It is the unagi i paid 1000 for looks like a razor scooter compared to this i put them next to eachother and was so mad i bought an unagi two years ago
This looks like a good contender for the Apollo City that I was considering. I like the selectable single/double motor mode and significant lighting enhancements. Regen braking looks equivalent to the Apollo. The IPX rating is also great.
I bought a punk rider pro just two weeks ago and immediately started having issues. Left turn signal would go on randomly without me pushing the button, but when I pushed the button it wouldn’t turn on. Also, it would turn on when using the e brake. So I took out the handle bar to check the cabling and found the issue. The way the cables go into the stem is not very efficient, and when I screwed in the hex screws it pinched the cables and severed them. Upon removing the handle bar, the cables are severely severed and now the scooter won’t power on at all. Currently working on getting a warranty replacement.
Yah it’s a pretty massive block of wires you have to push into the stem. That’s really unfortunate about the severed wires. How has customer service been so far?
Hey there! back in 2020 I got an already used Mi m365 that has to be kicked to get up the hills here where I live. I realized with Christmas coming I should replace it. First time I bought a scooter I really didnt shop around but this time has been close to overwhelming! You helped me sooo much. Many thanks to you reviewers who go out there and sort out the good from the bad apples. A few days ago I was looking at the Vmax VX4, Teverun Blade Mini, an IO Hawk model... due to lack of water protection of the Blade Mini its out ( *correction* the Teverun Rep said IPX5.) The VX4 was close but not as convincing as the Punk Rider Pro(1400Euro/Germany) which I am now vying with the IO Hawk Phoenix(removable battery 1400 Euro/Germany).... feels like it's gonna be a close call! I loved my lil m365 but it's time for an UPGRADE! One of these two company's is gonna take my money!
Mine should be arriving tomorrow. Super excited and paid only $1000 for the Pro - caught it on sale and with additional discount code. Can’t beat that from its original $1499 MSRP.
Nice introduction review, Tom! From what I've seen, it looks like the fit and finish is above average. It falls into the price and weight territory of the VMAX VX4, this of course having dual motors and 32mph top speed rather than 25mph. I know motor designs are a compromise but I think VMAX went for torque and missed the mark with the top speed on the VX4. Even if the VX4 hit 28-30mph, I'd probably have one. It's great to see the Punk Rider actually achieve the 32mph mark! Something to really consider if it passes your testing measures. I've watched other reviews of this model but frankly, I didn't find many of them very objective. Freshly Charged did a respectable job however. I suspect that with the 936Wh battery, it will likely reach 35mi range at 20mph on mostly flat ground, fingers crossed. You're setting the new standard for scooter reviews, Tom.
Thanks man! I was surprised it hit 32mph as quick as it did. Sometimes scooters struggle to hit the stated max speed or can only do it on a fully charged battery. This one here will hit 32 even with 25% battery remaining. I’ll post the range test tomorrow and one of the hill climb tests likely a couple days later. It’s not without its faults, but so far it’s been a blast to ride.
@@tomsgadgetgarage That's impressive. I don't think any of my scooters will hit top speed on 25% battery. Actually, maybe the GX3 does because it's electronically limited to 38.5mph. I know it does at 50% so I'll have to try it at 25%. In any case, I'll be eager to see the range test as well as its imperfections. I'm looking for a medium range scooter like this for my brother. I don't know if it will be the Punk Rider or a Kukurin G2 Master, or a VX4 but the low speed limit might be a deal breaker on the VMAX. I heard that Voro will be introducing a new version of the Emove Cruiser too. I have no idea if it's a full redesign or an evolution but it's probably due for a full makeover. If it's good, I might get that, then pass the Cruiser S to my bro. It's such a nice riding scooter though, might be hard let go. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these reviews!
@Patriot36 check this out. Electric Scooter Academy has some info on the new E Move Cruiser th-cam.com/video/k9L8W3zQx4U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PO14BADaNc_8x1qM
@@tomsgadgetgarage Wow, thanks so much for linking that! Even some sneak peak pictures! That's really exciting. I can't wait to see more. I hope you get one too.
Thanks for this detailed review. What battery sells are in the Punk Rider Pro? Do you know if the handlebars could be swapped out for a standard mountain bike sized handlebar?
Hey! So I don’t know the specific brand of cells, but I know they use high density 21700 cells. As for the handlebar, it’s a pretty standard bike bar so I’m sure you can swap it out. Just know that they route a lot of the wiring though the bar and into the stem.
Seems like a very nice scooter. If considering this over a leopard pro which has more features as a commuter scooter would you still go with the pink pro or the leopard pro or even the updated gallop ?
My only complaint is the horn noise when changing modes or indicating. It needs the option to be disabled. Other than that, it looks perfect and I'm going to get one next.
Subscribed. Really interested in this scooter, but nervous on customer service and how easy it is to repair. Hopefully you can put a light on the DIY repairability of it
Hey! Thank you 😊. So the good news here is that they carry all the components for this scooter on their website. I did remove the bottom plate as well as the cover on the internal metal battery compartment and everything is plug and play.
Hello good video,, Thingking to get gt1 or inokim oxo or punk pro, i need somehting that safe to drive at night, Im live in melbourne, any suggestion whats best e scooter prize range
The Punk Rider Pro is going to standout a lot at night because of its lighting. And honestly that’s critical to safely riding at night. The GT1 is also a great option, but it’s bigger and heavier. I don’t have any experience with Inokim scooters yet so can’t weigh in on that one.
Wow, I just bought the fiido beast but I’m having a problem because it came scratched up. The company wants to give me $500 off. I told him I would accept it for 500 bucks. It’s not that bad but now I see this and now I’m upset I could’ve used the extra $500 towards this. This is beautiful.👍🏽
@@tomsgadgetgarage yes it’s a lot of fun not 100% stable with the steering wheel like that but it’s still a lot of fun. At least you have an option of sitting or standing but when I received this unit, the battery was scratched up so the company is gonna give me some money back I’m just a little concerned because this is an older unit. It’s been sitting on the shelf for three years.😮
Yikes, three years is a long time for batteries to sit idle. How much charge was on it when you received it? Definitely looks like an interesting scooter. $500 back sounds like a solid amount to get back. I wonder how the battery got scratched up.
@@tomsgadgetgaragei decided to send it back, even though I still have it they never sent me a shipping label yet and I also never got my full refund yet very shady company so far to deal with. It turns out even $500 was no good because the last day I decided to put it back in the box the keypad stopped working I could not access the battery. The thing was a total piece of garbage.
Nice! I’ve seen a lot of solid scooter reviews coming out of the Philippines. Are there lots of scooter riders there? If so, what are some of the more common scooters people ride around on?
Oh wow, I heard the Nami’s are excellent scooters. I plan to eventually test one out. I keep a small budget for scooter purchases for review but I’ll have to save up a bit as the Klimas are pricey. But I just checked and it looks like they just dropped the price quite a bit.
Im between the punk rider pro, mantis v2, inokin oxo, and apollo go for the price. Which would be your choice for city riding? mantis v2 is very much on sale right now
Hey! So I can’t speak to the Mantis V2 or the OXO, but both the Punk Rider Pro and the GO are zippy scooters that get up to speed quickly. The main advantage of the GO is its lighter weight and powerful front lights, but it gets less range and has a lower top speed than the Punk Rider Pro. Really depends on how important weight and portability are for you relative to speed and range. The Mantis V2 looks like it gives you more power and speed but less water resistance.
Thank you! I used the settings this gentleman recommends. It’s not perfect but it’s light years better than the hot garbage I was recording at night before making the changes haha. th-cam.com/video/-Aq-8NUv6I8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uDvB8cn0mROb1A2a
Bit of a random question but have you used the "Reset to Defualt" button in the tuning section of the app? My profile speeds dont matcch yours. Profile 1 (Eco) is 9mph and Profile 2 (Normal) is 15mph on mine instead of Eco (13 mph) Normal (20 mph) and the reset button is the only thing I can think of that might have changed them (According to Punk there is only 1 version of the firmware so no different region settings).
I haven’t used the reset to default option yet. I will check mine to see if there’s something that can be done to change the speeds. Does your app show a firmware version?
@@tomsgadgetgarage Its currently set to 40km/h but when I was checking the firmware I turned the "rocket" icon on so it was max speed. Profile 1 and 2 didnt change but profile 3 got up to 54km/h (wheels off the grounud test).
Well that’s progress. I’m not sure why you’d have different speeds for 1 & 2 though. Maybe they can fix it in another firmware update. I prefer the 13/20/32. 20 is my everyday cruising speed.
Nice review Tom. Is Punk affiliated with Apollo? I realize all escooter companies borrow ideas from one another and such but Punk are really pushing their luck.
Thanks! There’s no affiliation between the two to my knowledge. I’ve also spent an embarrassing amount of time looking at the Apollo Pro and Punk Rider Pro from a design perspective. There are similarities between the two, for example the accent lights and regenerative brake throttle as well as the style of the rear kick plate. The main body of the scooters are shaped differently, as are the neck, head unit, and suspension. Both have a futuristic design compared to nearly all other scooters on the market. I’d say 90% of scooters on the market fall into the category of “seen one, seen them all” from a design perspective. I believe both cater to very different audiences. The Apollo Pro comes with significantly more power and speed as well as premium features and a sleek design, whereas the Punk Rider Pro delivers aesthetics and solid specs (for the price, on paper) at a more accessible price point. I’m hoping to get both side by side in the near future, even though from a performance perspective these two are in completely different leagues.
nobody will ever use single motor on this thing .. only mode 3..amd like everyone said the lights are useless during the day unless its cloudy and not as sunny
Do not purchase this scooter. I order one, and it arrived damaged and when I created a ticket to resolve the damage they never responded. Terrible support, would not recommend.
Please keep us advised on whether or not Punk Scooters ever reached out to help you. I was going to purchase this scooter, but will definitely hold off until I hear more about how their good/bad their customer service is.
The two definitely have some similarities, but they aren't even remotely in the same class. The Apollo Pro is geared toward those wanting a more premium product with all the luxuries, performance, and price to match. On the other hand, the Punk Rider Pro is for those looking to get a higher-performance scooter than your typical commuter scooter for a decent price. I don't think buyers of the Apollo Pro are realistically considering the Punk Rider as an alternative, but maybe Apollo GO buyers are. For the price tag though, the Punk Rider Pro is a solid deal for dual motor performance, speed, and night time visibility.
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Wow that is a really nice scooter and for $1,399.00 thats one hell of a deal!
It is the unagi i paid 1000 for looks like a razor scooter compared to this i put them next to eachother and was so mad i bought an unagi two years ago
This looks like a good contender for the Apollo City that I was considering. I like the selectable single/double motor mode and significant lighting enhancements. Regen braking looks equivalent to the Apollo. The IPX rating is also great.
Yah I’m honestly pretty impressed with the features and performance you get for the price.
Always ride in dual motor it will make both motors last longer.
@@Fishfood007really?
I bought a punk rider pro just two weeks ago and immediately started having issues. Left turn signal would go on randomly without me pushing the button, but when I pushed the button it wouldn’t turn on. Also, it would turn on when using the e brake. So I took out the handle bar to check the cabling and found the issue. The way the cables go into the stem is not very efficient, and when I screwed in the hex screws it pinched the cables and severed them. Upon removing the handle bar, the cables are severely severed and now the scooter won’t power on at all. Currently working on getting a warranty replacement.
Yah it’s a pretty massive block of wires you have to push into the stem. That’s really unfortunate about the severed wires. How has customer service been so far?
Hey there! back in 2020 I got an already used Mi m365 that has to be kicked to get up the hills here where I live. I realized with Christmas coming I should replace it. First time I bought a scooter I really didnt shop around but this time has been close to overwhelming! You helped me sooo much. Many thanks to you reviewers who go out there and sort out the good from the bad apples. A few days ago I was looking at the Vmax VX4, Teverun Blade Mini, an IO Hawk model... due to lack of water protection of the Blade Mini its out ( *correction* the Teverun Rep said IPX5.) The VX4 was close but not as convincing as the Punk Rider Pro(1400Euro/Germany) which I am now vying with the IO Hawk Phoenix(removable battery 1400 Euro/Germany).... feels like it's gonna be a close call! I loved my lil m365 but it's time for an UPGRADE! One of these two company's is gonna take my money!
Hello! Choosing the right one is always the challenging part haha. Both options will be a huge upgrade for hill climbing 😎.
Mine should be arriving tomorrow.
Super excited and paid only $1000 for the Pro - caught it on sale and with additional discount code.
Can’t beat that from its original $1499 MSRP.
That’s a sick deal haha. Congrats! Let me know how it goes. I’ve really been enjoying mine.
Where did you find it for $1,000?
Nice introduction review, Tom! From what I've seen, it looks like the fit and finish is above average. It falls into the price and weight territory of the VMAX VX4, this of course having dual motors and 32mph top speed rather than 25mph. I know motor designs are a compromise but I think VMAX went for torque and missed the mark with the top speed on the VX4. Even if the VX4 hit 28-30mph, I'd probably have one. It's great to see the Punk Rider actually achieve the 32mph mark! Something to really consider if it passes your testing measures. I've watched other reviews of this model but frankly, I didn't find many of them very objective. Freshly Charged did a respectable job however. I suspect that with the 936Wh battery, it will likely reach 35mi range at 20mph on mostly flat ground, fingers crossed. You're setting the new standard for scooter reviews, Tom.
Thanks man! I was surprised it hit 32mph as quick as it did. Sometimes scooters struggle to hit the stated max speed or can only do it on a fully charged battery. This one here will hit 32 even with 25% battery remaining.
I’ll post the range test tomorrow and one of the hill climb tests likely a couple days later. It’s not without its faults, but so far it’s been a blast to ride.
@@tomsgadgetgarage That's impressive. I don't think any of my scooters will hit top speed on 25% battery. Actually, maybe the GX3 does because it's electronically limited to 38.5mph. I know it does at 50% so I'll have to try it at 25%. In any case, I'll be eager to see the range test as well as its imperfections. I'm looking for a medium range scooter like this for my brother. I don't know if it will be the Punk Rider or a Kukurin G2 Master, or a VX4 but the low speed limit might be a deal breaker on the VMAX. I heard that Voro will be introducing a new version of the Emove Cruiser too. I have no idea if it's a full redesign or an evolution but it's probably due for a full makeover. If it's good, I might get that, then pass the Cruiser S to my bro. It's such a nice riding scooter though, might be hard let go. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these reviews!
@Patriot36 check this out. Electric Scooter Academy has some info on the new E Move Cruiser th-cam.com/video/k9L8W3zQx4U/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PO14BADaNc_8x1qM
@@tomsgadgetgarage Wow, thanks so much for linking that! Even some sneak peak pictures! That's really exciting. I can't wait to see more. I hope you get one too.
Can’t wait to see more test on this👍🏽 ty
Thanks for this detailed review. What battery sells are in the Punk Rider Pro? Do you know if the handlebars could be swapped out for a standard mountain bike sized handlebar?
Hey! So I don’t know the specific brand of cells, but I know they use high density 21700 cells. As for the handlebar, it’s a pretty standard bike bar so I’m sure you can swap it out. Just know that they route a lot of the wiring though the bar and into the stem.
Seems like a very nice scooter. If considering this over a leopard pro which has more features as a commuter scooter would you still go with the pink pro or the leopard pro or even the updated gallop ?
Looks just like an Apollo scooter
My only complaint is the horn noise when changing modes or indicating. It needs the option to be disabled.
Other than that, it looks perfect and I'm going to get one next.
Yah the beep noise when changing settings is terribly annoying lol. It could double as the horn.
Subscribed. Really interested in this scooter, but nervous on customer service and how easy it is to repair. Hopefully you can put a light on the DIY repairability of it
Hey! Thank you 😊. So the good news here is that they carry all the components for this scooter on their website. I did remove the bottom plate as well as the cover on the internal metal battery compartment and everything is plug and play.
Can't wait to get mines
Congrats! It’s been an excellent scooter so far for me.
Hello good video,,
Thingking to get gt1 or inokim oxo or punk pro, i need somehting that safe to drive at night,
Im live in melbourne, any suggestion whats best e scooter prize range
The Punk Rider Pro is going to standout a lot at night because of its lighting. And honestly that’s critical to safely riding at night. The GT1 is also a great option, but it’s bigger and heavier. I don’t have any experience with Inokim scooters yet so can’t weigh in on that one.
@@tomsgadgetgarage thanks mate..
Anytime!
very precise review!
Thank you!
Wow, I just bought the fiido beast but I’m having a problem because it came scratched up. The company wants to give me $500 off. I told him I would accept it for 500 bucks. It’s not that bad but now I see this and now I’m upset I could’ve used the extra $500 towards this. This is beautiful.👍🏽
That Fiido Beast looks interesting with that seating arrangement. Have you taken it for a spin yet?
@@tomsgadgetgarage yes it’s a lot of fun not 100% stable with the steering wheel like that but it’s still a lot of fun. At least you have an option of sitting or standing but when I received this unit, the battery was scratched up so the company is gonna give me some money back I’m just a little concerned because this is an older unit. It’s been sitting on the shelf for three years.😮
Yikes, three years is a long time for batteries to sit idle. How much charge was on it when you received it?
Definitely looks like an interesting scooter. $500 back sounds like a solid amount to get back. I wonder how the battery got scratched up.
@@tomsgadgetgaragei decided to send it back, even though I still have it they never sent me a shipping label yet and I also never got my full refund yet very shady company so far to deal with. It turns out even $500 was no good because the last day I decided to put it back in the box the keypad stopped working I could not access the battery. The thing was a total piece of garbage.
this goes around $1k here in the philippines at motur avp
Nice! I’ve seen a lot of solid scooter reviews coming out of the Philippines. Are there lots of scooter riders there? If so, what are some of the more common scooters people ride around on?
@@tomsgadgetgarageright now, punk max or raze scooter. i see also lots of nami scooters also.
Oh wow, I heard the Nami’s are excellent scooters. I plan to eventually test one out. I keep a small budget for scooter purchases for review but I’ll have to save up a bit as the Klimas are pricey. But I just checked and it looks like they just dropped the price quite a bit.
@@tomsgadgetgarage nami here is around $1800-2k. great ride. how about there? how much is the price of nami scooter?
They just dropped the price of the Klima to 1,899 for the standard battery version. It was around $2,400 a few weeks ago if I remember right.
Im between the punk rider pro, mantis v2, inokin oxo, and apollo go for the price. Which would be your choice for city riding? mantis v2 is very much on sale right now
Hey! So I can’t speak to the Mantis V2 or the OXO, but both the Punk Rider Pro and the GO are zippy scooters that get up to speed quickly. The main advantage of the GO is its lighter weight and powerful front lights, but it gets less range and has a lower top speed than the Punk Rider Pro. Really depends on how important weight and portability are for you relative to speed and range.
The Mantis V2 looks like it gives you more power and speed but less water resistance.
Solid review and may I ask what is your night time settings in your GoPro looks real crisp
Thank you! I used the settings this gentleman recommends. It’s not perfect but it’s light years better than the hot garbage I was recording at night before making the changes haha. th-cam.com/video/-Aq-8NUv6I8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uDvB8cn0mROb1A2a
@@tomsgadgetgarage thanks bro really appreciate that this will help a lot 🔥😀
Bit of a random question but have you used the "Reset to Defualt" button in the tuning section of the app?
My profile speeds dont matcch yours.
Profile 1 (Eco) is 9mph and Profile 2 (Normal) is 15mph on mine instead of Eco (13 mph) Normal (20 mph) and the reset button is the only thing I can think of that might have changed them (According to Punk there is only 1 version of the firmware so no different region settings).
I haven’t used the reset to default option yet. I will check mine to see if there’s something that can be done to change the speeds. Does your app show a firmware version?
@@tomsgadgetgarage It does. Under firmware uupgrade it says its the latest version and that the current version is "V13".
Hmm, mine says the same. What’s your max speed set to? Mine shows 43.5.
@@tomsgadgetgarage Its currently set to 40km/h but when I was checking the firmware I turned the "rocket" icon on so it was max speed.
Profile 1 and 2 didnt change but profile 3 got up to 54km/h (wheels off the grounud test).
Well that’s progress. I’m not sure why you’d have different speeds for 1 & 2 though. Maybe they can fix it in another firmware update. I prefer the 13/20/32. 20 is my everyday cruising speed.
Nice review Tom. Is Punk affiliated with Apollo? I realize all escooter companies borrow ideas from one another and such but Punk are really pushing their luck.
Thanks! There’s no affiliation between the two to my knowledge. I’ve also spent an embarrassing amount of time looking at the Apollo Pro and Punk Rider Pro from a design perspective. There are similarities between the two, for example the accent lights and regenerative brake throttle as well as the style of the rear kick plate. The main body of the scooters are shaped differently, as are the neck, head unit, and suspension.
Both have a futuristic design compared to nearly all other scooters on the market. I’d say 90% of scooters on the market fall into the category of “seen one, seen them all” from a design perspective.
I believe both cater to very different audiences. The Apollo Pro comes with significantly more power and speed as well as premium features and a sleek design, whereas the Punk Rider Pro delivers aesthetics and solid specs (for the price, on paper) at a more accessible price point.
I’m hoping to get both side by side in the near future, even though from a performance perspective these two are in completely different leagues.
Is TH-cam your full time job? It would be cool if you did a TH-cam earnings breakdown as a smaller channel.
So I have a full time job. TH-cam is something I do on the side. It’s always a struggle balancing free time haha.
Can lights change color to purple or blue?
Hello! Doesn’t look like it. Just white and the orange for the turn signals.
Bro what’s with the sweat 💦 lol poor you. 4K on big TV shows everything 😅
LOL! Garage was 105F/40C 🤣
nobody will ever use single motor on this thing .. only mode 3..amd like everyone said the lights are useless during the day unless its cloudy and not as sunny
I’m sure most won’t haha. It’s a night and day difference between single and dual. And I definitely agree, the light are washed out during the day.
Do not purchase this scooter. I order one, and it arrived damaged and when I created a ticket to resolve the damage they never responded. Terrible support, would not recommend.
Yikes, what kind of damage did it have?
Please keep us advised on whether or not Punk Scooters ever reached out to help you. I was going to purchase this scooter, but will definitely hold off until I hear more about how their good/bad their customer service is.
Apollo city pro clone
Brah have you seen the Apollo Pro? This is a total Cheap imitation. I can see why ppl would buy it. LMFAO...
The two definitely have some similarities, but they aren't even remotely in the same class. The Apollo Pro is geared toward those wanting a more premium product with all the luxuries, performance, and price to match. On the other hand, the Punk Rider Pro is for those looking to get a higher-performance scooter than your typical commuter scooter for a decent price. I don't think buyers of the Apollo Pro are realistically considering the Punk Rider as an alternative, but maybe Apollo GO buyers are.
For the price tag though, the Punk Rider Pro is a solid deal for dual motor performance, speed, and night time visibility.