time
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your harper rotation is... interesting. I suggest you try their's.
I'll try it out but I've always found if ur ult is up u do tenderizer first to get more dark DMG. If ult isn't up u do theirs while tend goes off and u qte in
@PayneBlade yes, but is lil bit harper ult dmg really worth watching the whole tenderizer animation? That's a loooong ass animation. The best thing about harper is that she needs very short screen time to get her buffs out, when you use the other rotation.
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Saving Harper's E for last so you can Press-hold E then QTE or tag out to other hunters and skip that long animation
After Min's ult pop I think he gets a small window of I-frame cast E then switch out wio loosing desguise. Q dash into ult sounds kinda cool, definitely gonna try that
Ya that's if no ult. My issue with their rotation is they have ult before it which Is weird imo but maybe I'm off
@@PayneBlade totally valid point
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