Most of us may not have all of the tools or Kevin's experience, but we do have a great teacher willing to take time out of his schedule to show us step-by-step ways to get things done. Appreciate everything you do and share with us.
I been seeing and hearing of more transmission main bearings and other parts failing. It's my belief it's because some folks use 20W50 in the transmission. I have always run gear lube in my transmissions and never had a failure. Presently I'm running Amsoil 75W140 severe gear. Probably overkill, Shifts great in cold weather too. I always suggest gear lube, conventional or synthetic, as long as it's gear lube.
Most metrics run motor oil in the trans as it’s all in one, not 3 separate holes as HDs…the metrics have very little if any of these issues and that oil has clutch particles and hydrocarbons from the engine. It’s not the oil, it’s a design issue. I agree with the autotensioner theory…
Well Kevin, I will probably never do a third of what you cover in your videos, but for sure know where to turn if I ever do. Thanks again for putting these vids together and the wealth of information and seasoned knowlege you pack them full of!
I’ve spent my fair share of $$$ on riding jus because rid’N defines me an the Luv an passion is for real...! I would NEVER hesitate one micro sec to have this man turn a wrench on my bike. They call it trust .. He dam well knows of what he speaks..! If I lived down that way, he’d be replacing my transmission seal right now as I write. Wish I had the tools to do this myself. Perhaps only 20k on a new grudge box an main seal is leaking .. Thanks from your northern neighbour for all your very well done videos, Kevin Baxter...! Keep em coming ...
Heat stickers, what a great idea, I'm gonna look into that. Interesting, when I've drilled into a seal, I've always then screwed a metal screw into the hole and used a pliers to pull the seal out. I'll try a pick next time-
Your expertise is exceptional and greatly appreciated. Very educational. Not sure this is something I could undertake, but I found myself glued to the video wanting to know more. ♥️👍
Wow Lot Tools , Special tools .... acquired over years iam sure + the Knowledge & experience goes all the way .....to The bank as an Business Man & Yes Pride As another Happy Costumer Rollin Down the road in The Wind Thanks Kevin.
Hey Kevin, thank you for another excellent detailed explanation of what you are doing. I have an 08 Street Glide with a six speed. 46,000 miles and while in neutral I have a bearing making noise. I don’t care how many Holiday Inns I stay at, I will not have, the confidence to tear the transmission out lol.The technician said he will not know which bearing it is until he gets into it. Thanks again.
Kevin, thank you. I’m in the process of rebuilding my bike that I paid a local mechanic $19k to rebuild from the ground up. Unfortunately for me, everything was toast, including a brand new S&S flywheel. Your videos gave given me the confidence to attempt this rebuild myself. I guess I’ll be buying these tools 😂. Thanks sir
Have a 2010 RG. It was great seeing the transmission disassembly. You are definitely a Master mechanic. The induction heater was interesting. Great job!
I just finished putting the grudge box, with bakers compensator and the slack adjuster. I would have loved to have seen this before I tore into my 2007 FXST
I bought that Hot Rod induction tool after seeing Kevin use it in a video about a year ago. It’s one of those tools you wonder how you ever got along without lol
I noticed you used a 1/4 drive for the allens on the lock plate me 2 easier feel on the tool harder to break a bolt with 1/4 drive then 3/8 great video kevin.
Well I followed your instructions using the jims tool. Should have read the instructions that comes with the tool because the large gold washer is supposed to go between the 971-2 and the head of the bolt 2138. Instruction line item #3. I just broke the 971-2 in half and damaged the trapdoor side of the case.
That was a really good learning video. It is worth the price of admission to watch your video. Are you going back with an upgraded gear set with the engine rebuild?
Baker has a great upgrade for the Cruz drive 6 and replaces the ball bearings with timken bearings the plastic races break apart and then the bearings do not stay in place
If the "Timken bearings" you mention have a steel cage (not race), they are prone to more friction and heat than the nylon or plastic cage. I am not saying they are worse for the application or don't work. Just that there is a trade off between steel or nylon races. Nylon or plastic works better in marginal lubrication conditions too. I worked for a bearing manufacturer for 16 years that supplies HD with bearings. Baker and other aftermarket manufacturers are sometimes forced to go to alternate suppliers or designs because the part the OEM supplier makes for HD is proprietary and by agreement they cannot sell the exact same part to them. Not usually because this part is a better solution for the application.
Man, I wish I would have had gaskets come off that easy when I would work on my Yamaha Roadstar. I always had to spend at least an hour scraping and cleaning off gasket surfaces.
I think he is the best mechanic of the world. I wonder what would it Cost that operation done by the dealer ( 2000 dollar ?) Kevin can you tell us how did you learn all that skill . I think a lot viewers wonder.
Is there a fix for these early models to keep that race from walking? I'm debating going to a ball bearing but don't want to deal with the higher failure rate. Also curious what's the average cost for a shop to go through a trans and freshen it up with bearings and seals?
Great vid thanks. Just a quick question. My transmission gears can be moved laterally what is the most likely cause for this drawing from your extensive knowledge. My new gearset is tight and just has the normal longitudinal lash. Any input is greatly appreciated cheers 😊
I know that transmission troubles can be really frustrating!!!! I found a transmission bearing on the magnet when I had shifting drama 😮 but this happened with my Ducati ST2 at 203,000 miles 😊 what a piece of crap 😂😂😂😂😂 would never ride one of those chrome air compressors!!!
Okay, this brings up a question about the Harley Davidson start-up procedure. Last month, bought my first Harley, a 2015 Street Glide. Southern Tier Harley Davidson in upstate New York. Forty-one years of riding metrics. You REALLY DO start it without pulling the clutch in?? Then, you drop it into 1st with that BIG clunk? That really doesn't hurt anything? I you say so...
So im having a knocking coming from the primary side when i depress the clutch it goes away i followed your guide on the inner primary bearing and am now doing the clutch basket in hopes that the noise goes away and hoping it aint the hear in your video
@20'01" what was that noise? When I look at the $$$ spent on tools for this job then the knowledge and then the experience it seems like I would trust Kevin to repair my bike but how do we know which shops are worthy of trust? Doing it ourselves is often the only way and perhaps less expensive. I liked the cruise drive, the top gear engaged light on the dash and the silent engaging of first gear from standstill but am put off by some of the tales of lack of robustness. There are some things I would like to see on HD such as outrigger bearings on the primary drive but they do look mostly heavy duty made.
Omg racheting ring clip tool. Where has that been all my life .. For the few times I’ve needed to pull one of those spawns of Satan (fuckin ring clips)…. Every time without fail .. flings off the bike and under something .. I’m sure there are some sitting next to all the missing left socks from the drier and that missing bag of weed from when I was in highschool
While draining my gear oil , a small ball bering fell out 😮 The bike was/is shifting out fine ? Im wondering if its ok to still ride until i can afford a rebuild ?
At what mileage are you having to O/H these? You mentioned that drive bearing can fail as early as 20K. (That's incredibly early.) Is that the only early failure on these 6-speeds? I love the sound of Harleys and have ridden a few but the more I learn about them, the more the engineering seems to be quite poor. My biggest concern is that press-fit crank. It's dirt-bike technology and doesn't belong in an engine making 100+ ft. lbs. of torque. It should have been welded from the factory, especially given the damage excessive runout can cause. The upside is they seem to be relatively easy to work on and the special tools required seem to be few easily duplicated with stuff I already have. Great video, btw. Very informative.
2011 Harley Ultra down shifting to 1st gear while slowing down slite wine comeing to a stop sounds like torque no chips in tranny fluid shifts and runs fine other wise any clue
I can see you would want to own all the nice specialty pullers before attempting doing this yourself. By the way, the teeth on that starter drive look like you might want to change that too.
Most of us may not have all of the tools or Kevin's experience, but we do have a great teacher willing to take time out of his schedule to show us step-by-step ways to get things done. Appreciate everything you do and share with us.
Yea this dude is great. I’d love to have him do a full motor build for me.
I been seeing and hearing of more transmission main bearings and other parts failing. It's my belief it's because some folks use 20W50 in the transmission. I have always run gear lube in my transmissions and never had a failure. Presently I'm running Amsoil 75W140 severe gear. Probably overkill, Shifts great in cold weather too. I always suggest gear lube, conventional or synthetic, as long as it's gear lube.
Spot on! 👍
Same here!
Agreed. Running motor oil in a HD trans is inferior to proper lubricants. Nothing but redline shockproof for me.
I would say it's the stupid auto chain tensioner
Most metrics run motor oil in the trans as it’s all in one, not 3 separate holes as HDs…the metrics have very little if any of these issues and that oil has clutch particles and hydrocarbons from the engine. It’s not the oil, it’s a design issue. I agree with the autotensioner theory…
I had no idea removing a Harley tranny was so involved. Thanks great video
Well Kevin, I will probably never do a third of what you cover in your videos, but for sure know where to turn if I ever do. Thanks again for putting these vids together and the wealth of information and seasoned knowlege you pack them full of!
I’ve spent my fair share of $$$ on riding jus because rid’N defines me an the Luv an passion is for real...!
I would NEVER hesitate one micro sec to have this man turn a wrench on my bike.
They call it trust ..
He dam well knows of what he speaks..!
If I lived down that way, he’d be replacing my transmission seal right now as I write.
Wish I had the tools to do this myself. Perhaps only 20k on a new grudge box an main seal is leaking ..
Thanks from your northern neighbour for all your very well done videos, Kevin Baxter...!
Keep em coming ...
Thanks Kevin. Always learn something.
Heat stickers, what a great idea, I'm gonna look into that. Interesting, when I've drilled into a seal, I've always then screwed a metal screw into the hole and used a pliers to pull the seal out. I'll try a pick next time-
Thank you again Kevin. As well as being an excellent engineer, you're a great communicator, and that makes all the difference.
Great details on critical items. Thank you. People need to understand the specialty tools needed.no short cuts good video
Another great video Kevin. Now you are making me spend more money on tools. I've seen the induction heaters before, but now, I feel I need one.
Your expertise is exceptional and greatly appreciated. Very educational. Not sure this is something I could undertake, but I found myself glued to the video wanting to know more. ♥️👍
Great to see the MASTER at work again. Love these educational videos. 👍
So good to see you actually working on customers bikes once again. The move is successful !!!
Yay !!!!
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Always great information. The proper tools and patience will go along way.
Thanks Kevin learning a lot and it’s great to have new shows and may the Lord bless you in your new shop
Thank you so very much👍that was so infinitive and please keep doing these videos.
Wow Lot Tools , Special tools .... acquired over years iam sure + the Knowledge & experience goes all the way .....to The bank as an Business Man & Yes Pride As another Happy Costumer Rollin Down the road in The Wind Thanks Kevin.
Kevin, you got all the cool tools!
Hey Kevin, thank you for another excellent detailed explanation of what you are doing. I have an 08 Street Glide with a six speed. 46,000 miles and while in neutral I have a bearing making noise. I don’t care how many Holiday Inns I stay at, I will not have, the confidence to tear the transmission out lol.The technician said he will not know which bearing it is until he gets into it. Thanks again.
Kevin, thank you. I’m in the process of rebuilding my bike that I paid a local mechanic $19k to rebuild from the ground up. Unfortunately for me, everything was toast, including a brand new S&S flywheel. Your videos gave given me the confidence to attempt this rebuild myself. I guess I’ll be buying these tools 😂. Thanks sir
I absolutely enjoy watching you do amazing work.
Thanks sir for the lesson. Always learning from you. Glad to see you having some time to pass on tips & tricks to us.
I enjoy learning from Mr Baxter
Thank you sir
Thank you Kevin. I appreciate the information and all the good tips.
Have a 2010 RG. It was great seeing the transmission disassembly. You are definitely a Master mechanic. The induction heater was interesting. Great job!
I just finished putting the grudge box, with bakers compensator and the slack adjuster. I would have loved to have seen this before I tore into my 2007 FXST
Thanks for sharing Kevin.
I bought that Hot Rod induction tool after seeing Kevin use it in a video about a year ago.
It’s one of those tools you wonder how you ever got along without lol
I noticed you used a 1/4 drive for the allens on the
lock plate me 2 easier feel on the tool harder to break
a bolt with 1/4 drive then 3/8 great video kevin.
❤ I'd love the video. I don't know if it's the years experience of automotive.
I can see last tension when the bearing breaks loose
Great informative video. Thank you
Great Stuff Kevin!!!!!!
What's the mileage on that trans
That is a question I'd like the answer to. At about what mileage could this issue and disassembly woes be expected.
Excellent video
Great work. Thanks.
Great information once again, thanks Kevin, shared with all of our Techs!!!
Excelente aula professor.
I don't know how many times I've seen it on some of the tek sites .. and forum..s
that that is left hand thread for the pulley nut ...
Well I followed your instructions using the jims tool. Should have read the instructions that comes with the tool because the large gold washer is supposed to go between the 971-2 and the head of the bolt 2138. Instruction line item #3. I just broke the 971-2 in half and damaged the trapdoor side of the case.
That was a really good learning video. It is worth the price of admission to watch your video. Are you going back with an upgraded gear set with the engine rebuild?
Baker has a great upgrade for the Cruz drive 6 and replaces the ball bearings with timken bearings the plastic races break apart and then the bearings do not stay in place
If the "Timken bearings" you mention have a steel cage (not race), they are prone to more friction and heat than the nylon or plastic cage. I am not saying they are worse for the application or don't work. Just that there is a trade off between steel or nylon races. Nylon or plastic works better in marginal lubrication conditions too. I worked for a bearing manufacturer for 16 years that supplies HD with bearings. Baker and other aftermarket manufacturers are sometimes forced to go to alternate suppliers or designs because the part the OEM supplier makes for HD is proprietary and by agreement they cannot sell the exact same part to them. Not usually because this part is a better solution for the application.
Man, I wish I would have had gaskets come off that easy when I would work on my Yamaha Roadstar. I always had to spend at least an hour scraping and cleaning off gasket surfaces.
Very interesting video. 🏍💨🏍💨
I'm curious what the tools cost
I think he is the best mechanic of the world.
I wonder what would it Cost that operation done by the dealer ( 2000 dollar ?)
Kevin can you tell us how did you learn all that skill . I think a lot viewers wonder.
Is there a fix for these early models to keep that race from walking? I'm debating going to a ball bearing but don't want to deal with the higher failure rate. Also curious what's the average cost for a shop to go through a trans and freshen it up with bearings and seals?
Thank you
You just talked me out of working on my own transmission.
If that shift shaft has some play, could that be just a seal or a worn pawl?...no leaks...yet. Thank you for this video!
Great vid thanks. Just a quick question.
My transmission gears can be moved laterally what is the most likely cause for this drawing from your extensive knowledge.
My new gearset is tight and just has the normal longitudinal lash.
Any input is greatly appreciated cheers 😊
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏Congrats ,very good job 👏👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
I know that transmission troubles can be really frustrating!!!! I found a transmission bearing on the magnet when I had shifting drama 😮 but this happened with my Ducati ST2 at 203,000 miles 😊 what a piece of crap 😂😂😂😂😂 would never ride one of those chrome air compressors!!!
Okay, this brings up a question about the Harley Davidson start-up procedure. Last month, bought my first Harley, a 2015 Street Glide. Southern Tier Harley Davidson in upstate New York. Forty-one years of riding metrics. You REALLY DO start it without pulling the clutch in?? Then, you drop it into 1st with that BIG clunk? That really doesn't hurt anything? I you say so...
Thank You Sir ! ;-))) Peace/;-)
Didn't you get the updated intro with Nashville, TN?
The old HD 4-speed gearbox was bulletproof.
So im having a knocking coming from the primary side when i depress the clutch it goes away i followed your guide on the inner primary bearing and am now doing the clutch basket in hopes that the noise goes away and hoping it aint the hear in your video
@20'01" what was that noise? When I look at the $$$ spent on tools for this job then the knowledge and then the experience it seems like I would trust Kevin to repair my bike but how do we know which shops are worthy of trust? Doing it ourselves is often the only way and perhaps less expensive. I liked the cruise drive, the top gear engaged light on the dash and the silent engaging of first gear from standstill but am put off by some of the tales of lack of robustness. There are some things I would like to see on HD such as outrigger bearings on the primary drive but they do look mostly heavy duty made.
I done 3 of these last week 😂
Did you say that there was around 30 thousand miles, surly not.
Gitcher dipsticks outa tha way!
Omg racheting ring clip tool.
Where has that been all my life ..
For the few times I’ve needed to pull one of those spawns of Satan (fuckin ring clips)…. Every time without fail .. flings off the bike and under something .. I’m sure there are some sitting next to all the missing left socks from the drier and that missing bag of weed from when I was in highschool
While draining my gear oil , a small ball bering fell out 😮
The bike was/is shifting out fine ?
Im wondering if its ok to still ride until i can afford a rebuild ?
Can I (provided damage free) use my stock 2020 m8 107 FLHX trans with 2019 m8 114? Or would you prefer not to answer?
At what mileage are you having to O/H these? You mentioned that drive bearing can fail as early as 20K. (That's incredibly early.) Is that the only early failure on these 6-speeds?
I love the sound of Harleys and have ridden a few but the more I learn about them, the more the engineering seems to be quite poor. My biggest concern is that press-fit crank. It's dirt-bike technology and doesn't belong in an engine making 100+ ft. lbs. of torque. It should have been welded from the factory, especially given the damage excessive runout can cause.
The upside is they seem to be relatively easy to work on and the special tools required seem to be few easily duplicated with stuff I already have.
Great video, btw. Very informative.
HAVE YOU EVER DONE A VIDEO ON ENGINE ALIGNMENT ON A ULTRA CLASSIC?
A plastic dead blow hammer worked well for me
I guess it would've
Stayed on.
You know they do make a tool for that shifter seal
2011 Harley Ultra down shifting to 1st gear while slowing down slite wine comeing to a stop sounds like torque no chips in tranny fluid shifts and runs fine other wise any clue
Compensator ? They dont like enginebrake heavy
Why are those induction heaters so expensive?!
I can see you would want to own all the nice specialty pullers before attempting doing this yourself. By the way, the teeth on that starter drive look like you might want to change that too.
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It's not a "transmission"....it's an engine that wants to be a woman!