Review: Vikingur Olafsson's Helter-Skelter Goldberg Variations

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  • @tragoudia
    @tragoudia ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Mr. Hurwitz, this was absolutely hilarious! You are a real critical treat.

  • @eisenaechery7591
    @eisenaechery7591 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    God Dave I laughed myself silly, what a treat on a Saturday morning. Thank you so much!

    • @gianlucadanzeo5791
      @gianlucadanzeo5791 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had a very hard time deciding between “tentacular appendages” and “flatulence” 😂

  • @brennanjordan9447
    @brennanjordan9447 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a geologists who does some research and teaching in Iceland, I loved your appreciation of the landscape and geology of Iceland, and the Geysir gift shop! Not to mention the pose-work in this video. And still, you deliver the real value in the review... thanks for that. Love the channel. Keep up the good work Dave!

  • @dektarium
    @dektarium ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just wanted to let you know I think your reviews are preposterously entertaining. Thank you, and please keep'em coming! (subscribed, obviously)

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Olafson extends his digits on the seashore as a way to channel the Force and the Muses and the anima and the zeitgeist and the living force of the Icelandic Gaia. But he's probably thinking how much he'd rather be eating Pringles.
    I also appreciate that Dave has resurrected his cheerleading skills from high school for this video.

  • @reamartin6458
    @reamartin6458 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seriously, I love you Dave. This review is the only gold that came out of the geyser 😊 It’s a classic!

  • @jdistler2
    @jdistler2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It's a strange recording, indeed. Certain variations come off wonderfully well. Variations 7, 8 and 9 are really eloquent and well sculpted, although I liked Variation 25 more than you did because of the pianist's simplicity and sobriety here. On the other hand, Olafsson pushed Variation 29's broken chords to the point where he drops beats here and there. He basically doesn't project a unified whole or a strong sense of cumulative momentum. It's interesting to compare Olafsson alongside the piano Goldbergs that DG released right before this one with Lang Lang. The latter is unabashedly affetuouso throughout, yet he realizes his conception with far more consistency and conviction throughout, like it or not.

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The keyboard gods have spoken! Thanks Jed.

    • @WMAlbers1
      @WMAlbers1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Lang Lang plays variation 25 even longer. Sehr Lang... 😉

    • @NN-df7hl
      @NN-df7hl ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I liked his Var. 25 too! :) Also liked some of his other slower, more contemplative takes, like for Var. 15, Canon on the 5th (makes it sound like another "Black Pearl"). Definitely has his own vision. What others might call "bizarre quirks" are the very things that beguile me. I hear the work in a different light. Just speaking as a layperson ! :D

    • @howard5992
      @howard5992 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NN-df7hl Thank you for this balanced comment. I think David is appreciative of the performance too. His criticism is leavened with ample praise.

  • @francis-808
    @francis-808 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Seems like quite a bit of money was spent on the packaging. Dave, after those spectacular poses, I can only imagine we’ll be seeing you in the next Dolce & Gabbana show in Paris. Rock on. 🤘

  • @deHaanA
    @deHaanA ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Spot on. I was listening to Hannes Minnaar doing these on the piano the other day: so much more balanced and better if every way.

  • @kevinw.1934
    @kevinw.1934 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Freakin' hilarious, Mr. Hurwitz, thanks. I've always regarded Iceland as a potential emergency landing spot if a plane carrying me to London dropped an engine, but now that I know there are 30, count 'em, 30 flavors of Pringles to be had, the country has moved way up on my "must try before I die" list.

  • @dennischiapello7243
    @dennischiapello7243 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    DGG seems to be taking this tack with all their young artists lately. Not to the same extent as with Olafsson, perhaps, who's even had a couple of music videos. That photo spread is really over the top.
    I recently attended a performance of the Goldbergs by Evan Shinners (of the WTF Bach podcast.) I was trepidatious, expecting a long, reverential performance. But Shinners launched into the aria with a relatively swift tempo and refreshing muscularity, with a sort of "Let's do this!" spirit. His somewhat egg-heady mini-lectures along the way were truly engaging and actually helped the evening move along. His technique was fully up to the demands, though not as fault-free as that of a full-time professional concertizer. (On the other hand, for the variations specified for two ranks, he used a second piano set at 90 degrees, which was a sight to behold.)

  • @bendingcaesar65
    @bendingcaesar65 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Once again, I love how you cut through the bullshit, Dave. Thank you!

  • @frankaoi9701
    @frankaoi9701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved it. Great review and the best "visuals" 😄

  • @andrewhcit
    @andrewhcit ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love some of Vikingur Olafsson's earlier recordings (his Debussy-Rameau album in particular), but even just hearing previews of his Goldberg Variations, I can't help but think he's trying too hard to be quirky and different here.

  • @artje123
    @artje123 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love your comments on this guy, and the attempt to make him a cult figure lol

  • @davidrowe3356
    @davidrowe3356 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It could be fantastic for DG to put together a mangled-hand competition between Vikingur and Lang Lang!!! "Piano mangled for four-hands."

  • @salt_cots
    @salt_cots 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I believe DG will be issuing a video (possibly also a CD) of the performance in Seoul, South Korea towards the end of the world tour. It will be interesting to hear if Vikungur Olafsson has modified any of his interpretative decisions in the light of concert experience. I thought the tempos extreme - both ways. If Variation 15 is an ANDANTE, then I'm a Dutchman (I'm Scottish). I've also tried a few recent recordings of Young Pretenders to the Goldberg throne, and I'm dismayed by a detached, "pecking" tone as if there's an attempt to replicate a harpsichord. Where is the true legato? It was a relief to return to András Schiff, Basel 2003 on ECM.

  • @mancal5829
    @mancal5829 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Not a single picture of J.S. Bach, huh?

    • @reamartin6458
      @reamartin6458 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bach is not an Instagram influencer…so no

  • @michaelmurray8742
    @michaelmurray8742 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must admit I found myself watching the imagery rather than listening to the actual review. Point well made 😅

  • @smurashige
    @smurashige ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Tenticular appendages"!!!!????!!!! 😹I love it! (Been listening to Boccherini symphonies - love them, thank you!)

  • @jg5861
    @jg5861 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't understand what people find especially seductive in his way of playing. I heard a lot of snippets of this and other stuff, and I found all of it always dry in expression, mechanical or with very strange changes in the middle of a phrase... I thought it somehow eccentric for differentiation's sake, shuffling style out of the scene. It always shouts to me: "HEY! NOTICE ME!" And so many pianists go into this trap with the Goldbergs since Gould started us thinking of precision and detail-oriented articulation for Bach on piano (and of irritatingly mechanical ornaments, by the way). I mean, why do it like this today? Gould had a context to do it, in which that 'objectivity' was new and fresh, and on piano, which was rare. And he was always coherent during the whole work in that. And what on earth is that over-the top pop-styled visual presentation (a presentation we only have access to INSIDE the product, which means it won't even be useful to get potential buyers' attention!)? I just find all of this a huge nonsense, to be honest. And I'm not saying he's not capable of playing great - he obviously is fabulously equipped! -, but I'm saying I really think he isn't doing it because his approach undermines a better result.

    • @reamartin6458
      @reamartin6458 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s nothing but a hype machine, people have to be told what to think these days

    • @jg5861
      @jg5861 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@reamartin6458 Yes, I know... I teach teenage people and that's quite noticeable. But unfortunately in many cases the problem affects much older people also.

  • @josephhapp9
    @josephhapp9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your presentations.

  • @dariocaporuscio8701
    @dariocaporuscio8701 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I heard him live playing Goldberg recently and it was quite good, but it's such a pity that record labels try to push their artists in this questionable way, do they really think that is necessary in order for people to buy their cd?

  • @gabibensimon9
    @gabibensimon9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Dave: after hearing your Pringles review; as always excellent review !!, went to Spotify to hear what’s its all about: very nice performance I must say, as my wife told me (coming from the kitchen to our study room following the music: “it looks like this is the way Glen Gould would had played the variations if we would not had a complicated personality”..) many thanks , Gabriel from IL.

  • @zevnikov
    @zevnikov ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hahaha Dave. I adore your cynical viewpoints. This was the gayest pose and review ever. You are the devil himself. Don't stop this crazines. You should start selling wallpapers with your reviewing pose. Greetings from your biggest fan from Slovenia.

  • @zdl1965
    @zdl1965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Speaking of self-indulgent Goldbergs, how does this compare with Lang Lang's?
    What does Jed think?

    • @jdistler2
      @jdistler2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I commented above. Basically I respect how Lang Lang conveys his overly affetuoso conception with total conviction, consistency and sincerity. I once wrote how Schiff, Hewitt and Perahia approach the Goldbergs like Proust embarking on an epic novel, while Lang Lang is analogous to a Spielberg film epic that's populist, heart-on-sleeve and technically brilliant. I may not agree with Lang Lang, yet there's no question that he realizes his aims to perfection.

  • @AlexMadorsky
    @AlexMadorsky ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like you’re working on a hitherto unknown 48-mallet technique for contrabass vibraphone.

  • @providence51
    @providence51 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my laugh for the day, thanks a bunch!

  • @scp240
    @scp240 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I earlier reserved my ticket to his performance here in Philadelphia in January of what else? The Goldberg Variations. To be honest I have not heard any of his recordings but I will take a listen now and see how he stacks up against Perahia and Gould. Very entertaining review! I would advise most people to avoid Pringles or any other brand of potato chips but that’s just health conscious me.

    • @davidalpern9297
      @davidalpern9297 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll be there as well, listening with Dave's commentary simultaneously floating around my brain.

    • @scp240
      @scp240 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidalpern9297 hope to see you there! I’ve since listened to Olafsson’s Goldberg and I rather enjoyed it. Apparently this is the top selling disc of 2023 at Presto Music. I also listened to his Rameau/Debussy recital and although it was well done and I am a fan of both composers I thought it a weird juxtaposition. No doubt he is very talented and I look forward to the concert in Philly later this month. I belief he is also performing at Carnegie Hall in early February.

    • @davidalpern9297
      @davidalpern9297 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scp240 Just a ping to say that I'll be at the sold out concert in Phila. Check with Miles or Brad behind the box office desk to point me out if you'd like to chat. I think there will be some lively conversation following the inevitable standing ovation.

    • @scp240
      @scp240 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidalpern9297 ok David that sounds like fun. See you there!

  • @NemesisCOD
    @NemesisCOD ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just discovered this channel and am eager to go through some of your older videos!
    My opinion? It almost feels like he is trying to make a "hit" out of one or more variations by either being overly flashy some places, and romantic in others. When you listen to the whole work this results in "helter skelter" like you said.
    There is something disjointed and unfulfilling about this record. Some variations are taken slow and romantic (like we would expect from Olafsson's "usual" style), whereas other variations literally sound like copies of Gould. Contrasts in playing can be great, but this felt too all over the place and there doesn't seem to be an overall arch or narrative to the thing.
    I wonder if he was truly ready at this point in his life to play this work. I agree with other commenters that you can somewhat compare this to Lang Lang's recent performance ("young," hyped up pianists). I didn't love Lang Lang but at least he maintained an overall mood and respectable approach throughout the whole work,

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with you. Lang Lang had a better integrated sense of the piece.

  • @rebeckyc1401
    @rebeckyc1401 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of current recordings I really enjoyed David Fray. Wondered if you’ve heard it.
    The few clips I’ve heard of Olafsson seemed extreme.

  • @walterwinterfeldt3232
    @walterwinterfeldt3232 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Dave! You saved me from spending money on his Bach disc. I'll stick with the marvelous Perahia, Maria Tipo on EMI, and Beatrice Rana on Warner, and of course all the Gould outtakes on SONY😂.

    • @daniandres3211
      @daniandres3211 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I recommend listening to Gustav Leonhardt's recordings of the Goldbergs on the harpsichord!

  • @dmntuba
    @dmntuba ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LMAO!!!! 🤣
    I needed that 👍

  • @HenkvanElst
    @HenkvanElst ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This review was a kind of "Beaves and Butthead" go classical

  • @galenschram9318
    @galenschram9318 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way they (DG/Universal/whoever) are packaging these releases reminds me of trying to find a recipe for anything online; there is always some extended write up/backstory from the author that they feel they need to share and make you scroll through for some reason before you find the actual recipe. It's all redundant, especially if the recipe is not very good in the end.

  • @xavierotazu5805
    @xavierotazu5805 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hilarious sarcasm. I love it! I think these kind of releases are an insult to the intelligence of the listener. They try to sell you music through something completely unrelated to music. Modern times.

  • @albiepalbie5040
    @albiepalbie5040 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A work in progress ?
    Maybe if he records it again after his world tour might be interesting

  • @Ashley-qc2sc
    @Ashley-qc2sc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw VO play the GVs live in Madrid and enjoyed it but concur that he pushes all the tempos to the extreme, but the thing that bothered me most was he often went from a slow to a fast var. by starting the fast with an accelerando, which really distorted the shape of the opening phrase.

  • @scarboz40
    @scarboz40 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tremendous voguing by Mr. Hurwitz! Call David Fincher it's time to remake the Madonna video. As an aside, I do like the way he plays Philip Glass....

  • @mikeleghorn6092
    @mikeleghorn6092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave I totally agree with you. I was turned for by the quirkiness of the interpretations of the various movements. I don’t go for such gimmicks. They distract from what’s great in the music.

  • @papagen00
    @papagen00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you ever review Lang Lang's Goldberg

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope.

    • @papagen00
      @papagen00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DavesClassicalGuideyou should, it's far worse.

  • @richardwhitehouse8762
    @richardwhitehouse8762 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I have a criticism of your reviews, Dave, it's that sometimes you understate your opinions and leave us guessing as to what you mean. Maybe you could introduce a bit of levity into the proceedings. Just a thought.
    Anyway, keep up the good work.
    With best wishes from the UK.

  • @carlconnor5173
    @carlconnor5173 ปีที่แล้ว

    I couldn’t stop laughing! I laughed so hard my eyes watered up and my gut hurt.

  • @hamidrezahabibi8111
    @hamidrezahabibi8111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no problem with the performance but I prefer Simone Dinnerstein’s. And you’re absolutely correct about the record label’s marketing and photography strategies which is not suitable for such an important composition. It might be suitable for Dianna Krall’s albums 😅

  • @d.r.martin6301
    @d.r.martin6301 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The marketing department run rampant; which is what they'll do when they think they have a special sort of performer. He is, at base, a very fine pianist. But compared to some of his other projects-the Debussy/Rameau especially-this is not very effective. I just saw him play it in St. Paul, and while some of the variations were absolutely lovely, others were terribly rushed and yet others pulled out to the point of distortion like taffy. I trust he will get a better grip on the GBs as he matures. P.S. FYI, when he was introduced in St. Paul by the Schubert Club's head, the name is pronounced Vik-ing-gur, not Vike-ing-gur.

  • @mcintertz5593
    @mcintertz5593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad to hear some comments I finally agree with, I feel like whoever is trying to create this ‘cult of personality’ you mention is also paying off other critics. Getting all these rave reviews for reasons I can’t really understand. At least it’s not as bad as lang langs though.

  • @martinstechele8001
    @martinstechele8001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this review! DGG trying to create personal cults for certain artists by including strange pictures in the CDs is really ridiculous. Variation No 25: I have heard Vikingur live in concert with Goldberg Variations some time last autumn in Munich and back then the tempo of No 25 was maybe even slightly slower than in the recording. People sitting next to me became nervous, could no longer concentrate and started fidgeting on their seats. In fact I was in some way fascinated by this slow tempo. However, it also meant that No 25 was taken out of context which was most likely not in the sense of JS Bach.

  • @bohoh1986
    @bohoh1986 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you Dave!

  • @michaelcallahan4561
    @michaelcallahan4561 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I look forward to your further reviews of canned potato-chips, as I feel your talents are most aligned in this direction... (and don't give up those modern dance aspirations!)

  • @peterhaslund
    @peterhaslund ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always hilarious. Icelanders tend to view themselves as artistic volcanoes (Hello, Björk!) but often mostly get labeled that way by lazy record companies who want to cash in without investing

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I definitely get the impression that the stereotype of the Icelandic musician comes directly from Björk.

  • @ronnyskaar3737
    @ronnyskaar3737 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I recently heard him doing the Goldberg variations in concert here in Bergen. It was technically brilliant of course. But a little boring. Calculated in a way. Clinical...

    • @reamartin6458
      @reamartin6458 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s a clone of a musical artist he’s not a real McCoy

  • @kushaldasgupta
    @kushaldasgupta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

  • @patrickm1268
    @patrickm1268 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Record companies tend to concentrate more on the artist than the music. I have a CD of Daniil Trifonov playing Rachmaninoff in which they dress him up in an old style suit sitting in an ancient train to make him look like the composer. Can anything be mre ridiculous ?

  • @slubert
    @slubert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes! The cult of personality. My grandma, like all the boomers in iceland almost doesn't want to have an opinion on a piano work if Vìkingur hasnt made a recording of it. Me: "Grandma, what do you think of x?". Grandma: "STOP!, Vìkingur hasnt made a recording of it yet so i dont have an opinion on it yet"

  • @Bobbnoxious
    @Bobbnoxious ปีที่แล้ว

    You could've nailed the Glenn Gould gesture by lowering your nose towards the bottom of the screen

  • @michaelanderson9179
    @michaelanderson9179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This reminds me of something I noticed with author pictures on the back of hardback books. Generally, the early (critically acclaimed) books would usually have the author posed at a desk looking studious. But the moment the author photo changed to them trying to look “cool” (they got a leather jacket or started unbuttoning their shirts a bit too low) - that’s always the book that was a big disappointment.
    Shame to hear this, as I am a big fan of VO’s early albums. The ones where he looks like a nerd on the cover. Coincidence?

  • @asheko
    @asheko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really funny !

  • @TheYuhasz01
    @TheYuhasz01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you I really found the satire here hilarious!

  • @josephpearson2230
    @josephpearson2230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤣😂😅😅😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅🤣

  • @AntoninPassemardPaintings
    @AntoninPassemardPaintings ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😂😂😂

  • @able763
    @able763 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried to like it but it was just not "of a piece". Sad.

  • @glenngouldification
    @glenngouldification 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not looking forward to his “mangled feet” album !

  • @joskabouw
    @joskabouw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mmmm can I criticize...
    No need to tear the guy down, bullying
    Too much about the hands and pictures and creativity.
    Just about the work is more then enough

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, it is not enough. The CD is a physical product. Packaging and presentation directly influence our perceptions of the artist and the music, and they are valid subjects for criticism too.

    • @joskabouw
      @joskabouw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DavesClassicalGuide no need to do these poses!
      Just poor criticism
      Their or his creative team decided to do something you may not appreciate. Just say you don't like it. Done
      I have no need to criticize your looks or bully for it.
      That doesn't mean you can have a perspective on clásica music that can broadens my opinion on something i haven't heard yet