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Bruh, they really went to make other chars more viable, but instead buffed the meta ones even harder. Best effects for snipers, as if they arent the best units already.
@@anarkami Nah, It's SBS by a mile. Alice/RH only against 2 bosses that have a hidden core that only pierce can hit, because that more than triples their damage.
@@xGodWontSaveUx It's a toss up between them. If the boss has parts, an exposed core, and or Lightining/Wind coded then RH/Alice usually do more damage. If the boss has no core, minimal/no parts, and or is Iron coded. On my account, my SBS always does more damage than RH. Alice sometimes outshines SBS, but SBS is a lot more consistent in being MVP.
So my decision to give RH and SBS the dolls first is a good idea. Thats great to know i might have to spend some rss for alice cause i think i need her now due to lack of III burst 3 dps.
@@RelaxItNELEXYT while true, u cant really say top 3 pvp teams, cuz u only EVER need 3 teams (until maybe champion comes out), but ya, id say shes tier 2 in pvp, noah biscuit still better in most scenarios.
@niajef hahaha your right, though it really does depend on the comp that noah team gets destroyed by an Emilia team or any team that does multi hits with Blanc like BS scarlet or Summer Anis. Teams where Noah and biscuit are strong against easily are versus scarlet one-shot teams or single target multi shot team like redhood or Alice.
Blanc is my main, so I went all out for her I don't care if she's not priority. Though for Pvp, she is now a unkillble before burst guaranteed the full burst without needing to use biscuit.
The way I see it, her S2 was not supposed to work for her laser in the first place, so fixing this would only nerf her... I'd love if she got both effects at the same time, but ShiftUp knows we can't have nice things.
@@Kaylas1821 Perfomance wise, my Laplace is already nipping at the heels of my invested MLBed Alice and 0 core (but fully invested) RH (with her own SR doll to boot.) My Laplace favorite item is at phase 2 and her burst is only at 6 but I can already tell she's easily going to be right up there with RH damage wise. RH is still a more versatile unit, but I imagine at equal investment, Laplace will be equal or like only like 1-2% less damage than RH. She's so good, she replace Mod in one of my UR teams.
Invest on R to 15 then replace to SR5(no XP loss) is way more efficient than start from SR0 which need more rare parts to make a success chance. So equip R is not hurt and consider the combine option for dolls that you don’t need anymore.
About the doll system, is a sr upgraded from r the same as an original sr? I think I saw somewhere that you could benefit from uprading a r instead of giving a straight sr.
So far you can get some in solo raid No other content to get them or if you willing to buy the 2 new 2nd anniversary skins which have a box each of getting a random rarity doll also keep in mind that not only is it random rarity the dolls must be equipped to a specific weapon type
R will save you some exp when you transform it to SR so use R on units that you make sure transform it to SR and also phase 15 it. use SR doll on units that you want the passive asap aka SR doll on tank units in pvp
I still think this doll nonsense is stupid. The treasure system was meant to buff trash units to at least playable status instead of buffing the meta units to super meta. Exia, Diesel, Laplace and Frima will still get buried now that all the best Nikke have ascended too.
I mean, implementing the doll function is impossible to do without involving the meta character unless you want the function to be only the favorite gift with the boat load of grinding for characters that doesn't really replace the current meta characters. How I see it is that if you like a certain out of date character like Laplace, you can make her viable, not the most meta defining, but at the very least usable. Character I would like to use would be venti as she was my first SSR DPS I literally max limit broke her and overloaded for her numbers to be beaten by my single copy Bunny Soda 💀
@@nicksteadman6823 In a way yes but at the same time no. For Tribe Tower maybe but everywhere else they'll get slaughtered like mid-late campaign, PvP, the Raids who everyone prioritizes the best Nikkes if they have them. Nobody still uses these characters and would choose their main team/PvP line-up over them any day of the week . Not to mention the resources are a pain to get currently without blowing tons of gems or getting extremely lucky.
@@RelaxItNELEXYT I mean the Treasure System was developed with the trash units in mind to get them up to snuff. What's the point in investing in them by farming additional materials, reaching LB2 and a Rank 30 Bond Rank when the dolls can already be slapped on the best units that will actually carry you further into the game or hold off strong PvP teams? The fact that Shift Down has other Nikke planned in 2 month intervals is also stupid as every Nikke including the Meta will be far too strong for them to make a difference.
@@redalert199 I know some gamers who don’t care about meta and will use their favorites no matter what. It depends but it’s a buff across the board as far as I see it. Agreed tho it is a lot of resources.
got top 13 in solo raid with my scuffed PC >:U
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Updated Doll Tier list v2 (minor update from the video) NOTE TO USE THIS URL AS ANY FUTURE UPDATE WILL BE UPDATED IN THIS IMGUR ALBUM LINK: imgur.com/a/mdOwOKY
Just a suggestion maybe link the tier list and video in your Nikke Unit Build Guid spreadsheet so maybe more people see it or find it when needed
Bruh, they really went to make other chars more viable, but instead buffed the meta ones even harder. Best effects for snipers, as if they arent the best units already.
Very true with current best Dps being Alice and Redhood with their pierce mechanics.
Actually, the best DPS in the game is Scarlet (bs) ☝️🤓
@@xGodWontSaveUx Nah, is still Red Hood
@@anarkami Nah, It's SBS by a mile. Alice/RH only against 2 bosses that have a hidden core that only pierce can hit, because that more than triples their damage.
@@xGodWontSaveUx It's a toss up between them. If the boss has parts, an exposed core, and or Lightining/Wind coded then RH/Alice usually do more damage. If the boss has no core, minimal/no parts, and or is Iron coded.
On my account, my SBS always does more damage than RH. Alice sometimes outshines SBS, but SBS is a lot more consistent in being MVP.
For the algorithm
Thanks Mr.Sky
Thx a lot, doll systems a bit convoluted at points and this really helps.
Thanks as always boss, a good follow-up with the doll upgrading video
glad to see I was following the right train of thought, although i mainly just gave dolls to my main pve team which is crown, liter, naga red hood
Red Hood and Lap for me highest priorities. SBS can wait.
PS: Isabel needs a treasure man. Amazing design held back by a shitty kit.
I want the MG doll to just upgrade and cap the fps issue at this point haha 😂
So my decision to give RH and SBS the dolls first is a good idea. Thats great to know i might have to spend some rss for alice cause i think i need her now due to lack of III burst 3 dps.
if pascal is in pvp category, poli should also be there, shes used way more than pascal
If anything, they should have added Blanc in that list for Pvp she's one of the top three meta pvp teams
@@RelaxItNELEXYT while true, u cant really say top 3 pvp teams, cuz u only EVER need 3 teams (until maybe champion comes out), but ya, id say shes tier 2 in pvp, noah biscuit still better in most scenarios.
@niajef hahaha your right, though it really does depend on the comp that noah team gets destroyed by an Emilia team or any team that does multi hits with Blanc like BS scarlet or Summer Anis.
Teams where Noah and biscuit are strong against easily are versus scarlet one-shot teams or single target multi shot team like redhood or Alice.
Blanc is my main, so I went all out for her I don't care if she's not priority.
Though for Pvp, she is now a unkillble before burst guaranteed the full burst without needing to use biscuit.
need an update with newer characters! also for rerolling OL gear!
Apparently phase 2 of laplace is bugged where the extra 10% conflicts with the basic dmg. So she deals less dmg.
The way I see it, her S2 was not supposed to work for her laser in the first place, so fixing this would only nerf her...
I'd love if she got both effects at the same time, but ShiftUp knows we can't have nice things.
I'm holding on to the smg ones, just in case they release a relevant smg dps.
Maxed RH without too much trouble, use her for everything. Just waiting on rng to give out more RL blue dolls.
My laplace is still in 1st phase of collection, and she's strong as Red hood already, imagine at max phase, she'll be going plus ultra
You mean cp wise? Not real performance wise?
@@Kaylas1821 Perfomance wise, my Laplace is already nipping at the heels of my invested MLBed Alice and 0 core (but fully invested) RH (with her own SR doll to boot.) My Laplace favorite item is at phase 2 and her burst is only at 6 but I can already tell she's easily going to be right up there with RH damage wise.
RH is still a more versatile unit, but I imagine at equal investment, Laplace will be equal or like only like 1-2% less damage than RH. She's so good, she replace Mod in one of my UR teams.
Do I wait until I get SR dolls, do I equip R or use them to combine for a chance to get more SRs?
Invest on R to 15 then replace to SR5(no XP loss) is way more efficient than start from SR0 which need more rare parts to make a success chance.
So equip R is not hurt and consider the combine option for dolls that you don’t need anymore.
About the doll system, is a sr upgraded from r the same as an original sr? I think I saw somewhere that you could benefit from uprading a r instead of giving a straight sr.
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What tier does Kilo end up on? I couldn't find her anywhere in this video.
Where is normal scarlet on that list?
Drunk Scarlet is not a meta unit and AR dolls are horrible so she is very low prio. (Found in the prio if nothing else tier)
shes "trash" now sad
@@KittenCritters Oh i m blind 😆thanks!
@@KittenCrittersimo regular scarlet still is an option if core hits are posible with targets being at close range
@@mementocitythe issue is that its situational vs the snipers that can just use the boosted shots no matter what
thanks 🙏
Thank you for this guide.
very cool. thank you
Does the doll farmable or just reward from the dev sometimes?
So far you can get some in solo raid
No other content to get them or if you willing to buy the 2 new 2nd anniversary skins which have a box each of getting a random rarity doll also keep in mind that not only is it random rarity the dolls must be equipped to a specific weapon type
is it better to start from a R doll or is it good to start with SR too?
R will save you some exp when you transform it to SR so use R on units that you make sure transform it to SR and also phase 15 it.
use SR doll on units that you want the passive asap aka SR doll on tank units in pvp
Thank you!
Hoping for Viper treasure.
Damn
Too late. All in on Exia.
Rip scar drunk😅
I still think this doll nonsense is stupid. The treasure system was meant to buff trash units to at least playable status instead of buffing the meta units to super meta.
Exia, Diesel, Laplace and Frima will still get buried now that all the best Nikke have ascended too.
But arent the buffed units not at least playable now tho?
I mean, implementing the doll function is impossible to do without involving the meta character unless you want the function to be only the favorite gift with the boat load of grinding for characters that doesn't really replace the current meta characters.
How I see it is that if you like a certain out of date character like Laplace, you can make her viable, not the most meta defining, but at the very least usable.
Character I would like to use would be venti as she was my first SSR DPS I literally max limit broke her and overloaded for her numbers to be beaten by my single copy Bunny Soda 💀
@@nicksteadman6823 In a way yes but at the same time no. For Tribe Tower maybe but everywhere else they'll get slaughtered like mid-late campaign, PvP, the Raids who everyone prioritizes the best Nikkes if they have them.
Nobody still uses these characters and would choose their main team/PvP line-up over them any day of the week . Not to mention the resources are a pain to get currently without blowing tons of gems or getting extremely lucky.
@@RelaxItNELEXYT I mean the Treasure System was developed with the trash units in mind to get them up to snuff. What's the point in investing in them by farming additional materials, reaching LB2 and a Rank 30 Bond Rank when the dolls can already be slapped on the best units that will actually carry you further into the game or hold off strong PvP teams?
The fact that Shift Down has other Nikke planned in 2 month intervals is also stupid as every Nikke including the Meta will be far too strong for them to make a difference.
@@redalert199 I know some gamers who don’t care about meta and will use their favorites no matter what. It depends but it’s a buff across the board as far as I see it. Agreed tho it is a lot of resources.
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