MMA Fighter Wakes Up During Submission After Fight Not Stopped
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- Fury FC featured one of the worst non-stoppages I've seen and certainly a dangerous scene as a fighter was submitted and appeared unconscious but the fight was continued.
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The fight is not over until I see clear signs of resurrection.
- The Ref
"If He Dies he Dies" - Mario Yamasaki
This was insane to watch like wtf was the ref thinking when the dude was passed out...
He was thinking to much about looking like he knows what he's doing, instead of actually doing what he should be doing... Ridiculous
😂he was thinking “shit I was paid to call the fight for the other guy “
First hhing I said was WTF?! That ref should be fired. 😡🇨🇦
Ref was thinking “shit somebody really needs to do something about this” 🤣 if ever there’s a time for throwing in the towel though this is it. Dudes corner messed up too
The ref be like he still twitching so he still fighting
This was one of the most frustrating things to watch in real time. Horrible.
That was a tough watch. I hope that fighter recovers and makes a comeback to his career. As for the referee, he should be searching for another career… thank you doctor Brian for breaking this one down, that was a lot to unpack.
The most shocking thing is that the ref went to work as a judge in the UFC event the following day.
@@chucklebutt4470 thats crazy! They need to hold them accountable ASAP, if I were a fighter I’d want to know this refs name to keep him away from any event I’m participating in.
@@chucklebutt4470 I hope that you are joking
3:35 obviously he tapped using his foot 😢😢😭
Imagine going out to a triangle and waking up to a broken arm 😂😂😂
Not even broken are
Broken elbow joint
Not very funny imho.
LMMAO 😂😂😂😂 God forgive me
I love this channel! All the videos are fire, and the timing for these uploads are absolutely insane!
How do these people earn the black pants and shirt and make it to this point in the cage to "protect" fighters!?!? It's clear as day he is oblivious as to what he's seeing. You gotta have leaders in there, someone who's not afraid of backlash because they stop the fight to early. If you do stop it early, the consequences are minimal for the fighters, you stop it late, it is career altering, possibly life threatening at the severe end.
For some reason experience is better than skill even if they aren't better
Consequences are not minimal for early stoppages ( money and prestige) but i see what youre saying
I agree but consequences are not at all minimal, losing a fight usually means you lose half your purse. Imaging getting your annual salary cut by half because some guy dressed in black thought you couldn’t keep working a few days before you were paid
The fact people are saying “consequences are not minimal” by citing money … in comparison to life-altering / threatening injuries is absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂
@@twcam exactly, money doesn't mean anything when someone dies from this stuff
The definition of “you had one job”. A metaphorical life buoy is the role of an MMA referee and this guy completely dropped the ball.
Dude NEEDS to straight up *sue* the state's commission! 😡
The referee was like not till I'm satisfied
He foot tapped 3 times.
Just found the channel and it is great content. keep up the good work
You can see by his face there, he's done. Crazy how the ref let this play out so long after that.
This is incompetent and negligent. I don't see this ref working again.
Congrats on 700k doc🎉
I get it when it isn't clear whether a fighter is out or done for, BUT THIS WAS IN THE REFS FACE BRO
0:37 not to nitpick, the submission is known as a triangle choke, an arm triangle is completely differeny
Doc just hit 700K … congrats 🎉
Here's the thing, The blue fighter tapped in the armbar. Watch his leg, he taps with his foot
Why wouldn't he just tap with his hand? Like a normal person?
@PatrickPierceBateman well one hand was being held and his other one was trying to keep his shoulder in place dumbass
That's not how that works lmao you can't tap with your foot 💀
@thequinlanshow3326 read the rules, yeah you can and you always have been
700k Subs Well Done Fella!
Aside from the ref
How did the fighter not feel his opponent go limp?
That arm bar looked absolutely nasty, his elbow was already hyperextended before he started to actually tap his arm. That ref is a fool.
That was a triangle, an arm triangle is a different submission applied with the arm as opposed to using the legs to apply the triangle.
👍thanks for the clarification
@@BrianSuttererMD Np. Your videos are amazing though. I know the moves and the results they give but to actually learn the science and physiology/anatomy behind some of this stuff is awesome. My 10 year old (who trains mma full-time already) even likes this channel.
This is 100% the other fighter's fault too. How did he not feel the guy go limp?
Hi Dr sutterer, can you make a video on giancarlo Stanton hamstring issues and why he keeps having that injury
If we want to prevent this type of BS we have to stop dragging Refs over the coals everytime they stop a fight “early”. Whenever a ref stops a fight and it’s a questionable stoppage one fighters side freaks out calling it unfair and biased. Refs are human and hear that. Next fight they might let it go on longer just to get rid of that label. Fans will be fans I get that but if we want clarity in fighter safety we have to be uncompromising and not bash the officials for protecting guys
No
@@slicingonions4398 very astute and detailed analysis mr 🧅 you’re a straight up intellectual giant and wordsmith of the highest order gold ⭐️ for you
I agree, an early stoppage is way better than a late stoppage when your life is at the mercy of someone trying to kill you and someone getting paid for you to probably lose.
Or just hold them accountable period. Its insane a useless mong like Herb Dean is called the gold standard
@@halfstream1461 absolutely right the worst that happens if you stop early is someone gets a L on their record and some stupid internet trolls attack you. If you stop late someone could legit die and never wake up. That calculus only goes one way
That guy’s corner also failed him. You have a white towel throw that thing into the cage
1) Throwing in the towel is not a thing in MMA.
2) They did try and stop the fight. They were stopped by an Athletic Commission official.
@@therifledurethra9795 Not in the UFC but in pride it was normal
@@therifledurethra9795 Nick Diaz threw in the towel when Nate fought Thomson
@@woahblackbetty7691 under the Unified Rules of MMA, throwing a towel is a foul that earns a point deduction. It is not a way to stop a fight.
@@therifledurethra9795 Pride wasnt under the unified rules casual
This is my favorite mma channel
"Arm triangle" no Doc, just a regular triangle. Arm Triangle is when he uses his arms to implement the choke, opposed to his legs.
Initially the blue gloves was so tied up, somewhat difficult to tell. However that fighter looked like he was tapping with his foot. Fight business is a complex one.
Dude was expecting him to go Super Saiyan and bust outta that
And then the next night this ref got to be a judge for UFC. Insane.
Mario Yamasaki was always waiting on the verge of a fighter almost dying in competition.
Still has nothing on Merab Dvalishvili going to sleep 3 times vs Ricky Simone 😂
The ref has only two options for justice. He either gets charged and fined with a HUGE amount of money to pay to the fighter.
Or, he gets to be put in the same choke for the same amount of time by a pro fighter, with no intervention until the time is up :)
Is there any specific choke that attacks both blood and air? (For research purposes😅)
Like the Ezekiel choke, darce choke, arm triangle etc? Loop choke? Guillotine?
And practitioners of medicine or martial arts or both lol
There are people who can hold their breath for 5 or even 10 minutes so air chokes are not optimal and not even worth learning except as a distraction or annoyance to an opponent.
@@JonSmith-cx7gr not quite true, you wont put someone to sleep but just do me a favor and put some pressure with your hand below the adams apple, i assure you will tap if pressure is applied correctly there
I have to ask, whenever you as a medical doctor sees a problem like this, do you take any action such as send the organization or the commission a letter or anything such as this video because you are an MD?
No he doesn't looool
Nah he makes a TH-cam video instead
Mario Yamasaki incarnate right there.
Just left a fury fight in Houston for my friend who’s mom was very concerned about this they need better training
If he dies he dies
- Mario Yamasaki
that ref should be banned from any competition. This was like watching a cartel slaying. Dude didnt even know what was going on with his arm hes just completely out of it
Can you discuss weight cutting and the science behind SweetSweat?
Dude was out so early. Ref absolutely should have moved the fighters arm to test. Then it was clear as day he was out when he was flat on the canvas. This is insane.
I have never seen a fight that makes me question mma more as sport even more than brutal kos
I think you should run a training program for new ref's and well probably the current ones if they want
Question Doc: Is it harmful to the brain to briefly go unconscious from a choke? I have a friend who has been training BJJ who has been practicing getting choked out (with lots of people supervising) in order to get rid of the instinctual panic that normally happens.
That sounds like an awful idea and not one that high levels guys do as standard. If a blood choke is on, it’s on. You practice escapes to escape, but I’ve never seen people purposely almost go out as part of the training.
I've heard of it being done. I believe it takes several minutes for brain damage, and loss of consciousness can happen in only a few seconds. It should be ok, but I'm not a doctor.
I've heard of people getting headaches after light chokes that lead to brain damage and death later.
@@joeschmoe6908seconds holding a choke is enough for death and brain damage. Minutes is a guaranteed death. Being out for a while is bad too. Its similar to being KOd.
Idiotic
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Just a top here. At the beginning, that was a triangle choke, not an arm triangle. An arm triangle is a move where you have an opponents arm and neck squeezed with your arm around the opposite side.
corner shoulda threw in towel also
Nit-pick you said he was being put into an arm triangle, but he was in a leg triangle.
I blame the fighter who locked in the triangle cause he 100 could feel the guy go limp and should have let go that and he was looking right in his face as he was out and still continues to apply the choke. Ref and him should be sued along with the commission and fury fc
this was really hard to watch. that's so sad for the fighter. hopefully his arm recovers ok
Is that Mario Yamasaki
That ref is horrible!
Can blood chokes cause blood clots?
I've never really thought about it before.
if you ever wondered what the opposite of a doctor looked like.
doctor: do no harm.
professional fighters: harm.
Mazzagatti's top student
My buddy showed me this today during morning jiu jitsu. I could not believe the ref let this go for that long. When he went to arm bar he was clearly out. Then he is stomping his foot showing a tap.
The ref needs to be fired or retried
As bad as people hate the ufc for fighter pay, the refs in some of these other promotions as well as smaller boxing promotions are so dangerously incompetent. In Jiu Jitsu 15 seconds was always the max. And you can 100% feel when someone is out! Shame even on the other fighter, he showed no restraint which is what you learn by doing martial arts. Not to mentions the fighters corner.
Probably trained by Mazzaggati
Didn’t this happen with Simòn vs Dvalishvili?
That wasn't an arm triangle. Just a regular triangle choke
Was it Steve Mazzagatti
When you hear the doctor yelling he's out it's over how do you not call it. Refs call fights for much less
The ref was informed before the fight that the person who was being choked out was actually the Messiah and therefore the fight should only be stopped by resurrection tap.
I heard that the anouncers and the ring side physician were yelling at the ref to call it. If that's true, did the fighter's corner throw in the towel? And if not, why not?
Can we get a reaction to Mazzagattis most honourable stoppages
OMG 🤦♂
Never fails to entertain😊
Is this Mario Yamasakis blind brother?
This is Absolutely the Worst Ref ever in Mma!!
Every ref that makes a mistake like this needs to be fired
That ref had a lotta money riding on that fight.
This ref is probably a student of Mario Yamasaki
Who is this ref? Personally i think he deserves all the hate that comes his way. Its a miracle that no fighter has died under his watch yet!
This Frank Collazo should never be allowed to ref MMA ever again!!
Herb dean has almost killed multiple fighters on regional shows. But this is bad
Why on earth should anyone even try to participate in a sport where your opponent tries to kill you?
Just a quick correction that it wasn't an Arm Triangle but was instead a regular Triangle!
Wgaf!
The ref was actually unconscious although he seems perfectly fine
It’s not an arm triangle, just a triangle 😊
love the breakdowns. terrible ref should lose his job. Just for your information, this was not an arm triangle but just a triangle. arm triangle are done with the arms of the choking person, not the legs
Early stoppage
When he is going to the side his legs are limp
I noticed something interesting watching Overeem vs Aerts th-cam.com/video/8BoUfgvvCqM/w-d-xo.html that I wanted to share. The main point is that at 7:33, Overeem's pectoralis major doesn't relax after a strong contraction, but there are some other notable things too. I didn't see it happening again in the fight or preventing him movement.
I just realized that those jerks shortly before or during a loss of consciousness explained Holly Holm punching the air before being put to sleep by Miesha Tate
That was a triangle choke, not an arm triangle.
It's tough to watch. Not a big fan of most lawsuits. However, this dude was damn near killed in a professional sport while the ref watched. Sue the crap out of them!!
Didn't this ref end up judging the chito v sandhagen fight and judge it for chito?
At the end of the day, some fighters don't want to tap. And that is a choice. Officials, doctors, AND corner/coaches. Even in the course of training fighters will say they'd rather have serious injury, get put out, or die. If a coach is not addressing this Decision and/or encouraging it as part of training... everyone involved has to understand the consequences. Refs can't always save you.
Tap b4 you pass out folks
Can anyone outside the Ring stop the fight quickly?
A fighters corner/coaches can stop a fight for a fighter all though there is many issues with this situation in which I could see a corner having trouble stopping the fight. For one you got a cage in between the corner, the referee and fighters so whether or not they could even get the refs attention in a arena with a loud crowd or even if theyd be able to see exactly what is going. Who knows what angle they have of the fighter as well as having a cage in between their line of view. With that said tho I do believe MMA has a issue with the lack of corner stoppages in general compared to boxing. Personally believe that in boxing its very common that majority of fighters corners/coach have alot closer relation to their fighters then mma corners/coach have. It's very common in boxing that fighters have the same coach for a longtime usually from the time that they was a kid or was an teenager. That's rarely the case in MMA and it's probably due to the fact that there really is no amateur mma and isnt a Olympic sport like boxing is so there is no junior Olympics either. So boxers usually are trained and compete from a alot younger age compared to mma there for they have been coached from a younger age there for they build alot more personal relationship with their cornermen/coach. Also in boxing its very well known that your putting your life into your coaches hands and that they are supposed to have the your best interest for your health and life knowing that your not in the right state of mind yourself being punched in the face a shit ton lol so I'd say in general MMA has a lack of culture I that sense compared to boxing but that's also probably due to the fact that mma hasn't been around lfornthat long compared to boxing which has been a very popular sport for atleast a couple hundred years and mma has really only been around for a few decades.
At the end of the day, some fighters don't want to tap. And that is a choice. Officials, doctors, AND corner/coaches are responsible to save a fighter from themselves. Even in the course of training fighters will say they'd rather have serious injury, get put out, or die. If a coach is not addressing this Decision and/or encouraging it as part of training... everyone involved has to understand the consequences. Refs can't always save you.
name of ref?
One of the reasons I don’t glorify not tapping
Arm triangle is using your arms. This was just a ‘triangle’.
00:40 triangle choke
That was some crazy shit. I didn't even know that competitors try to choke each other. I guess this is why I don't watch this sport.
Stops listening at "arm triangle"
He's a doctor not an MMA coach, cut him a break lol.
@@VoteRFK I know, and I like his videos in general, but he's been covering things in mma for 5 years while analyzing how certain submissions effect the body. Not knowing the name of the arguably 3rd most recognized submission of all time while doing a million videos about mma for so long and mostly about submissions just seems off. It's first day jiu jitsu stuff and should at least be able to label one of the most known subs ever considering he's making video's about them and their effects. It's literally what his content is. Is this not simple enough for you pumpkin?
@luke finch
Weird such a long response and you end it with calling me pumpkin. I've never seen a person more obviously thin skinned than you.
Daddy made you a sensitive little boy huh? Lmao