HMS King George V (1911) - Guide 411
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- The WW1-era King George V class, battleships of the British Royal Navy, are today's subject.
Read more about the ships here:
www.amazon.co....
www.amazon.co....
www.amazon.co....
www.amazon.co....
Naval History books, use code 'DRACH' for 25% off - www.usni.org/p...
Free naval photos and more - www.drachinifel.co.uk
Want to support the channel? - / drachinifel
Want a shirt/mug/hoodie - shop.spreadshi...
Want a poster? - www.etsy.com/u...
Want to talk about ships? / discord
'Legionnaire' by Scott Buckley - released under CC-BY 4.0. www.scottbuckley.com.au
Pinned post for Q&A :)
Sir,
Engineering question...
Could you please explain how the power plants of escorts evolved from the use of high pressure boilers and steam plants of WWII to the CODAG and COGAG systems which became popular postwar? Any noteworthy examples along the way?
Assuming that Turkey joins WWII earlier, what, if anything, could Goeben have done in the Mediterranean theatre?
had the other navies of the world caught on to the change to 13.5 inch guns, did the Royal Navy have other, more ambitious, designs for the KGV class?
dAY 97 please could you dry dock on what if the Bismarck broke into the Atlantic
What did the various navies use as explosive filling for their shells in world war 1 and 2?
Winston Churchill on the battleship race: “The Admiralty had demanded six ships; the economists offered four; and we finally compromised on eight.”
I'm really a tank and aircraft person but I find Drachs videos compulsive watching. I think it's his voice and presentation style, his humour and the detail of the information given in his videos. Anyway tanks were once called land ships!
Ah yes, a good Drachism is what all of us military history enthusiasts can get behind
ditto
I'm a land warfare guy with an interest in tanks and cavalry warfare, but I enjoy Drachs videos as well as Dr Clarke's videos.
Ironically enough, given his subject matter, Drach's dry humor is a big selling point, yeah
@@eddierudolph8702 Dr Clarke is is another amazing military history channel my favourite video of his was the Austro Hungarian battleship one
An Orion with the kinks ironed out. Good looking ships.
So an Orion is a kinky KGV?
@@josepetersen7112 only at the weekends and if the weather allowed allegedly!
Oi, I like my kinks....
@@josepetersen7112 Puts a whole new spin on the idea of being "sent to the breakers' yard", doesn't it?
🤔🤨🤣
I definitely like the style of the bridge over the Orions
Moving the foremast forward of the funnels so the crew manning it wouldn't have to breathe smoke? Truly an innovation. 😁
Yes but how will they smoke the fishes now 😂
@@khaelamensha3624 Good point. I hope they moved it during a refit.
They did not take that bit of design into future ones, unfortuntateley
WW2 KGVs to Centurion: wait a minute...who are you?
In early August,1954,on the very first day of my apprenticeship,to be a Marine Electrician,I stood on the for deck,and stared down the barrels of HMS KING GEORGE V ! She was in the Gladstone Dry Dock,Liverpool,being readied for her final voyage,to the Ship Breakers,on the Clyde. I’m in my 86year now, but the exhilaration I felt that day,is as just as vivid,but tinged a just a little,with sadness because she’s gone,but I was privileged,at least,to have been able to say Bon voyage.
Thank you for putting this out. My late great-uncle James Pengelly served aboard HMS Ajax for most of WW1 as a carpenter and shipwright, including at Jutland, and I still have some of his notebooks with hand-drawn sketches of the structure and services - very sparse compared with what came later!
Thank you for offering me the seat next to you yesterday on BB-62! The sign of a true gentleman.
Thank you, Drachinifel.
They and the Orions have a pugilistic appearance to them that I appreciate in a battleship.
And thus the Patreon Drydock Saturday night trifecta is complete!
Thanks Uncle Drach.
I both love and hate how these ships were considered obsolete in a matter of years. Really shows the leaps and bounds naval technology was making at the time...
On the other side of the channel the French were launching the Danton class as the biggest and meanest Pre-Dreadnoughts when Dreadnought was in service.
Imagine it would have taken them as much time as today: "Alright after 12 years our new ship is ready for his maiden voyage.... to the breakers because it is hopeless beyond obsolete."
It wasn't just with ships. About this time you'd have had infantrymen who had started their careers with muzzle loading rifles and ending it using machineguns. It was a bit like the personal computer revolution of the late 80's and 90's where you'd be buying a computer that was already obsolete in the time it took to be shipped from the factory to the store.
look at that gorgeous girl. im actually surprised that there was no post on this ship yet. well, another fantastic production by the indefatigable and Drachinifel, defender of the high lore of the seas
Beautiful ship !
Sorry, I can’t love the snout on these. I need a North Atlantic or IJN bow flare to get my jollies
Thanks!
It is funny that in some videos you can’t be sure before the end if a ship with a familiar name served long (both wars) or if it was replaced before WWII
Did anyone else's ears perk up when Drach said there might be bits of KGV in the sand in France?
Re: Audacious, it always surprises me that with a warship being (supposedly) subdivided with watertight bulkeheads that they could be sunk with a single hole in the hull. I would have though that even with a third of the entire hull open to the sea that it would still float. OTOH, look at the pounding that Bismark took.
Audacious was one of the privately built ones, which I wouldn't dare imply means anything, and it's surely a coincidence given the long history of tendering government work to private firms being a swindle.
As to Bismarck? He being difficult to sink was the fault of the British. They approached so close they coyld barely even shoot her vitals. If they'd have stayed at a sensible engagement range she'd had gone down much quicker - remember thaalt Prince of Wales caused significant flooding and permanently slowed Bismarck with just two of her three hits at Denmark Strait.
Always thought these were some of the best looking ships of their time.
definitely. Grant it, not much competition with some of the armored cruisers, predreads, and earlier bbs running around.
@@whispofwords2590 very true, I’d argue that the Iron Dukes look great too, but basically anything French and American is hideous.
Only beaten by Tiger, IMO. Absolutely beautiful.
@@alun7006 oh definitely, but Battlecruisers ire generally prettier than battleships, I mean look at Hood!
@@michaelgarofalo6231 I agree with the french part, and mostly the American part but with the exception of the New Yorks and Clemson.
Four ships, one class, three different fates.
The Hood is only a little older, 5-7 years, but much faster and several times the SHP. Improved technology.
I think you mean a little younger than the KGV's and almost twice the displacement.
HMS Hood developed 144,000 SHP and carried 8x15inch guns.
thank you for your labour of love, Drach
"7 minutes ago"
*an unexpected achievement to be sure... but a welcome one*
I wonder if Audacious hadn’t steamed at 9 knots she might have survived? I’m reminded of HMS Ark Royals loss 25 years later (and to a degree HMS Prince of Wales restarting her turbine and shaft)
Pure conjecture and hindsight of course.
I was going to make a similar comment (esp re Ark Royal). i have read that Audacious sinking was also due to very poor or non-existent damage control - something which seemed to have plagued the RN. My speculation is that if either ship had the crews of USS New Orleans or USS Franklin they would not have sunk.
@@anthonyjackson280 some,but not all. Illustrious took an absolute hammering as did the likes of HMS Kelly . Ark Royals loss was apparently taught as a lesson of what not to do at the RN’s Damage Control School for years after.
In Audacious’s case I believe the damage was in the bottom of the hull across 2 machinery spaces which didn’t help. There were also other desk faults such as shut of valves that couldn’t be located in an emergency due to there positioning and some other material failures. You are spot on that mistakes were made. I believe that some of the deck hatches were not closed leading to further flooding into areas that shouldn’t have been effected.
It’s interesting that Drach mentions a longnitudinal bulkhead failing. I thought they had binned them with the newer dreadnoughts as they encouraged off centre flooding. I didn’t realise they had continued them.
@@MattVF The QE's - and Warspite in particular - had competent damage control helped by being incredibly tough ships.
Behemoth like this is impressive but for me at least more impressive is to see how they build it and what kind of machines were used to make such huge parts.Your video about gun barrel manufacturing was amazing.
Last time I was this early....
Ah, forget it, I'm just going to watch the vid 🤣
When I saw the King George 5 I assumed the KGV of the KGV class of the WWII era. But guns almost as big/small. It always amuses me when Torpeodo tubes are fitted to Battleships and trying to visualise her speeding away, after lauching her torpedos at 20kts.
Entirely an aside, I've been meaning to congratulate you on finding a song that, when played at 1.7x speed (my usual playback speed for TH-cam, though I'll slow it down for more info-dense videos), actually sounds like it's intended to be played at that speed. It's a *lot* more intense at that speed, but most music just becomes audio-soup at that speed and this actually works.
Achievement get: Grand Fleets
You've covered every single dreadnought-and-onwards battleship-or-battlecruiser class of the Royal Navy. Jacky Fisher would be proud!
Thanks drach
Looking at 4:54 of the video, it is amazing that either the top of the foremast got launched out of the forward funnel, or the Royal Navy found a way of lightening these pesky masts by having them levitate. I like the idea of being a crewman in the top of this mast on the way up (Hello Moon), but not so much on the way down.
That poor crewman on Liverpool has to be one of the unluckiest sailors to ever live
Thanks for covering these. I've been asking for the Conqueror to be covered for years. It's one of my favorite WW1 BB classes.
Great presentation thank you 😊
And the collection of guides for Royal Navy battleships is finally complete!
Great series on the UK WW1 ships.
Your vids are ‘must watch’ always!
A lovely looking ship.
Many thanks for the video, as informative and professionally produced as ever. I am now subscribed to the channel. My father served on "HMS Searcher" during WWII. She was an escort carrier built in the US, launched in 1942, and took part in one of the strikes against Tirpitz. I would greatly appreciate a review of this ship's career. Many thanks again.
Many thanks
If Drach ever puts out videos on military aircraft, tanks and Infantry he will be quadruple threat ! 😉
He has a video on the Tank Museum channel.
I love your videos. But I do wish they were longer. I have a video suggestion or just a few questions about the interwar Nelson and Rodney class. if you would be so kind as to answer for me. How did grouping all three turrents forward as opposed to two forward and one aft save weight? Was this done at the expense of protection for the machinery spaces? I read the if Royal Navy had used 15 inch guns and utilizing a modified (increased amour) from Battlecruiser design that the ships could have been capable of 28 knots. Why would 15 inch guns and an inch off the amoured really have allowed such a drastic change in speed? Thank you so much for your time.
Cordially,
Dudley skaggs
Beautiful looking Dreadnoughts. They looked much better before all their decks got cluttered with AA guns. From a purely aesthetic view, the Dreadnoughts and Super-Dreadnoughts of pre-WW1 and early WW1 are hard to beat.
Hmm, the midships turrets do not fit into a complete silhouette, otherwise I agree.
Over the years I have often wondered what could have been done with these impressive looking ships had the Royal Navy settled for four turrets instead of five.A lot of free space and weight could have perhaps been put to better use.
Thank you.
Yikes, losing Audacious after only a couple years in service had to smart. I see that her captain never held a ship command again.
To me, very elegant ships with clean hulls before the Iron Dukes introduced the secondary gun casemates along the hull.
When did the Royal Navy do away with the stern walk? It seems like a holdover from the days of fighting sail.
Good question. The Revenge-class had them, so it might have been _HMS Courageous_ or _HMS Hood._
Likely Hood was the first.
@@Rdeboerit looks like Repulse was possibly the first one built without the stern walk since she beat Courageous into the water by a couple of weeks
Iron Duke to King George V 1911 is basically what the Colorado class was to the Tennessee class battleships.
A ship name so nice they named it twice !
I want to say a huge grateful thank you to Drach for keeping me sane during the final days of the American election. The early voting news is not looking good for Kamala…and therefore democracy itself…but I’ve been able to keep my own head above water (no pun intended) by watching massive numbers of Drachinifel videos, old and new.
Democracy and Kamala don't remotely go hand in hand. She's a power tripping maniac. Imprisoning parents on the back of disabled children being out of school. She'd be even worse than the Biden Crime family ffs!
Trump or Kamala... You guys are doomed either way.
I remember learning about sinking of HMS Audacious on the History channel in shaking my head in disbelief at the poor crew member that was hit by the piece of armor plate as the battleship exploded
I have seen a few good videos of dives on the wreck
Thanks Dachs, helping me get through latest covid.
No such thing .
My favourite music.
Do HMS Electra next
I thought you already did this ship
And before anyone asks yes I know there’s two ship class named King George V
May we have a video on the USS Ogalala release on 7 December 2024?
What was the reasoning fit two anchors on the starboard bow and a single anchor on the port?
Good and pretty ships, just don't ask about Audacious
First time for me, to be the first to comment on a Drachinifel video.
The first time I was this early... is what you have to say.
Sooner or later, Olympic Will have to have its own video...😅
Rammed and sank a u-boat? Sure.
@@johnprenis6059 also resisted collision with Cruiser with ramming bow.
Stupid question time, why don't ships of this size or bigger capsise when a full broad side is fired?
What would be the turn rate of this behemoth?
Did they use Ajax to "holystone" the decks on Ajax? And for that matter was there ever an HMS Comet? Or an HMS Barkeepers Friend?
I know where the door is, I can see myself out thanks.
"We want eight and we won't wait!"
Kind of confusing having 2 Royal navy battleships named after the same monarch, especially when they were both the name ship for their respective class as well.
👍👍
The 4-1-1 on the K G V
2:22 you can see where they put the 3inch 20 cwt AA gun on the quarter deck, something about the layout just bothers me it looks horrendous on such a beautiful ship.😔😔
How unlucky must one be to survive the sinking but then die by getting hit by debris
The Lieutenant killed Ed an officer aboard HMS Liverpool, which was standing off the sinking battleship when it exploded. It was dark by the time the explosion occurred.
So, he didn’t survive the sinking but was there on the Liverpool to assist and observe the sinking Audacious.
An underrated class; one of those that's difficult to get scale models thereof 😐 .
(at least... so far)
Reassuring to know though that - a bit like the SS Great Eastern and HMS Warspite- there's still bits of one in existence today 🤔🙂 .
And Q turret was always wet, right? HMS Erin was smaller, yet Q was a deck higher
Wonder why they mucked about with the 13.5 inch gun instead of going straight for 14 inch?
⚓🐉Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Member 1968-69🐉 🇺🇸⚓
It would have been just too perfect to have the original King George V still around to cosplay as its later replacement.
To think Centurion was during WW2 dressed up as Anson; member of a different King George V class.
I blame Churchill.
Vunderbra vessel? 🇬🇧🙏📚
These ships he shells are op in world of warships lol KGV not bad fire starter too but conqueror has insane fire % chance per shell hehe
@Drachinifel Please how about HMS Canopus? She’s got History! I’ve been asking for Years, way back before you were using your voice!
Faster than a Majestic. Missed Coronel. Fired the first shots of the Battle of the Falklands.
Just a silly question, did any Battleship ever fire their torpedoes in anger?
Several did but HMS Rodney is the only battleship that hit another battleship with a torpedo. The victim was the Bismarck.
Yes; HMS Marlborough 1912 fired one at SMS Kaiser and another at Wiesbaden at the Battle of Jutland.
@@Dave_Sisson Thank You.
@@tidepoolclipper8657 Thank You.
No longer Aiaks.. 😁
The last video of the year before i have to wait an extra hour for uploads. Because British Summer Time ends tomorrow and i live in the tropics where Daylight Savings Time is unnecessary.
The original G-V.
Fabulous.
I bet Audacious wasn't happy when Olympic turned up given her history of hitting or being hit by other ships😂
I'm a dude playing the dude, disguised as another dude!
Huh I thought the King George class was from the 30s
There were 2 different classes of "KGV". One from 1910, the other from the '30s.
here is a model of battleship HMS Audacious..th-cam.com/video/94Ii9mzyW7w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fA0JDic_HF_2e3KN
Wasn't Ajax involved with chasing down Admiral Spee near the Falklands?
There was a cruiser called Ajax that participated in the pursuit of the Admiral Graf Spee in the South Atlantic in 1939 and was part of the squadron (with Achilles and Exeter) that fought her off Montevideo.
@@kemarisite Ah, yes, thank you.
No, that was a Light Cruiser with 6” guns.
N-TO-THE-OPE HMSs INVINCIBLE AND INFLEXIBLE FISHERs BATTLE-CRUISERS
81st, 26 October 2024
Nice to hear you pronouncing Ajax correctly, Drach ;)
👀👍🇮🇪⚓
Penny for your thoughts on HNMZS Manawanui! If you are brave enough Drach x)
Out of scope for Drach's channel.
@AndrewTBP I asked his opinion, I'm sure he has them apart from his channel content. I'd be interested in yours also.
I'm looking into modern Soviet torpedo boats like the Shershen and Turya, and I'm curious about equivalent vessels(specifically torpedo boats)in other navies. Are there similar fast attack boats used by other countries, or are these Soviet designs unique in their approach?
Those ships are a little after Drachinifel's normal range. He tends not to cover anything after ~1950 except for specific ship history videos if the ship survives that long.
@@jacobdill4499 I know, but I don’t know where else to look. And he surely knows more than me so I thought I’d ask anyway
I thought it was the Kaiser that started the arms race?
I'd assumed he was referring to the launch of _HMS Dreadnought_ in 1906, but I could be wrong.
@@Rdeboer yes, there is that I guess.
So a battleship did sink during the D day landings
Still burning coal?
1 min squad
The real cultured people
centurion pretending to be a new KGV
That's funny