You know when a plane changes height as it flies over a hill, have you ever seen anyone neutron a plane in this manner and further is it possible to neuton a general power in this manner? (if not can you use the explosive shell to at least damage it? (I assume this is possible)
as far as i know you can't empty air units except a chinook and helix but only when they land to garrison units or go and repair. but this only works with a jarmen kell. you can damage air units tho with nuke cannons if they are not to high of the ground. Fake buildings can actually damage air units.
Fishy - does the neutron shell work on a tunnel scaffold in the following instances: 1 - Tunnel being built for the first time (think this is what your video shows?) 2 - Tunnel is being rebuilt from a hole 3 - Tunnel having started being rebuilt from a hole BUT the hole and worker is then killed leaving just the shell husk?
So no expert player has ever even considered using neutron shells, even though they instantly destroy everything inside a tunnel from long range? That's hilarious. Looks like no one ever tried it despite the fact expert players are supposed to know everything about the game so they can use it to their advantage.
Most experts and pro's do use alot of diffrent strats but they dont use my strats and tactics and crazy gameplay. And using these strategy's more and more makes it sooo easy to think outside the box in most situations.
The problem is that you need a China to use a general promotion to get the nuke cannon AND go enough in the end game that they get a nuke + neutron shells which sadly in a China vs gla rarely if ever goes to late game in a 1v1 (which is why people don't get them) but when the factors are in place yes we've seen pro players using neutron shell's it's just a rare sight to see in 1v1, and most ffa if they are pro rules will ban neutron cause they are to op so that leave you with a small amount of games were they actually are worth the investment :/
@@xxfuryxx7897 If you're going to save a point to use when you're 3 star you already expect the game to go late. Might as well get the nuke cannon. Except maybe if you're inf, then you might want the minigunner veterancy at the start.
@@SoundShunter72 no I guarantee you a crushing majority of China vs gla 1v1's never reach the stage were you get a nuke the only exception is with nuke general cause they want the nuke migs and since they get the nuke cannon already for free no real reason not to get it But other then that spending 5k for the nuke 1 star point and 2.5k/2k for the upgrade and investing all that time you're better of getting 3 overlord 1 ecm and an outpost then the gla gets to be in a real bad position (if you nuke ofc)
when normal people explain tips & tricks it's clear case. But it's fishy Fish's case... might be bug-instruction ;) so I am NOT QUITE SUUUURE 🙃 He is also called bug-fish for a reason ^^ 🙂
Think of it this way... if Neutron Shells didn't destroy the vehicles in the tunnel, you would have ungarrisoned, neutral vehicles trapped inside the tunnel network. You wouldn't be able to pop them from the tunnel, because they technically wouldn't be your vehicles anymore. Your tunnels would be perma-useless because neutral vehicles would be trapped inside the tunnel making your own vehicles unable to use the tunnel. Destroying the vehicles inside tunnels hit with Neutron Shells is the safest/cleanest way to execute the "kill garrison" effect imposed by the Neutron Shells.
@@GDOutOfContextGD I understand that. But maybe better to make just No Effect on under tunnel vehicles? Because for Player it is bug that can be used by enemy. Neutron shells are more dangerous than usual Nuclear shell. And that is bug when vehicles destroyed when there are a few tunnels.
@@tonnytn3094 I don't think it is a bug that Neutron Shells kill vehicles inside tunnels that are constructed. I think the bug to address is that Neutron shells kill vehicles inside the tunnel system when a tunnel scaffold is deployed for the purpose of constructing a tunnel. I suppose you could make the argument that if a scaffold for a tunnel network entrance is being created, that the "tunnel" is there too. Honestly, I could probably go either way regarding whether this was a bug or a feature. With that said, Neutron Shells don't "contaminate" the tunnel network perpetually. In other words, Neutron Shells check for units inside the tunnel network and kill them -- only once -- per Neutron Shell. You can use the tunnel network after the Neutron Shell has hit the tunnel with no ill-effects. It may seem like a pain to deal with, but the solution to deal with it is quite simple and GLA don't really have to invest anything. Consider that China needs a General's Point to acquire Nuke Cannons, then $1600 to build one Nuke Cannon, $5000 for Nuclear Missle, and $2500 for Neutron Shells; that's $9100 of initial investment to clear GLA defenses with Neutrons Shells; GLA's counter: don't use tunnel during Neutron Shell bombard. Keep in mind, USA can do something similar but cheaper; General's Point for Stealth Fighter, $1000 for Airfield, $1600 for Stealth Fighter, $1000 for Bunker Busters, $2500 for Aurora Bomber: $6100 total to do the same thing as China, but arguably better because they can still kill tunnels where China has to choose between clearing the tunnel and killing the tunnel using Nuke Cannons w/ Neutron Shells. tl;dr I don't think Neutron Shells killing vehicles inside a completely constructed tunnel is a bug but rather a feature and if the game were to get overhauled I don't think it should be treated as a bug. HOWEVER, clearing a tunnel network by targeting a tunnel scaffold (an incomplete tunnel entrance) is another issue IMO: I see no problem treating this as a bug.
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Wow , never knew it work with palace and bunkers
U forgot the fact, that u can empty your own dozer and gift it to your allie
This was only to show thar you cant empty buildings.
Otherwise i need a 10minute video and stuff xd
True
How
This is the best video on TH-cam.
You know when a plane changes height as it flies over a hill, have you ever seen anyone neutron a plane in this manner and further is it possible to neuton a general power in this manner? (if not can you use the explosive shell to at least damage it? (I assume this is possible)
as far as i know you can't empty air units except a chinook and helix but only when they land to garrison units or go and repair. but this only works with a jarmen kell. you can damage air units tho with nuke cannons if they are not to high of the ground. Fake buildings can actually damage air units.
@@DrGoldFish planes in airports are immune? It's weird. They can use pilots, right?
@@1q34w yep
Will it work on a landed Helix/Chinook/Planes?
@@emmanpika2697 nope. But a jarmenkell can snipe a lix or chinook when om the ground
I think the next one should be about the stealth fighter cuz it's so useful yet underused.
Yeah true i should make 1 about the stealth fighter
Amazing thanks sir!
Fishy - does the neutron shell work on a tunnel scaffold in the following instances:
1 - Tunnel being built for the first time (think this is what your video shows?)
2 - Tunnel is being rebuilt from a hole
3 - Tunnel having started being rebuilt from a hole BUT the hole and worker is then killed leaving just the shell husk?
once there is a tunnel scafhold it can be emptied with nukecannons
What Key to auto attack even it's friendly like that
Many thanks❤
there is a part 8.1 out cause i forgot a building a very intresting building
tightrope effect ;)
Man how do you know all these!
It's very interesting
i know almost all bugs and strats
So no expert player has ever even considered using neutron shells, even though they instantly destroy everything inside a tunnel from long range? That's hilarious. Looks like no one ever tried it despite the fact expert players are supposed to know everything about the game so they can use it to their advantage.
Most experts and pro's do use alot of diffrent strats but they dont use my strats and tactics and crazy gameplay.
And using these strategy's more and more makes it sooo easy to think outside the box in most situations.
@@DrGoldFish i don't know you, and i don't play Generals, but i already like you due to unusual approach to game (:
High five for the mind brother! :)
The problem is that you need a China to use a general promotion to get the nuke cannon AND go enough in the end game that they get a nuke + neutron shells which sadly in a China vs gla rarely if ever goes to late game in a 1v1 (which is why people don't get them) but when the factors are in place yes we've seen pro players using neutron shell's it's just a rare sight to see in 1v1, and most ffa if they are pro rules will ban neutron cause they are to op so that leave you with a small amount of games were they actually are worth the investment :/
@@xxfuryxx7897 If you're going to save a point to use when you're 3 star you already expect the game to go late. Might as well get the nuke cannon. Except maybe if you're inf, then you might want the minigunner veterancy at the start.
@@SoundShunter72 no I guarantee you a crushing majority of China vs gla 1v1's never reach the stage were you get a nuke the only exception is with nuke general cause they want the nuke migs and since they get the nuke cannon already for free no real reason not to get it
But other then that spending 5k for the nuke 1 star point and 2.5k/2k for the upgrade and investing all that time you're better of getting 3 overlord 1 ecm and an outpost then the gla gets to be in a real bad position (if you nuke ofc)
when normal people explain tips & tricks it's clear case. But it's fishy Fish's case... might be bug-instruction ;) so I am NOT QUITE SUUUURE 🙃 He is also called bug-fish for a reason ^^ 🙂
Its sometimes difficult to what series it belongs too. Bugs or tips
Lol. Its a bug with tunnel. Why vehicles die? Neutron shells against infantry pilots only.
Think of it this way... if Neutron Shells didn't destroy the vehicles in the tunnel, you would have ungarrisoned, neutral vehicles trapped inside the tunnel network. You wouldn't be able to pop them from the tunnel, because they technically wouldn't be your vehicles anymore. Your tunnels would be perma-useless because neutral vehicles would be trapped inside the tunnel making your own vehicles unable to use the tunnel. Destroying the vehicles inside tunnels hit with Neutron Shells is the safest/cleanest way to execute the "kill garrison" effect imposed by the Neutron Shells.
exacly what he said
@@GDOutOfContextGD I understand that. But maybe better to make just No Effect on under tunnel vehicles? Because for Player it is bug that can be used by enemy. Neutron shells are more dangerous than usual Nuclear shell. And that is bug when vehicles destroyed when there are a few tunnels.
@@tonnytn3094 I don't think it is a bug that Neutron Shells kill vehicles inside tunnels that are constructed. I think the bug to address is that Neutron shells kill vehicles inside the tunnel system when a tunnel scaffold is deployed for the purpose of constructing a tunnel. I suppose you could make the argument that if a scaffold for a tunnel network entrance is being created, that the "tunnel" is there too. Honestly, I could probably go either way regarding whether this was a bug or a feature. With that said, Neutron Shells don't "contaminate" the tunnel network perpetually. In other words, Neutron Shells check for units inside the tunnel network and kill them -- only once -- per Neutron Shell. You can use the tunnel network after the Neutron Shell has hit the tunnel with no ill-effects. It may seem like a pain to deal with, but the solution to deal with it is quite simple and GLA don't really have to invest anything. Consider that China needs a General's Point to acquire Nuke Cannons, then $1600 to build one Nuke Cannon, $5000 for Nuclear Missle, and $2500 for Neutron Shells; that's $9100 of initial investment to clear GLA defenses with Neutrons Shells; GLA's counter: don't use tunnel during Neutron Shell bombard.
Keep in mind, USA can do something similar but cheaper; General's Point for Stealth Fighter, $1000 for Airfield, $1600 for Stealth Fighter, $1000 for Bunker Busters, $2500 for Aurora Bomber: $6100 total to do the same thing as China, but arguably better because they can still kill tunnels where China has to choose between clearing the tunnel and killing the tunnel using Nuke Cannons w/ Neutron Shells.
tl;dr
I don't think Neutron Shells killing vehicles inside a completely constructed tunnel is a bug but rather a feature and if the game were to get overhauled I don't think it should be treated as a bug. HOWEVER, clearing a tunnel network by targeting a tunnel scaffold (an incomplete tunnel entrance) is another issue IMO: I see no problem treating this as a bug.