Just FYI: The image still in the computer monitor that I took Ajax to look at is actually not Kale, it's Ajax. He just looked especially green there and I thought it was Kale. But it is definitely Ajax.
Kimbos look so cool, like little daggers. Somewhere down the line, I'm getting at least 1 more monitor maybe 2. Kimbo is on a very short list of my choices.
@@TreeMonitorTrainingI think you should add a peach throat to your list ! They’re very similar to the tree monitors…pretty much with everything. But also semi- aquatic. It would be kind of like having a Beccarii…just waaay prettier ! 🥰🤣 Btw…I’m only 2 subs behind you now haha 😆 too funny !
@@amysreptileadventures6664 Peach is already on it. I gotta build Kale's enclosure then take stock of where I would even put another enclosure and my sizing options etc.
@@TreeMonitorTraining Sweet, that would be awesome if you did get a Jobiensis ! & I rewatched this video…dude, you’ve got plenty of room there for another enclosure ! Just gotta move a few things around….& you’ve got the whole upstairs as well lol problem solved ! 😎🤙🏻🤣🤣
@@amysreptileadventures6664 Yeah but I wouldn't get free time in presence messing about on my computer if I put someone upstairs. I'd like to keep them all here in my living room. But I mean, I don't even use that TV so.... I don't need any of that shit there TBH. lol
Probably a kimbo, just because they are sleeker and likely better climbers. This process should work with any monitor though as there is no boundary crossing at all and the monitor is always in control of the contact between you. If it's always left up to them there are no misunderstandings. They choose to interact with you, your job is to do as little as possible and ensure you don't mess it up. Any escalation should be from their end until that escalation has happened several times and everything went well each time. You can desensitize to touch at any time but IMO it's better to desensitize to presence first, bait them into interaction with you(Ackie platform videos), and then only desensitize them to your touch after they are comfortable/confident in very close proximity with you and are already climbing around on you. If you start with desensitization to YOUR touch(like most people do), you have to cross comfort boundaries with them to achieve it and the animal never gets the opportunity to build their own confidence with YOU by crossing those boundaries themselves. You are making all the decisions. These guys build confidence the same way you do. For you to build confidence... you have to make the choice to do something yourself, succeed at it, and then have everything turn out ok. Think about anytime in your life you didn't think you could do something until you built up the courage to attempt it a few times, everything worked out, and so you became more confident with that particular thing. It's so obvious once you realize it. By crossing those boundaries to initiate these first interactions yourself, you are robbing them of their opportunity to make those initial steps of their own free will and building their own confidence. If you can find ways for the animal to be in control of each and every step...it becomes so easy and they will do all the hard work for you. For any terrestrial monitor, I would follow the same process I used with the Ackie. I would desensitize them to my presence by letting them see me a lot. I would leave them mostly alone besides tong feeding until they seemed really comfortable inside their enclosure and with me being around. I would not invade their enclosure beyond those feedings. I would then setup a platform outside the enclosure and train them that this is where they get fed now. I would not have my arm present until they get comfortable coming out onto this platform and being fed there. Then I'd introduce the arm and again, do nothing until for several sessions they started playing with it. Then I would start using my chirping cues to try and get their attention but I mean, depending on how well and long you performed the previous steps...I'd be surprised if they didn't already start trying to climb you on their own. Again, the first several times they do this... your job is to just sit there and not react so the animal can complete the activity and build more confidence with it, just make sure your other arm leads them back to the platform. Once the animal is comfortable with touching you, climbing all over you, being in such close proximity to you...you should be able to start initiating yourself with very little boundary crossing because the animal has already crossed that territory for you.
I used to feed them first thing. Nowadays I wait until around 10 on weekends because that's when I come home for lunch during the week. I don't feed them every day anymore. It's more like every 2-4 days (depending on size of meal) now but on 1 of the off days they might get a small roach or two. This was an off day, but then Ajax found that roach and I could tell he was nonstop hunting after that. Anytime they get fixated on something I try to help them succeed because it builds confidence... so I grabbed a few small roaches and threw them in the cat stand to let them hunt. Ajax failed and Kale got 1 from the tongs and the one that climbed out. The other 4 are somewhere in my living room lol. I'm going to be slimming them down over this winter because Ajax is starting to look like a little fat boy, especially with his weird shape. I'm hoping to start feeding them quail soon so I want to slim them way down as these will be larger meals fed further apart.
@cherylj7460 No... It's mainly just through experience and watching their behavior. When they are young as long as you aren't feeding them too many fatty foods too often like rodents, they are growing so fast its pretty hard to feed them too much. The Ackie will eat until she explodes, but the trees are pretty good at eating what they need and then snubbing the rest. But around a year to year and half the growth slowed but my feedings hadn't and theY started getting a bit plump. Now I keep mine a bit more robust than most keepers but I don't want them fat. So I changed to every few days and slimmed them down. They ballooned back up while I was building the Ackie enclosure because I needed so much time to work on that constantly and it's just so easy to give them a giant meal and knock them out for a couple days so they don't bother me as much. When they are digesting a large meal they become lethargic and just want to lay around a few days. So I don't have to watch them constantly scratching at the doors and feel bad about not having the time for them when they see me there in the room. And it took so long to complete the enclosure for various reasons. So I'll just cut back on their feedings and eliminate all treats for several months. Ajax has a very short midsection which makes him look pretty plump, I'm fine with Kale's size tbh but I'm going to slim them both anyway just because there'd be times in the wild when they just weren't successful or there wasn't enough prey around for whatever reason.
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Just FYI: The image still in the computer monitor that I took Ajax to look at is actually not Kale, it's Ajax. He just looked especially green there and I thought it was Kale. But it is definitely Ajax.
Go to bed ! 😂
I'm sure he does understand... hahaha
I can’t wait to try this with my Kimberley rock monitor I’m going to get hopefully a younger one
Kimbos look so cool, like little daggers. Somewhere down the line, I'm getting at least 1 more monitor maybe 2. Kimbo is on a very short list of my choices.
@@TreeMonitorTrainingI think you should add a peach throat to your list ! They’re very similar to the tree monitors…pretty much with everything. But also semi- aquatic. It would be kind of like having a Beccarii…just waaay prettier ! 🥰🤣
Btw…I’m only 2 subs behind you now haha 😆 too funny !
@@amysreptileadventures6664 Peach is already on it. I gotta build Kale's enclosure then take stock of where I would even put another enclosure and my sizing options etc.
@@TreeMonitorTraining Sweet, that would be awesome if you did get a Jobiensis !
& I rewatched this video…dude, you’ve got plenty of room there for another enclosure ! Just gotta move a few things around….& you’ve got the whole upstairs as well lol problem solved ! 😎🤙🏻🤣🤣
@@amysreptileadventures6664 Yeah but I wouldn't get free time in presence messing about on my computer if I put someone upstairs. I'd like to keep them all here in my living room. But I mean, I don't even use that TV so.... I don't need any of that shit there TBH. lol
What Australian monitor would be the best for training other then the ackie monitor
Nice video 🎉
Probably a kimbo, just because they are sleeker and likely better climbers. This process should work with any monitor though as there is no boundary crossing at all and the monitor is always in control of the contact between you. If it's always left up to them there are no misunderstandings. They choose to interact with you, your job is to do as little as possible and ensure you don't mess it up. Any escalation should be from their end until that escalation has happened several times and everything went well each time.
You can desensitize to touch at any time but IMO it's better to desensitize to presence first, bait them into interaction with you(Ackie platform videos), and then only desensitize them to your touch after they are comfortable/confident in very close proximity with you and are already climbing around on you. If you start with desensitization to YOUR touch(like most people do), you have to cross comfort boundaries with them to achieve it and the animal never gets the opportunity to build their own confidence with YOU by crossing those boundaries themselves. You are making all the decisions.
These guys build confidence the same way you do. For you to build confidence... you have to make the choice to do something yourself, succeed at it, and then have everything turn out ok. Think about anytime in your life you didn't think you could do something until you built up the courage to attempt it a few times, everything worked out, and so you became more confident with that particular thing. It's so obvious once you realize it. By crossing those boundaries to initiate these first interactions yourself, you are robbing them of their opportunity to make those initial steps of their own free will and building their own confidence.
If you can find ways for the animal to be in control of each and every step...it becomes so easy and they will do all the hard work for you. For any terrestrial monitor, I would follow the same process I used with the Ackie. I would desensitize them to my presence by letting them see me a lot. I would leave them mostly alone besides tong feeding until they seemed really comfortable inside their enclosure and with me being around. I would not invade their enclosure beyond those feedings. I would then setup a platform outside the enclosure and train them that this is where they get fed now. I would not have my arm present until they get comfortable coming out onto this platform and being fed there. Then I'd introduce the arm and again, do nothing until for several sessions they started playing with it. Then I would start using my chirping cues to try and get their attention but I mean, depending on how well and long you performed the previous steps...I'd be surprised if they didn't already start trying to climb you on their own. Again, the first several times they do this... your job is to just sit there and not react so the animal can complete the activity and build more confidence with it, just make sure your other arm leads them back to the platform. Once the animal is comfortable with touching you, climbing all over you, being in such close proximity to you...you should be able to start initiating yourself with very little boundary crossing because the animal has already crossed that territory for you.
Nice 👍 thanks
They benefit from taming!!
@@JuiceTiger-b8p They certainly do. And once they are calmed down their unique personalities come out which you get to enjoy.
Do you give Ajax food in the morning? Since he’s hunting every morning?
I used to feed them first thing. Nowadays I wait until around 10 on weekends because that's when I come home for lunch during the week.
I don't feed them every day anymore. It's more like every 2-4 days (depending on size of meal) now but on 1 of the off days they might get a small roach or two. This was an off day, but then Ajax found that roach and I could tell he was nonstop hunting after that. Anytime they get fixated on something I try to help them succeed because it builds confidence... so I grabbed a few small roaches and threw them in the cat stand to let them hunt. Ajax failed and Kale got 1 from the tongs and the one that climbed out. The other 4 are somewhere in my living room lol.
I'm going to be slimming them down over this winter because Ajax is starting to look like a little fat boy, especially with his weird shape. I'm hoping to start feeding them quail soon so I want to slim them way down as these will be larger meals fed further apart.
@ Do you weigh their food? I wondered how you determine what is enough or even how much to put out.
@cherylj7460 No... It's mainly just through experience and watching their behavior. When they are young as long as you aren't feeding them too many fatty foods too often like rodents, they are growing so fast its pretty hard to feed them too much. The Ackie will eat until she explodes, but the trees are pretty good at eating what they need and then snubbing the rest. But around a year to year and half the growth slowed but my feedings hadn't and theY started getting a bit plump. Now I keep mine a bit more robust than most keepers but I don't want them fat. So I changed to every few days and slimmed them down. They ballooned back up while I was building the Ackie enclosure because I needed so much time to work on that constantly and it's just so easy to give them a giant meal and knock them out for a couple days so they don't bother me as much. When they are digesting a large meal they become lethargic and just want to lay around a few days. So I don't have to watch them constantly scratching at the doors and feel bad about not having the time for them when they see me there in the room. And it took so long to complete the enclosure for various reasons. So I'll just cut back on their feedings and eliminate all treats for several months. Ajax has a very short midsection which makes him look pretty plump, I'm fine with Kale's size tbh but I'm going to slim them both anyway just because there'd be times in the wild when they just weren't successful or there wasn't enough prey around for whatever reason.