I taught myself to fly, I had no idea about trim, it was hard, i then knew trim was needed but you cannott trim unless you can fly, lol. I worked it out and it was a revelation! What helped me most was a few parkzone plane that flew out the box with not much trimming needed, I could fly. I then could fly other planes and trim them. I have to thank parkzone for that!
This is a great video for people who already know how to trim a plane. Consider the REAL noob. He sees Josh fly a plane, talking about making adjustments (somewhere on the transmitter? never see his hands) and as he talks, the plane seems to fly differently. We never find out why. For the next "How to Trim" video, I'd suggest: 1) What does it mean to trim a plane? 2) What controls are involved? 3) How do you make the actual adjustment? Non-noobs know this. Tailor it for the real beginner.
ALWAYS before you maiden a plane make sure you look at the control surfaces and make sure that they are all centered as best you can. This will usually make the trimming while in flight much easier.
good tip^^ and one thing i found out the hard way is that you should have the power on when adjusting the rods for the servos... otherwise the servo will not be centered when you surface are... and this will make a mess... i lost a brand new plane to this mistake
Chad, Josh & Josh and Crew, Thanks for another great segment! A very informative piece with real meat on its bones for rc flyers. No puff/fluff here! Very nice visuals and audio, too. This is great info. for me now, as I am preparing to maiden my first RC build, a Hobby King Ryan STA. Thanks & Best Regards, John ( in the Great Smoky Mountains) SUBSCRIBED!
He's saying that you can tell if your rudder is centered from a ground launch because if the rudder is not straight, then the plane will pull one way or another on takeoff. However, with a hand launch there is no way to check for rudder trim without flying because the rudder is not connected to the ground via a tail wheel or skid. Hope this helps!
Hey Guys, i absolutely love your videos and i am just getting into this hobby, I have made a 6ch plane and im a decent pilot... or so i thought until i crashed, but could you please review the spektrum line of transmitters? i want to get the DX6i so if you could review that, i know it would help me and a lot of other beginners looking for a good first or second transmitter.
Could you guys do a video about CG showing what happens when a plane is tail heavy vs nose heavy? It would also be informative to give tips on adjusting CG for certain aerobatic manuevers.
DSLEXIC PILOT here, you talk about trimming in the air. Today I tried, when trimming elevator are the down clicks to make it go up? Or do up clicks make it go up?
In fact, the most dangerous thing is reversed controls. Even if surfaces are not perfectly centered, you could counteract with sticks and trim them. However, if controls are reversed by accident (or by your friend Josh), no one is able to fly even for a few seconds (why? for example, look for 'reverse bike' at youtube). Many transmitters don't have reverse switches under your finders, but hidden in the menu, so you can't switch them in the fly. So, check EAR with REVERSE as well.
Now isn't there a method for checking trim prior to take off for total nob beginners? Wouldn't you want to make sure the control surfaces were in a neutral (centered) position as part of a pre-flight?
i oredered the f22 parts the day the video came out and there still not all herer yet.. i ordered a 5pack of propellers and they were instock and its benn almost 3 weeks and they still havent shipped from your warehouse.... i know you all are not that busy whats the deal with HK orders taking a months to ship and a month to 45 days to arive?
after i have posted that, i just realized theres an easier way ... a sort of 'trigger' button at the back of the transmitter that can be pushed independently of the thumbs or index fingers that you use to move the sticks, depending on your style .... basically, you provide the inputs necessary to get the plane flying level, then you press the 'trigger' with a free finger, and your stick positions will be the new zero points on second thought this might require alot of concentration and skill ...
I like your idea, but it is not necessary to send data back. It could be a unit between the receiver and servos that will reads gyros measurements and adjusts the signal to servos accordingly. It should operate in 2 modes. 1) A pilot rises a plane as high as possible, presses a button and drops sticks, and the unit gets corrections needed to zero gyros. 2) Normal mode, when these corrections are applied to output signal to servos.
In this time of Internet video, the audience is starting to care more and more about the "behind the scenes" cast. Even though Josh and Josh are the stars of flitetest, it's nice to see and once in a while hear from the crew, because in a small crew like this they're all typically colleagues and friends.
@FuttFel We'll always mix beginner videos with more advanced videos. That way we tackle all skill levels all the time. Chronological order would only work for the people who started flying right when Flitetest began :)
Because the aileron doesn't turn the plane. The aileron only rolls the plane and without elevator input that's all aileron will do. Rudder will yaw, roll and "turn" the plane.
heres a little wish that i have.... telemetry and gyros on the plane sending data back down to the trasmitter ... center the sticks and push a button, and the transmitter autosets its trim until the gyros are not reading any more rotation on the plane
I don't mean to sound rude but this isn't a good vid. I think most people (even beginners) know how to trim a plane. However 3:56 is the best landing i have ever seen any of you guys do. Really smooth and gentle.
Poor form trimming ailerons before rudder IMO. Rudder trim depends wildly on airspeed and should be trimmed first. Then elevator and ailerons last. If you trim ailerons first you will be trimming the plane to maintain uncoordinated flight. This can be really dangerous at low speed in a skidding turn. Cross control stall in the landing pattern would likely be catastrophic
awsome vid guys thanks! wish i would have watched it before me first ever flight! also a small tip for anyone who is a beginner and is going to go up for their first flight... DO NOT fly anywhere where there is a pond or lake near by! because you will inevidably end up in it!!! no damage to the airframe but i blew out my esc after about a 2min flight!
I taught myself to fly, I had no idea about trim, it was hard, i then knew trim was needed but you cannott trim unless you can fly, lol. I worked it out and it was a revelation! What helped me most was a few parkzone plane that flew out the box with not much trimming needed, I could fly. I then could fly other planes and trim them. I have to thank parkzone for that!
This is a great video for people who already know how to trim a plane. Consider the REAL noob. He sees Josh fly a plane, talking about making adjustments (somewhere on the transmitter? never see his hands) and as he talks, the plane seems to fly differently. We never find out why.
For the next "How to Trim" video, I'd suggest:
1) What does it mean to trim a plane?
2) What controls are involved?
3) How do you make the actual adjustment?
Non-noobs know this. Tailor it for the real beginner.
Whoa a Josh Bixler/Josh Scott classic video! Awesome! Thanks, Flite Test!
ALWAYS before you maiden a plane make sure you look at the control surfaces and make sure that they are all centered as best you can. This will usually make the trimming while in flight much easier.
good tip^^ and one thing i found out the hard way is that you should have the power on when adjusting the rods for the servos... otherwise the servo will not be centered when you surface are... and this will make a mess... i lost a brand new plane to this mistake
Thanks for the informative video guys! I'm just getting into the hobby now and every little bit helps!
I live in the Uk. I am the only one awake but of course had to stay up for flitetest !!!! :)
Chad, Josh & Josh and Crew,
Thanks for another great segment! A very informative piece with real meat on its bones for rc flyers.
No puff/fluff here! Very nice visuals and audio, too.
This is great info. for me now, as I am preparing to maiden my first RC build, a Hobby King Ryan STA.
Thanks & Best Regards,
John ( in the Great Smoky Mountains)
SUBSCRIBED!
He's saying that you can tell if your rudder is centered from a ground launch because if the rudder is not straight, then the plane will pull one way or another on takeoff. However, with a hand launch there is no way to check for rudder trim without flying because the rudder is not connected to the ground via a tail wheel or skid. Hope this helps!
Nice work flite test once again . BTW have you got any news on the blender plane plans
Hey Guys, i absolutely love your videos and i am just getting into this hobby, I have made a 6ch plane and im a decent pilot... or so i thought until i crashed, but could you please review the spektrum line of transmitters? i want to get the DX6i so if you could review that, i know it would help me and a lot of other beginners looking for a good first or second transmitter.
Good video. Very informational for newbies.
Please review the Zephyr v70 EDF Glider from Hobby King next !!!!
Could you guys do a video about CG showing what happens when a plane is tail heavy vs nose heavy? It would also be informative to give tips on adjusting CG for certain aerobatic manuevers.
Yay i always get so happy whenever ai see a new flite test vid :D
DSLEXIC PILOT here, you talk about trimming in the air. Today I tried, when trimming elevator are the down clicks to make it go up? Or do up clicks make it go up?
Are most modern RC 4 channel planes trimmed pretty close already or are they guaranteed to crash out of the box? Thanks for your helpful videos.
How do you tell if you need aileron vs. rudder trim if you have a hand-launched plane, since both rudder and aileron can induce roll?
Agreed ... Was expecting the team to go over this question
if it rolls drastic on launch it's aileron, if it turns on launch it's rudder
I think showing the crew is a good idea. It gives thew show a more documentary style.
How can you tell whether the aileron is turning the plane and not the rudder?
I totally agree. I think the crew of flite test use their website and forums to respond.
nice, trimming is a very important topic, especially for beginners like me
In fact, the most dangerous thing is reversed controls. Even if surfaces are not perfectly centered, you could counteract with sticks and trim them. However, if controls are reversed by accident (or by your friend Josh), no one is able to fly even for a few seconds (why? for example, look for 'reverse bike' at youtube). Many transmitters don't have reverse switches under your finders, but hidden in the menu, so you can't switch them in the fly. So, check EAR with REVERSE as well.
Now isn't there a method for checking trim prior to take off for total nob beginners? Wouldn't you want to make sure the control surfaces were in a neutral (centered) position as part of a pre-flight?
:38 wow what a boss cameraman holding the boom mic between his legs!
Thumbs up for sarcasm...
I also kinda fly with not very good trim its trimmed a bit but I also keep the sticks at trim it seems to work out for me with just the basic trim
Thank You for an informative and will done video. Great JOB!
hey is it ok if i charge my batteries in a metal box rather than a lipo safty bag
just to be safe
i oredered the f22 parts the day the video came out and there still not all herer yet.. i ordered a 5pack of propellers and they were instock and its benn almost 3 weeks and they still havent shipped from your warehouse.... i know you all are not that busy whats the deal with HK orders taking a months to ship and a month to 45 days to arive?
What episode was the big crash from?
after i have posted that, i just realized theres an easier way ... a sort of 'trigger' button at the back of the transmitter that can be pushed independently of the thumbs or index fingers that you use to move the sticks, depending on your style .... basically, you provide the inputs necessary to get the plane flying level, then you press the 'trigger' with a free finger, and your stick positions will be the new zero points
on second thought this might require alot of concentration and skill ...
I like your idea, but it is not necessary to send data back. It could be a unit between the receiver and servos that will reads gyros measurements and adjusts the signal to servos accordingly. It should operate in 2 modes. 1) A pilot rises a plane as high as possible, presses a button and drops sticks, and the unit gets corrections needed to zero gyros. 2) Normal mode, when these corrections are applied to output signal to servos.
also are you going to do something special for your 200th episode?
So what are actual signs for when you need to trim a part of the plane? Eg when do I need to trim right aliron
In this time of Internet video, the audience is starting to care more and more about the "behind the scenes" cast. Even though Josh and Josh are the stars of flitetest, it's nice to see and once in a while hear from the crew, because in a small crew like this they're all typically colleagues and friends.
Why these video age restricted
@FuttFel We'll always mix beginner videos with more advanced videos. That way we tackle all skill levels all the time. Chronological order would only work for the people who started flying right when Flitetest began :)
Because the aileron doesn't turn the plane. The aileron only rolls the plane and without elevator input that's all aileron will do. Rudder will yaw, roll and "turn" the plane.
heres a little wish that i have.... telemetry and gyros on the plane sending data back down to the trasmitter ... center the sticks and push a button, and the transmitter autosets its trim until the gyros are not reading any more rotation on the plane
Nice, good info for the newbies like me.
They already have a CG video.
so trimming it in air is better the eyeing it up on level ground?
You have to do both. It's easier in the air because you can see its reaction.
Yes. You just want something to contain the flames should it get to that point.
In my 9x (er9x fw) I just "hold it" level with the sticks, flip a switch, let go the sticks and, smack bang, the radio "has trimmed" it for me.
I don't mean to sound rude but this isn't a good vid. I think most people (even beginners) know how to trim a plane. However 3:56 is the best landing i have ever seen any of you guys do. Really smooth and gentle.
nice landing!
Great info.guys,your doing an awesome job thanks keep um coming.
ya, but most people who build scratch builds make sure their wings are balanced and their cg is spot on before the maiden.
He says that at exact statement at right around 1:54
Man Law !------No flip flops unless your on the beach !!! LOL !!
I don't get what he's saying about hand launching at 1:35
How high is "3 mistakes" high?
You make 3 mistakes and you will still be flying
You make 3 mistakes and you will still be flying
nice tips
Poor form trimming ailerons before rudder IMO. Rudder trim depends wildly on airspeed and should be trimmed first. Then elevator and ailerons last. If you trim ailerons first you will be trimming the plane to maintain uncoordinated flight. This can be really dangerous at low speed in a skidding turn. Cross control stall in the landing pattern would likely be catastrophic
awsome vid guys thanks! wish i would have watched it before me first ever flight!
also a small tip for anyone who is a beginner and is going to go up for their first flight...
DO NOT fly anywhere where there is a pond or lake near by! because you will inevidably end up in it!!! no damage to the airframe but i blew out my esc after about a 2min flight!
Ohhh okay thank you. I understand now.
EAR [E]levator [A]ileron[ [R]udder. Thank you for this video
Reverse elevator is a bummer at WOT.
Please make more videos that can help the begginers
Um, Elevator, Aileron and Rudder... You didn't think of EAR to help us remember? :P
you'd think that the tx is more important than some shoulders
I'm in belguim and its 0;26 am
i think they have to wait for it to arrive. that's why its taking a bit.
how high is 1 mistake...
Nothing but helpful
Love it...
4:12 he definitely hit the switch with his thumb on purpose there xD
that's what you get for fuckin my trim WAYYY more than was necessary xD
2:32. Anyone else notice the weird wowwww noise?
Actually more like 150 - 300 feet
200th video coming up
my airplanes crash before they even get to 1/2 mistake high
Very helpful, but I am watching it after I have crashed 5 planes.. 🥺
this would be better directed at either the "hobbykinglive" channel or hobbyking themselves. flitetest just make videos.
Um.....must be an advanced version. I didn't learn anything....
1:17, PUT your microphone back IN YOUR PANTS
Great video, I try to learn something new every day. No to go practice on my super sky surfer.
Totally useless, why don't you have a close up of the transmitter controls when you trim, or even show which buttons trim what part of the plane ?.
I guess so :)
First like a boss
aaaaa super
FORTH
I don't get it. What's with the garbage overtitling? Complete rubbish and spoils the basic video message.
This is no help
I agree
Why don't you show your fingers on the trim switches, you don't even say what way to move the switches.......This is useless.