This is the third time I have watched this video. It still blows my mind. That is a nice gun. It shoots a few loads in that benchrest group range. You nailed this one.
I'm such a novice at reloading in that I haven't even purchased everything to reload but I'm reading, studying and watching videos from individual like yourself and all I can say is WOW. What you put into this project is phenomenal. Your results and attention to detail is amazing. Keep bring out these videos. Thank You
Don't expect to get 'all of your reloading gear' all at once...you accumulate it over time...I bought an RCBS Rockchucker press in 72 from the post Rod & Gun Club in Germany...I started teloading when I got home in"74...took me the next 40 years to accumulate all my 'dtuff'...dies, presses, etc...this hobby is time consuming..you simply have to Love fiddling around with case prep, load development etc...try to find used equipment...most of the stuff is hardly used...guys buy stuff nut lose interest and wives tell them to sell it...get a bunch of reloading manuals and a good balance beam scale...I still have the one I bought in '02...the gold standard...
Actions speak loud and clear. You painted a great picture of all the single stage presses you have but the table fixture on that forster is growing roots on your bench. So the best one to start with for reloading towards ELR. Because damn that's a tight group.
Phenomenal results with a very measured approach. I look forward to seeing data collected from the 600 and 1000 yard tests. Wonderfully instructive and well done! Carry on! 😀
Man that’s an awesome shooter! I kinda expected it given the care you put into all aspects of the build and reloading. I’m SUPER stoked to see the long range results. Bravo!
gavintoobe learned so much watching do builds, and a scientific approach to the reloading process. Really inspiring man. Would love to do builds like you do
Man that is an amazing firearm!! Watching the bolt cycle with that much ease is awesome. And I can only imagine the gratification from getting results like that on something you built yourself. I can’t wait to see your long distance results. Nice work Gavin
Great video. I would love to see follow up with once fired brass and if you find the need to adjust charge weight all. Another thing would be to start tracking throat erosion (borescope images) vs round count and if/when you need to start chasing the lands.
Gavin I would love to see you do a video on the 6GT round George Gardner came up with. Its supposed to be like the dasher but feed better from the magazine.
My work buddy just mention the 6GT..It would be great if you could do a vid on that. Appreciate your channel. Saves everyone a heck of lot of time. Greatly appreciated.
I just can't wait to see the long range shooting videos. Don't be afraid to do some talking when you're on the range shooting! This series makes me want to spend money.
Your videos are always to the scientific point. I love that. Great info and looks like you built a keeper there. FYI I'm working up a load for 6.5 PRC in a carbon fiber wrapped barrel. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanx
Gavin I would love to see you do more of these super detailed load work-up videos like this but in other cartridges with various powders and components.
I used to shoot 32.5 grains of Varget with 105 Berger vld-target bullets out of my dasher. I shot a few 5 shot groups in the zeros with it and hardly ever seen a group over .2 unless I messed up. That rifle was a tack driver.
Hey Gavin, try shooting without using your glasses. I have seen them change the zero on the scope a bit. It is another optic in the path. It won't change it much, but it will make a tight group into a medium group.
People come up with new concepts in reloading and most of them are worth a try. What you've shown here with the 10 shot ladders seems to have some merit and looks worthwhile.
I really like the selection of reloading tools that you used. Thank you so much for making this video. I will donate to your patreon account the end of this week.
Looks very similar to what I found with the 105’s, I’m waiting to see what happens on the second firing of the brass with two weeks to dial everything in before a match in two weeks
Gavin, excellent video, and excellent results. I have a new dasher myself, really enjoying it. You have found the same nodes I have with the same bullets. I have found the choice between the 105's and 109's to be a difficult one. I shoot F-class Mid-range (600 yards). Extensive testing has shown the 105's are slightly better in ES and SD BUT,,, the 109's have a much better water line at 600 yards, (20 shot groups) I shoot on a private range with a Shot Marker for practice. The scoring is about equal between the two bullets, depending on how I am shooting, either can score better on a given day. I will probably settle on the 109's due to the water line aspect as well as ballistics advantage at 600 yards. Now for the criticism, You seem to want to be all things reloading to all people, I can understand that. BUT, that negates follow-up on projects already released. This video was released over 4 months ago, you have released nearly 40 video's since then, none of which were the promised follow up on the dasher long range testing. This seems to negate your stated enthusiasm of the dasher build, and has a negative affect on followers who look forward to completion of your projects. I can definitely wait on evaluation of dies and case prep tools and rangefinders to see your final results on the dasher, or are you now into the ARC? Just one mans opinion.
Gavin, love the 6 Dasher! My first were are you getting Varget every place I go they are out! I have not found it since last year. I've been think of building a 6 Dasher for some time. Now I just may have to step it up! love the videos!!!!!!
You are living my dream. 6 dashed 👍 42 years loading on and off. I'm slowly working on a savage 10t. 6 creedmore. I have broke in barrel, Polished bore, fire formed lapua cases 8 twist I purchased 107gr. Midway blend. I found 1-2 gr. Weight variation. Do you think I would be wasting my time developing loads with them. Or should I just use them for plinking? How have you determined twist to weight choice for bullets? Have you actually tested to find your rifles fit for accuracy?
Gavin, Great results! Just something to think about, brass is very critical to accuracy, grab a small bath mat to place on your bench so that brass isn’t bouncing on concrete! Andy
Gavin great video. I've been shooting Dasher at Ridgway Rifle Club matches for a couple years now and it’s a great round. You may want to try CCI 450 primers. We run 32.8g of Varget and 450's hold up better with the higher load no flattening or piercing. BR-4 would give us a larger ES. I don't know that much about PRS if you reuse your brass. But in Benchrest our brass is very precious to us. If you can keep your brass try leaving the carbon in the neck. It acts as a lube and make for a more consistent bullet release. ie. lower ES. Can't wait to see what kind of groups you get at long range. We only shoot silhouettes so I've never put mine on paper at range.
Well 6 Dasher has about 25% less case volume compared to 6.5 Creedmoor so your barrel will shoot better for longer. Also your loads have excellent avg velocities. The grouping is excellent at .21. you have a winning combo here. The big test is taking it at and beyond 1000yrds. It will be interesting to see what that cartridge will do with a heavier bullet and your loads for distance. As always thank you for the great videos!
Love your work! I have one comment. Look at where your right hand is when seating primers. You have a big note about eyes and ears but you hand is in a real bad spot. I know it is rare but primers do let loose on occasion. Keep up the great content.
Thank you for this video. When you ran the shots over your chronograph then entered the data into your PC what program did you use to construct the graph? Have you done a video where you take your data and show how to analyze it? Great channel I'm learning so much from you.
Hi Gavin , some great results there with the Dasher , you’ve done a great job with the rifle build looking forward to more , I also wanted to say and with the upmost respect with the chronoGraph reading time at 21.28min I don’t know if you realised the FPS showed a difference of 22fps and the Standard deviation was 8.1 you can change that setting in the magneto menu to read in FPS or SD , sorry just wanted to point that out but still great results none the less 👍👍
Great Series on 6mm D, the results are fantastic. Maybe the manufacturers take notice and produce a budget rifle on this cartridge (Savage, Ruger, etc.). Looking forward to the next installment. One last thing, get a Labradar, although the numbers (fps) are the same as the MS(I tested), not having any interference with the barrel or adjusting after a shot makes it worth every penny. IMHO.
Thanks for all of the great content Gavin! Quick question for you. Can you comment on the recoil between the Dasher and Creedmoor? Noticeable...Not very noticeable? Thanks!
Insane, keep up the great work 💪💪💪 I would be very interested to see the results on a LNL AP running full progressive, case feeder, bullet feeder priming and seating. The amount of ammo we shoot in a season is compared to time behind the bench is crazy. Keep up the great work 💪💪💪
Great rifle build, wonderful results. One question if you were going to replace your chronograph which one would you choose? Thanks again for the great video.
Forster dies are very very good dies and affordable and very over looked. just for fun try Fed 205M head to head with the CCI primers every time i have had the Fed primers come out on top for accuracy. also you may want to try some 115 DTAC bullets in the Dasher and see how they do. start at around 35 gr of H-4350 powder you'll be surprised how fast you can safely push them, the 115 bullets offer a distinct advantage over the 105s in the wind and should stabilize in a 1-8 twist barrel and they are a real bargain price wise as compared to other bullets.
I'm glad you tried that node after all. I'm wondering about the unexplored node with the 109 grain bullets. I know you're looking more for a "flat spot," but I'm reminded of something I learned in an applied math class about stability of a dynamic system and that looks like a good spot. (Im not an experienced reloader so there's probably lots you know that I don't. But still, im curious!)
I have shoot against dasher ,me using my target 300 win mag ..If it’s a still day I got no hope in the world ,,but if the wind picks up I got a good chance ..The dasher is a hell of a round 👍
i have a load i use in a 300 RUM that is remington brass, AR2225/retumbo powder, federal gold match large mag primers, hornady 208AMAX projectiles that are coated in HBN powder. they gave two 5 shot strings shot 6 months apart with an extreme spread of 5 fps the powder was weighed out to 0.02 gr difference between rounds. the average speed was 3232 fps
Did you had any feeding issues with the MDT Magazine? Planing a similar build and the reliability of this special MDT magazine is decisive for choosing THE caliber to go with.
Gavin, what is that rifle rest your using in this video? By the way, thank you for this great resource! I’m planning on developing a 6 dasher load for the ‘22 season, so this was just great!
I would like to see a vertical dispersion comparison for the 105 vs 109 Bergers at long range. To see if the 109 really has a more consistent BC as Berger claims.
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This is the third time I have watched this video. It still blows my mind. That is a nice gun. It shoots a few loads in that benchrest group range. You nailed this one.
Thanks, I love the rifle too! Always enjoy shooting it!
Those are some really outstanding results brother. Always a pleasure to watch and see all the fine minuet details. 👍
Good to hear from you Kenny, thanks bro!
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Your edits are fantastic. Thanks for the time you spend on the content.
Wow. Gavin you made an amazingly accurate rifle and ammo combination. Piet must be chomping for his Dasher to get to him!!!
Yes, I know he is!
I'm such a novice at reloading in that I haven't even purchased everything to reload but I'm reading, studying and watching videos from individual like yourself and all I can say is WOW. What you put into this project is phenomenal. Your results and attention to detail is amazing. Keep bring out these videos. Thank You
Don't expect to get 'all of your reloading gear' all at once...you accumulate it over time...I bought an RCBS Rockchucker press in 72 from the post Rod & Gun Club in Germany...I started teloading when I got home in"74...took me the next 40 years to accumulate all my 'dtuff'...dies, presses, etc...this hobby is time consuming..you simply have to Love fiddling around with case prep, load development etc...try to find used equipment...most of the stuff is hardly used...guys buy stuff nut lose interest and wives tell them to sell it...get a bunch of reloading manuals and a good balance beam scale...I still have the one I bought in '02...the gold standard...
The biggest and best thing you can do. Is set a goal, stick to it and do not move on until you complete that goal
What goals are you referring to?
That is one of the most impressive reloading videos I have ever seen. Congratulations on that load development. WOW!
Thanks 👍
Actions speak loud and clear. You painted a great picture of all the single stage presses you have but the table fixture on that forster is growing roots on your bench. So the best one to start with for reloading towards ELR. Because damn that's a tight group.
Absolutely awesome rifle build and accuracy Gavin . I can’t wait to see how it shoots at 600 and 1000 yards .
That is utterly ridiculous. Just the precision of that 6mm is awesome and really appreciate the time, effort, and knowledge conveyed in this video.
Phenomenal results with a very measured approach. I look forward to seeing data collected from the 600 and 1000 yard tests. Wonderfully instructive and well done! Carry on! 😀
Thank you!
My friend you are an scientist on reloading bullets thank you for sharing this excellent video
You are too kind, thanks for watching!
Happy to see the 6 dasher worked out for you
You ve got a winner. There isn't t a lot out there that will shoot that good
Thanks Michael!
Your 6dasher series couldn’t come at a better time. Got a dasher spinning up right now.
Awesome results Gavin! I'm glad you finally got it dialed in 👍 That rifle is Sweet 😍
THANKS!!! I love this rifle.
I can tell by the sound of the action that it is super smooth. That is one super accurate rifle. Another success and you make it look so easy!
Man that’s an awesome shooter! I kinda expected it given the care you put into all aspects of the build and reloading. I’m SUPER stoked to see the long range results. Bravo!
Production and editing is on point. Loving the content
THANK YOU! It's sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much work, great to have people appreciate the editing!
gavintoobe learned so much watching do builds, and a scientific approach to the reloading process. Really inspiring man. Would love to do builds like you do
My gunsmith built me a 6 dasher. Did a "ladder test" and shot near .3 moa group. Impressive cartridge.
Wow Gavin! Congrats. I am really looking forward to the next video. Keep the coming thanks.
Man that is an amazing firearm!! Watching the bolt cycle with that much ease is awesome. And I can only imagine the gratification from getting results like that on something you built yourself. I can’t wait to see your long distance results. Nice work Gavin
Those standard deviations are incredible!
Ive been looking at 6 dasher for a while and this vid convinced me,,,great vid and shooting.
get a good barrel first then dasher..I recommend a brux 4 gr 28 inch or more..with the right freebore and throat angle
Awesome job. Love the way you developed your load and the way you explained it
Great video as usual. Thx. Also interested to see you do 6gt
Extraordinary! I would for one like to see what the groups look like at distance. Thank you for the video.
To help your targets not get beat up by plywood backing what I’ve learned is to use a piece of cardboard between it and the paper target
Great video. I would love to see follow up with once fired brass and if you find the need to adjust charge weight all. Another thing would be to start tracking throat erosion (borescope images) vs round count and if/when you need to start chasing the lands.
Amazing 👏 results. The effort gets rewarded!
You are the King of this business!!
That Berger 105gr shooting was crazy accurate at a .090 moa. Wow!
Gavin I would love to see you do a video on the 6GT round George Gardner came up with. Its supposed to be like the dasher but feed better from the magazine.
My work buddy just mention the 6GT..It would be great if you could do a vid on that. Appreciate your channel. Saves everyone a heck of lot of time. Greatly appreciated.
I just can't wait to see the long range shooting videos. Don't be afraid to do some talking when you're on the range shooting! This series makes me want to spend money.
Your videos are always to the scientific point. I love that. Great info and looks like you built a keeper there. FYI I'm working up a load for 6.5 PRC in a carbon fiber wrapped barrel. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanx
I appreciate what you are accomplishing. Anytime you would like to go head to head with an old CZ 452 17 hmr ,100 yds 5 shots in WV Give a holler.
Great video! I love my dasher. My load is 32.7gr over the 105 berger. Looks like your gun liked that as well with great sd's.
Great material. Can't wait till the long range info comes out.
Way to stack them in there, Gavin 👍
First I would like to thank you for sharing all of your knowledge with us and secondly that was some great shooting brother
Gavin I would love to see you do more of these super detailed load work-up videos like this but in other cartridges with various powders and components.
I used to shoot 32.5 grains of Varget with 105 Berger vld-target bullets out of my dasher. I shot a few 5 shot groups in the zeros with it and hardly ever seen a group over .2 unless I messed up. That rifle was a tack driver.
Hey Gavin, try shooting without using your glasses. I have seen them change the zero on the scope a bit. It is another optic in the path. It won't change it much, but it will make a tight group into a medium group.
Impressive results, look forward to your testing at 1000 yards!
People come up with new concepts in reloading and most of them are worth a try. What you've shown here with the 10 shot ladders seems to have some merit and looks worthwhile.
I'm amazed. Great job with the build and load development.
Good video. I don't shoot 6 dasher, but I do reload. The equipment evaluation was important for me.
Crazy groups with breaking your cheek weld each time
Wow, great video and a beautiful rifle. I’m building a dasher now and can make good use of this information for load development.
Thank you! I hope your build goes really well!
Very nice shooting. Rifle looks awesome.
Great shooting! I've been thinking of getting a magnetospeed. Did you notice a POI shift when it was attached?
I really like the selection of reloading tools that you used. Thank you so much for making this video. I will donate to your patreon account the end of this week.
Looks very similar to what I found with the 105’s, I’m waiting to see what happens on the second firing of the brass with two weeks to dial everything in before a match in two weeks
Winner winner chicken dinner. I learned a lot. Thanks.
Gavin, excellent video, and excellent results. I have a new dasher myself, really enjoying it. You have found the same nodes I have with the same bullets. I have found the choice between the 105's and 109's to be a difficult one. I shoot F-class Mid-range (600 yards). Extensive testing has shown the 105's are slightly better in ES and SD BUT,,, the 109's have a much better water line at 600 yards, (20 shot groups) I shoot on a private range with a Shot Marker for practice. The scoring is about equal between the two bullets, depending on how I am shooting, either can score better on a given day. I will probably settle on the 109's due to the water line aspect as well as ballistics advantage at 600 yards.
Now for the criticism, You seem to want to be all things reloading to all people, I can understand that. BUT, that negates follow-up on projects already released. This video was released over 4 months ago, you have released nearly 40 video's since then, none of which were the promised follow up on the dasher long range testing. This seems to negate your stated enthusiasm of the dasher build, and has a negative affect on followers who look forward to completion of your projects. I can definitely wait on evaluation of dies and case prep tools and rangefinders to see your final results on the dasher, or are you now into the ARC?
Just one mans opinion.
outstanding testing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gavin, love the 6 Dasher! My first were are you getting Varget every place I go they are out! I have not found it since last year. I've been think of building a 6 Dasher for some time. Now I just may have to step it up! love the videos!!!!!!
Was going to say the same thing about Varget. He must have been stockpiling....
Nice work! Sure looks like a sweet shooter!
You are living my dream. 6 dashed 👍 42 years loading on and off. I'm slowly working on a savage 10t. 6 creedmore. I have broke in barrel, Polished bore, fire formed lapua cases 8 twist
I purchased 107gr. Midway blend. I found 1-2 gr. Weight variation. Do you think I would be wasting my time developing loads with them. Or should I just use them for plinking? How have you determined twist to weight choice for bullets? Have you actually tested to find your rifles fit for accuracy?
Gavin,
Great results! Just something to think about, brass is very critical to accuracy, grab a small bath mat to place on your bench so that brass isn’t bouncing on concrete!
Andy
Love it when a plan comes together lol.
Taking me back to my childhood! :)
Outstanding shooting I would be ecstatic with the loads and the rifle! Have you posted what a custom rifle like that would cost to have built?
You picked up and dropped the PRCs pretty quick
Gavin great video. I've been shooting Dasher at Ridgway Rifle Club matches for a couple years now and it’s a great round. You may want to try CCI 450 primers. We run 32.8g of Varget and 450's hold up better with the higher load no flattening or piercing. BR-4 would give us a larger ES. I don't know that much about PRS if you reuse your brass. But in Benchrest our brass is very precious to us. If you can keep your brass try leaving the carbon in the neck. It acts as a lube and make for a more consistent bullet release. ie. lower ES. Can't wait to see what kind of groups you get at long range. We only shoot silhouettes so I've never put mine on paper at range.
Well 6 Dasher has about 25% less case volume compared to 6.5 Creedmoor so your barrel will shoot better for longer. Also your loads have excellent avg velocities. The grouping is excellent at .21. you have a winning combo here. The big test is taking it at and beyond 1000yrds. It will be interesting to see what that cartridge will do with a heavier bullet and your loads for distance. As always thank you for the great videos!
I been waiting for this one Gavin! 😁
And here it is!!!!
Awesome stuff, I'm guessing this will be for match only? No hunting application for such a precious firearm.
Love your work! I have one comment. Look at where your right hand is when seating primers. You have a big note about eyes and ears but you hand is in a real bad spot. I know it is rare but primers do let loose on occasion. Keep up the great content.
I envy your progress. All though don't miss a quality annealing process.
Thank you for this video. When you ran the shots over your chronograph then entered the data into your PC what program did you use to construct the graph? Have you done a video where you take your data and show how to analyze it? Great channel I'm learning so much from you.
Hi Gavin , some great results there with the Dasher , you’ve done a great job with the rifle build looking forward to more , I also wanted to say and with the upmost respect with the chronoGraph reading time at 21.28min I don’t know if you realised the FPS showed a difference of 22fps and the Standard deviation was 8.1 you can change that setting in the magneto menu to read in FPS or SD , sorry just wanted to point that out but still great results none the less 👍👍
Great Series on 6mm D, the results are fantastic. Maybe the manufacturers take notice and produce a budget rifle on this cartridge (Savage, Ruger, etc.). Looking forward to the next installment. One last thing, get a Labradar, although the numbers (fps) are the same as the MS(I tested), not having any interference with the barrel or adjusting after a shot makes it worth every penny. IMHO.
Do you only use the mandrel on new brass? Great shooting by the way. That thing is a hammer.
Thanks for all of the great content Gavin! Quick question for you. Can you comment on the recoil between the Dasher and Creedmoor? Noticeable...Not very noticeable? Thanks!
Less with the Dasher- I do hope to measure it soon!
What do I think ? I think you have no excuses not to win. No pressure.
Your 6 Dasher videos are making it really hard to not build a 6 Dasher lol
Insane, keep up the great work 💪💪💪 I would be very interested to see the results on a LNL AP running full progressive, case feeder, bullet feeder priming and seating. The amount of ammo we shoot in a season is compared to time behind the bench is crazy. Keep up the great work 💪💪💪
Great Start!!!❤️🤍💙
Great rifle build, wonderful results. One question if you were going to replace your chronograph which one would you choose? Thanks again for the great video.
Great stuff! Thanks.
Forster dies are very very good dies and affordable and very over looked. just for fun try Fed 205M head to head with the CCI primers every time i have had the Fed primers come out on top for accuracy. also you may want to try some 115 DTAC bullets in the Dasher and see how they do. start at around 35 gr of H-4350 powder you'll be surprised how fast you can safely push them, the 115 bullets offer a distinct advantage over the 105s in the wind and should stabilize in a 1-8 twist barrel and they are a real bargain price wise as compared to other bullets.
Great shooting
Gavin, pretty sweet rig and some nice shooting ...........so what's next ??
You are living my dream.
Great stuff, looking forward to see your next vid. Keep up your great work :)
I'm glad you tried that node after all. I'm wondering about the unexplored node with the 109 grain bullets. I know you're looking more for a "flat spot," but I'm reminded of something I learned in an applied math class about stability of a dynamic system and that looks like a good spot. (Im not an experienced reloader so there's probably lots you know that I don't. But still, im curious!)
I have shoot against dasher ,me using my target 300 win mag ..If it’s a still day I got no hope in the world ,,but if the wind picks up I got a good chance ..The dasher is a hell of a round 👍
I live in Eastern washington...I'd love to come visit the shop some day.
Eastern Washington here also .
Well done video. You are becoming quite good at this. Do you live in the Rockys?
Gavin have you done a bullet seating depth test? Erik Cortina talks extensively about this. Thx!
Well done! Obviously I can not produce the barrel you made. Can I buy that barrel built to spec?
i have a load i use in a 300 RUM that is remington brass, AR2225/retumbo powder, federal gold match large mag primers, hornady 208AMAX projectiles that are coated in HBN powder.
they gave two 5 shot strings shot 6 months apart with an extreme spread of 5 fps the powder was weighed out to 0.02 gr difference between rounds. the average speed was 3232 fps
Great job!
What happened to the ATN X-Sight????
Did you had any feeding issues with the MDT Magazine? Planing a similar build and the reliability of this special MDT magazine is decisive for choosing THE caliber to go with.
Gavin, what is that rifle rest your using in this video? By the way, thank you for this great resource! I’m planning on developing a 6 dasher load for the ‘22 season, so this was just great!
I would like to see a vertical dispersion comparison for the 105 vs 109 Bergers at long range. To see if the 109 really has a more consistent BC as Berger claims.
Hey Gavin, have you had a chance to see what happened at 600 yds? Looking forward to seeing what you found out. Keep up the great videos
when are you going to the video on bedding the scope rings?
Your Co-Ax needs increased access side plates. Joshua Badeau on the Forster Co-Ax FB page makes a great set. Makes using the Co-Ax so much nicer.