Part 2 - Rigging Concepts in Tree Work:: Moment, Angles, Load Sharing, X-Rings, etc

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  • @dougtak39
    @dougtak39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Bonsai tree is a genius visual aid, and the tiny rigging gear is awesome.

  • @steelonius
    @steelonius 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks this is very helpful.
    In addition to load sharing, by changing the rope angles through the added rings you have also moved the vector into closer axial alignment (compressive force) on the primary limb that you are rigging off of so there is less moment, leverage. You clearly understand this I just mention it because it ties back into your point about observing the vector based on the direction the ring is being pulled which you had taught in your other video, and rounds out the lesson. Plus it helped me to think it through.

  • @dustinbrighton4751
    @dustinbrighton4751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great information, educational moments like these save lives.

  • @rainshadow5795
    @rainshadow5795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very creative teaching method. Nailed it. Video examples of cutting/rigging limbs from that perspective was helpful. On the ground, things get messy. Lotta confusion at times but this cleared it right up. Won’t be sending climbers for a ride anymore lol appreciate it thanks fir the book recommends

  • @billsims974
    @billsims974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I work disaster relief and find your vids so very helpful for the tree work we do when deployed. You let me approach tough jobs with information that helps the workflow and decision process be informed, deliberate and safe. Thanks!!!

  • @wown_dee
    @wown_dee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!
    My favorite part was the beginning “Spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch” absolutely made my day to see someone else says that in those, “Hope this goes well...” moments. Awesome!

  • @MisterTDiSalvo187
    @MisterTDiSalvo187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never knew so much went into felling a tree. But thanks to your videos I fell a large weeping willow btwn a shed and an arbor.. probably 7ft of clearance left and right of tree. Got my pulleys and shackles and it came down picture perfect. Thanks for the advice

  • @NickSelleh
    @NickSelleh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the follow up! Great "big picture" presentation; I like the visual aid. Climb safe and keep up the videos!

  • @pinecone5058
    @pinecone5058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great class Pat, make it a little easier for us dummies to get the concept of moments and vectors, thanks

  • @WAHLS_arbor
    @WAHLS_arbor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like it! hope i dont find a tree as complex as that illustration! look at that reaching leader! but im workin on my ring use and this really makes sense, "tying the tree together"

  • @m.jenkins8503
    @m.jenkins8503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally, an educated tree person. Luv your simple explanations and book references. Thank you very much.

  • @adriennedelay5563
    @adriennedelay5563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Graceful branch you chose for the visual concept. Your a natural at teaching!

  • @firedtradesman
    @firedtradesman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great stuff. Helluva Job! ;) Good point about rings not being midline attachable. Makes a guy think and plan in advance. Hope to see some more helmet cam footage sometime. I miss being in the tree with you. Raw footage, minimal editing, just take us to work with you. Thanks as always.

  • @shanesouza4303
    @shanesouza4303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explanations Pat.
    I remember the 1st time I helped with a cradle. We had a 5 to 1 and a 2 to 1 set. Opened my mind as to rigging possibilities. These learning opportunities in the field don't come everyday. Tnx for the time you put in.

  • @jason1938
    @jason1938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. You make it easy for a newbie like me to understand.

  • @RDavies126746
    @RDavies126746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I have had a little bit of experience with technical rope rescue and tactical rappelling and i am starting to learn rigging in trees. Just found your videos and really enjoying how you break it down along with the importance of load sharing. Subscribed so I won't miss future videos!

  • @zachsites906
    @zachsites906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic content… keep it coming!

  • @jamescain7250
    @jamescain7250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another brilliant video thanks mate

  • @darlalewis4279
    @darlalewis4279 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of help bro. Thank you

  • @aonewilkenson6732
    @aonewilkenson6732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Very helpful.

  • @dankotos61
    @dankotos61 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job I like the way you explain things you remind me of a person that taught me in the '70s when I first started great job keep up the good work thank you

  • @JadensRedemption
    @JadensRedemption 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I was a cat in a tree yesterday. Yeah, it was pretty windy out, yet I dont have a lot of rigging knowledge. It is those what ifs that get to me. Most of my experience was out west on evergreens where the only rigging was topping really. Trying to get back in the game of 5 years off to help a small business expand.
    Please keep these videos coming. It be great to get more info on tip tying

  • @dan-dan-da-treeman
    @dan-dan-da-treeman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found part 2. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Awesome work.

  • @Ransetsu
    @Ransetsu ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff

  • @metaspencer
    @metaspencer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    killer illustration. thanks for putting this together

  • @jamesblack687
    @jamesblack687 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you 🙏

  • @jasonturney2800
    @jasonturney2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick you have helped me tremendously with refreshing my knowledge thank you brother keep the videos coming

  • @jasonturney2800
    @jasonturney2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your definitely helping me brush up

  • @j.a.s.2684
    @j.a.s.2684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video! Thanks for the books you referred.

  • @ThisTwoWheeledLife
    @ThisTwoWheeledLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content, I totally want some of those tiny x rings and slings!!!

  • @richardminchin5415
    @richardminchin5415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks man. Absolutely spot on.

  • @tomhuffman4673
    @tomhuffman4673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info. Very helpful and well explained.

  • @jakebuck1135
    @jakebuck1135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!!! I love how you made it so simple to understand. These videos have helped me out so much in my rigging techniques and I wanted to thank you for taking your time to put out such awesome and practical information

  • @unddannkommtbierinsspiel
    @unddannkommtbierinsspiel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video as always Patrick! One thing to keep in mind is the additional stress you put on a split like on your example „tree“ there. Sharing the load is awesome but if you do this kind of setup on a tree with a weak or damaged split you might cause it to collapse or break. You are pulling the stems together, at least a little bit.

  • @TriedandConquered
    @TriedandConquered 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks for sharing! And thanks for recommending those books!

  • @kkutube1972
    @kkutube1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I think the fishing rod setup is something that I would try if I was to rig as a 1st timer.

  • @treeculture9249
    @treeculture9249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good, thanks Patrick 👍

  • @jasonfeazel3806
    @jasonfeazel3806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. Rings are definitely the way to go I use 5/8 ultra ring slings with a 5/8 rigging line.

  • @darrenmoore2305
    @darrenmoore2305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was watching another of your youtube video,, Love the fact that you didn't make it look like you hit your target first throw ( throw line),,, and you showed how it is a pain in the ass sometimes. Throw line is the cause of a.lot of climber frustration. HAHAH cheers

  • @radiobibu
    @radiobibu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice explanation! Thanks

  • @salimufari
    @salimufari 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:00 I like to think of it this way. The tree grows opposing gravity & wind & the strength of the wood is in line with the tree's structure. Rig with those strengths in mind. The rings grow in a stem to let the tree resist those forces so you will find wide limbs grow with existing tension & compression on those limbs. Stems or vertical limbs are more uniform since gravity is the main force & perform better under compression.

  • @bretthuet1396
    @bretthuet1396 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice work!

  • @turtlezed
    @turtlezed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using arrows to represent the vector of each rigging point ( splitting the angle of the ropes in half) the resultant vector would show in which direction the tree is effectively taking load and as you rightly say, if you can set up the rigging to have the resultant vector compressing the limb more than bending it then thats gonna be the strongest setup.The bigger the piece relative to the tree on any size of tree, the more this matters but its just good practice to get the best out of your rigging setup and another dimension of the job to making a success of the task with no mishaps.

  • @keithburkhead9559
    @keithburkhead9559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your Great help man.

  • @diegoamalfitano6831
    @diegoamalfitano6831 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ahhh ok, here you mention it. Thanks! I like the way you explain things. I'm getting some X rings and nobody in my circle uses them (people in Spain, use mainly pulleys and blocks) so I am pretty new to them. For example, is it "mandatory" to use 2 of them to avoid burning the rope when negative rigging? I read something about the angle but I just can't believe they're made in a way they "cut" the ropes when using them. Thanks!!!

  • @Suprimeist
    @Suprimeist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    tnx bro!

  • @AdvancedLawn
    @AdvancedLawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect compression would be a power line pole on a flat surface with someone standing on top perfectly balanced. Even then. Still not perfect.
    Good stuff Patrick

  • @joshpomponio2993
    @joshpomponio2993 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks good vid 👊

  • @Jkidd49476
    @Jkidd49476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey buddy , could you make a video of like understating hinge fibers on different trees ? Like hard to spike in heavy wood good hinging wood good to rig big and trees that are opposite that are tree you have to be careful climbing no good hinge they pop . Blah blah , I’ve been climbing for a while and still can’t get completely comfortable …

  • @troopygino
    @troopygino 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can adding multiple rigging points to share the load ever make the situation worse? As in height of points or maybe makes the angle worse e.t.c?

  • @jeffadams492
    @jeffadams492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spectacles testicles wallet and watch 😀 got a kick out of that my dad used to say that. Thanks Pat for another helpful video

    • @rerolley
      @rerolley 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you remember your keys?

  • @waynegriswold8953
    @waynegriswold8953 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the great videos, i just found your channel and its a major help to me. i am green in the tree and am trying to find all the information i possible can. with tha being said do you recomend and perticular rigging rings? and do you recommend a store to by them from. thank you sending love from tucson arizona!!!

  • @travisparks7748
    @travisparks7748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back in my day we used natural croch rigging

  • @biswaranjanmohantymohanty707
    @biswaranjanmohantymohanty707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir ♥️

  • @88foldpath
    @88foldpath 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In a negative rigging/letting it run scenario, does having more than one block (blocks or rigging rings) in the system help to mitigate some of the shock force that the rigging rope experiences?

  • @biswaranjanmohantymohanty707
    @biswaranjanmohantymohanty707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ilov sir

  • @mw7907
    @mw7907 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick, what size Zubat Saw and leg straps for your sheath do you use?

  • @StihlChainsaws
    @StihlChainsaws 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍Stay Safe

  • @stevenbusch9336
    @stevenbusch9336 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤🤘🏼

  • @gregbrown9271
    @gregbrown9271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    👌👍

  • @brycedelay2092
    @brycedelay2092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤔 Moment... Momentum!

  • @narcdetective
    @narcdetective 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's sideloading

  • @biswaranjanmohantymohanty707
    @biswaranjanmohantymohanty707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir IAM India

  • @gonzalesjude9000
    @gonzalesjude9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    07:31
    11:57 Very happy 💞❤️

  • @Bluecollar711
    @Bluecollar711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When are we going to talk about my z-runner?

  • @fumagoo1986
    @fumagoo1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not an expert*
    Me- Take every word as gospel