South African here. Mo is SOLID and he actually cares about African issues. The Interviewer Tim holds Eurocentric views, he also failed to answer all the questions thrown back at him about the hypocrisy of the Global North. Mo has represented us well.
Mo has Africacentric views, Tim Eurocentric, thats a given fact. It also affects how Mo is wrong about some things that has happened in EU, for example of course EU will take care of EU people first, just like African would take care of African first. Also Greece financial crisis wasn't immidiately sorted out, many EU countries had to give financial aid to Greece, and multiple times and it took years, think my country gave Greece financial aid 2 times, the money didn't just pop into existence. Greece got also quite a bit criticism from this and they also had huge internal crisis because of this. Thankfully Greece sorted this out with the aid as far as I am aware. But again Greece is in EU and its part of EU internal politics, African continent is part of EU foreign politics. It's same as if say Ethiopia is in financial crisis and rest of African Union came to its aid.
Mo cares more about you, than your own ANC government. Instead of emancipating yourself you keep falling for the cheap drivel of everything is the fault of the west. Your people keep selling their vote for a t-shirt and a bucket of fried chicken to a bunch of corrupt crooks who will sell the whole country until there is nothing of value left. Do you honestly think the Chinese or Russians make better partners to you?😂 I love your country and wish you the very best!
There is more distastes and rotten geo-politicals perspectives about the westerns world, their euro-centrics, their medias and governance. All their nuance is hidden under capitalism and entitlement to dominate , colonised (in many disguises), and hawkish interventions. The political adage for Africans to debunk the socio philosophy of euro-centric minds. Africa would requires a revolution to remove the illegitimacy of euro centrism, and begin a new dawn of African perspectives.
@@Jahvec Yet many EU countries have continuously purchased Russian gas through India, blatant double dealing while claiming to support Ukraine. You also didn't address Bobby's point on european hypocrisy - sure they may be looking out for their own interests (duh) but why is the onus on condemning Russia solely on Africans?
The idea of US applying there "rules" to themselves is great. But US never could manage to do this intellectual exercise. Rules are for others - Russians, Africans, Chinese. Rules are for slaves, not for the master.
"Russians, Africans, Chinese.." Did you know African is a geographical term and not an ethnic or "rav ial" category or nationality. Africa is a continent, not a village.
@MariaNI-yf1bz What he said is correct. Show me the African country that the USA is treating as equals? I will add to his list, Arabs. Biden said he will make Saudi a pariah state. This comming from a guy that voted in favor of the war in Iraq when he was a Senator, now he wants to preach to others. I don't see anybody in the USA or the West confronting him about his obvious hypocricy. How can the Democrats even allow such a guy to run for president? When are the USA going to show us the weapons of mass destruction or pay reparations for the killing of Iraqis and destruction of their country? Will the West ever have that conversation? Was there any discussion of possibly charging Bush and Blair with War Crimes? The worst is when gas prices exploded in Bidens USA thanks to his anti energy stance he ran back to Saudi begging the very nation he threatened. The arrogance of Biden and the USA is beyond believe or comprehension. During Covid-19, Biden put a travel ban on the Southern African region because South Africa identified Omicron. The whole world followed his lead. Two weeks later the UK had ten times the daily infections of Omicron that Southern Africa states had. Guess what, no travel ban was placed on the white UK but Biden kept the travel ban on Southern African nations. Russians, Chinese , Africans and Arabs are not treated the same as others by the US. I am I white man living in Africa I know exactly how the US treats Africans.
The journalistic profession isn't what it used to be. It has been an elitist profession but it has become the most dishonest profession of all aside from the professions of politicians and lawyers. Even the anti-establishment journalists tend to lie and to be very biased because they themselves don't care for the truth anymore. Truth has been cast away from the profession. It's all about stories and making money.
It makes them squirm. I don't understand why. They aren't responsible but it seems like they want cover up the sins of their ancestors which are many. I noticed how the media has plenty of time to cover BS topics such as what kind of dress Kate Middleton was wearing or about Kim Kardashian. It's ridiculous and those of us with a brain get it. It's all orchestrated to distract from the cold hard realities set forth.
Great interview from the Elders. Africans are not slaves and won't be taking a backseat to anything. We want to be respected and just treated the same. We can't just play nice and others treat us like slaves.
I agree with you. But before we get respected by others, we need to respect ourselves first. If we can do that for ourselves, we should not expect any other people to respect us
@@kassimsaeed789 I agree and I can say we have been trying but sabotage elements are used to created divisions within our communities. Be it race or ethnicity etc. so until we al wake up to the agenda then we just in the system of distraction and this systems are affecting all people in their communities. Waking up to tyranny is important for world peace.
Then if that’s what we want we need to stop taking Chenese money Thought we learned from west But now Chenese are doing the same to us and we accepting it Because we don’t respect ourselves and yet we expect respect elsewhere
@@busanimthati8201 not sure how the chines has done atrocities to us as done by the colonisation movement. China has been helping developing and all we know from the west and it’s allies is bullying, force and or sanctions because we want to be who we are or do things our way. China is not a saint in this as few of their people been beating and exploiting our African people; so that needs to be addressed and starts with political changes which allows for such things and or businesses of such nature to grow and thrive at the expense of all our people.
@@libconnectafrica I am Gona start by asking you how many countries in Africa did China already taken their ports? Do u know the answer to that?? It’s called debt trap How many countries have been given money by China to finance a project that they themselves know won’t make money to pay them back and u know what they do next if a country cannot afford to pay?? Confiscate the Land No one says west haven’t done anything wrong u missing the whole point We hate west so much that even if anyone is repeating the same thing that u claiming west done to us it’s ok as long as it’s not west again 😂 😂 What I was saying is why we going down that road again but with yellow people now instead?? We should be wiser enough but clearly we have not learned from our mistakes Chenese want oil to be sold using their currency but China doesn’t even have oil Why?? That’s just the tip of the iceberg I dont think u even know what’s going on When we were going through this with west our eyes were closed we didn’t see it coming but it looks like we went from our eyes closing into falling asleep 💤
I don’t think this man is explaining himself clearly. All we want in Africa is the west to leave us alone, don’t send your CIA, don’t try to destabilize our governments. Just let us be. Things such as Covid etc is not the west’s responsibility, if they want to help they do, if not they don’t. We have a lot to figure out by ourselves.
Start with the embassy. Kindly tell them to get the fak out, plesse. Thanks but please go away. You can come and work and pay taxes but you will be monitored 24/7. U dig?
Bro you can't beg a bully to leave you alone unless you punch him in the face then he will leave you alone same thing applies to all the vultures stealing our resources then telling us we are poor.
You're very quick to represent all of Africa... Wherever I come in Africa, people ask for better infrastructure and wish foreign investors would come and pay for it. You seem to have no problems at all with the Chinese currently investing in infrastructure while claiming mines, logging concessions and other natural resources.
@@l.d.t.6327 we do corrupt politicians are making millions while their citizens are starving no difference between Chinese or western countries they are both their to steal our natural resources for peanuts .
Mo is completely and utterly right in his reasoning. The journalist tried his hardest to spin the issue, to play with words and push false narratives (this is what they're paid to do, they're professional liars) and Mo completely shut him down lol
The most consequential conflict today is in Europe. EU cannot defend or negotiate peace for Ukraine at all because USA has a different view. Yet every conflict in Africa has one or more European colonial powers behind it. Despite this truth Tim has the audacity to project moral high ground over Africa and Mo Ibrahim.
@@MohamedHassan-ui1cq Most of you Sudanese re Arabized culturally and genetically, beside Arab culture, what is your true identity, you dont know, You have Arab names, practice Arab culture and Arab religion
It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
@@Julia-Richter Which one? The official Tripolis government backed by Turkey or the counter government lead by general Haftar and backed by Russians and Wagner?
No, he is NOT. He is treasonous individual and he is behind the chaos in the country.. The people of Sudan 🇸🇩 and their armed forces are United to wipe out the janjaweed militia.
Except the Ukrainians, they have to be recolonized by Russia apparently. Here's a thought: maybe we work to apply the highest standard to everyone, america and russia, one and all; instead of the lowest standard and let everyone start acting like the Americans.
Have you considered the interviewer plays a role in the interview? By posing harsh and biased questions they allow a knowledgeable interviewee to demolish those arguments. Or maybe I'm wrong and the interviewer actually believes that :D
Thank you so much Mo for this great interview highlighting the double standards of the West. I remember during COVID19 our government in Uga da could not access Vaccines with Cash payment. Efforts to share vaccine intellectual property was declined by the west because the OAU tried to get them manufactured within the continent. You always inspire me. 🎉
It is about time to highlight your double standards as well. You want companies to share with you intellectual property, which someone had to work their butt off to develop those vaccines, yet you don't share natural resources that just happened to drop inside your borders. There are a bunch of countries in the middle east and Africa whose economies rely on exporting natural resources like oil and gas. We're paying them for something they didn't make, yet you think you have the right to demand something someone had to work very hard for. The northern economies make a living out of innovation, and you do not have the right to take the fruits of their work away from them, because that is all they have left. And if you do so, there is no point in doing research if they're not going to benefit from it. If they benefit from it the exact same way as you do, then there is no point in working if they can just ask others to give a part of their own.
What double standards exactly? This is what is happening in Uganda: "Bill retains harshest measures of legislation adopted in March, including death penalty for certain same-sex acts.", why would west wish to rush to help such backwards nations that don't seem to share our values and don't even have basic human rights?
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
@@ibrahimjoel6080 You forget that Sudan was a colony of Britain. The British made it very easy to move among the colonies and to the UK since the natives provided cheap labour and bodies for their armies. Mo was born in Sudan, went to school in Egypt, worked a bit in Sudan then went for his masters in the UK and got employed there. Mo's heart is in Africa and that is how he founded Celtel. The British will give you citizenship if you are a billionaire. Ask the Russian oligarchs.
@@afrowave I don't understand the point of your comment, because it doesn't contrast what I said earlier. Anyone can become a British citizen, you don't have to be a billionaire or come from former British colony, is that not why many are migrating there via the student route.
This wicked journalist knows its people that looks like him that is the hidden hand behind this conflict and military guns dumped in Africa to cause chaso.
This is how many in the Middle East feel too and it's a fair point. There are countless times the past 50 years US has plain ignored sovereignty and either meddled with or invaded a country.
Mo is a lovely, genuine and down to earth kind of man. He’s love and intelligence really shows from his patience to answer the questions properly and including the context which the interviewer seems to lack. His eyes popping out and his posture being all bent almost hilariously reveals his lack of straightness. But I am glad he is put in his place in a so gentle and soft manner. A lovely man of Africa!
“They are playing with words” regarding South Africa’s statement about arms shipment. And the EU is playing with words as well, they are using India and Azerbaijan as middlemen and refiners for Russian oil so they can say they “aren’t depending on Russian oil” anymore.
Sanctions have to be designed in a way so that they hurt the other guy but not yourself. So having the Russians sell their oil for like half the market price and then by it from third countries makes perfect sense. The Russians got a hole in the budget while we still have our oil.
23:26 The interviewer keeps trying to get him to agree that the west is doing more and engaging more when he says clearly they have not been engaging and the words of the west have not matched their actions.
@@CausticLemons7 I understand his lack of neutrality. I don't understand his extreme self righteousness. That's the problem. Not that he isn't neutral, but that he comes of like a self-righteous prig!
@@shannonbrown5913 The so called western World that likes to police and bully the world... America, Europe, Canada, Australia all happen to be of European blood so all of this maintaining Western World economical intrests... Is just a severe case of white man's rascism ;-)
A very candid and honest discussion. The west should know that Africa is not the dark continent they were told. We are capable of discerning and make informed conclusions
Both parties did great. We Africans have a lot to do and no one will respect us unless we start respecting ourselves and voting/supporting leaders of character and competence.
Precisely, his comment about pay back for Europe colonial past is below the belt. Europe horrific colonialism in Africa is unforgettable. Its ripple and remnant effects on the People they colonized is still evident today.
@@kassimsaeed789 Absolutely, what Europe has done to Africa is so many levels above "not condemning a war". Besides, Ukraine along with most of Europe had nothing to do with colonialism, African slavery and the exploitation resources, its like 7 countries in Europe who was involved. So not only would you take vengeance on the grandchildren of the people committing the crimes in Africa, you would exact vengeance on a country who's only crime is getting help from countries that did bad stuff to Africans 1-2 centuries ago.
@@1112viggo To be honest, Africans are just finding a reason to support Russia without saying they support Russia. Africans were helped by Soviets in the fight for its liberation and this is the only way Africans are returning the favour.
Pay back? The violence has nothing to do with Africans. It's white on white violence - occasioned by senile old man that can't move past their prejudices. You don't need Africa to end this, those responsible must sit down and talk. If they do not, they can't guarantee how it ends.
After Britain has delivered long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine. 😂U$A : “These are sovereign decisions. Every country gets to make these decisions for themselves and should be allowed to speak to those decisions,” Kirby said during a press briefing.
Its always fascinating the posture of western journalists, whenever a pushback question on the behaviour of the west comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty
Its always fascinating the posture of African journalists, whenever a push-back question on the behavior of the Africa comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty, all is white men fault
No different than a lot of the pushback against the west really. They talk about bad actions taken by the west, but once it's about them they aren't as critical, and simply use the west's hypocrisy as the flimsy justification.
When it's in Ukraine then it's innocent people dieing. When it comes to Africans then it's understandable even when it's the west providing arms and supporting the chaos. In Haiti,its the US providing weapons and supporting the gangs,but no one is saying innocent people are dieing in Haiti.
US supporting gangs LOOOOL every bad thing ever - US does it LMFAO hey Haiti is free no white men on the island what is the problem why can't you run a normal functioning country ???
Well even thought Russia did help!!It did help the all Africa continent but certain countries yes!!! I'm all for Rússia to your info.. Ps:África is a continent not a country,just wat it to clarify that!!🫶🏽
18:49 Excellent points on why Africa and the Global South have been guarded in their response to Ukraine and resistant to support one side or the other. Tim just fails to see any hypocrisy in western actions as a reasons for not supporting Ukraine. Get a clue and let go of some of that self-righteousness, Tim.
Please explain this to me because it sounded like he says that African countries were hesitant to condemn russian aggression on Ukraine because America attacked Iraq. I'm Eastern European, I live with russia around the corner and I know history of my nation that had to protect itself against russia for centuries. Why Africans are talking about USA when russia is killing us, Eastern Europeans? Why we have to pay with lives for wrongdoing of USA? Why so many people act and talk as if USA is the most important country in the world and they will pretend that no big deal is happening in spite of USA? Frankly it's really painful to watch Africans and Indians normal people cheering up russian murders and rapes and kidnaping of children.
India won't be anybody's proxy in a war. India knows who's it's trusted partners are and what's in their best interest. India keeps the US and the west at an arms length , they're well aware of their imperialistic and hegemonic agendas.
Europe should stay out and stop dragging affica onto Ukraine war. Africa has enouth issues and doesn't need more piled on. At the same time Europe should stay out of Sudan and leave it to the Arabs & Africans as Europe has a bad history interfering in Africa
Should Europe and US continue providing food aid to prevent a famine which at this point may be unavoidable due to collapse of fertilizer supplies and food exports.
@@MikeRyzhikov It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
Absolutely true and honest answer by Mr Ibrahim. 👍 Europeans always start criminal wars because of money and power and then are very surprised why others don't like them 🤦♂️
selective line of questioning with bias,Mo is a smart leader.we need more Africans like him to answer bias questions not stooges like the Ghana president Nana Addo
Mo, you are a great son of Africa. May our angels travel with you and enrich your understanding to make African issues known better. Sudan deserves a president like you
African's media does the opposite I think that recent developments in Tunisia showed that North African Arabs don't want to have anything to do with the tribes that live south of them
There's an African country Western Sahara invaded by its neighbor Morocco in 1975. No effort has ever been made to bring Morocco to account. What is so special about Ukraine. Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere.
US trained officers (CIA) have attempted coups in 5 West African Countries alone:3 times in Burkina Faso, 3 times in Mali, and once each in Guinea, Mauritania, and Gambia.
You talk about a dozen apparent interventions. Have you bothered to count the amount of conflicts in Africa as a total? Stop blaming someone else. Stop being a victim. Start looking at yourself in the mirror and fix your governance for the poorest sake.
@Ugwuanyi Collins I'm not saying it didn't (nor can you say it did because you and I can only say what we've been told). You're making my point for me... You're getting stuck on something where you can blame someone else. Stop that and start doing something to get rid of the rotten leadership most of Africa saddled itself with.
The reporter tried his best to portray Africa in bad faith but Mo silenced him. 1. Africa incompetence in dealing with Sudan issue. How is the West dealing with Ukraine? They are fueling it. 2. Africa being neutral on Ukraine Russia war. Well how does taking sides solve the problem? 3. South Africa weapons to Russia. Well, Israel has enjoyed financial, political, Media, technological and Military support in crashing Palestine. The US had given more money to Ukraine this year so far then it has supported Africa the whole of last year. When China comes to help wake up Africa they attack them as debt trap colonialists. What has the donation money from World Bank, the US or any Western nation helped Africa compared to China? The reporter is a true representation of the Western hypocrisy.
I like this interview a lot. Both gentlemen are mature and makes sense when questioning and answering. A good host. A good guest. Was just like refreshing to listen to even when the topics are heavy. ❤
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
I think its not the hipocrisy alone. They started one proxy war too much, killed one president too many and finally through BRICS and dedollarisation many finally see a way out of the US debt trap the US caught them in for almost 40 years and kept them bitterly poor, despite their vast recources. Russia helped them in their wars of independence, in their fight against the Apartheid regime in S.A. and just recently released their debts. China and Russia trade with Africa but they do not force their values on them nor do they treat them like children or force austerity policies on them to squeeze even more profit from Africa to wall street. Ghadafi, who is an African heroe in many countries would be proud.
America and Europe are so delusional in thinking that the rest of the world actually regard them valuable. I hope they wake up, behave and accept their lane. Those with real resources just don't care anymore about a barking dog.
Entirely misses the point. Africa is exactly what multinational corporations want it to be: extremely profitable, and deprived of any chance of being an economic threat to the West. Exactly what the CIA has engineered it to be for the past 50-70 years, a mere continuation of the formal imperialism that preceded it; but more pervasive and endemic and systemic than that, because the average Westerner and the average capitalist alike will both willfully ignore American jingoism and pretend that Africa is what it is solely as a consequence of it's own ineptitude, rather than capitalist neocolonialism.
India should be in the same situation after British colonial rule but it managed to form a democracy. Every time we attempt to insert ourselves into Africa, fix past mistakes, it repeatedly backfires. What do you propose former colonial powers do to stabilize the African continent? Repeat a Somalia-like initiative to stop a civil war turned genocide using military force, support local government? We supported and trained special operatives in multiple African countries and it backfired several times.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp it definitely is that powerful. If you we’re underestimating that institution you should give him the respect they deserve. They have a hand in coup d’etat and other shady stuff that happen on the continent. As much, we blame terrible governance they do sometimes play apart in making sure we never have proper governance. That would not benefit them. And frankly, the must be people above CIA who are using it as tool too. At the root of the issue, it’s always a group of few individuals.
you have to distinguish between what USA are doing and what they are saying. They act according what they think their interest is, and say whatever necessary to justify it. Problem in Africa is the willingness to become violent, to think tribal
You have more EVIL INTENTIONS and you should be ashamed of yourselves. How many people will you continue to murder in this world before you will begin to think as human. Are you not satisfied with what you did in Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Afghanistan, etc
Mo has common sense and truly honest. Especially when it comes to western hypocrisy. The media should be ashamed for not answering his questions. That's why he so often said: "let's be honest here!" and "Stay in reality!"
14:49 "dont even want to talk to them" - CORRECT. The state does not negotiate with criminals. The world should not negotiate with international criminals.
@@KennyNGA "You know there are specialists in the police of every state who are called negotiators": What an inane comment. Do they "negotiate" giving victims' property to their murderers and letting them off without punishment??? In case you didn't know, NO THEY DON'T.
Tim Sebastion ? He's a poor excuse of a Journalist. Spent years reporting around the world and never once challenged the powerful or the elite in his time there. But still can't figure out why there is so much chaos in a continent strip-mined from all of its resources and owned by foreign nationals, has its boarders drawn by Europeans, and has its economic policies dictated by IMF. He's not a Journalist, he's a press secretary.
Blowback from what exactly? I don't understand what Ukraine did to deserve the ire of so many Africans, or why supporting Russian imperialism is somehow a response to historical imperialism.
@@CausticLemons7 I can't remember which African politician said this but I think it went like _"You can't rescue an injured dove from a pit of snakes"_ basically it's not that Ukraine is hated, rather those who are backing them the most heavily
@@CausticLemons7 Ukraine is in Europe and traditionally Europeans are only concerned with European affairs. Why do you think the whole world, or more particularly nations in Africa SHOULD be worried about what is going on in Ukraine?
@@shannonbrown5913 because all their grain is in danger of being stuck there.. their aid could be cut.. there could be a global slowdown which would also hurt their industries.. plus if it spirals out of control, then they may have to suck a radioactive cloud like the rest of us and additionally, they're signed up to UN. The west does condemn human rights abuse and wars of aggression in Africa though. It may not militarily intervene in them.. but it does condemn and sanction.
So why are you so interested in us if we are so bad??? You have a lot of people which means you have a lot of energy. Organize yourselves better, learn to use it, stop blaming us for all your problems. We cannot do everything for you as we have our own problems and people in need. "Support" should mean "support"... Also, it is hard to cooperate with someone who you try to give a hand to and they immediately shout around that you want to hit them.
@@eternal_ecstasy_77 Calm down Slavic-Karen. The West's problems will never be Africa's problems. Just like how the West doesn't care for African issues.
USA: You must against us if you don't support Ukraine EU: Roger that! Boss! Japan: Yes! Daddy! India: We're neutral, just selling Russian oil to EU! African: None of my business China: Any problem with you? USA!
what you talking about? he is obviously OLD and has lost his game. you want him to simply throw a few questions here and there? that's a "regular" interview aka pointless. these "leaders" need to be CONFRONTED
@@ace8184 If you don't want to listen you shouldn't be asking questions. Your idea of interrogating can be done in courts, not intervieuws. Because unlike in courts you need people to agree on participating in intervieuws.
Having alternatives affects power dynamics by increasing the power of the party with the alternatives. This is because the party with the alternatives has more options and is therefore less dependent on the other party. This can lead to the party with the alternatives being able to negotiate from a stronger position and get a better deal. Having alternatives can be a powerful tool for increasing your power in any situation. If you are aware of the power dynamics at play, you can use your advantage. Therefore, having alternatives to the west is good for Africa.
26 minute interview on Africa and the headline is about Ukraine ? why can't Africa has its own voice and identity ? Why the West wants everyone tied to their own agendas ?
Who's agendas should west be trying to tie other nations to? Indians ? Arabs ? Get a grip LOOOOL Why is this Mo guy insisting that Sudan is somehow West problem and that they should intervene financially and militarily to solve it ????
West speaks about colonialism as if is has stopped. From Physical colonialism we are now under economic colonialism. US Dollar, Euro, Technology and Global corporates are the new colonial tools that Africa cannot fight back without massive capital.
The whole interview the western guy tries to belittle opinion the African guy has, not with facts just mentoring the "right thinking". Yet kudos to the African guy, today the intelligence has beaten the ignorance!
South African here. Mo is SOLID and he actually cares about African issues. The Interviewer Tim holds Eurocentric views, he also failed to answer all the questions thrown back at him about the hypocrisy of the Global North. Mo has represented us well.
so true bafo
Mo has Africacentric views, Tim Eurocentric, thats a given fact. It also affects how Mo is wrong about some things that has happened in EU, for example of course EU will take care of EU people first, just like African would take care of African first. Also Greece financial crisis wasn't immidiately sorted out, many EU countries had to give financial aid to Greece, and multiple times and it took years, think my country gave Greece financial aid 2 times, the money didn't just pop into existence. Greece got also quite a bit criticism from this and they also had huge internal crisis because of this. Thankfully Greece sorted this out with the aid as far as I am aware.
But again Greece is in EU and its part of EU internal politics, African continent is part of EU foreign politics. It's same as if say Ethiopia is in financial crisis and rest of African Union came to its aid.
Mo cares more about you, than your own ANC government. Instead of emancipating yourself you keep falling for the cheap drivel of everything is the fault of the west. Your people keep selling their vote for a t-shirt and a bucket of fried chicken to a bunch of corrupt crooks who will sell the whole country until there is nothing of value left. Do you honestly think the Chinese or Russians make better partners to you?😂 I love your country and wish you the very best!
There is more distastes and rotten geo-politicals perspectives about the westerns world, their euro-centrics, their medias and governance. All their nuance is hidden under capitalism and entitlement to dominate , colonised (in many disguises), and hawkish interventions.
The political adage for Africans to debunk the socio philosophy of euro-centric minds. Africa would requires a revolution to remove the illegitimacy of euro centrism, and begin a new dawn of African perspectives.
@@Jahvec Yet many EU countries have continuously purchased Russian gas through India, blatant double dealing while claiming to support Ukraine. You also didn't address Bobby's point on european hypocrisy - sure they may be looking out for their own interests (duh) but why is the onus on condemning Russia solely on Africans?
The idea of US applying there "rules" to themselves is great. But US never could manage to do this intellectual exercise. Rules are for others - Russians, Africans, Chinese. Rules are for slaves, not for the master.
So Russia should be allowed to invade Ukraine because the rules are unfair by African standards?
"Russians, Africans, Chinese.."
Did you know African is a geographical term and not an ethnic or "rav ial" category or nationality. Africa is a continent, not a village.
@MariaNI-yf1bz What he said is correct. Show me the African country that the USA is treating as equals? I will add to his list, Arabs.
Biden said he will make Saudi a pariah state. This comming from a guy that voted in favor of the war in Iraq when he was a Senator, now he wants to preach to others. I don't see anybody in the USA or the West confronting him about his obvious hypocricy. How can the Democrats even allow such a guy to run for president? When are the USA going to show us the weapons of mass destruction or pay reparations for the killing of Iraqis and destruction of their country? Will the West ever have that conversation? Was there any discussion of possibly charging Bush and Blair with War Crimes?
The worst is when gas prices exploded in Bidens USA thanks to his anti energy stance he ran back to Saudi begging the very nation he threatened. The arrogance of Biden and the USA is beyond believe or comprehension.
During Covid-19, Biden put a travel ban on the Southern African region because South Africa identified Omicron. The whole world followed his lead. Two weeks later the UK had ten times the daily infections of Omicron that Southern Africa states had. Guess what, no travel ban was placed on the white UK but Biden kept the travel ban on Southern African nations.
Russians, Chinese , Africans and Arabs are not treated the same as others by the US. I am I white man living in Africa I know exactly how the US treats Africans.
@@MariaNI-yf1bz They are just generalizing, of course if you want he could certainly name every single country in the countinent if you so wish.
@@MariaNI-yf1bz doesn't matter
Why do journalists always use like,”we are running out of times”!!whenever someone points out about what’s wrong or the truth!!😂😂😂
That's so called free press technique.
It's also used a lot when mentioning israel's crimes.
The journalistic profession isn't what it used to be. It has been an elitist profession but it has become the most dishonest profession of all aside from the professions of politicians and lawyers. Even the anti-establishment journalists tend to lie and to be very biased because they themselves don't care for the truth anymore. Truth has been cast away from the profession. It's all about stories and making money.
It makes them squirm. I don't understand why. They aren't responsible but it seems like they want cover up the sins of their ancestors which are many. I noticed how the media has plenty of time to cover BS topics such as what kind of dress Kate Middleton was wearing or about Kim Kardashian. It's ridiculous and those of us with a brain get it. It's all orchestrated to distract from the cold hard realities set forth.
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Great interview from the Elders. Africans are not slaves and won't be taking a backseat to anything. We want to be respected and just treated the same. We can't just play nice and others treat us like slaves.
I agree with you. But before we get respected by others, we need to respect ourselves first. If we can do that for ourselves, we should not expect any other people to respect us
@@kassimsaeed789 I agree and I can say we have been trying but sabotage elements are used to created divisions within our communities.
Be it race or ethnicity etc. so until we al wake up to the agenda then we just in the system of distraction and this systems are affecting all people in their communities.
Waking up to tyranny is important for world peace.
Then if that’s what we want we need to stop taking Chenese money
Thought we learned from west
But now Chenese are doing the same to us and we accepting it
Because we don’t respect ourselves and yet we expect respect elsewhere
@@busanimthati8201 not sure how the chines has done atrocities to us as done by the colonisation movement.
China has been helping developing and all we know from the west and it’s allies is bullying, force and or sanctions because we want to be who we are or do things our way.
China is not a saint in this as few of their people been beating and exploiting our African people; so that needs to be addressed and starts with political changes which allows for such things and or businesses of such nature to grow and thrive at the expense of all our people.
@@libconnectafrica I am Gona start by asking you how many countries in Africa did China already taken their ports? Do u know the answer to that??
It’s called debt trap
How many countries have been given money by China to finance a project that they themselves know won’t make money to pay them back and u know what they do next if a country cannot afford to pay??
Confiscate the Land
No one says west haven’t done anything wrong u missing the whole point
We hate west so much that even if anyone is repeating the same thing that u claiming west done to us it’s ok as long as it’s not west again 😂 😂
What I was saying is why we going down that road again but with yellow people now instead??
We should be wiser enough but clearly we have not learned from our mistakes
Chenese want oil to be sold using their currency but China doesn’t even have oil
Why??
That’s just the tip of the iceberg I dont think u even know what’s going on
When we were going through this with west our eyes were closed we didn’t see it coming but it looks like we went from our eyes closing into falling asleep 💤
I don’t think this man is explaining himself clearly. All we want in Africa is the west to leave us alone, don’t send your CIA, don’t try to destabilize our governments. Just let us be. Things such as Covid etc is not the west’s responsibility, if they want to help they do, if not they don’t. We have a lot to figure out by ourselves.
A global pandemic is a global responsibility. That's why WHO exists. Nonetheless, Africa must build its own scientific capacity.
Start with the embassy. Kindly tell them to get the fak out, plesse. Thanks but please go away. You can come and work and pay taxes but you will be monitored 24/7. U dig?
Bro you can't beg a bully to leave you alone unless you punch him in the face then he will leave you alone same thing applies to all the vultures stealing our resources then telling us we are poor.
You're very quick to represent all of Africa... Wherever I come in Africa, people ask for better infrastructure and wish foreign investors would come and pay for it. You seem to have no problems at all with the Chinese currently investing in infrastructure while claiming mines, logging concessions and other natural resources.
@@l.d.t.6327 we do corrupt politicians are making millions while their citizens are starving no difference between Chinese or western countries they are both their to steal our natural resources for peanuts .
Mo is completely and utterly right in his reasoning.
The journalist tried his hardest to spin the issue, to play with words and push false narratives (this is what they're paid to do, they're professional liars) and Mo completely shut him down lol
The same journalist was the one interviewed Gadafi before a public assassination. Smoking gun...
He’s sugondese
@@ihmpall what?
Actually Sebastian seemed to me like he liked him quite a bit
@@widaa911 An outspoken African who wouldn't bow to him?
Probably not.
The most consequential conflict today is in Europe. EU cannot defend or negotiate peace for Ukraine at all because USA has a different view. Yet every conflict in Africa has one or more European colonial powers behind it. Despite this truth Tim has the audacity to project moral high ground over Africa and Mo Ibrahim.
100% that Tim is delusional.
Why re you so Arabized?
@@Kandatwitter I don't understand the question? What do you mean?
@@MohamedHassan-ui1cq If your name is Mohamed hassan thats a very Arab name, what is your real name? from your tribe
@@MohamedHassan-ui1cq Most of you Sudanese re Arabized culturally and genetically, beside Arab culture, what is your true identity, you dont know, You have Arab names, practice Arab culture and Arab religion
I like the optimistic part of his speech, Africa will find a way and we shall overcome!
Wow, Mo Ibrahim told it as it is, nothing but the truth. This man should be Sudan's next President!!
It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
In Feb. AU started a new initiative in Tripolis. Let's see, if they are able to help Libya.
@@Julia-Richter Which one? The official Tripolis government backed by Turkey or the counter government lead by general Haftar and backed by Russians and Wagner?
@@Vatnik_tschistilka The one that is backed by the people ... wait 🤔
@@Julia-Richter So the one backed by the Russians then
ICC has lost its credibility. It is political and selective.
You are Too Kind with your Sugar Coated criticism 😂
The ICC is pursuing American soldiers for their reported war crimes. Is the court biased because it pursues corrupt African statesmen?
ICC had no credibility in the first place
They are a bunch of corrupted western puppets
Such poise, intellect and grace. What an intelligent man
Mo is very consistent in his arguments and wants everyone to be treated the same.
No, he is NOT. He is treasonous individual and he is behind the chaos in the country.. The people of Sudan 🇸🇩 and their armed forces are United to wipe out the janjaweed militia.
To be treated as bad as everyone else. Nice
Except the Ukrainians, they have to be recolonized by Russia apparently. Here's a thought: maybe we work to apply the highest standard to everyone, america and russia, one and all; instead of the lowest standard and let everyone start acting like the Americans.
Mr Mo seems like a true patriot who cares deeply about his continent. Respect from India 🙏
don’t ever believe that. He is just another old puppy who waned attention .
I like him. He clearly cares about Africa, democracy, and rule of law: and he knows what those last two things actually mean.
Those 2 things don't exist though in majority of our countries.
Every foreign politic from every country is hyprocrisy.
he doesn't care enough to move in and live there though LOL
democracy and rule of law do not exist anywhere on earth ... the Russian-Ukrainian war shows us that.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp Hahaha, He's not suicidal. 😂
This is a genuine honest man need more men like him in the world and in politics not the crooks
He might appear so charming - believe me he is CROOk.
@@embaderho4807 Please explain.
Mo handled the bias of this reporter well. Let's be honest about these conversations without the halo effect of the west
Have you considered the interviewer plays a role in the interview? By posing harsh and biased questions they allow a knowledgeable interviewee to demolish those arguments.
Or maybe I'm wrong and the interviewer actually believes that :D
@@Luthieslol yea I see ur point. Let’s hope that’s the case. I don’t think he was being malicious in his approach
@@Luthies you wrong simple
@@Luthies would be understandable if that 'role' was played across the board with all interviewees. Unfortunately its not.
@@brianmath393 No, he was not. There's a chorus of naysayers on this board.
Thank you so much Mo for this great interview highlighting the double standards of the West. I remember during COVID19 our government in Uga da could not access Vaccines with Cash payment. Efforts to share vaccine intellectual property was declined by the west because the OAU tried to get them manufactured within the continent. You always inspire me. 🎉
It is about time to highlight your double standards as well. You want companies to share with you intellectual property, which someone had to work their butt off to develop those vaccines, yet you don't share natural resources that just happened to drop inside your borders. There are a bunch of countries in the middle east and Africa whose economies rely on exporting natural resources like oil and gas. We're paying them for something they didn't make, yet you think you have the right to demand something someone had to work very hard for. The northern economies make a living out of innovation, and you do not have the right to take the fruits of their work away from them, because that is all they have left. And if you do so, there is no point in doing research if they're not going to benefit from it. If they benefit from it the exact same way as you do, then there is no point in working if they can just ask others to give a part of their own.
What double standards exactly? This is what is happening in Uganda: "Bill retains harshest measures of legislation adopted in March, including death penalty for certain same-sex acts.", why would west wish to rush to help such backwards nations that don't seem to share our values and don't even have basic human rights?
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
Africans did not need that poison vaccine
Make your own then.
Who's stopping you?
Africa should NEVER condemn Russia until the Western countries condemn America for its War crimes vs Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan
When you get an African who is well-informed, the labelling is fought back with intellect.
Mo!!! 💪 You can see a hero sitting talking to a Western journalist. Thank you DW. 😃
A hero that is enjoying British citizenship and safety. Lol. He should come back home.
This man is a crook trying to influence world politics
@@ibrahimjoel6080 You forget that Sudan was a colony of Britain. The British made it very easy to move among the colonies and to the UK since the natives provided cheap labour and bodies for their armies. Mo was born in Sudan, went to school in Egypt, worked a bit in Sudan then went for his masters in the UK and got employed there. Mo's heart is in Africa and that is how he founded Celtel. The British will give you citizenship if you are a billionaire. Ask the Russian oligarchs.
@@afrowave I don't understand the point of your comment, because it doesn't contrast what I said earlier. Anyone can become a British citizen, you don't have to be a billionaire or come from former British colony, is that not why many are migrating there via the student route.
This wicked journalist knows its people that looks like him that is the hidden hand behind this conflict and military guns dumped in Africa to cause chaso.
This is how many in the Middle East feel too and it's a fair point. There are countless times the past 50 years US has plain ignored sovereignty and either meddled with or invaded a country.
MO is making more than sense we need more of him.
This was great, thank you! So much common sense in one interview, thank you!
Mo is a lovely, genuine and down to earth kind of man. He’s love and intelligence really shows from his patience to answer the questions properly and including the context which the interviewer seems to lack. His eyes popping out and his posture being all bent almost hilariously reveals his lack of straightness. But I am glad he is put in his place in a so gentle and soft manner. A lovely man of Africa!
“They are playing with words” regarding South Africa’s statement about arms shipment. And the EU is playing with words as well, they are using India and Azerbaijan as middlemen and refiners for Russian oil so they can say they “aren’t depending on Russian oil” anymore.
Sanctions have to be designed in a way so that they hurt the other guy but not yourself. So having the Russians sell their oil for like half the market price and then by it from third countries makes perfect sense. The Russians got a hole in the budget while we still have our oil.
23:26 The interviewer keeps trying to get him to agree that the west is doing more and engaging more when he says clearly they have not been engaging and the words of the west have not matched their actions.
Sabastian is never impartial, very BBC.
@@peteram9527 I am just starting to realize that.
@@peteram9527 So you watch a program literally called "Conflict Zone" but don't understand why neutrality isn't the main objective?
@@CausticLemons7 I understand his lack of neutrality. I don't understand his extreme self righteousness. That's the problem. Not that he isn't neutral, but that he comes of like a self-righteous prig!
@@shannonbrown5913 The so called western World that likes to police and bully the world... America, Europe, Canada, Australia all happen to be of European blood so all of this maintaining Western World economical intrests... Is just a severe case of white man's rascism ;-)
A very candid and honest discussion. The west should know that Africa is not the dark continent they were told. We are capable of discerning and make informed conclusions
why is africa so broken
@@byroncoetzee3173 who told you that ?
This is a very good interview.
A good interview to expose how hypocracy the west and their juornalists are. 😂
@@walhdamaskus2408 How?
@@bramposthumus9300 , how much bbc had paid u to ask how?
Love to Africa and its many beautiful people from Iran.
This is the best interview I’ve watched on an African statesman. So profound, enlightened, simple analysis and heartwarming. True wisdom
Ibrahim Mo is honest and brave. Yes, it's enough with double standards.
Both parties did great. We Africans have a lot to do and no one will respect us unless we start respecting ourselves and voting/supporting leaders of character and competence.
"Is not condemning Moscow's war payback?" If it is, its the weakest payback in the history of vengeance.
Precisely, his comment about pay back for Europe colonial past is below the belt. Europe horrific colonialism in Africa is unforgettable. Its ripple and remnant effects on the People they colonized is still evident today.
@@kassimsaeed789 Absolutely, what Europe has done to Africa is so many levels above "not condemning a war". Besides, Ukraine along with most of Europe had nothing to do with colonialism, African slavery and the exploitation resources, its like 7 countries in Europe who was involved.
So not only would you take vengeance on the grandchildren of the people committing the crimes in Africa, you would exact vengeance on a country who's only crime is getting help from countries that did bad stuff to Africans 1-2 centuries ago.
@@1112viggo To be honest, Africans are just finding a reason to support Russia without saying they support Russia. Africans were helped by Soviets in the fight for its liberation and this is the only way Africans are returning the favour.
Pay back? The violence has nothing to do with Africans. It's white on white violence - occasioned by senile old man that can't move past their prejudices. You don't need Africa to end this, those responsible must sit down and talk. If they do not, they can't guarantee how it ends.
It's not pay back, it is calling the hypocrites to attention.
After Britain has delivered long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine.
😂U$A : “These are sovereign decisions. Every country gets to make these decisions for themselves and should be allowed to speak to those decisions,” Kirby said during a press briefing.
Don’t forget the weapons with depleted uranium, to make sure their babies will born with several heads and solders will diе ahead of the scheduled
United States of Doublestand America😆
THANK YOU BROTHER MO ❤️❤️💯❤️ TRUTH IS A HEALING MEDICINE
Very honest man. We need more of such men.
Africa has its own problems to fix, instead of worrying about a war, in some god-forsaken part of Europe.
Exactly they've been slaughtering eachother on the European plains for millenia no wonder its some of the most fertile soil in the world
Right On!
Agree just like we got problems and should tell african union to deal with africa
Yeah that god forsaken place where grains and cereals come from, all to feed your skinny starving masses.
@@nenasiek see now you get it
Its always fascinating the posture of western journalists, whenever a pushback question on the behaviour of the west comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty
Its always fascinating the posture of African journalists, whenever a push-back question on the behavior of the Africa comes, all of a sudden they are not as critical, any flimsy justification is just thrust forth. No real self critical honesty, all is white men fault
No different than a lot of the pushback against the west really. They talk about bad actions taken by the west, but once it's about them they aren't as critical, and simply use the west's hypocrisy as the flimsy justification.
Democracy, maybe?
DAD MO IBRAHIM thanks you so very much , tell those hypocrite practices what you preach and stopped passing injustices. Justice before peace to all.
Mo Ibrahim.... a Good Man.
When it's in Ukraine then it's innocent people dieing. When it comes to Africans then it's understandable even when it's the west providing arms and supporting the chaos. In Haiti,its the US providing weapons and supporting the gangs,but no one is saying innocent people are dieing in Haiti.
Africans are not people … people unite !
US supporting gangs LOOOOL every bad thing ever - US does it LMFAO
hey Haiti is free no white men on the island what is the problem why can't you run a normal functioning country ???
We are supporting the corrupt Haitian government, that we have 'installed'.
I think Africa supposed to go to help Russia openly.. because Russia helped very much Africa, during liberation of Africa
Well even thought Russia did help!!It did help the all Africa continent but certain countries yes!!! I'm all for Rússia to your info..
Ps:África is a continent not a country,just wat it to clarify that!!🫶🏽
18:49 Excellent points on why Africa and the Global South have been guarded in their response to Ukraine and resistant to support one side or the other. Tim just fails to see any hypocrisy in western actions as a reasons for not supporting Ukraine. Get a clue and let go of some of that self-righteousness, Tim.
Please explain this to me because it sounded like he says that African countries were hesitant to condemn russian aggression on Ukraine because America attacked Iraq. I'm Eastern European, I live with russia around the corner and I know history of my nation that had to protect itself against russia for centuries. Why Africans are talking about USA when russia is killing us, Eastern Europeans? Why we have to pay with lives for wrongdoing of USA? Why so many people act and talk as if USA is the most important country in the world and they will pretend that no big deal is happening in spite of USA?
Frankly it's really painful to watch Africans and Indians normal people cheering up russian murders and rapes and kidnaping of children.
I always love Mo. So glad he's doing this for all Sudanese.
Yet he doesn't blame India for trading in arms with Russia, because they need India to be their proxy against China,while they stay safe in America.
Sudan and Africa were the topics, India will have to wait for their turn in the hot seat.
It's a game
Well said
India won't be anybody's proxy in a war. India knows who's it's trusted partners are and what's in their best interest. India keeps the US and the west at an arms length , they're well aware of their imperialistic and hegemonic agendas.
Europe should stay out and stop dragging affica onto Ukraine war. Africa has enouth issues and doesn't need more piled on. At the same time Europe should stay out of Sudan and leave it to the Arabs & Africans as Europe has a bad history interfering in Africa
Should Europe and US continue providing food aid to prevent a famine which at this point may be unavoidable due to collapse of fertilizer supplies and food exports.
@@MikeRyzhikov YES
@@MikeRyzhikov The system of Africa been dependent on EU should stop
@@MikeRyzhikov NO
@@MikeRyzhikov It was just as recently as 2011 that NATO unilaterally destroyed Libya despite African union opposition to it up to this date a once prosperous Libya has never recovered and it is vastly a failed state, the voices of African did not matter to the collective west then why should Africa now support the west when things are going against their interests..??
Absolutely true and honest answer by Mr Ibrahim. 👍
Europeans always start criminal wars because of money and power and then are very surprised why others don't like them 🤦♂️
Sudan, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and Ukraine...nothing special.....just another day
A great philosophy, educated and entrepreneur person with familiarity western economic behaviours and dominated ideology
Very Smart Person. He spoke for all of us!
selective line of questioning with bias,Mo is a smart leader.we need more Africans like him to answer bias questions not stooges like the Ghana president Nana Addo
US hypocrisy AND European hypocrisy.
What did the EU do when the US bombed Afghanistan and Iraq?
Mo, you are a great son of Africa. May our angels travel with you and enrich your understanding to make African issues known better. Sudan deserves a president like you
it’s hard enough to get europeans to agree to collective security as a principle. let alone people in other continents. it’s just base selfishness.
Mo Ibrahim, A truly great African. In this interview he speaks truth to power without fear or favour as he questions western hypocrisy.
Western media always put Africa as one single unit when it's about something bad but when it's something good they're specific.
African's media does the opposite
I think that recent developments in Tunisia showed that North African Arabs don't want to have anything to do with the tribes that live south of them
There's an African country Western Sahara invaded by its neighbor Morocco in 1975. No effort has ever been made to bring Morocco to account. What is so special about Ukraine. Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere.
Lol. The truth hurts!
Be careful DW, if you start thinking like this you might end up with Julian Assange
US trained officers (CIA) have attempted coups in 5 West African Countries alone:3 times in Burkina Faso, 3 times in Mali, and once each in Guinea, Mauritania, and Gambia.
You talk about a dozen apparent interventions. Have you bothered to count the amount of conflicts in Africa as a total? Stop blaming someone else. Stop being a victim. Start looking at yourself in the mirror and fix your governance for the poorest sake.
@@olsaffa7679 That doesn't change the same it happened
@@olsaffa7679 Sooo we should take responsibility for the CIA interfering with our government???? What kind of gaslighting is this
@Ugwuanyi Collins I'm not saying it didn't (nor can you say it did because you and I can only say what we've been told). You're making my point for me... You're getting stuck on something where you can blame someone else. Stop that and start doing something to get rid of the rotten leadership most of Africa saddled itself with.
@@olsaffa7679 the same is true for south america, the west has bullied and humiliated them for far too long
The reporter tried his best to portray Africa in bad faith but Mo silenced him.
1. Africa incompetence in dealing with Sudan issue. How is the West dealing with Ukraine? They are fueling it.
2. Africa being neutral on Ukraine Russia war. Well how does taking sides solve the problem?
3. South Africa weapons to Russia. Well, Israel has enjoyed financial, political, Media, technological and Military support in crashing Palestine. The US had given more money to Ukraine this year so far then it has supported Africa the whole of last year.
When China comes to help wake up Africa they attack them as debt trap colonialists. What has the donation money from World Bank, the US or any Western nation helped Africa compared to China?
The reporter is a true representation of the Western hypocrisy.
Mo Ibrahim you're a gem ! :) in the same vein .... i must confess im ashamed as european :(
Bravo Sir Mo Ibrahim, talking frienkly is what we are ready to stand for it.
I like this interview a lot. Both gentlemen are mature and makes sense when questioning and answering. A good host. A good guest. Was just like refreshing to listen to even when the topics are heavy. ❤
If you refuse to stand up for what is fair and just because of what the US has done, then you are being held hostage by the US. You should have the strength to stand up for Ukraine regardless of the USA *or* Russia because it is the fair and just thing for anyone to do.
The white man is a racist little man
Indeed.
I think its not the hipocrisy alone. They started one proxy war too much, killed one president too many and finally through BRICS and dedollarisation many finally see a way out of the US debt trap the US caught them in for almost 40 years and kept them bitterly poor, despite their vast recources. Russia helped them in their wars of independence, in their fight against the Apartheid regime in S.A. and just recently released their debts. China and Russia trade with Africa but they do not force their values on them nor do they treat them like children or force austerity policies on them to squeeze even more profit from Africa to wall street. Ghadafi, who is an African heroe in many countries would be proud.
Bravo Mo,
Between you, President Ruto, and PLO Lumumba , a path is beginning to emerge of the leaders that really care about Africa.
America and Europe are so delusional in thinking that the rest of the world actually regard them valuable. I hope they wake up, behave and accept their lane. Those with real resources just don't care anymore about a barking dog.
Entirely misses the point. Africa is exactly what multinational corporations want it to be: extremely profitable, and deprived of any chance of being an economic threat to the West. Exactly what the CIA has engineered it to be for the past 50-70 years, a mere continuation of the formal imperialism that preceded it; but more pervasive and endemic and systemic than that, because the average Westerner and the average capitalist alike will both willfully ignore American jingoism and pretend that Africa is what it is solely as a consequence of it's own ineptitude, rather than capitalist neocolonialism.
haha had no idea that the CIA is so powerful, they are still calling the shots in Africa ?
India should be in the same situation after British colonial rule but it managed to form a democracy. Every time we attempt to insert ourselves into Africa, fix past mistakes, it repeatedly backfires. What do you propose former colonial powers do to stabilize the African continent? Repeat a Somalia-like initiative to stop a civil war turned genocide using military force, support local government? We supported and trained special operatives in multiple African countries and it backfired several times.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp Yes it's that powerful
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp it definitely is that powerful. If you we’re underestimating that institution you should give him the respect they deserve.
They have a hand in coup d’etat and other shady stuff that happen on the continent. As much, we blame terrible governance they do sometimes play apart in making sure we never have proper governance. That would not benefit them.
And frankly, the must be people above CIA who are using it as tool too. At the root of the issue, it’s always a group of few individuals.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp How are you not aware of that and you live in this world?
Criticise and hold everyone accountable except the US, izraeel and the West overall!!!
you have to distinguish between what USA are doing and what they are saying. They act according what they think their interest is, and say whatever necessary to justify it. Problem in Africa is the willingness to become violent, to think tribal
Are you ok? You hypocrites need to look in the mirror very often.
You have more EVIL INTENTIONS and you should be ashamed of yourselves. How many people will you continue to murder in this world before you will begin to think as human. Are you not satisfied with what you did in Iraq, Lybia, Syria, Afghanistan, etc
willingness to become violent? Yes, the US military is infamous for violence when it suits them.
@saoham659Very much ethnic. But because they are whites fellow europeans don't see it that way.
Tribalism and racism are two sides of the same coin - PREJUDICE. Africa's tribalism is no different from Western racism.
Mo has common sense and truly honest. Especially when it comes to western hypocrisy. The media should be ashamed for not answering his questions. That's why he so often said: "let's be honest here!" and "Stay in reality!"
Many of us are hypocrites. That's the truth
We are all hypocrites just to a different degrees
The interviewer is jarring … self-righteous, condescending and superiour. Mo Ibrahim is clear and compelling. 🇸🇴
An army is primarily created to protect the people. All the other components are secondarily.
protect them from what?
Thank you Mo Ibrahim.
Mo is a true patriot and may Allah continue to bless him and his positive efforts
14:49 "dont even want to talk to them" - CORRECT. The state does not negotiate with criminals. The world should not negotiate with international criminals.
You know there are specialists in the police of every state who are called negotiators? Their job is to negotiate with criminals
@@KennyNGA "You know there are specialists in the police of every state who are called negotiators":
What an inane comment.
Do they "negotiate" giving victims' property to their murderers and letting them off without punishment???
In case you didn't know, NO THEY DON'T.
Fantastic interview 💪
Another excellent interview by Tim! He's the best. 💙
Tim Sebastion ? He's a poor excuse of a Journalist. Spent years reporting around the world and never once challenged the powerful or the elite in his time there. But still can't figure out why there is so much chaos in a continent strip-mined from all of its resources and owned by foreign nationals, has its boarders drawn by Europeans, and has its economic policies dictated by IMF. He's not a Journalist, he's a press secretary.
He is quite right , it is the hypocrisy. The rules must be the same for every country .
Proud of Mo; and
Shame on the journalist.
It's not payback. It's called blowback.
Well said.
Blowback from what exactly? I don't understand what Ukraine did to deserve the ire of so many Africans, or why supporting Russian imperialism is somehow a response to historical imperialism.
@@CausticLemons7 I can't remember which African politician said this but I think it went like _"You can't rescue an injured dove from a pit of snakes"_
basically it's not that Ukraine is hated, rather those who are backing them the most heavily
@@CausticLemons7 Ukraine is in Europe and traditionally Europeans are only concerned with European affairs. Why do you think the whole world, or more particularly nations in Africa SHOULD be worried about what is going on in Ukraine?
@@shannonbrown5913 because all their grain is in danger of being stuck there.. their aid could be cut.. there could be a global slowdown which would also hurt their industries.. plus if it spirals out of control, then they may have to suck a radioactive cloud like the rest of us and additionally, they're signed up to UN. The west does condemn human rights abuse and wars of aggression in Africa though. It may not militarily intervene in them.. but it does condemn and sanction.
They are always running out of time when they are told the truth about the behaviour of the global north.
“A day without hypocrisy is a day wasted”- US and EU
A day without hypocrisy is a day waste - African with 2 dozen children on a welfare in EU
So why are you so interested in us if we are so bad???
You have a lot of people which means you have a lot of energy. Organize yourselves better, learn to use it, stop blaming us for all your problems. We cannot do everything for you as we have our own problems and people in need. "Support" should mean "support"... Also, it is hard to cooperate with someone who you try to give a hand to and they immediately shout around that you want to hit them.
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp No African says that. It’s Europeans and Americans who see hypocrisy as a fundamental right.
@@eternal_ecstasy_77 Americans and Europeans should stop creating problems for the rest of the world all the while lecturing others.
@@eternal_ecstasy_77 Calm down Slavic-Karen.
The West's problems will never be Africa's problems.
Just like how the West doesn't care for African issues.
You are a very brilliant man Mo
USA: You must against us if you don't support Ukraine
EU: Roger that! Boss!
Japan: Yes! Daddy!
India: We're neutral, just selling Russian oil to EU!
African: None of my business
China: Any problem with you? USA!
Let’s not be hypocrite! Absolutely correct, let’s be more honest about the US
I’m impressed Tim has changed a lot over the years. He listens to his guests and gives them time to finish, and doesn’t interrupt much
what you talking about? he is obviously OLD and has lost his game. you want him to simply throw a few questions here and there? that's a "regular" interview aka pointless. these "leaders" need to be CONFRONTED
@@ace8184 If you don't want to listen you shouldn't be asking questions. Your idea of interrogating can be done in courts, not intervieuws. Because unlike in courts you need people to agree on participating in intervieuws.
@@longbow857 ughhh i said confronted, not interrogated. but interrogated isn't a bad idea either, come to think of it
Mo is doing a fabulous job championing africa to solve its own issues
Mo,tell the man what he dearly wants to hear that there is completely no hope for Africa, then stand up and walk out gleefully 😅😅😅
Good for Mo.
Having alternatives affects power dynamics by increasing the power of the party with the alternatives. This is because the party with the alternatives has more options and is therefore less dependent on the other party. This can lead to the party with the alternatives being able to negotiate from a stronger position and get a better deal.
Having alternatives can be a powerful tool for increasing your power in any situation. If you are aware of the power dynamics at play, you can use your advantage.
Therefore, having alternatives to the west is good for Africa.
well done. thanks. !!
26 minute interview on Africa and the headline is about Ukraine ? why can't Africa has its own voice and identity ? Why the West wants everyone tied to their own agendas ?
Who's agendas should west be trying to tie other nations to? Indians ? Arabs ? Get a grip LOOOOL
Why is this Mo guy insisting that Sudan is somehow West problem and that they should intervene financially and militarily to solve it ????
West speaks about colonialism as if is has stopped. From Physical colonialism we are now under economic colonialism. US Dollar, Euro, Technology and Global corporates are the new colonial tools that Africa cannot fight back without massive capital.
In one word. Corruption.
Everything he said makes so much sense!
The whole interview the western guy tries to belittle opinion the African guy has,
not with facts just mentoring the "right thinking".
Yet kudos to the African guy, today the intelligence has beaten the ignorance!