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Hello. Thanks so much for the great detailed info. I already have 4 original Google wifi pucks set up but not always getting gigabit speeds I pay for even wired. I saw stats on throughput. Wondering if at least adding a new nest router as the main point pushing signal out to original Google wifi pucks could help and or if there's even further benefits to just replacing all 4 original pucks with two Nest routers for 2400 SQ ft. Lastly if I was to just replace is worth going to a wifi 6 mesh system instead for not much more with higher throughput? Spent countless hours on this so appreciate it.
I've watched so many videos on this and no one has explained how to connect these to my modem so thoroughly. I am really happy that I came across your video. Thank you!
WOW! Finally someone that explains in such detail. There is no possible way anyone wouldn't be able to wire any of the options you went over. GREAT JOB!!!! I look forward to looking at the rest of your Channel.
Thanks for being calm, on point and going into every detail. Finally I found someone who really has a grasp on how to explain the system in all possible options. Its probably the best video on google wifi for people who are invested into tinkering the best solution. Great job mate!
Nothing is more satisfying than having flagrantly specific descriptions for configuring *anything*. Well done... you took all the mystery out of the process and made it so I only had to do things once. thank you!
Bro, that was super detailed. I even like that you mentioned that it's better to center the router in Option 2 to ensure the Points have better connections.
You saved me a huge headache!! I could not figure out what was going on with my internet, now I’m pulling 500 up and down through fios. I live in a 3 story townhome and now have the same speeds in all floors!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
I FINally figured it out , to enter a range you must enter External ( 1-5) Internal (1-5) took my about a month to realize you can enter the dash , finally fixed my port forwarding problem , typically you have 4 boxes when working with port forwarding but apparently google wants you to use the dash ( - ).
I've watched a few videos to try to understand the setup - this one actually covered what I needed. It had never occured to me to use two routers with a cable connection. Exactly what I need. Thanks.
I got a lot of questions on my other video and I didn't really see anyone explaining it in great detail so figured why not? help some people out. Thanks for the feedback! I look at the comments and feedback as well to determine what videos to make.
This is clearly the most informative video about the Nest WiFi system including several different options for increasing the area and speeds. I originally had my Nest router connected to the Verizon Fios Gateway ( modem/router combo) with the FIOS SSID disabled. Now, I completely eliminated the FIOS Gateway and simply have the Nest router connected directly to the Verizon ONT by Ethernet and it works flawlessly (no double NAT). I have two additional Nest routers set up as wireless points but after learning from your video the benefit of using a switch to connect them by Ethernet, I will set it up exactly like you have yours. I am thanking you by giving this video a Like and subscribing. You definitely deserve to be commended for sharing your knowledge and taking the time to answer everyone’s questions.
@@landpet After completing option 3, I now get 363 down/173 up. Your video made this so easy to do and my home WiFi is now faster than the professionally installed WiFi at work. A thousand thank yous sir!
@@landpet Do you use any wireless points with your set up? I’m asking because now that I have set up option 3 with three additional routers wired as points I am wondering what to do with my wireless points? If my router and 3 router/points are providing complete coverage, I can sell the points I no longer need or do you have any suggestions as to any other use for them?
@@whatmeworry2006 I don't use mine either, I just kept it for testing purposes for TH-cam at this point lol. No reason to keep it if you have full coverage which is the same for me as well.
Thanks for this awesome video! I have a quick question regarding my set up and what may or not be possible. Would it be possible to complete the following set up? Modem ---> Google Nest Router --->Netgear 16 point unmanaged switch --->Ethernet cable to a 4 point socket/plate in a separate room ---> Ethernet cable into a 2nd Google Nest Router I’ve seen online that it’s not possible because you aren’t plugging the second Google Nest router directly into the switch (you’re plugging it into a socket which connects to the switch via another cable in the wall. It would be great to get you thoughts and thanks again for the great video tutorial.
No worries. I don’t have mine Setup through a wall socket but I imagine it will work just fine assuming the wall socket is wired correctly. A wall socket is nothing but an extender of an Ethernet cable. I can’t see why it wouldn’t work if a switch works from the other side of a wall socket (which I’ve done in the past).
Love the crystal clear explanations! Quick question, I am rooting for option 3. This would be my setup: Main nest router > unmanaged switch > 4 nest routers (each nest router will be hardwired to each TV’s. Kindly advise if this setup works before I make a purchase. Thank you!
Thanks! Yes that will work if I understand correctly. Modem to nest wifi router to unmanaged switch to 4 nest wifi routers. Assuming you have four TV's then you go from each of those 4 nest wifi routers to each subsequent TV.
@@naeiouce I don't know if you can install that many. Nest wifi recommends using a maximum of 5 devices. So using 9 might not be a good idea. Read more here: support.google.com/wifi/answer/7182840?hl=en
@@landpet, I have 8 points and 1 router and it works fine. 2 in the basement, 1 in the detached shop, 1 in the garage, 1 up stairs, 3 on the main floor and one router. One question I do have is if, as in option 3, one were to connect two routers via ethernet, you wouldn't have to have 2 separate WiFi mesh SSIDs? Are you saying the second router effectively becomes a repeater with the same SSID as the main router or would they conflict with each other? Also, how would you determine which WiFi points would connect to which router? Thanks for the excellent explanation...
@@MegaZiggo Wow, that's a lot of devices. Glad it works out well. Yes with option #3, the 2nd router becomes the point. The main router is the one that's connected to your modem, any other router you connect essentially acts like a point, except with better speeds because of the ethernet connection. All of this is handled automatically by the mesh system. Yes, it's still one SSID and all of them together are still one mesh wifi system.
Thanks for the great video! I have a question...(and sorry for the long message but if you do read all of this then thank you very much!). With option 4 (secondary Nest WiFi router connected wirelessly), can the secondary router connect to another Nest WiFi point or will it only connect to a Nest WiFi router? Basically, I only have one internet connection point in the house where the primary Nest WiFi router is, then a Nest Point in one room, and another Nest Point in another room on the other side of the house where the TV is. My TV annoyingly keeps repeatedly connecting to the primary router all the way over on the other side of the house with a weak signal and slow speeds even though there are two stronger/faster Nest Points closer to the TV. I want to use a secondary Nest router that I'm yet to purchase (wirelessly connected to the mesh network) to connect to the TV with ethernet so the TV is forced to use that connection. I'm worried the distance between the primary and secondary router will be too far so I'm hoping the secondary router can connect to one of the points in between.
No problem! So the secondary nest wifi router will try to connect to the main nest wifi router but if it's too far, then it will try to connect to the nest wifi point, do keep in mind there will be dramatic speed loss at this point because there are multiple wireless "hops" between the nest devices by the time it gets to your TV.
@@landpet Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. Your answer was very helpful. I don’t think there will be too much loss in speed because when the TV does actually connect to the closest point (before switching back to the point furthest away), the speed has only dropped by 2 or 3 mbps (much better than when it connects to the primary router in the other room). I’ll get another router and connect via Ethernet and see how it goes. Thanks again!
Beautiful video. Well explained. I have a question though. Can I attach the modem to a switch, then then run three cables for three of my WIFI MESH routers? If so, all the speeds would be the same for all the routers?
Thanks! Modem needs to go to a router first. Then router goes to a switch. Then run two ethernet cables to your other two routers from the switch. All the speeds will be the same in this case.
@@landpet Thank you. Can I use my old router for the first Modem to router connection and the main Mesh routers connected to the switch in the center of the house? This is because my Switch setup is at a place where we hardly spend time and I want the main routers to be at the main areas of the house. Does a cheap router to Switch compromise the speed. Should I also invest on a good router purely for connecting modem to router to switch?
@@praneethpragallapati4983 I understand what you're saying but it doesn't really work that way. At that point, you're going to be creating two separate networks. You want to stick to one mesh wifi system, you would hook up your nest wifi router to your modem and go from there. I would not use your old router.
Thanks for your great video!! I have one question. I connected 2 nest routers wirely and whenever i go to the google home app and set them up, my second router connected wirelesly(it recognize as a nest point) if i use second nest router wirely, can i just not set up the mesh network from google home app?? Just plug lan cable from main router to second router?? Thats it?? Thanks
No problem. Yes you can just plug in your second nest to your main nest router via Ethernet, there’s nothing you need to change in the Google home app. It will recognize it automatically. The second typically shows up as a point because only the main one acts as the router.
Excellent explanation of Google Nest router configurations. I just purchased a 3 device solution for improved coverage for my house and panicked when Amazon sent me 3 routers, but based on your explanation the router connected to my modem will be the only device acting as a router, and the other two devices will act like points. Thanks!
Great video. Just purchased a two google router configuration. Your configuration explanation has given more options than I originally thought I would be able to do. Thanks
Hi, my modem has a built in router which is connected to a switch for my wired connections. The router wifi is off. To get the best out of my Google mesh set up should I connect the Google router to the modem and then to the switch so all wired connections come from the switch, not the modem/ router?
Brilliant, brilliant video. I actually applauded at least twice while watching. Now, if only other youtubers were this informative. Thanks for your efforts. I'm a new sub so I better go back and watch your other vids now :)
You hit everything I wanted to know especially about using multiple routers. Excellent job my friend! Now I just need access to faster internet than 25mb/s lol
This explained all my questions! Thanks! One more question. I have a 2 story house. Would you place all the google WiFi’s mesh on the second floor or would you place 2 on the second floor and 1 in the first floor?
This was very very helpful! Thank you! You covered literally all my questions, like do I lose speed if don't connect with ethernet cable. Thank you. And I will invest in the unmanaged switch. Excellent! Can't thank you enough!
Thanks for the video - quick Question! I'm trying to add a 2nd "nest router" as a point to extend wifi wirelessly; however, when I add the 2nd router to the Home App, it doesn't give me an option to add it as a point and tried to create a new SSID... Any ideas how I can get my 2nd router to act as a point within the same network? THANK YOU! ☺ (I already factory rest the router)
No problem! It's been a while since I've set this up but it should be the same way where you add it in the Google home app and select the home, it should add it as a point or at least give the option for it. Heres a link: support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9548301?hl=en#zippy=%2Cset-up-your-nest-wifi-pro-router Btw, just as a heads up the nest wifi and nest wifi pro are not compatible with each other. If that's what you're setting up, then they cannot be on the same network.
Great video. For Option 3 what difference would it make if you configured it as follows : Modem -> nest Router -> switch -> another switch -> next wifi router . ie 2nd switch is before the the wifi router. Thanks
Thank you! I looked everywhere in the internet regarding various connection options and couldn't find much other than "how to set up"... your video was exactly what I was looking for, with great simple explanation. Thank you.
Great video. Thank you so much, now i understand what to do. I have 2 questions. 1 From the first point, can i put a switch there, and from that switch put a cable to a second switch. And from the first switch put a cable to the second accespoint? 2 how long are the powercords? I think its a good idea to place the points high on the wall. Sorry for my bad english, but i hope you understand.
Thanks! 1. Not sure I understand fully but here's the order that you can do: Modem > Nest WiFi Router > Switch > To all other Nest WiFi's (this will work fine) You can not do this: Modem > Switch > Nest WiFi Router (this will not work) 2. I can't remember how long they are, I don't have this anymore.
@@landpet Thank you for the reply. I see now my bad explaining. Can i do this. Modem - nest wifi router - Split(switch) - 1. Switch - 3x cable - 2. Nest wifi router Thank you
What a brilliant video, you literally explained everything, missing no little detail and explained it simply so everyone can understand. Thank you for your time! 👊👊👊🙏
How are you getting a Cat5 "a few rooms away"? Are you cutting holes in the walls? Ceilings? Dragging it through the hallway? Also isn't the other non-router devices a downgrade from the Pro version? The generation 1 version of this all had "router ports" and can be used as routers are access points or extenders.
Great video! Very detailed, informative, and understandable. I am finally putting my trusty old AirPort Extreme out to pasture, along with an old-school wi-fi extender I was using in my basement. Ordered the Nest mesh system and it should be delivered in a few days. Thank you so much for showing so many options for setting it up.
my home is a squared 2 storied with a basement and my main router has to be upstairs. What is the best option for a mesh wifi system? 1. 2 nest router {one for upstairs and one for the main floor} but connected through wireless [wired is not an option because upstairs and downstairs are difficult to connect with wire!] 2. 2 next router + 1 wifi point [ for basement] 3. 2 eero pro 6 routers connected wireless { one for upstairs tied to ISP modem and one for the main floor} 4. 1 eero 6 router for upstairs to connect with ISP modem, 1 wifi point for the main floor, and 1 wifi point for basement or if you suggest any other combination? I plan not to go above 400$ for my budget. Please advise.
From those four choice, i would go with number 3. Anytime you go wireless backhaul, I recommend tri-band. Based on your other comments, looks like you made the same choice
This helped me greatly! Thanks so much! What happens if we want 3 routers to extend the network even more? Could we connect the 3rd one wirelessly and be okay?
Got a bunch of nest wifi routers from US to India. And because of the cement concrete walls, beams and columns the wifi drops like crazy between two points. After looking at this video I'm going to get a switch and try the different configurations. Thanks for the video!
@@landpet yes, that's the plan. Fortunately the house was re-done recently so I have CAT 6 cables dropped in each room from a central location..plan is to keep the switch in the central location and connect other nest routers via cables. Just one question, how does the secondary router choose whether to connect to the primary wirelessly or wired? I mean when I setup a new router in the Google home app, it doesn't specify how we have connected the router.
Hello thank u for the video ... question if i buy the modem on the video and the nest wifi will I have wifi ??? I'm wanting to disconnect my services with spectrum price continues to get higher
No problem. Short answer: you will not have internet access without your ISP (in your case Spectrum). I know what you mean with the prices going up, I’m also on Spectrum. You can call them and talk to the retention department, sometimes they lower the prices. Long answer: in today’s society, the word WiFi is often misused, people typically think WiFi means having internet access which in its true technical term is false. Having WiFi means your device has access to the local network (meaning it connects to the mesh WiFi or the router). That means even without internet access, your devices can connect to WiFi and talk to each other. Meaning even if your internet goes down, you can still print something to your network printer because they’re on the same network. Now if that router or mesh network is connected to a modem that is getting service from an Internet Service Provider (ISP), then connecting to WiFi will let you access the internet. Bottom line: this thing only expands your WiFi coverage but you still need an activated modem to get internet access which for most of us costs money monthly.
Great video, thank you! Option 3 is perfect for me. However a question, would I need the switch (Plugged into the Primary Router) for all my devices, or could I use the ports in my ISP Router/Modem instead? Whats the difference?
What great tutorials on March 1 and May 31! Simple and well organized, while watching you make the logical and electronic connections. At 1:15 of the May 31 video, you mentioned a connection from your old router to the GN router. How do you connect them? How do you configure to use same network & SSID? Can you still use the old router's outbound ports? Can this all be enclosed in an existing MoCA network wherever I have coax but no ethernet? My head is exploding!
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback! lol, head exploding, mine too :) Ok, let me try to explain this, feel free to ask questions. Let's start from the beginning: Depending on the size of your place, I personally wouldn't recommend using MoCA (I did use these in the past many years ago when Mesh didn't exist and wireless was terrible) because they are typically rated for slower speeds, unless it's really far away which is typically not the case for most people. As far as old router, I personally wouldn't recommend using any router with the Google Nest Wifi Router. I would just use the Nest Wifi Router and Nest Wifi Points and if you need more ethernet ports, I would just get a cheap unmanaged switch. Can you connect your old router to the Nest Wifi Router? Yes. Do I recommend it? No. If you do connect your old router, you pretty much have to disable the SSID (if it's the same SSID) of your old router, otherwise you will have intermittent issues; translation: your wifi (phone, laptop, etc) device will not really know which device to connect to for an optimal connection. While you can use your old routers ethernet ports, I feel like your complicating your setup and making it harder to troubleshoot issues. Google Nest Wifi can't really optimize the connections in this scenario because Google software is not controlling your old router. The point of a mesh system is to make things simple, so by only using the Google Nest Wifi router and one or more Nest Wifi Points (or Nest Wifi Router(s) acting as points). In this way, Google's software is running on all the Nest Wifi router(s) and point(s), it determines where your device is and makes the necessary switch to ensure you have the "best" possible wifi connection. It's not perfect but it's pretty good. In summary, Googles Mesh System (or any mesh system) is designed to simplify your network by removing older parts and starting with a clean slate. All you need is your ISP modem, the Google mesh system and if you need more ethernet ports, just get one or more unmanaged switch(es). Googles mesh system is really good, I have tested Google Duo and FaceTime while walking through my place for it force switch to another Nest Wifi Router (acting as a point). The live video call didn't get cut and nothing lagged at all, the switch was seamless. Does this make sense?
@@landpet Great advice - you are worth hundred$ per hour. I'll go with two Google Nest Routers, and I'll squirm through the dusty attic to get them CAT-6 connected. Hope to be watching 4K HDR and listening to ATMOS soon. Thanks again.
Thanks! Dusty attic is not fun, but once you get that thing wired. Your network will be solid! That's the setup I'm running, two nest wifi routers with two switches, very happy with it! Should handle 4K HDR with ATMOS just fine. ATMOS must sound amazing!
Thanks for the content! I have 5 points (3 older google nest + 2 2nd gen) and one google router. WiFi works fine throughout house. I do have Ethernet cables I could connect. Can I do modem>google router>unmanaged switch and connect 2-3 Ethernet cables into switch? Or do I need another google router? Would WiFi get faster bc network isn’t as bogged down? Thank you!
Wonderful video. I have a 1400 sq ft ranch home and crappy wi-fi from an old router that is 15 years old or more. The house is actual rooms with some walls separating dining room and living room, and the hallway down to bedrooms and not open floor plan like all the new homes are now. Do you think it would be best to put modem in central location and connect 1 google nest router there, then run a long ethernet cable from the router to my laptop in the dining room/office space? I use more wired connection than ethernet but do use wi-fi here and there and to stream some. Thank you
Thanks! I'm obviously late to this response but better late than never :) Yes centrally located is always preferred however if you're looking for performance/price, I would check out the TP-Link Deco XE75. They actually have fairly good performance on wireless backhaul. You can still connect via ethernet to the secondary node even if the secondary node is wirelessly connected to the main router.
Great video but I still have a question: I have a cable router instead of a modem. What do you mean ”you will have to disable that router” ? Do I have to change the configuration to bridged ?
If you have a modem/router combo, then yes you would need to set that to bridge mode to essentially disable the router portion of it so the nest WiFi can become the main router.
Thanks for the most clear and concise explanation ever. I have one question that I cannot find the answer to on the internet. Does the password you set have to be the same as your existing wifi password given by your broadband supplier, or can you invent a new one? As its the same network I wondered if this was important or not.
No problem. You can set a new WiFi name and/or a new password. The choice is yours. However, when you change the WiFi name (SSID) or password, you do need to update all your WiFi devices to connect to this new router. Using the same WiFi name and password (both case sensitive), your devices will automatically connect to the new router.
I just set up my Google Wi-Fi today and the two questions I had turned out to be legitimate. 1. You need internet mobile carrier service during the installation. It wouldn't work until I was on a carrier network. 2. I had a new access point for internet wifi so all my devices had to be reconnected to this . Took 30 minutes after failing 2 times switch to a carrier service network then wala n my speeds are now easily 5 times faster amazing
Great video! I have an old google Wifi mesh network, but for some reason (maybe interference from neighbors’ Wifi?) my outdoor ring security cameras have started to disconnect from wifi due to poor RSSI strength. I just ordered a nest router 2 pack on Amazon, but after watching your video, I’m disappointed to hear that the 2nd router, if wirelessly connected to the main router, isn’t any faster than a point. That said, will it broadcast a more powerful signal than a point, since it has twice the antennas? I’m banking on that, to better reach my ring cameras. Thanks!
In theory, it should broad ast a stronger signal but don't expect faster speeds however it sounds like your issue is with the signal strength. One thing that's important to note, security cameras in general are using outdated wifi standards, otherwise it would connect just fine typically. As a result, mesh systems resolve many of those issues because they boost the signal throughout
Yes it matters. From the main nest router you go from the port with arrows to the port with the globe on the secondary nest router (acting as a point), repeat this pattern for anymore nest routers.
You definitely get a 5 + 1 stars from me. This is so thorough and gives so many different scenarios and options for me. I just got 2 pack Nest routers. I will try to connect the primary one to the 2nd one with an ethernet cable as suggested by you. I want to try putting the primary router in the middle of the house, which will be 30 feet from the modem so hopefully this is not too far from it. I do have a back unit that I want to connect wifi connection to the router. I only have a 1250 sqft for the main house and back unit is only about 15' away from the main residence so hopefully a wifi connection will provide enough strength and speed for the back unit. Your video didn't really mention the distance by feet so I couldn't figure out if the connections will be okay within a certain perimeter... What do you think? Thank you very much for the video! Love to hear from you.
Thanks! Option #3 is the best possible option and yes it's ok to put the router 30 feet from the modem because it's connected through ethernet. Obviously the farther you go the weaker the signal will be but 15' away seems fine, there will be some loss from the walls but it should be ok. If all else fails, you can get another Nest Wifi Point or Router and just connect to the other router via wireless.
Awesome video. With option 4 when you mentioned still being able to connect devices wired to the second router that is connected wirelessly to the main router. Is it safe to say that the speeds would be faster that way compared to just connecting to it wirelessly?
yeah dude this was a very good video! I appreciate the clarity because other videos haven't discussed the configurations like you. Thanks!. I Like option #3 and will be implementing this because I have some dead spots that I'm struggling with. Thanks again and YES I've subscribed :)
Hey! How are u doing? I watched the entire video and it's super helpful but I still have a doubt about what to do in my particular situation. I live in a 6000sqft plot of land. In that plot I have two houses or homes. In house number 1, I have the incoming internet connection cable, the Google Nest Router and One Wifi Point. In house number 2 I have one Google WiFi Point. The internet connection all over the place is decent. My problem is the following: In the Google home App I can't take the Google point in house number two, I must have it all under the same roof. So how can I keep them separately? Someone suggested to buy another Google WiFi for home 2 and link it to the first one(wireless) What do u think? Any thoughts? Thanks!!!
You can do that. But what are you trying to accomplish? You mentioned that you have internet in your second home via the Wifi point. Are you trying to create 2 separate networks? Or do you want one SSID for both homes?
@@landpet I wanto to be able to set up the devices the correct way in the Google Home App. Otherwise I have to add members of house 2 to house 1 giving them access to all my devices. Also, I can set up in house 2 the personalized answers by Google. I don't mind if it's the same internet connection or not
@@landpet the reason for doing that is that I want to get coverage, but I thought I was going to be able to move the point to house 2 in the Google Home App and that's not possible. The main goal is to give people who live in house 1 control over those devices and people who live in house 2 control over house 2 devices.
My house has Cat5 wired throughout. But phones, iPads, and streaming are wifi only. My current setup I use the LAN to use a second router to extend , and doesn’t work as well as I want and I have 2 networks we toggle between when one sucks. We have more devices now and looking to get this with Black Friday 2020 sales. Thanks for the explanation. I think I will get the two router setup, and hook one from the modem to the switch and the second from a room LAN. Like I am doing now but with better signal and much less hassle. We also have caregivers in the house and having a guest wifi will be great. Thanks for the explanation!
No problem! Cat5 doesn't support gigabit unless you're referring to Cat5e. The nest wifi router is a solid router but there are better ones out there like the newly released eero Pro 6 or the Netgear Orbi RBK752. By better I mean better over wifi, over ethernet there's no difference between these two and the Nest WiFi but again Nest WiFi is solid with really good performance. I've used it for a year without a single issue, so great buy.
Hey this is such an amazing video, helped me a lot. I just have 1 question hoping you can help. I know have 3 nest wifi routers, 2 points, and a switch. My connection is as follows: Modem to Main Router Main router to a switch Switch to a panel Panel to 2 other routers When setting the 2 routers up, 1 is working perfectly fine, while the second one isn't transmitting any wireless but ia connected as per the google home app, any idea why? I hope i explained my setup well...
Thanks! That sounds like a weird issue, try restarting the whole network. I forget for the google home app if you can disable that or not, I would look there if the restart doesn’t fix it. The third thing I would try is a factory reset which will erase everything and start from scratch, not sure if you want to do this or not. It’s possible that it’s defective as well if nothing else worked.
Your video is basicly one of the only ones, showing that you can connect hardware (bridge, streaming devices ect) to the secondary router, when also using this as a wifi point. When using the ethernet out to a device, (on the router-point) will the wireless part still work ?
Brilliant video, I have option three but second router is connected to a spare way in my modem…. It runs to a gym at the bottom of my garden, on a separate ssid,but I’m assuming I would be better off going through the first nest router and connecting to my original network then my Wi-Fi in my phone would just pick up the same network?
I noticed that you have a link for a 16 port switch. Do you recommend a smaller one? I only need one additional port. I noticed that if I click on the ones with 8, it is about the same price as the 16 ... plus it has too many ports anyway. Thanks 😊.
It’s six months later and my Nest WiFi setup as per your video is still working great. Strong & fast signals everywhere. On another matter, can you offer any advice to set up a smart temperature sensor to control a box fan connected to a smart outlet switch using Apple HomeKit. I have smart outlets switches and they are very handy. Is there a particular temperature sensor you would recommend or suggest? Thanks in advance.
Thanks to this awesome video I am still enjoying fast and reliable wi-fi two years after following your advice. What are thoughts about upgrading this setup to the new Nest Wifi Pro?
Well, I'm definitely late to this question. New Nest WiFi Pro is better than the Nest WiFi but the upgrade really depends on you. If you're using it in wired backhaul, there's not going to be a huge difference unless you have some wifi 6e devices. If you're running it in wireless backhaul, there should be some improvements over the original nest wifi.
great explanation of this. however, you went to in depth with the detail of the speed, you almost gave me the impression that anything more than one point would be extremley low speeds. i know that's not what you meant as i've seen many videos with people with great to good speeds on the 3 google wifi mesh or this nest. i just got a new modem and router from spectrum and our wifi is terrible now. even though i'm in a 2,700 qr ft home, our signal drops after 10 ft of leaving the modem. we can barely watch netflix upstairs but the kids can't play online anymore because the signal is so bad. i hope this will fix the issue. i'm also gonna exchange their router that they gave me. although, if i'm getting this product i shouldn't need spectrums router. do you recommend the google wifi mesh? i'm gonna buy that one since most reviews i've seen are positive. i was wondering if they a 6g mesh router or would i be fine using the current model that uses 2g and 5g?
Great video! In option #4 (2 Nest routers in wireless mesh / without wireless backhaul), can you use both of the ethernet ports on the 2nd router to connect devices, or the just one port with the arrows? I'm wondering what happens to the port with the globe in this setup.
@@landpet Interesting. I think on my old Google Wifi, both of the ports would would work to wire up a computer or printer, etc. It's unfortunate that they messed with that on the Nest Wifi... removing them entirely if you go with the access points instead of the router, and dedicating one to only working to receive internet.
Thank you Soo much for sharing your Knowledge about this system and the in’s and out’s of its abilities! Definitely deserve more than a 👍🏽 and a Sub for your amazing content! I hope TH-cam compensates you for your efforts on Educating people on this topic!🙏🏽! Thanks again Brother!
Is it possible to put router downstairs and wifi point on first floor? Or is distance to far? I read somewhere max distance is two rooms? So its one wifi network combined 2.4 and 5 Ghz. Will this give problems with smarthome devices like 2.4 ghz doorbell or 2.4 ghz camera to connect? Thx great video
It is possible but try to put the point directly above or closer to it. Every home is different but it should work but you will lose speeds in the point cause it’s using wireless backhaul. The cameras should connect to the 2.4GHz
Awesome video. Quick question in regards to option 4, two Wi-Fi router’s wirelessly connected, is it better to connect my ps5 with Ethernet to the secondary router or just run my ps5 on without the cable? I can’t connect the two routers with a cable because they’re far apart. Also, which port would the ps5 Ethernet cable go to on the secondary router? Appreciate the help!
Thank you for this vid. I am about to move into a new house and want to wire most the devices. This really helps. I was trying to find a way to wire because the study in the new home is on the side of the house where I want to keep all the wired NAS, Printers, Hue hub, smart thing hub, etc in but would want to wire one or two of the google WiFi points. Since there are 3 levels, and we all know basements can be tricky when it comes to wireless mesh. I want to confirm if I connect the 2nd/3rd router to the switch that is connect to the main google router it is still part of the same network? The reason i got the switch was because google doesn't see the hubs unless i connect the switch to the google router. I believe its because they need same ISP. Iv read that connecting multiple google router can mess up your system.
Yes, if they are connected to the switch that is connected to the main router, then it will be the same network. I use option #3 and I go from my modem to 1st router to 1st switch to 2nd router to 2nd switch. Both switches have other stuff connected as well. All one network (the same network as the 1st router).
Super helpful video - quick question: Just say I buy an extra Nest Router and pop that in a different room - is it possible to have that extra Nest Router as Wifi access point but also use the ethernet point to connect say a NAS storage?
Thanks! To answer your question: Yes, if you buy an extra Nest Router, once you add it to your existing Nest Router, the extra Nest Router will act as a Nest Point hence giving WiFi access to devices. It will also let you use one of the two ethernet ports (the one with the arrows, not the globe) to connect any device, so yes you can connect your NAS to that ethernet port and your NAS will show up on the network. If you want more ethernet ports, feel free to connect a switch to that port instead and connect your NAS and any other device to the switch.
Same thing happened to me actually, I contacted support several times and then decided to make videos about this. One thing led to another and here I am reviewing mesh wifi's now in addition to the other tech stuff.
Thanks! This Nest Wifi Router is amazing, especially if you connect it through ethernet (option #3). It's been seamless since I got it, automatic updates, everything is automatic and it works very well.
3 routers works the same way just gives you a wider area for wifi coverage. If you connect them through ethernet, then you will have the best possible wifi speeds (connected the same way as you go from router 1 to router 2, you just go from router 2 to router 3, you can go through a switch as well). Or you can go with option #4 and connect them wirelessly just like you would with the nest wifi point.
Subscribed. Thanks man, great explanations. Only question I have is, does the best router still connect to the Google cloud in this scenario? Allowing your data to be accessed?
Thanks! Yes if you enable it assuming we’re talking about the same thing. There are a few options to share your data with the cloud, one of them is necessary to find out which devices are connected.
I'm not the most knowledgeable, so may be saying it wrong. Im mostly talking about browsing history, etc, that would be used or sold. Im working on a home hub decision at same time as possibly a home network. Was looking at hubitat due to local control, but still debating on whether to go the wifi, zwave, or zigbee path
@@danny51577 If you don't want browsing history going anywhere, you need something like a vpn; expressvpn is a popular brand among others. As far as home automation, there are lots of smart home devices that don't require a hub, that's what I personally prefer. If you did want a hub, the eero 6 and eero Pro 6 mesh wifi's have a zigbee smart home hub built-in to the router itself.
Connect the nest wifi router (globe port) to the WAN port of your modem. On the Google Home App (or Google Wifi app), follow the instructions to setup a new network. After it's setup, add the Google Wifi Router (again from the Google Home App or the Google Wifi app), you have the option to connect it wirelessly or through an ethernet cable to the main Nest Wifi router. Hope this helps. Here's more info here: support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9548099?hl=en#zippy=%2Cnest-wifi-router-with-or-without-nest-wifi-points%2Ci-want-to-add-google-wifi-points-to-an-existing-nest-wifi-network
Thanks for explaining all the options. I’ve been thinking about doing a google set up for a while. I feel so much more confident to be able to do it now… cheers
Great video! Quick question - do you have to create a NEW Wifi network name when setting up the Google Nest WiFi Router? We have a network name that’s been assigned through Spectrum, and the Google router has asked me for a network name - not sure if I’m supposed to create a new network name or type in the same one that’s been assigned through Spectrum. Thanks!!
Thanks! It's up to you, you can create a new one (I did). When you create a new one, you have to go to all your wireless devices and reconnect them to your new SSID (network name). If your have a modem/router combo, make sure that router is disabled or set to bridge mode.
Hey, thanks for the thorough explanations. I'm thinking about getting a second Google router to strengthen my home signal but i can't run a cable between the two Google routers. What i can do is run a cable from my modem to each of the wi fi routers. Will they still be able to work as one network? Thanks again and keep it up!
No worries. One nest wifi router (which would become the main router) would connect to your modem and from there, everything else would have to connect to that main router. So basically either through a switch or directly but alll the other nest wifi routers or points would have to go through the main router. So to answer your question, no, if you want one network.
Wow great detailed vedio, but i dont get the first modem nest router at the beginning. If i have already modem and router provided from ISP and i cant change this router, how should i go with google nest system ??
Either ask your ISP to replace it with just a modem or disable the router portion of that by going to the settings and enable bridge mode. You can ask your ISP on how to do that as well. If you plan on holding on to that router and leaving it enabled, I would suggest getting a different mesh system that can run in access point mode. Granted I don't like this method nor do I recommend it. The other mesh system can be a Deco XE70 Pro or something similar that supports running in access point mode.
You did a great job, former network engineer here. I was curious about the number of ports and using a wired backhaul. Could not get the details on the specs. Thank you for the help and funny as I am moving from the same ASUS router as I have issues with it not being consistent.
@@landpet I put in the Nest Wifi and since have had zero loss on my nest cams. With the ASUS I had constant drop issues, those routers are just not reliable. Hope you are enjoying your set up too.
Thanks! I haven't played with that version but I imagine it is usually going to an IP address or browser link that you can usually find on a sticker on the device itself. Once you gain access to it, you can look for the "Bridge Mode" or Disable router option. If you can't find these, it's best to either reach your ISP or looking through it from the manuals.
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Hello. Thanks so much for the great detailed info. I already have 4 original Google wifi pucks set up but not always getting gigabit speeds I pay for even wired. I saw stats on throughput. Wondering if at least adding a new nest router as the main point pushing signal out to original Google wifi pucks could help and or if there's even further benefits to just replacing all 4 original pucks with two Nest routers for 2400 SQ ft. Lastly if I was to just replace is worth going to a wifi 6 mesh system instead for not much more with higher throughput? Spent countless hours on this so appreciate it.
Guess I'm 2 years too late 🙃 🤪
I've watched so many videos on this and no one has explained how to connect these to my modem so thoroughly. I am really happy that I came across your video. Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words! You are welcome!
WOW! Finally someone that explains in such detail. There is no possible way anyone wouldn't be able to wire any of the options you went over. GREAT JOB!!!! I look forward to looking at the rest of your Channel.
Greatly appreciate the feedback! Glad it was clear and easy to understand.
Thanks for being calm, on point and going into every detail. Finally I found someone who really has a grasp on how to explain the system in all possible options. Its probably the best video on google wifi for people who are invested into tinkering the best solution. Great job mate!
Thanks! Glad it was useful!
Finally! A video that explained it well!🙌🏻 Thank you😊
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Awesome user friendly video!!
❤THANK YOU for not wasting our time by dragging out the explanation!! Excellent info: direct, to the point yet detailed!!!
Well I'm obviously late to this response but Glad it was helpful!
Nothing is more satisfying than having flagrantly specific descriptions for configuring *anything*. Well done... you took all the mystery out of the process and made it so I only had to do things once. thank you!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
Bro, that was super detailed. I even like that you mentioned that it's better to center the router in Option 2 to ensure the Points have better connections.
Glad you liked it
You saved me a huge headache!! I could not figure out what was going on with my internet, now I’m pulling 500 up and down through fios.
I live in a 3 story townhome and now have the same speeds in all floors!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
Glad to hear it saved you a headache and glad to hear you're getting full speeds throughout!
I FINally figured it out , to enter a range you must enter External ( 1-5) Internal (1-5) took my about a month to realize you can enter the dash , finally fixed my port forwarding problem , typically you have 4 boxes when working with port forwarding but apparently google wants you to use the dash ( - ).
I've watched a few videos to try to understand the setup - this one actually covered what I needed. It had never occured to me to use two routers with a cable connection. Exactly what I need. Thanks.
No problem
Wow, 2 years later and you just saved me from jacking up a new install with 2 Nest routers and 2 wifi points I was about to make. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
I love that you are teaching newer tech while wearing that shirt. You rock, great video!
LOL, yeah I like that shirt. Thank you!
Thank you for taking your time and explaining it thoroughly! I haven’t seen any other person going through it in this detail.
I got a lot of questions on my other video and I didn't really see anyone explaining it in great detail so figured why not? help some people out. Thanks for the feedback! I look at the comments and feedback as well to determine what videos to make.
This is clearly the most informative video about the Nest WiFi system including several different options for increasing the area and speeds. I originally had my Nest router connected to the Verizon Fios Gateway ( modem/router combo) with the FIOS SSID disabled. Now, I completely eliminated the FIOS Gateway and simply have the Nest router connected directly to the Verizon ONT by Ethernet and it works flawlessly (no double NAT). I have two additional Nest routers set up as wireless points but after learning from your video the benefit of using a switch to connect them by Ethernet, I will set it up exactly like you have yours. I am thanking you by giving this video a Like and subscribing. You definitely deserve to be commended for sharing your knowledge and taking the time to answer everyone’s questions.
Thank you very much! I appreciate it! Glad the information was useful and yes as you mentioned it's best to avoid a double NAT.
@@landpet After completing option 3, I now get 363 down/173 up. Your video made this so easy to do and my home WiFi is now faster than the professionally installed WiFi at work. A thousand thank yous sir!
@@whatmeworry2006 That's awesome! I have to say that's an insane upload speed. I'm glad it was useful and yup Option #3 makes WiFi so much better!
@@landpet Do you use any wireless points with your set up? I’m asking because now that I have set up option 3 with three additional routers wired as points I am wondering what to do with my wireless points? If my router and 3 router/points are providing complete coverage, I can sell the points I no longer need or do you have any suggestions as to any other use for them?
@@whatmeworry2006 I don't use mine either, I just kept it for testing purposes for TH-cam at this point lol. No reason to keep it if you have full coverage which is the same for me as well.
Thanks for this awesome video! I have a quick question regarding my set up and what may or not be possible. Would it be possible to complete the following set up?
Modem ---> Google Nest Router --->Netgear 16 point unmanaged switch --->Ethernet cable to a 4 point socket/plate in a separate room ---> Ethernet cable into a 2nd Google Nest Router
I’ve seen online that it’s not possible because you aren’t plugging the second Google Nest router directly into the switch (you’re plugging it into a socket which connects to the switch via another cable in the wall. It would be great to get you thoughts and thanks again for the great video tutorial.
No worries. I don’t have mine Setup through a wall socket but I imagine it will work just fine assuming the wall socket is wired correctly. A wall socket is nothing but an extender of an Ethernet cable. I can’t see why it wouldn’t work if a switch works from the other side of a wall socket (which I’ve done in the past).
I have been searching for this who doesnt know anything in IT. Thank you
Glad it was useful!
Life saver only person with a video for 2 routers very informative subbed! 👍🏾
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
Love the crystal clear explanations! Quick question, I am rooting for option 3. This would be my setup:
Main nest router > unmanaged switch > 4 nest routers (each nest router will be hardwired to each TV’s. Kindly advise if this setup works before I make a purchase. Thank you!
Thanks!
Yes that will work if I understand correctly. Modem to nest wifi router to unmanaged switch to 4 nest wifi routers. Assuming you have four TV's then you go from each of those 4 nest wifi routers to each subsequent TV.
Correct! I may need to install a total of 5 nest routers and 4 nest points. Thank you.
@@naeiouce I don't know if you can install that many. Nest wifi recommends using a maximum of 5 devices. So using 9 might not be a good idea. Read more here: support.google.com/wifi/answer/7182840?hl=en
@@landpet, I have 8 points and 1 router and it works fine. 2 in the basement, 1 in the detached shop, 1 in the garage, 1 up stairs, 3 on the main floor and one router.
One question I do have is if, as in option 3, one were to connect two routers via ethernet, you wouldn't have to have 2 separate WiFi mesh SSIDs? Are you saying the second router effectively becomes a repeater with the same SSID as the main router or would they conflict with each other? Also, how would you determine which WiFi points would connect to which router?
Thanks for the excellent explanation...
@@MegaZiggo Wow, that's a lot of devices. Glad it works out well. Yes with option #3, the 2nd router becomes the point. The main router is the one that's connected to your modem, any other router you connect essentially acts like a point, except with better speeds because of the ethernet connection. All of this is handled automatically by the mesh system. Yes, it's still one SSID and all of them together are still one mesh wifi system.
I can say this is the best Google Nest Q&A I can find on TH-cam
Thanks!
Thanks for the great video! I have a question...(and sorry for the long message but if you do read all of this then thank you very much!). With option 4 (secondary Nest WiFi router connected wirelessly), can the secondary router connect to another Nest WiFi point or will it only connect to a Nest WiFi router? Basically, I only have one internet connection point in the house where the primary Nest WiFi router is, then a Nest Point in one room, and another Nest Point in another room on the other side of the house where the TV is. My TV annoyingly keeps repeatedly connecting to the primary router all the way over on the other side of the house with a weak signal and slow speeds even though there are two stronger/faster Nest Points closer to the TV. I want to use a secondary Nest router that I'm yet to purchase (wirelessly connected to the mesh network) to connect to the TV with ethernet so the TV is forced to use that connection. I'm worried the distance between the primary and secondary router will be too far so I'm hoping the secondary router can connect to one of the points in between.
No problem! So the secondary nest wifi router will try to connect to the main nest wifi router but if it's too far, then it will try to connect to the nest wifi point, do keep in mind there will be dramatic speed loss at this point because there are multiple wireless "hops" between the nest devices by the time it gets to your TV.
@@landpet Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. Your answer was very helpful. I don’t think there will be too much loss in speed because when the TV does actually connect to the closest point (before switching back to the point furthest away), the speed has only dropped by 2 or 3 mbps (much better than when it connects to the primary router in the other room). I’ll get another router and connect via Ethernet and see how it goes. Thanks again!
Beautiful video. Well explained. I have a question though.
Can I attach the modem to a switch, then then run three cables for three of my WIFI MESH routers? If so, all the speeds would be the same for all the routers?
Thanks! Modem needs to go to a router first. Then router goes to a switch. Then run two ethernet cables to your other two routers from the switch. All the speeds will be the same in this case.
@@landpet Thank you. Can I use my old router for the first Modem to router connection and the main Mesh routers connected to the switch in the center of the house? This is because my Switch setup is at a place where we hardly spend time and I want the main routers to be at the main areas of the house. Does a cheap router to Switch compromise the speed. Should I also invest on a good router purely for connecting modem to router to switch?
@@praneethpragallapati4983 I understand what you're saying but it doesn't really work that way. At that point, you're going to be creating two separate networks. You want to stick to one mesh wifi system, you would hook up your nest wifi router to your modem and go from there. I would not use your old router.
This man literally answered every question I had. Legend.
Thanks!
IMMEDIATELY SUBSCRIBED, the knowledge is why I came but the presentation is why I stayed! Fabulous review.
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback!
THANK YOU! For dumbing it down for us that are newbies looking for network expansion.
No problem!
Thanks for your great video!!
I have one question. I connected 2 nest routers wirely and whenever i go to the google home app and set them up, my second router connected wirelesly(it recognize as a nest point) if i use second nest router wirely, can i just not set up the mesh network from google home app?? Just plug lan cable from main router to second router?? Thats it??
Thanks
No problem. Yes you can just plug in your second nest to your main nest router via Ethernet, there’s nothing you need to change in the Google home app. It will recognize it automatically. The second typically shows up as a point because only the main one acts as the router.
Excellent explanation of Google Nest router configurations. I just purchased a 3 device solution for improved coverage for my house and panicked when Amazon sent me 3 routers, but based on your explanation the router connected to my modem will be the only device acting as a router, and the other two devices will act like points. Thanks!
Thanks! Yes that's exactly how it works.
Great video. Just purchased a two google router configuration. Your configuration explanation has given more options than I originally thought I would be able to do. Thanks
Glad it helped
I spent so long trying to figure out what this guy says so concisely.
Thanks for the feedback
Hi, my modem has a built in router which is connected to a switch for my wired connections. The router wifi is off. To get the best out of my Google mesh set up should I connect the Google router to the modem and then to the switch so all wired connections come from the switch, not the modem/ router?
Brilliant, brilliant video. I actually applauded at least twice while watching. Now, if only other youtubers were this informative. Thanks for your efforts. I'm a new sub so I better go back and watch your other vids now :)
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback. It’s good to hear cause it keeps me making detailed videos like this one as well as short concise ones.
You hit everything I wanted to know especially about using multiple routers. Excellent job my friend! Now I just need access to faster internet than 25mb/s lol
No problem! Lol!
This is by the best video on the Nest wifi setup variations. Thanks so much!
Glad it was useful!
This explained all my questions! Thanks! One more question. I have a 2 story house. Would you place all the google WiFi’s mesh on the second floor or would you place 2 on the second floor and 1 in the first floor?
One on each floor
This was very very helpful! Thank you! You covered literally all my questions, like do I lose speed if don't connect with ethernet cable. Thank you. And I will invest in the unmanaged switch. Excellent! Can't thank you enough!
You're welcome!
THIS is the video I've been looking for -- thank you! I just recently learned of the method you're using in Option 3.
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback!
best explanation, same scenario I am facing.. requiring a switch in living room with main router, and another router + switch in other room
Thanks, yup that's exactly how I run it. Option #3 with a switch connected to the main router and another switch connected to the other router.
Thanks for the video - quick Question!
I'm trying to add a 2nd "nest router" as a point to extend wifi wirelessly; however, when I add the 2nd router to the Home App, it doesn't give me an option to add it as a point and tried to create a new SSID...
Any ideas how I can get my 2nd router to act as a point within the same network? THANK YOU! ☺
(I already factory rest the router)
No problem! It's been a while since I've set this up but it should be the same way where you add it in the Google home app and select the home, it should add it as a point or at least give the option for it. Heres a link: support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9548301?hl=en#zippy=%2Cset-up-your-nest-wifi-pro-router
Btw, just as a heads up the nest wifi and nest wifi pro are not compatible with each other. If that's what you're setting up, then they cannot be on the same network.
Great video. For Option 3 what difference would it make if you configured it as follows : Modem -> nest Router -> switch -> another switch -> next wifi router . ie 2nd switch is before the the wifi router. Thanks
Thabks! No difference. That works fine as wired backhaul (option 3)
Gosh best teacher (Tutor) ever!!
Thanks!
Excellent explanation, simple and straightforward. This is a must-see video if you plan to buy or just got Google Wifi. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Thank you! I looked everywhere in the internet regarding various connection options and couldn't find much other than "how to set up"... your video was exactly what I was looking for, with great simple explanation. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Great video. Thank you so much, now i understand what to do.
I have 2 questions.
1 From the first point, can i put a switch there, and from that switch put a cable to a second switch. And from the first switch put a cable to the second accespoint?
2 how long are the powercords? I think its a good idea to place the points high on the wall.
Sorry for my bad english, but i hope you understand.
Thanks!
1. Not sure I understand fully but here's the order that you can do:
Modem > Nest WiFi Router > Switch > To all other Nest WiFi's (this will work fine)
You can not do this:
Modem > Switch > Nest WiFi Router (this will not work)
2. I can't remember how long they are, I don't have this anymore.
@@landpet Thank you for the reply. I see now my bad explaining.
Can i do this.
Modem - nest wifi router - Split(switch) - 1. Switch - 3x cable
- 2. Nest wifi router
Thank you
What a brilliant video, you literally explained everything, missing no little detail and explained it simply so everyone can understand. Thank you for your time! 👊👊👊🙏
Glad it was helpful!
Wow, great video. Clear, concise, the right pace...well done and thank you
Thanks! Glad it was helpful
How are you getting a Cat5 "a few rooms away"? Are you cutting holes in the walls? Ceilings? Dragging it through the hallway? Also isn't the other non-router devices a downgrade from the Pro version? The generation 1 version of this all had "router ports" and can be used as routers are access points or extenders.
It goes through the walls in most cases.
The “newer” Pro version should be better than this version that it replaces.
The most amazing well explained video on the internet explaining google wifi. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Wow, this is what I've been looking for. Thank you for pointing out to use an unmanaged switch to enjoy plug and play.
No problem!
Great video! Very detailed, informative, and understandable. I am finally putting my trusty old AirPort Extreme out to pasture, along with an old-school wi-fi extender I was using in my basement. Ordered the Nest mesh system and it should be delivered in a few days. Thank you so much for showing so many options for setting it up.
Glad it was useful! Mesh systems are pretty awesome
my home is a squared 2 storied with a basement and my main router has to be upstairs. What is the best option for a mesh wifi system?
1. 2 nest router {one for upstairs and one for the main floor} but connected through wireless [wired is not an option because upstairs and downstairs are difficult to connect with wire!]
2. 2 next router + 1 wifi point [ for basement]
3. 2 eero pro 6 routers connected wireless { one for upstairs tied to ISP modem and one for the main floor}
4. 1 eero 6 router for upstairs to connect with ISP modem, 1 wifi point for the main floor, and 1 wifi point for basement
or if you suggest any other combination? I plan not to go above 400$ for my budget.
Please advise.
From those four choice, i would go with number 3. Anytime you go wireless backhaul, I recommend tri-band. Based on your other comments, looks like you made the same choice
This helped me greatly! Thanks so much! What happens if we want 3 routers to extend the network even more? Could we connect the 3rd one wirelessly and be okay?
Got a bunch of nest wifi routers from US to India. And because of the cement concrete walls, beams and columns the wifi drops like crazy between two points.
After looking at this video I'm going to get a switch and try the different configurations. Thanks for the video!
No problem! If you can do wired backhaul, it should solve a lot of issues.
@@landpet yes, that's the plan. Fortunately the house was re-done recently so I have CAT 6 cables dropped in each room from a central location..plan is to keep the switch in the central location and connect other nest routers via cables.
Just one question, how does the secondary router choose whether to connect to the primary wirelessly or wired? I mean when I setup a new router in the Google home app, it doesn't specify how we have connected the router.
Went ahead with option 3 and a switch.
Working flawlessly and full speeds everywhere! Thanks!
This is definitely the most thorough video I have come across.. Thank you for explaining things so simply.
Glad it helped out!
Awesome! I'm going to use your affiliate links and buy two nest routers and the tp link switch. Very helpful video, thank you
Thanks for the feedback and using my links! I appreciate it!
@@landpet If I decide to get different switch and modem, does the affiliate link work if I use it to browse another product?
Yes it does, thanks!
Hello thank u for the video ... question if i buy the modem on the video and the nest wifi will I have wifi ??? I'm wanting to disconnect my services with spectrum price continues to get higher
No problem.
Short answer: you will not have internet access without your ISP (in your case Spectrum). I know what you mean with the prices going up, I’m also on Spectrum. You can call them and talk to the retention department, sometimes they lower the prices.
Long answer: in today’s society, the word WiFi is often misused, people typically think WiFi means having internet access which in its true technical term is false. Having WiFi means your device has access to the local network (meaning it connects to the mesh WiFi or the router). That means even without internet access, your devices can connect to WiFi and talk to each other. Meaning even if your internet goes down, you can still print something to your network printer because they’re on the same network. Now if that router or mesh network is connected to a modem that is getting service from an Internet Service Provider (ISP), then connecting to WiFi will let you access the internet.
Bottom line: this thing only expands your WiFi coverage but you still need an activated modem to get internet access which for most of us costs money monthly.
Finally a fantastic video. Exactly what I was looking for! This like is well deserved! Cheers!
Thanks!
Great video, thank you! Option 3 is perfect for me. However a question, would I need the switch (Plugged into the Primary Router) for all my devices, or could I use the ports in my ISP Router/Modem instead? Whats the difference?
What great tutorials on March 1 and May 31! Simple and well organized, while watching you make the logical and electronic connections. At 1:15 of the May 31 video, you mentioned a connection from your old router to the GN router. How do you connect them? How do you configure to use same network & SSID? Can you still use the old router's outbound ports? Can this all be enclosed in an existing MoCA network wherever I have coax but no ethernet? My head is exploding!
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback!
lol, head exploding, mine too :)
Ok, let me try to explain this, feel free to ask questions. Let's start from the beginning:
Depending on the size of your place, I personally wouldn't recommend using MoCA (I did use these in the past many years ago when Mesh didn't exist and wireless was terrible) because they are typically rated for slower speeds, unless it's really far away which is typically not the case for most people. As far as old router, I personally wouldn't recommend using any router with the Google Nest Wifi Router. I would just use the Nest Wifi Router and Nest Wifi Points and if you need more ethernet ports, I would just get a cheap unmanaged switch.
Can you connect your old router to the Nest Wifi Router? Yes.
Do I recommend it? No.
If you do connect your old router, you pretty much have to disable the SSID (if it's the same SSID) of your old router, otherwise you will have intermittent issues; translation: your wifi (phone, laptop, etc) device will not really know which device to connect to for an optimal connection. While you can use your old routers ethernet ports, I feel like your complicating your setup and making it harder to troubleshoot issues. Google Nest Wifi can't really optimize the connections in this scenario because Google software is not controlling your old router. The point of a mesh system is to make things simple, so by only using the Google Nest Wifi router and one or more Nest Wifi Points (or Nest Wifi Router(s) acting as points). In this way, Google's software is running on all the Nest Wifi router(s) and point(s), it determines where your device is and makes the necessary switch to ensure you have the "best" possible wifi connection. It's not perfect but it's pretty good.
In summary, Googles Mesh System (or any mesh system) is designed to simplify your network by removing older parts and starting with a clean slate. All you need is your ISP modem, the Google mesh system and if you need more ethernet ports, just get one or more unmanaged switch(es).
Googles mesh system is really good, I have tested Google Duo and FaceTime while walking through my place for it force switch to another Nest Wifi Router (acting as a point). The live video call didn't get cut and nothing lagged at all, the switch was seamless.
Does this make sense?
@@landpet Great advice - you are worth hundred$ per hour. I'll go with two Google Nest Routers, and I'll squirm through the dusty attic to get them CAT-6 connected. Hope to be watching 4K HDR and listening to ATMOS soon. Thanks again.
Thanks! Dusty attic is not fun, but once you get that thing wired. Your network will be solid! That's the setup I'm running, two nest wifi routers with two switches, very happy with it! Should handle 4K HDR with ATMOS just fine. ATMOS must sound amazing!
Thanks for the content! I have 5 points (3 older google nest + 2 2nd gen) and one google router. WiFi works fine throughout house. I do have Ethernet cables I could connect. Can I do modem>google router>unmanaged switch and connect 2-3 Ethernet cables into switch? Or do I need another google router? Would WiFi get faster bc network isn’t as bogged down? Thank you!
Yes you can do that. WiFi may get a bit faster in theory since there’s less stuff on it but it really depends how much those devices were using.
Wonderful video. I have a 1400 sq ft ranch home and crappy wi-fi from an old router that is 15 years old or more. The house is actual rooms with some walls separating dining room and living room, and the hallway down to bedrooms and not open floor plan like all the new homes are now. Do you think it would be best to put modem in central location and connect 1 google nest router there, then run a long ethernet cable from the router to my laptop in the dining room/office space? I use more wired connection than ethernet but do use wi-fi here and there and to stream some. Thank you
Thanks! I'm obviously late to this response but better late than never :)
Yes centrally located is always preferred however if you're looking for performance/price, I would check out the TP-Link Deco XE75. They actually have fairly good performance on wireless backhaul. You can still connect via ethernet to the secondary node even if the secondary node is wirelessly connected to the main router.
Great video but I still have a question: I have a cable router instead of a modem. What do you mean ”you will have to disable that router” ?
Do I have to change the configuration to bridged ?
If you have a modem/router combo, then yes you would need to set that to bridge mode to essentially disable the router portion of it so the nest WiFi can become the main router.
Thanks for the most clear and concise explanation ever. I have one question that I cannot find the answer to on the internet.
Does the password you set have to be the same as your existing wifi password given by your broadband supplier, or can you invent a new one?
As its the same network I wondered if this was important or not.
No problem. You can set a new WiFi name and/or a new password. The choice is yours. However, when you change the WiFi name (SSID) or password, you do need to update all your WiFi devices to connect to this new router. Using the same WiFi name and password (both case sensitive), your devices will automatically connect to the new router.
@@landpet Thanks
Best review n explanations than my math teacher 🔥
Lol! Thanks!
I just set up my Google Wi-Fi today and the two questions I had turned out to be legitimate. 1. You need internet mobile carrier service during the installation. It wouldn't work until I was on a carrier network. 2. I had a new access point for internet wifi so all my devices had to be reconnected to this . Took 30 minutes after failing 2 times switch to a carrier service network then wala n my speeds are now easily 5 times faster amazing
Great video! I have an old google Wifi mesh network, but for some reason (maybe interference from neighbors’ Wifi?) my outdoor ring security cameras have started to disconnect from wifi due to poor RSSI strength. I just ordered a nest router 2 pack on Amazon, but after watching your video, I’m disappointed to hear that the 2nd router, if wirelessly connected to the main router, isn’t any faster than a point. That said, will it broadcast a more powerful signal than a point, since it has twice the antennas? I’m banking on that, to better reach my ring cameras. Thanks!
In theory, it should broad ast a stronger signal but don't expect faster speeds however it sounds like your issue is with the signal strength. One thing that's important to note, security cameras in general are using outdated wifi standards, otherwise it would connect just fine typically. As a result, mesh systems resolve many of those issues because they boost the signal throughout
When going from nest router to nest router with the ethernet does it matter which port you plug into?
Yes it matters. From the main nest router you go from the port with arrows to the port with the globe on the secondary nest router (acting as a point), repeat this pattern for anymore nest routers.
You definitely get a 5 + 1 stars from me. This is so thorough and gives so many different scenarios and options for me. I just got 2 pack Nest routers. I will try to connect the primary one to the 2nd one with an ethernet cable as suggested by you.
I want to try putting the primary router in the middle of the house, which will be 30 feet from the modem so hopefully this is not too far from it.
I do have a back unit that I want to connect wifi connection to the router. I only have a 1250 sqft for the main house and back unit is only about 15' away from the main residence so hopefully a wifi connection will provide enough strength and speed for the back unit. Your video didn't really mention the distance by feet so I couldn't figure out if the connections will be okay within a certain perimeter... What do you think? Thank you very much for the video! Love to hear from you.
Thanks! Option #3 is the best possible option and yes it's ok to put the router 30 feet from the modem because it's connected through ethernet. Obviously the farther you go the weaker the signal will be but 15' away seems fine, there will be some loss from the walls but it should be ok. If all else fails, you can get another Nest Wifi Point or Router and just connect to the other router via wireless.
Awesome video. With option 4 when you mentioned still being able to connect devices wired to the second router that is connected wirelessly to the main router. Is it safe to say that the speeds would be faster that way compared to just connecting to it wirelessly?
Yes it will give you the best possible speeds of that wireless second router.
yeah dude this was a very good video! I appreciate the clarity because other videos haven't discussed the configurations like you. Thanks!. I Like option #3 and will be implementing this because I have some dead spots that I'm struggling with. Thanks again and YES I've subscribed :)
Thanks! Glad it was useful!
Hi, found your video very useful but I have a question. Can I connect the modem to a switch and then to 2 google router?
Hey! How are u doing? I watched the entire video and it's super helpful but I still have a doubt about what to do in my particular situation.
I live in a 6000sqft plot of land.
In that plot I have two houses or homes.
In house number 1, I have the incoming internet connection cable, the Google Nest Router and One Wifi Point.
In house number 2 I have one Google WiFi Point.
The internet connection all over the place is decent.
My problem is the following: In the Google home App I can't take the Google point in house number two, I must have it all under the same roof.
So how can I keep them separately?
Someone suggested to buy another Google WiFi for home 2 and link it to the first one(wireless)
What do u think? Any thoughts?
Thanks!!!
You can do that. But what are you trying to accomplish? You mentioned that you have internet in your second home via the Wifi point. Are you trying to create 2 separate networks? Or do you want one SSID for both homes?
@@landpet I wanto to be able to set up the devices the correct way in the Google Home App.
Otherwise I have to add members of house 2 to house 1 giving them access to all my devices.
Also, I can set up in house 2 the personalized answers by Google.
I don't mind if it's the same internet connection or not
@@Trotamundospatricio Any reason you can't setup Nest Wifi Point as House 1 and just place it in House 2?
@@landpet the reason for doing that is that I want to get coverage, but I thought I was going to be able to move the point to house 2 in the Google Home App and that's not possible.
The main goal is to give people who live in house 1 control over those devices and people who live in house 2 control over house 2 devices.
My house has Cat5 wired throughout. But phones, iPads, and streaming are wifi only. My current setup I use the LAN to use a second router to extend , and doesn’t work as well as I want and I have 2 networks we toggle between when one sucks. We have more devices now and looking to get this with Black Friday 2020 sales. Thanks for the explanation. I think I will get the two router setup, and hook one from the modem to the switch and the second from a room LAN. Like I am doing now but with better signal and much less hassle. We also have caregivers in the house and having a guest wifi will be great. Thanks for the explanation!
No problem! Cat5 doesn't support gigabit unless you're referring to Cat5e. The nest wifi router is a solid router but there are better ones out there like the newly released eero Pro 6 or the Netgear Orbi RBK752. By better I mean better over wifi, over ethernet there's no difference between these two and the Nest WiFi but again Nest WiFi is solid with really good performance. I've used it for a year without a single issue, so great buy.
Hey this is such an amazing video, helped me a lot. I just have 1 question hoping you can help.
I know have 3 nest wifi routers, 2 points, and a switch. My connection is as follows:
Modem to Main Router
Main router to a switch
Switch to a panel
Panel to 2 other routers
When setting the 2 routers up, 1 is working perfectly fine, while the second one isn't transmitting any wireless but ia connected as per the google home app, any idea why?
I hope i explained my setup well...
Thanks!
That sounds like a weird issue, try restarting the whole network. I forget for the google home app if you can disable that or not, I would look there if the restart doesn’t fix it. The third thing I would try is a factory reset which will erase everything and start from scratch, not sure if you want to do this or not. It’s possible that it’s defective as well if nothing else worked.
Your video is basicly one of the only ones, showing that you can connect hardware (bridge, streaming devices ect) to the secondary router, when also using this as a wifi point. When using the ethernet out to a device, (on the router-point) will the wireless part still work ?
Yes, the secondary router acting as a point will work wirelessly and wired.
Brilliant video, I have option three but second router is connected to a spare way in my modem…. It runs to a gym at the bottom of my garden, on a separate ssid,but I’m assuming I would be better off going through the first nest router and connecting to my original network then my Wi-Fi in my phone would just pick up the same network?
Thanks! Yes that would work if you connected the second router to the first.
I noticed that you have a link for a 16 port switch. Do you recommend a smaller one? I only need one additional port. I noticed that if I click on the ones with 8, it is about the same price as the 16 ... plus it has too many ports anyway. Thanks 😊.
Yes, feel free to get the size you need.
Thank you for an extremely thorough explanation of the nest wifi compared to all these videos on youtube 👍
Glad it was helpful!
It’s six months later and my Nest WiFi setup as per your video is still working great. Strong & fast signals everywhere. On another matter, can you offer any advice to set up a smart temperature sensor to control a box fan connected to a smart outlet switch using Apple HomeKit. I have smart outlets switches and they are very handy. Is there a particular temperature sensor you would recommend or suggest? Thanks in advance.
That's great to hear. I haven't played with or researched smart temperature sensors, so can't recommend anything yet
Wow you did a really good job at explaining all of this. You would never be able to find this info on the Google website…
Glad it was helpful! Thanks!
Thanks to this awesome video I am still enjoying fast and reliable wi-fi two years after following your advice. What are thoughts about upgrading this setup to the new Nest Wifi Pro?
Well, I'm definitely late to this question. New Nest WiFi Pro is better than the Nest WiFi but the upgrade really depends on you. If you're using it in wired backhaul, there's not going to be a huge difference unless you have some wifi 6e devices. If you're running it in wireless backhaul, there should be some improvements over the original nest wifi.
Well, this was extensive! I've been searching for a while for this information. Thanks a lot! :D
Glad it was helpful!
great explanation of this. however, you went to in depth with the detail of the speed, you almost gave me the impression that anything more than one point would be extremley low speeds. i know that's not what you meant as i've seen many videos with people with great to good speeds on the 3 google wifi mesh or this nest. i just got a new modem and router from spectrum and our wifi is terrible now. even though i'm in a 2,700 qr ft home, our signal drops after 10 ft of leaving the modem. we can barely watch netflix upstairs but the kids can't play online anymore because the signal is so bad. i hope this will fix the issue. i'm also gonna exchange their router that they gave me. although, if i'm getting this product i shouldn't need spectrums router. do you recommend the google wifi mesh? i'm gonna buy that one since most reviews i've seen are positive. i was wondering if they a 6g mesh router or would i be fine using the current model that uses 2g and 5g?
Great video! In option #4 (2 Nest routers in wireless mesh / without wireless backhaul), can you use both of the ethernet ports on the 2nd router to connect devices, or the just one port with the arrows? I'm wondering what happens to the port with the globe in this setup.
Thanks! Just one port, the one with the arrows, the other one is dedicated for receiving an internet connection via ethernet (option #3)
@@landpet Interesting. I think on my old Google Wifi, both of the ports would would work to wire up a computer or printer, etc. It's unfortunate that they messed with that on the Nest Wifi... removing them entirely if you go with the access points instead of the router, and dedicating one to only working to receive internet.
@@ugabrew Yup
Thank you Soo much for sharing your Knowledge about this system and the in’s and out’s of its abilities!
Definitely deserve more than a 👍🏽 and a Sub for your amazing content!
I hope TH-cam compensates you for your efforts on Educating people on this topic!🙏🏽!
Thanks again Brother!
Is it possible to put router downstairs and wifi point on first floor? Or is distance to far? I read somewhere max distance is two rooms? So its one wifi network combined 2.4 and 5 Ghz. Will this give problems with smarthome devices like 2.4 ghz doorbell or 2.4 ghz camera to connect? Thx great video
It is possible but try to put the point directly above or closer to it. Every home is different but it should work but you will lose speeds in the point cause it’s using wireless backhaul. The cameras should connect to the 2.4GHz
Well this was hands down the best explanation for how to set this up. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video. Quick question in regards to option 4, two Wi-Fi router’s wirelessly connected, is it better to connect my ps5 with Ethernet to the secondary router or just run my ps5 on without the cable? I can’t connect the two routers with a cable because they’re far apart. Also, which port would the ps5 Ethernet cable go to on the secondary router? Appreciate the help!
Thanks, you would connect it to the “arrow” port
Mate, finally found the answers to my questions! Thank you for being so clear and helpful.
Happy to help!
Thank you for this vid. I am about to move into a new house and want to wire most the devices. This really helps. I was trying to find a way to wire because the study in the new home is on the side of the house where I want to keep all the wired NAS, Printers, Hue hub, smart thing hub, etc in but would want to wire one or two of the google WiFi points. Since there are 3 levels, and we all know basements can be tricky when it comes to wireless mesh.
I want to confirm if I connect the 2nd/3rd router to the switch that is connect to the main google router it is still part of the same network? The reason i got the switch was because google doesn't see the hubs unless i connect the switch to the google router. I believe its because they need same ISP. Iv read that connecting multiple google router can mess up your system.
Yes, if they are connected to the switch that is connected to the main router, then it will be the same network. I use option #3 and I go from my modem to 1st router to 1st switch to 2nd router to 2nd switch. Both switches have other stuff connected as well. All one network (the same network as the 1st router).
Super helpful video - quick question: Just say I buy an extra Nest Router and pop that in a different room - is it possible to have that extra Nest Router as Wifi access point but also use the ethernet point to connect say a NAS storage?
Thanks!
To answer your question: Yes, if you buy an extra Nest Router, once you add it to your existing Nest Router, the extra Nest Router will act as a Nest Point hence giving WiFi access to devices. It will also let you use one of the two ethernet ports (the one with the arrows, not the globe) to connect any device, so yes you can connect your NAS to that ethernet port and your NAS will show up on the network. If you want more ethernet ports, feel free to connect a switch to that port instead and connect your NAS and any other device to the switch.
Cheers, been looking all day at why there is a difference in speed, now i know it's genuine haha
Same thing happened to me actually, I contacted support several times and then decided to make videos about this. One thing led to another and here I am reviewing mesh wifi's now in addition to the other tech stuff.
Great review. I was doing research today because Amazon has the 2 router pack on sale for $239.
Thanks! This Nest Wifi Router is amazing, especially if you connect it through ethernet (option #3). It's been seamless since I got it, automatic updates, everything is automatic and it works very well.
What if i do 3 routers?
3 routers works the same way just gives you a wider area for wifi coverage. If you connect them through ethernet, then you will have the best possible wifi speeds (connected the same way as you go from router 1 to router 2, you just go from router 2 to router 3, you can go through a switch as well). Or you can go with option #4 and connect them wirelessly just like you would with the nest wifi point.
Subscribed. Thanks man, great explanations. Only question I have is, does the best router still connect to the Google cloud in this scenario? Allowing your data to be accessed?
Thanks! Yes if you enable it assuming we’re talking about the same thing. There are a few options to share your data with the cloud, one of them is necessary to find out which devices are connected.
I'm not the most knowledgeable, so may be saying it wrong. Im mostly talking about browsing history, etc, that would be used or sold. Im working on a home hub decision at same time as possibly a home network. Was looking at hubitat due to local control, but still debating on whether to go the wifi, zwave, or zigbee path
@@danny51577 If you don't want browsing history going anywhere, you need something like a vpn; expressvpn is a popular brand among others. As far as home automation, there are lots of smart home devices that don't require a hub, that's what I personally prefer. If you did want a hub, the eero 6 and eero Pro 6 mesh wifi's have a zigbee smart home hub built-in to the router itself.
If I get the google Wifi and google nest WiFi and my modem only has one port (wan) how do I connect both to have one whole system?
Please reply
Connect the nest wifi router (globe port) to the WAN port of your modem. On the Google Home App (or Google Wifi app), follow the instructions to setup a new network. After it's setup, add the Google Wifi Router (again from the Google Home App or the Google Wifi app), you have the option to connect it wirelessly or through an ethernet cable to the main Nest Wifi router. Hope this helps. Here's more info here: support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9548099?hl=en#zippy=%2Cnest-wifi-router-with-or-without-nest-wifi-points%2Ci-want-to-add-google-wifi-points-to-an-existing-nest-wifi-network
Thanks for explaining all the options. I’ve been thinking about doing a google set up for a while. I feel so much more confident to be able to do it now… cheers
You're welcome! Great to hear
Great video! Quick question - do you have to create a NEW Wifi network name when setting up the Google Nest WiFi Router? We have a network name that’s been assigned through Spectrum, and the Google router has asked me for a network name - not sure if I’m supposed to create a new network name or type in the same one that’s been assigned through Spectrum. Thanks!!
Thanks!
It's up to you, you can create a new one (I did). When you create a new one, you have to go to all your wireless devices and reconnect them to your new SSID (network name). If your have a modem/router combo, make sure that router is disabled or set to bridge mode.
Hey, thanks for the thorough explanations. I'm thinking about getting a second Google router to strengthen my home signal but i can't run a cable between the two Google routers. What i can do is run a cable from my modem to each of the wi fi routers. Will they still be able to work as one network? Thanks again and keep it up!
No worries. One nest wifi router (which would become the main router) would connect to your modem and from there, everything else would have to connect to that main router. So basically either through a switch or directly but alll the other nest wifi routers or points would have to go through the main router. So to answer your question, no, if you want one network.
Wow great detailed vedio, but i dont get the first modem nest router at the beginning.
If i have already modem and router provided from ISP and i cant change this router, how should i go with google nest system ??
Either ask your ISP to replace it with just a modem or disable the router portion of that by going to the settings and enable bridge mode. You can ask your ISP on how to do that as well.
If you plan on holding on to that router and leaving it enabled, I would suggest getting a different mesh system that can run in access point mode. Granted I don't like this method nor do I recommend it. The other mesh system can be a Deco XE70 Pro or something similar that supports running in access point mode.
You did a great job, former network engineer here. I was curious about the number of ports and using a wired backhaul. Could not get the details on the specs. Thank you for the help and funny as I am moving from the same ASUS router as I have issues with it not being consistent.
Thanks, I appreciate that especially coming from a network engineer! Yeah it was time to upgrade for me as well.
@@landpet I put in the Nest Wifi and since have had zero loss on my nest cams. With the ASUS I had constant drop issues, those routers are just not reliable. Hope you are enjoying your set up too.
I'm glad it worked out! Thanks for the update!
Very well explained. How can you disable router in modem/router combo like Tp-Link CR700 if you want to use your own Google nest mesh wifi, instead?
Thanks! I haven't played with that version but I imagine it is usually going to an IP address or browser link that you can usually find on a sticker on the device itself. Once you gain access to it, you can look for the "Bridge Mode" or Disable router option. If you can't find these, it's best to either reach your ISP or looking through it from the manuals.