Reviewing the 2021 Annual Meeting (Part 2 of 4)

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  • @7eyeswideopen177
    @7eyeswideopen177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I remember sitting at an Assembly the speaker in a booming voice poclaimed MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE...I looked at my father at that very moment it was the happiest I've ever felt. My father was never going to die he was born in 1914... As I stood and watched my father being lowered into the gound my heart was broken but this was different it felt as though my heart was stabbed. Then I flashback to when I was that happy little girl...It was at that very moment I knew The Govering Body lied as did the brother on the platform Proclaiming MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE... At that very moment a crack had formed in my sub conscience so then little by little unbeknown to me with every doubt crack upon crack until l was fully awake

    • @martinalan1191
      @martinalan1191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ❤️

    • @7eyeswideopen177
      @7eyeswideopen177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@martinalan1191 thank you

    • @marie-clairedelongchamp1330
      @marie-clairedelongchamp1330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😔

    • @Adventures2024-AD
      @Adventures2024-AD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So sorry- my grandmother was born 1920 and when she died my heart broke and my trust in watchtower cracked-

    • @naturalstate8539
      @naturalstate8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Adventures2024-AD The Bible does speak of a Resurrection ! Just because they got it wrong back then doesn't mean the Bible it's self is wrong. Put your trust in Jehovah not man ! This is what can happen when you do.

  • @jasonbroderick3578
    @jasonbroderick3578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I asked my 41 year old indoctrinated sister to read the harp of God as David splane excitingly talked about and she sad she will not look at anything outside of her beliefs. It's their book! I am very sad

    • @gbnomore3918
      @gbnomore3918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the epitome of a conundrum 🧐

    • @German_cookies
      @German_cookies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GET THE AUDIO BOOK AND HAVE HER LISTEN TO IT WHILST YOU AND HER GO FOR A LONG DRIVE.

    • @ddsgabo
      @ddsgabo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They look at their old literature as apostate fuel

  • @vaughnwoss4990
    @vaughnwoss4990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Lloyd, you indeed should be given a well-deserved standing ovation for your extraordinary skill and efforts for unraveling the lies behind the curtain of this deplorable, messy Cult.

    • @Sittingstraight12
      @Sittingstraight12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watching Lloyds videos is the best tool to use to wake up a witness. Only wish it was easier to get a witness to watch that are family members.

    • @valerieatkins9994
      @valerieatkins9994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree ☝️ thank you Lloyd ❤️

  • @stoobpendous
    @stoobpendous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    I love this! The Harp of God totally debunks the religion. More than a tenth of my last congregation have woken up. I even see people in my previous congregation waking up. What an exciting time. Can hardly wait for the new Service Year report. Look forward eagerly to see how this Ramapo business breaks down the Tower.

    • @Alanhock75
      @Alanhock75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Empty seats is great news

    • @madamecurious
      @madamecurious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Stoobpendous, wow, thank you for the “good news”!!!! Can you tell us in what part of the country this is happening? This is so exciting :)

    • @stoobpendous
      @stoobpendous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@madamecurious Nope, because I'm still technically PIMO. And for my family's sake I can't give out potentially identifying info. You know how curious jdubs like to lurk in these places.

    • @madamecurious
      @madamecurious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@stoobpendous , yes, so sorry 😞 I totally understand. I wish you the best for the future 🌿

    • @rosiej.1473
      @rosiej.1473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is exciting, where I live, no one else seems to be waking up. So sad and frustrating.

  • @jovialbivouacker99
    @jovialbivouacker99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    “Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk
    I'm a godly man, no time to talk
    Music loud and hell is warm, I've been kicked around
    Since I was born
    And now it's alright, it's okay
    And you may look the other way
    We can try to understand
    The Watchtower’s effect on man
    Whether you're a brother or whether you're a sister
    You're stayin' alive, stayin' alive
    Feel the world a breakin' and everybody shakin'
    And we're stayin' alive, stayin' alive
    Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive
    Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive…🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🕺🏾🕺🏽
    …”

    • @rachelcruse2133
      @rachelcruse2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Stayin alive stayin alive in arm-a-geddon stayin alive-ive-ah-live-ive OOOHHH

    • @MoureeneTaylor
      @MoureeneTaylor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      More diversity in your little emoji dancers than on the GB 😂

    • @tangerinetangerine4400
      @tangerinetangerine4400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      👏

    • @madamecurious
      @madamecurious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So funny 😂 💙

    • @Sittingstraight12
      @Sittingstraight12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ping! This is awesome!!

  • @omarren
    @omarren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    After his pathetic performance in the Australian Royal commission, Jeffrey Jackson should be the last one up there talking garbage

    • @ronnycorea2660
      @ronnycorea2660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh yeah right;but he was having a spiritual punch up!!

    • @mikedraper138
      @mikedraper138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I honestly didn't expect to see Jackson show his face again online, after getting caught denying his religion in front of eight million of his followers.

    • @Alanhock75
      @Alanhock75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mikedraper138 all current witnesses should watch Jackson - at his best!

    • @ingramwright5399
      @ingramwright5399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mikedraper138 maybe they put that under spiritual warfare in order to ignore it?🤷‍♀️

    • @Alanhock75
      @Alanhock75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ingramwright5399 this was his chance to tell everyone listening that JWs are the one true religion like he tells children to do when challenged at school by their peers and teachers- massive fail on his behalf

  • @kikaru5330
    @kikaru5330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Coronavirus- I've killed millions worldwide.
    Jehovah- Hold my beer.

    • @filipolorenzo7910
      @filipolorenzo7910 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the differences between having sx with another man while married than having sx with an animal?

    • @motorway2roswell
      @motorway2roswell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@filipolorenzo7910 what is "sx"?!? are you afraid to say the word "sex" because you're a JW troll??

    • @kuro3168
      @kuro3168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@filipolorenzo7910 wth are you even comparing? I mean an animal can’t obviously give any consent to having “sx”, as you say, (I guess you mean sex, because with other vocals between the s and the x, I can’t give any sense to what you are writing… and I should say, it already has little sense). What’s your point?

    • @bbuttercup7204
      @bbuttercup7204 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@filipolorenzo7910 your question was 3 months early. Ask Lloyd.

    • @Lausbua.
      @Lausbua. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's the difference between Netherlands and Afghanistan?
      Netherlands: Get stoned and have Sex.
      Afghanistan: Have Sex and get stoned.
      😅😂
      ​@@filipolorenzo7910

  • @sbrightpink
    @sbrightpink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Wow!!! Ive learned more in this video then I did 20 years at the hall!!! Such a shame people are blindly and falsely led into this cult & refuse to do the research that You have!!! Thank You for taking the time to put all of this information together!!! ❤ The fact that you are an Ex Elder really puts the organization to SHAME!

  • @lindseybarclay9187
    @lindseybarclay9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I'm so impressed by the patience and decency of this presenter. His tactics are influencing other ex-JW activists to follow the path of compassion in their activism as we are beginning to see the stirrings of unease within the Kingdom Hall. There is no scorn or rancor for those who are still in bondage, but so much empathy. The mass exodus will come with this steady, sustained pressure on the leadership while deconstructing the false teachings and debunking the claims.
    Activists of other faiths could learn a lot from you, Mr. Evans. Good strategy.

    • @jimkidd6334
      @jimkidd6334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanku for continuing to expose watchtower I've put aside my anger for spending 60 years in this organization now thankful for all your efforts

    • @erinmorano9740
      @erinmorano9740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Theres not likely to be a mass exodus. They really get their hooks in you. Ive been out nearly 10 years now and still worry if ive made a mistake. I think about it everyday in fact and need to watch videos like these to constantly reinforcein my mind and heart that I'm safe and wont perish for all eternity. Its very difficult and stressful. I still havent figured out how to let it go completely. I almost want to say that it torments me. Its that bad.

    • @erinmorano9740
      @erinmorano9740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Its Me yes its really upsetting. Im DF'ed. They teach that if a person dies in a disfellowshipped state that there wont be a resurrection for them or that if Armageddon comes in their lifetime that Jehovah will kill them and being that it was Armageddon that they would have no resurrection. Either way I'm eternally damned. Personally, I dont see how a loving God would do that would do that to me. I tried to get reinstated. I tried for nearly 2 years and they kept telling me to come back and try again. I gave up. I couldnt take the emotional abuse anymore. After I was first df'ed, they told me to check in with them and write my letter to them in three months for consideration. So every 3 months for almost 2 years I did this and they still denied me. I just dont get it. Its just as well I guess. I wouldnt not go back now. I cant see how it is really the truth. Not after everything ive heard now.

    • @scotchtowerbrandytequillas8748
      @scotchtowerbrandytequillas8748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As wrong as it seems to "like" that comment, I had to as I know the feeling all too well. I will see something on the news, or hear something and I go straight back to thinking of end times, the great tribulation and imminent armageddon and that I'm the stupid one whose throwing my chance away...then I snap out of it pretty quick. Its similar to what Lloyd himself admitted with the earthquake early 2021. Woken up in the middle of the night to an earthquake and immediately thinking earthquake-check, pandemic-check- armageddon bingo.

    • @scotchtowerbrandytequillas8748
      @scotchtowerbrandytequillas8748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They fup you up. Its sick. You're not mentally diseased, you're not worthless and you're not bad association.youre a person who has got out of the trap. You're free. They like to plauly games with the disfellowshipped, make them jump through hoops to get back in because they have power trips off it. Remember these men in their day to day lives often earn humble salaries in humble roles and have little to no authority, so abuse it in the kh in some cases as it makes them feel important to be privy to the decisions and meetings of judicial committees. That's why it took 2 years to stay out. Yet they also deny friends and family from disfellowshipped ones by threatening the same shunning to them if they disobey the borg...and project the rule as gospel as God says so a higher power. No god is going to destroy you for not following him in that religion because if he does, he's a God who condones child abuse, game playing and is schizophrenic if you read his flip flopping his quick temper and carnage without remorse so are better off not worshipping him.

  • @debo296
    @debo296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You have given me soo much peace after leaving this religion after 30 years,explaining all these lies thank you 👏👏👏👏👏

    • @angelatabbs2567
      @angelatabbs2567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right!!!

    • @alisonschmitt9533
      @alisonschmitt9533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m also 30 years free and I am still learning all the convoluted ways they have lied, lied, and lied again, from activists like Lloyd. Always such an informative watch.

  • @name_undefined
    @name_undefined 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Imagine getting hunted down in Paradise by Tony the Remover

    • @amym8073
      @amym8073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes the fat mob boss

    • @ohchristonastick
      @ohchristonastick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Protip: distract him by throwing a couple bottles of single malt his way

  • @kammy6340
    @kammy6340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Today was supposed to be my Circuit Assembly or should I say I was supposed to watch it at home. I didn't. I tried to and I just couldn't so I'm glad I came on your channel, I will watch this instead.
    edit: Guess who just downloaded a copy of the Harp of God online?? My word...I never thought I could be flabbergasted more by watchtower but my God...They've been pulling this crap for over a century.

  • @name_undefined
    @name_undefined 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The reason Jehovah resurrects Hitler and Stalin is cause he can relate to them lmao. He loves his genocidal homies

  • @keineahnung74
    @keineahnung74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I worked for over 25 years for a company that is a major player in its field with factories and sales companies worldwide. We had online meetings with colleagues from various parts of the world every week. No big deal. Managed by highly professional persons, the company quickly took steps to have persons work from home etc. The 2020 turnover and profits were alltime best. Must be Jehovah’s hand.

    • @beautyRest1
      @beautyRest1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Du bist deutsch? Dein Kommentar stimmt!!

    • @outtadarkness1970
      @outtadarkness1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      One of my daughters works for a German owned company, and they fairly seamlessly switched over to work from home, Zoom-type meetings BEFORE the GB announced their plan! It has been successful enough she has gotten a promotion and raise in that time; all done via Zoom-type meetings. So, not sure how the Society sees their success as "divinely inspired".

    • @amym8073
      @amym8073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hilarious 😂😂😂

    • @carolwrinkles6204
      @carolwrinkles6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@outtadarkness1970 thank you for sharing this! 😌

    • @migdaliafuentes1618
      @migdaliafuentes1618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jehovah hands is helping my company too! When the pandemic hit in an orderly manner management quickly provided employees with PC and remote connection to work from home!- Jehovah really helped management to think quickly to avoid business disruption. We got MS teams and zoom for work
      Collaboration!
      The company continued hiring people and covering available positions - while other companies have employee exiting (resigning) and seeking for employees! We received bonus for 2020 gains! Wow! Jehovah is in my company favor! I’m staying inside this company- Jehovah loving care and direction so we are not unemployed and was with family in the lockdown!
      Jehovah is really blessing my company!

  • @tanyabailey5907
    @tanyabailey5907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I got baptized on 1975..I have now FADED. I can't believed I was soo Duped. I wasted soo much time/ my youth

    • @carolwrinkles6204
      @carolwrinkles6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel for you, brother . I know how you might feel .

  • @stoobpendous
    @stoobpendous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Congratulations to you and Tibor for a homerun hit. Looking forward to part 3.

  • @TBlack-dz5bo
    @TBlack-dz5bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I nearly fell out of my chair when I heard Stephen Lett’s real voice! Omg! I kinda like his natural, more sincere sounding voice. Awesome breakdown of the convention so far, I’m really enjoying it and appreciate your hard work!

  • @johnhelms1485
    @johnhelms1485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    At 1:16:15 Jackson says, “No one’s going to be allowed to practice vile things in the new world.”
    Well if no one will practice vile things, why will there be people who get annihilated?

    • @schrecksekunde2118
      @schrecksekunde2118 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When they show a lack of joy. Or praise to little. They'll find something so they can tell the peasants what to do

    • @knowthyself8233
      @knowthyself8233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @itsMe-ey2lv
    @itsMe-ey2lv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    Raise your hand if Lloyd's rebuttals are the ONLY way u can listen to JW media 🤣

    • @MannyRosa
      @MannyRosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @lindseybarclay9187
      @lindseybarclay9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    • @yobblesganobler6792
      @yobblesganobler6792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah. I have to admit. The only JW content I've taken in, in the last 2 years, has been from Lloyd's channel.

    • @spagetticat3468
      @spagetticat3468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ✋ Otherwise I'm too busy laughing, rolling my eyes, or trying not to fall asleep 😂

    • @gabrielvizcaino3130
      @gabrielvizcaino3130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For real

  • @Lukronius
    @Lukronius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was brushing my teeth when Lloyd said “here we have… a BeeGee, apparently”. It took everything in my power not to spray the mirror from laughing!!! 😂😂😂

  • @clairenollet2389
    @clairenollet2389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    So, the 144,000 Chosen Ones not only all morph into white men, with white hair, but they all seem to have beards. Why isn't it OK for JW men to have beards now, if the Chosen Ones are all going to have beards? Are any of the 144,000 allowed to be women? If so, how will they feel about having to sport full white beards? I'm fixated on the beards, guys.

    • @sifisovic7
      @sifisovic7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣🤣🤣 Great observation

    • @outtadarkness1970
      @outtadarkness1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂🤣😂 You have painted some hilarious images in my mind! Thank you, I needed that!🤣😂🤣 But, yes, the hypocrisy is strong with these ones! 🤦🏾‍♀️🤷‍♀️

    • @outtadarkness1970
      @outtadarkness1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Its Me, Yep, pretty much!

    • @Izzrules
      @Izzrules 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some women can naturally grow beards, like some women with PCOS. Perhaps PCOS is the mark of a woman who’ll be a chosen one.

    • @dennisconstantine624
      @dennisconstantine624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Theres no electricity to run the shavers in heaven?

  • @gumpyj
    @gumpyj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    So isn't it more compassionate for publishers not to convert anyone lest they become an apostate and destroyed without a chance of redemption?

    • @barbiechyqa9192
      @barbiechyqa9192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      You would think! That logic, together with my unwillingness to have anyone die because of refusing blood, made me stop preaching my last few months as PIMI. But no, JWs keep preaching, keep risking everyone's life, both the present and the future's.

    • @morningglory9288
      @morningglory9288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yes that's what I always thought to. When I was studying with a sister many moons ago, she said to me "well, you know, you've come this far into learning the truth, if you were to leave now, after knowing it, you risk dying come armageddon, cause you're rejecting Jehovah and his organisation."
      Why do they insist on preaching their beliefs onto their studies then? This in itself is a catch for now they feel obligated to get baptized into the cult, either that or die come armageddon.

    • @georgeporgy7568
      @georgeporgy7568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@barbiechyqa9192 I did the same thing our congregations merged and when that happened I never whent preaching again a full year before waking up. It was in order to not condem anyone to death.

    • @disassociated1731
      @disassociated1731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it would make sense also, not to have children, in the light of this crazy theology! think about: option 1: you indoctrinate them, let them be baptized as a teenager, and then you live in the fear of them leaving your truth, because in this case you ll have to shun them and believe that they will be killed by god as goats or, if they die before Armaggedon, you ll never see them again because they went directly to eternal destruction. Option 2: preserve them, live with the fear that they will be killed as goats, but, at least, if they die before A , you ll teach them after their resurrection so you all will be written in the book of life

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@disassociated1731 if they have kids who are too young to be baptised by Armageddon but are still alive I think by their logic the children are automatically damned so yes they shouldn’t be having kids in case the end comes in the next 8 years or so

  • @craftyazshabbyshacjude3297
    @craftyazshabbyshacjude3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Love your channel Lloyd can't wait to watch this.

  • @toomyconne768
    @toomyconne768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Did Russell look down and tell them to remove that spiristic pyramid from his grave? 😒

    • @ronnycorea2660
      @ronnycorea2660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Most probably he did.

    • @madamecurious
      @madamecurious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No, he was mad!!! Russell was a believer in the pyramid, he even traveled to Egypt to take measurements of the great pyramid of Giza himself, to prove that they point to the year 1914. J. F. Rutherford insisted then later that the pyramid is from Satan. He came up with his own crazy and false teachings.

  • @name_undefined
    @name_undefined 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Tony: Last night, I vommed all over the floor cause I drank too much. Luckily, the mess only got on the tile and not on my carpet. I truly saw Jehovah’s hand in this trial.

  • @deydododontdedoh.5672
    @deydododontdedoh.5672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I always hate the way they refer to CTR or old literature and yet CTR would be disfellowshiped if held by today's Watchtower standards and how Watchtower will not allow access to pre 1950's literature that they like to refer back to and make selected quotes from. they like to select parts to create a curated positive history of Watchtower while omitting all the crazy stuff.

    • @catmomto7996
      @catmomto7996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Russell would definatly be disfellowshipped since he taught Jesus should be worshipped. Interesting how they say the org was chosen in 1919 when they worshipped Jesus until 1954.

    • @gbnomore3918
      @gbnomore3918 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So basically what it comes down to is how can we roll up this bullshit and keep rolling it up and stuffing it down dumbass peoples throats? Oh Yum bullshit I love eating it! When I was a kid I remember seeing the chickens going out and getting in the piles of cow shit and just tearing it up eating the seeds they found in there. They would have that cow manure all over their bodies. There you go JW’s!

  • @name_undefined
    @name_undefined 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    3:04:26 I showed Lett’s stage voice section to my dad (who knows nothing about JWs) and his response was “What a f**king weirdo, god…”

    • @phoenixchick5088
      @phoenixchick5088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😆 When I was 1st shown a broadcast it was Lett and that was my reaction. I said to the lady
      "what's up w this guy 🤨😕 "
      She goes "oh that's brother Lett he's sweet"

    • @name_undefined
      @name_undefined 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@phoenixchick5088 It’s interesting you mention that, cause don’t a lot of JWs find Lett endearing?

    • @phoenixchick5088
      @phoenixchick5088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@name_undefined I wasn't a born in, only a 4 yr study. But the lady I studied w is a 3rd generation. After she put it on I noticed his weirdness right away and I said what's up w this guy. And when she said oh that's brother Lett he's sweet.. I didn't say anything else cuz I thought no hes weird acting like that

  • @rainydays1105
    @rainydays1105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    If we all took a drink every time they said governing body/faithful slave we would all be blind drunk. Thanks for your time!

  • @steeldesignNW
    @steeldesignNW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Outstanding, excellent and super interesting rebuttal, especially about the history

    • @Adventures2024-AD
      @Adventures2024-AD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So grateful he read from the harp of God- thank you Tibor for your part- very beneficial since I imagine 20 years from now someone will debunk the propaganda from today and show how ridiculous their lies are. That’s if it lasts that long-

  • @artemisrising1693
    @artemisrising1693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It is less Staying Alive and more Tragedy - you know 'when you lose control and you got no soul it's tragedy'; here David Splane is clearly influenced and inspired by the prophetic Bee Gees.

    • @kbbrown8154
      @kbbrown8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disco lives forever.

  • @mikedraper138
    @mikedraper138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Just love it when Lett's enthusiasm lifts him right off the floor!

    • @leonnygren9394
      @leonnygren9394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's just a demon tickling him...just watch them eye's...talk about possession

    • @scoremat
      @scoremat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let Lett Levitate 🕴

    • @1TheNews
      @1TheNews 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scoremat Love it!!!!!!!!!!

  • @geoffreybunting9837
    @geoffreybunting9837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    How could Mr C T Russell be the Faithful and Discreet Slave if the Slave was chosen in 1919 and Mr Russell died in 1916?

    • @morningglory9288
      @morningglory9288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's a very good point. Had I known this before I got baptized in 1997, C.T. Russell died in 1916, I would have posed that question to my study conductor.

    • @hustonmices3976
      @hustonmices3976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well Russell only made it to construction worker in heaven since his paving the road for the real executioners.

    • @HabitualEcstasy
      @HabitualEcstasy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In the Feb 2017 watchtower, In the section titled "Who is leading god's people today" it states that the faithful slave was appointed 3 years after Russells death. But in the same article it says that he was used by Jehovah and the head of the congregation (Jesus) at a pivotal time. So does direction only come from the slave or not? These humans are clueless.

    • @hustonmices3976
      @hustonmices3976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HabitualEcstasy yeah, considering that for nearly 60-70 years the faithful and discreet slave was made up by a president and board members. Such a cooperation ranking system.

  • @canoenut
    @canoenut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    What arrogance! Declaring that Russell is in heaven, also stating the same thing for all the deceased leaders of WT, is asserting a false confirmation that they are judged faithful by God.

  • @sofiaalmeida3770
    @sofiaalmeida3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    3 hours and 23 minutes and I’m still laughing at *barbed wire” 😂

  • @Des7iny7
    @Des7iny7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Popcorn, vodka & tonic, let’s roll Lloyd!

    • @Bananahammock88
      @Bananahammock88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Starting to sound like “brother” Morris

    • @toomyconne768
      @toomyconne768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scotch too

    • @Des7iny7
      @Des7iny7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bananahammock88 he would NEVER water down his scotch! And he probably snacks on swans, like a queen 🤭😂

  • @craftyazshabbyshacjude3297
    @craftyazshabbyshacjude3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Whoop Whoop way better than going to a Meeting full of BS,....Awesome work A+ xx Thank you Tibor for your awesome work x

  • @angel22893
    @angel22893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The pope being captured showed he didn’t have gods blessing but Rutherford being captured (put in prison) didn’t??
    Or did I misunderstand?

  • @maryannlockwood7806
    @maryannlockwood7806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Looking forward to this!🙋🏻‍♀️

  • @tarachapman916
    @tarachapman916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you Lloyd you prove I wasn't crazy

  • @omnilife6660
    @omnilife6660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    the moment you stop wishing to live forever its the moment you will start to live forever, then you will know you are eternal and nobody can take that away from you.

  • @ChoiSeung1987
    @ChoiSeung1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The way you just easily and effortlessly unmask all of their lies is truly entertaining, the Governing Body doesn’t stand a CHANCE lol

  • @jovialbivouacker99
    @jovialbivouacker99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I didn’t realize that god was going to teach “christian common core” to the unrighteous ones!?!🤔 Or, that he uses a ‘pencil’ to write in the ‘Book of Life’!?! (As if god needs an eraser)🙄

    • @outtadarkness1970
      @outtadarkness1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am glad you brought up the use of a pencil in writing names in the "Book of Life". I have been out over twenty years and I was not aware of this concept as a belief of JW's. I wonder how many still in were surprised by this. He said it so casually it is either an accepted belief within the religion, or he didn't want it to attract too much attention; just slip it in unnoticed.

    • @outtadarkness1970
      @outtadarkness1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Its Me, Thank you for your explanation. It seems to me they will use it as another way of fear mongering their way to control the rank and file.

  • @tomsheppard378
    @tomsheppard378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    When he says GOAT I'm thinking of boxing, Greatest of all time

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Used in other sports too. So Messi and Ronaldo are damned??

  • @pattymc4726
    @pattymc4726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I can’t help but wonder how many of these people really believe what they are saying. Are they in these positions because they truly believe or because they have a lucrative job that they want to keep?

  • @andrewxjw
    @andrewxjw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Correct. My understanding as a JW was also that dying before Armageddon (or the GT) would give you a free pass even if you're a mass murderer. But apostates are out. People used to say maybe Hitler maybe not.

  • @crossroadcircleoffical
    @crossroadcircleoffical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Can't wait

  • @rosiej.1473
    @rosiej.1473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tibor is awesome! Thank you Tibor for helping us all!!!

  • @tarachapman916
    @tarachapman916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow if anybody ever thought something was up with the jehovah's witness religion your intuition was right!

  • @cowboiky
    @cowboiky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:14:27
    I agree with the time keeping. Before I left, I felt it was a form of Simony, considering that some witnesses had more time to spare than others. Measuring a persons available time is just the same as measuring a persons material wealth; they're things that can be measured and have value applied to them.

  • @UKS12345
    @UKS12345 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m now in my 70s and was baptised as a jw when I was 13. Always believed that if I got through Armageddon then I would be home and dry. Saved into a new order forever. Now it’s said I’m only pencilled in? Being pencilled in means I e not been granted everlasting life so it’s the same as being on probation

  • @markhoyle2988
    @markhoyle2988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just finished watching the whole show. Excellent work asusual! I'm wondering how you got access to the Leaders normal speaking voices as opposed to their stage fake voices? Very impressive indeed. I did notice that it seemed like a obvious overdub initially.

  • @MannyRosa
    @MannyRosa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:11:09
    So I’m watching this in my cubicle office space quietly with an earbud in. Lloyd mentions that the character resurrected looks like one of The BeeGees. I giggle. No biggie. Everyone is still quietly working. No harm. No foul.
    But then he says this BeeGee is studying long and hard about what’s in involved in Staying Alive! 😂😂😂 I lost it! Laughed out Loud so hard everyone kept asking what’s so funny!!! 😂😂😂😂

  • @outsidethebox704
    @outsidethebox704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can't wait to watch. I better get some popcorn ready. :)

  • @grahamfreeman2252
    @grahamfreeman2252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    If there are a hundred million people how many baby panda's will there be? How many people will have to share each baby panda?

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At 31:12...
    Atheist "There is no god!"
    Theist. "What about cream separators?"
    Atheist "Oh bugger!"
    Theist. "Checkmate atheists!"

    • @jomartin7718
      @jomartin7718 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read this before I got to the list, very confused!! 😂

    • @Aengus42
      @Aengus42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jomartin7718 Hahaha! Perfect. That made me giggle! 😆

  • @catfoodlady
    @catfoodlady 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It would be highly interesting to talk to a 1921 believer in 1921, as to their view of what Paradise Earth would be like in 2021 comparing what we now know about 2021.

  • @ishmaelesenam4278
    @ishmaelesenam4278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello Lloyd, you are great. How can I contact you? I have some vital message for you.

  • @disassociated1731
    @disassociated1731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    my parents were caught by Rutherford’s books and teachings, and i remember in the early 70s being in charge of the library in our KH, I had all these ancient books, but I didn’t read them!!! no time, being fully involved as a regular pioneer:( I d like to know if any other ex jw woke up by reading the ancient literature

    • @madamecurious
      @madamecurious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was so smart!!!! 👏
      I always looked at those books as a child thinking: “one day I’m going to read those”. I wish I had :(

    • @jw6163
      @jw6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      When my father-in-law died i inherited all his library of old books from as early as Russell including every watchtower from the very first till 1919.
      I challenge anyone to read these publications and stay on as an honest JW.
      My whole family is now OUT!!🤪

    • @madamecurious
      @madamecurious 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jw6163 ohhhhh lucky you 😊 what a “spiritual” treasure you inherited. I’m happy to hear your whole family is out
      💙

    • @madamecurious
      @madamecurious 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Eye Van Will Aims , are you from Holland?

  • @rochelle_johnston2703
    @rochelle_johnston2703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LMAO
    Your sound effects Llyod to the 'map of Europe' had me in stitches! I went back a few times it was so funny...

  • @morningglory9288
    @morningglory9288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    David Splane has a very active imagination making up stories he passes off as truth, ie C.T. Russell looking down from heaven overseeing the outworkings of the cult. 😂😂🤣
    Oh , by the way, David Splane forgot to mention the publication that bought me into their lies, "You can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth." 😬😬😬

    • @David-zc6wq
      @David-zc6wq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      'Russell looking down...' Now that they have a guardian angel, does he get a box seat with Mary and Budah or does he sit in the bleachers with the beloved family members and all dogs?

    • @leonnygren9394
      @leonnygren9394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And what does Russell see from hel....oops I mean heaven? " millions now living will die " and that " generation did pass away" and 17,000 bethelites are taking the jabs ( Revelation 16.2)...so much for those beliefs that when straight out the side of their mouth 👄😒🙄....correction edit...." millions " is now "billions"

  • @jrojala
    @jrojala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I noticed how the unrighteous man got some cream slacks as he learned about Jehovah, lol.

  • @huejazz6939
    @huejazz6939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Real Super hero’s do exist Lloyd and you are one of them. I’ve never been a JW but I grew up around the religion. Thank you for showing them true freedom.

  • @jamesniagu274
    @jamesniagu274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m dying 😂😂😂darkest Africa

  • @linasalinas7245
    @linasalinas7245 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh dear Lloyd! This is my favorite analysis of this sect. I've laughed so much with you, my ribs are sore...LOL! The Harp of God is such an exquisite material to debunk this non sense madness, as you call it. Thank you for saving me from becoming a baptized JW. Just before I started "witnessing" aka knocking on people's doors to deliver "the good news," I decided to do a little research and found your channel. I became a subscriber in 2017 and will always watch your educational videos. I sent Bottlegate to my JW sister and she defended Tony Morris with a cape and a sword and said that she will remain loyal to Jehovah, no matter what! A few days ago, I told her that armageddon was predicted many times and we're still here. I asked her how is it that they got it wrong if they (Gov body), have direct communication with Jehovah? She got soooo mad at me (oooopppps!), and told me that she would stop talking to me, if I offended her God, her religion and her believes ever again. I appologized for offending her, but I said that my opinion about the Gov boddy and their non sense teachings will remain the same. I said I had so many questions and she offered to answer all of my doubts. So, I challenged her and asked her to answer a big question I have, if she was willing to see evidence of their (Gov body), falsehood and hypocrisy. She declined....hahahhaaa. She forgave me, and I promised to never try to open her eyes again because it was more likely that I'd reach the sun, before waking her up. Same goes for my mother, they are both lost cases. I'm grateful to be educated by you, rather than by those charlatans. Amen! 😜
    Keep it up, Loyd! We all need you. Hugs from Vancouver 🇨🇦

  • @ChoiSeung1987
    @ChoiSeung1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Bee Gees references took me OUT 😂

  • @BigBubbleNoTrouble478
    @BigBubbleNoTrouble478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Lloyd, love your channel. Can you provide a link to the JW book about the cross? I'm trying to find the document they misquote from. Thank you

    • @LloydEvans
      @LloydEvans  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Can you clarify which book you're talking about? This is a premiere and you are commenting before having watched it.

    • @BigBubbleNoTrouble478
      @BigBubbleNoTrouble478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think it was Paridise or Truth book. It was 1972 and a lot of water under the bridge since then. Anyway it was on pages 402/403. See earlier comment with link. Love your vids.

  • @rationaltrekker2509
    @rationaltrekker2509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Lloyd. Your channel is my first in-depth exposure to the JW cult. I'm just turning 60 this month and was raised Anglican and then joined the Eastern Orthodox Church, went to seminary, and was quite active and devout since I was little. Now I am a non believer. I think what attracts me to your videos are two things: 1) it's just so amazing how utterly patronizing, condescending, and manipulative the JW leadership can be. My dad was atheist and very worried I'd get into a cult. I think I understand FAR better now why that was such a worry for him. 2) While my experience in the Orthodox Church was 90% positive and I was able to walk away easily and still have Orthodox friends (including a priest with whom I get together every couple of months), I have seen cultish Orthodox communities and your videos make me think about how practices that I experienced as being innocuous, or even genuinely therapeutic in conjunction with professional help, could be used to control people. After seeing your videos, I have to wonder how my experience compares with the experience of Orthodox /Catholic (they were 1 church in the first millennium) Christians over the centuries.

    • @korolr
      @korolr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are many Eastern Orthodox churches, for example, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, the Russian Orthodox Church, the Georgian Orthodox Church, the Bulgarian Orthodox Church, the Serbian Orthodox Church, and so on. Which one do you have in mind?

    • @rationaltrekker2509
      @rationaltrekker2509 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@korolr For this purpose, it doesn't matter. Disregarding for the moment the problems raised by the Patriarchate of Constantinople's recent actions involving Ukraine, all of the local autocephalous churches that comprise the Orthodox Church are just local administrations. They are united in beliefs and sacramental communion. I happened to belong to the Orthodox Church in America, which received canonical independence from the Russian Orthodox Church in 1970. By the way, my best friend's name is Roman. Are you, by chance Orthodox, at least by baptism if not currently practicing?

  • @polish-american8107
    @polish-american8107 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lloyd your first 49 minutes are pure brilliance! I had to watch it a few times just to marvel at your take down. Well done!

  • @kelleydennis2817
    @kelleydennis2817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So glad you have that book from 1921!!

  • @Cat_Woods
    @Cat_Woods 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Was "Staying Alive" a deliberate pun for the BeeGee? Very clever.

  • @em-pc7rk
    @em-pc7rk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how much Lloyd is bringing to the war with watchtower. Keep uncovering their lies, mate 👍🏼

  • @ThejoshOsegueda
    @ThejoshOsegueda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This might be your best video! Amazing!!!!

  • @buruku34
    @buruku34 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u Lloyd, one more time from Spain. You also have given me so much peace of mind.

  • @aryastark1914
    @aryastark1914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The special full-time servants were especially glad their stipends weren’t reduced (as they normally would be) due to their reduced hours in the ministry

  • @bruderk4257
    @bruderk4257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    23:45 brings back to my mind the removal of Russell's pyramid.

  • @cindyluwho72
    @cindyluwho72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eagerly awaiting parts 3 & 4

  • @gbunting7905
    @gbunting7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've just looked up "carborundum", and it's a compound of carbon and silicon, used especially as an abrasive

  • @MichaelSmith-lm5sl
    @MichaelSmith-lm5sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We need someone to release Governing Body procedure manual, it would be epic

  • @redastair
    @redastair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @1:04:10 - "Jesus, what do I need to do to be saved?" "Well, have you got a notepad handy? Let's draw up a little matrix... let's scrap that stuff where I was explaining what I meant by 'generation' and start again. OK, so... are we talking pre or post me?" My goodness it's a complicated path to salvation.

  • @dianesicgala4310
    @dianesicgala4310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Lloyed.

  • @mikewhites8348
    @mikewhites8348 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:08:00 to 2:10:00 was a devastating reasoning!
    Well done Lloyd!!

  • @faibios1
    @faibios1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ‘new light’ regarding Armageddon is just the plot of the final season of Netflix series ‘the good place’ where you can get better after you die to get into the real good place lol

  • @rmayerCPA
    @rmayerCPA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a professor at a State University. We shut down on March 11th due to Covid. Based on what you are showing, the GB was behind the curve.

  • @terrestrialcelestial
    @terrestrialcelestial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Governing Body says Jehovah reveals new light to them when he is ready, when he wants them to have it. So in turn they reveal the new light to the rank and file when THEY are ready which just feeds their power trip and allows them to play God. It's really sick.

  • @1menwolfpack550
    @1menwolfpack550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Splane mentioned in 6:45 that" In 1919 Babylon the great fell"... Aren't we still waiting for that to happen and doesn't Babylon the great falls in the sense we're the government destroys it?" How come they didn't told us about this because all of us JWS know that's a Major sign that IMMEDIATELY after that the great tribulation will start ending in Armageddon. Wow just wow...

  • @katew.9402
    @katew.9402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the image of Jehovah's Book of Life, in which he writes using Jehovah's Pencil, and occasionally removes names using Jehovah's Rubber 🤣

  • @Sittingstraight12
    @Sittingstraight12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thousands of companies have benefited from Jehovahs hand for Zoom.
    YAY JEHOVAH!! You’re the best of all the gods in the universe!

  • @outtadarkness1970
    @outtadarkness1970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Let me get this straight: 1) The anointed have their names written in indelible ink in God's book, but the "Great Crowd" have their name written in easily erased pencil... And, 2) In the "New System" the "Great Crowd" are joined by possibly wicked ones who are on double secret probation?!

  • @angelatabbs2567
    @angelatabbs2567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for you’re videos. They have help me understand this organization so much better. Still happy that I am out.

  • @finnguy9096
    @finnguy9096 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:58:00 To be fair, they usually send a letter soon after the AN where highlights and new publications are told to everyone.

  • @charmainemarino4151
    @charmainemarino4151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is insanity. Charles T Russell... heavenly view... actively involved, huh?? WOW

  • @ArtfullyMusingLaura
    @ArtfullyMusingLaura 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just to keep the record straight, on April 6th, 2021 vaccines were available for everyone 30+ in New York state. Once again they are making it sound like they were doing something special to get their people vaccinated when it had nothing to do with them. If they got some for younger people then they were taking them from 30+ in the general community instead of waiting their turn. Older people were eligible before April 6th.

  • @sofiaalmeida3770
    @sofiaalmeida3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I saw a recent portuguese documentary about jw’s where they say there’s a new date for this stubborn Armageddon to come, in 2034. Is there really a new date?? Good grief…..

    • @amym8073
      @amym8073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting can you post the link in the comments, would love to watch it. Have heard that date being thrown around, but never by anyone officially of the governing body

    • @sofiaalmeida3770
      @sofiaalmeida3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amym8073 I posted the link above, but in case TH-cam doesn’t aprove the link, the title of the video is “documentario na sombra do pecado testemunhas de jeova canal tvi de portugal”. They say it in the last two minutes of the video.

    • @amym8073
      @amym8073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much!!

    • @joanferguson4194
      @joanferguson4194 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t note the date of the publication but someone scanned it to an ex-JW support forum and it seems Watchtower is now tossing out little snippets of hints about 2034 because it was 120 years Noah preached about the end and 120 years from 1914 is 2034. They did this same thing in the mid 1960’s when they first mentioned the date of 1975. And we all know what that led to.. one of their worst episodes of arrogant gaslighting.

    • @sofiaalmeida3770
      @sofiaalmeida3770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joanferguson4194 I’ll try and find out the date of the documentary, if I do I’ll post it here 👍🏻

  • @euricuoreendlesslove7527
    @euricuoreendlesslove7527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hahahahhaha thank you bro may this video reach everyone 🐛🦋💞☀️💖🌞👌👏👌👏🤗🙏🙏🙏

  • @slymm619
    @slymm619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:08:50 - If I were still in this cul... I mean religion, and heard this whole part... I'd walk out and never come back....
    Lloyd, you are uncovering so much good from this scam!!! thank YOU

  • @reflexsoundz
    @reflexsoundz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:17:59 towards the end... that Elderly Man said ...."I am so absolutely grateful to the governing body".....this is really sad. He's not even grateful to God, it's the Governing Body 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @redastair
    @redastair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Final comment: Wow! This really is one of the most insane bits of JW rambling yet. And that last section of the Annual Meeting was devoted to the special pioneers? Who knew. All they did was talk about the direction from the GB. You'd think a couple of experiences might be useful but no - everything good was from the wise counsel of the GB. I suppose this really is the natural outcome of them taking centre stage and the invisible men of the Watchtower now stepping into the lights of Ramapo. I saw someone else talking about the JWs the other day and quoted from the WT - in three consecutive paragraphs the focus was on the GB (and taking direction from) - an incredible change from the past. All hail the GB!

  • @Ottonio
    @Ottonio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So before a book goes in print, it had been circulated about 6 million copies of it. Miracle! (12:30)

  • @sofiamorgan6644
    @sofiamorgan6644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting that the resurrected clean shaven dude accepted the teachings in the new system and the bearded BeeGee rejected it. It’s all in the facial hair. Lol

  • @katew.9402
    @katew.9402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Our local school district also had a really good Covid response. Schools shut down on March 13, 2020, and they immediately put on a remote instruction programme for students for the remainder of the school year. Then they conducted the entire new school year 2020/21 remotely via Zoom. They were perfectly capable of setting up this system and following public health guidelines without any helping hand from any deity whatsoever.