The twist isn't out of nowhere ... SPOILERS It's set up from the very start (before the film started) The old Pope was playing 12D Chess. He kept Benitez off the radar of scrutiny and corruption till it was time to play his hand. The old Pope hoped/wanted Benitez and Lawrence to form an alliance.
I loved this movie and although the twist isnt mind blowing to me, I still think it fits the movie. Lawrences speech abt certainty being the enemy to faith is the key to this I think. The certainty that the pope is a man is something that is being played with here imo and is interesting to think about.
Yesus can you talk a bit calmer, less like you're in a hurry or people are gone. Because this is exhausting burn out speed level. Train what good speakers do, have depth, not excitement.
@@JosephMarchione I'm way over 50 and I love your enthusiastic speech patterns. You shouldn't rule out any age group. I think that's unfair. Also, the ending, if set up earlier, wouldn't have shocked. As it is, the audience has to think -- doesn't every Pope, every human being, have a secret? This Pope will, too. And the selection can't be undone. That's good writing. And why assume Catholics, I'm not one, will hate the movie?
@IvanWebster-w8j nothing against anyone over 50, its just logically speaking the only demo thats really important are 15-35 range. Its the largest consumer group on YT. For the catholic question, only reason I made that comment is the majority of criticism I've seen for the twist has been from echo chambers on the internet upset that it offends their religion. Thats fair and all but obviously not something that interfered with my opinion on the full
Hearts blinded by greed, lust for power, revenge, us-and-them thinking disqualify those who aspire to spiritual leadership. Hearts guided by love, compassion, and mercy make those who aspire to spiritual leadership perfectly suited-no matter their genitalia. That is the profound and enduring point of ‘Conclave.’ If your own heart is blinded to that point, you have likely lost your way, and I will pray for you.
The twist isn't out of nowhere ... SPOILERS
It's set up from the very start (before the film started) The old Pope was playing 12D Chess. He kept Benitez off the radar of scrutiny and corruption till it was time to play his hand. The old Pope hoped/wanted Benitez and Lawrence to form an alliance.
I loved this movie and although the twist isnt mind blowing to me, I still think it fits the movie. Lawrences speech abt certainty being the enemy to faith is the key to this I think. The certainty that the pope is a man is something that is being played with here imo and is interesting to think about.
I'm sold. Buying tickets now
Yesus can you talk a bit calmer, less like you're in a hurry or people are gone. Because this is exhausting burn out speed level.
Train what good speakers do, have depth, not excitement.
@@KootFloris only people that seem to complain are those over the age of 50 and I have no interest in maintaining that demo
@@JosephMarchione hahaha. We'll see.
@@JosephMarchione I'm way over 50 and I love your enthusiastic speech patterns. You shouldn't rule out any age group. I think that's unfair. Also, the ending, if set up earlier, wouldn't have shocked. As it is, the audience has to think -- doesn't every Pope, every human being, have a secret? This Pope will, too. And the selection can't be undone. That's good writing. And why assume Catholics, I'm not one, will hate the movie?
@IvanWebster-w8j nothing against anyone over 50, its just logically speaking the only demo thats really important are 15-35 range. Its the largest consumer group on YT. For the catholic question, only reason I made that comment is the majority of criticism I've seen for the twist has been from echo chambers on the internet upset that it offends their religion. Thats fair and all but obviously not something that interfered with my opinion on the full
@@JosephMarchione Okay. Thanks for your explanations.
MOST DISGUSTING MOVIE EVER!!!! WOKE DESTROYED THE MOVIE.. .they had to get their TRANSGEN FREAKSHOW AGENDA IN last minute... #BOYCOTTCONCLAVE
Hearts blinded by greed, lust for power, revenge, us-and-them thinking disqualify those who aspire to spiritual leadership. Hearts guided by love, compassion, and mercy make those who aspire to spiritual leadership perfectly suited-no matter their genitalia. That is the profound and enduring point of ‘Conclave.’ If your own heart is blinded to that point, you have likely lost your way, and I will pray for you.