Getting 1 tomorrow... Bought a used Cali plated EXC and my first real ride I was tripping out about the backfires. THEN when I did a hill ride, was battling to keep her running at certain times. Knowing this will fix those issues AND get me up to 105 MPH faster on the street!? FingAright 🤘😂
just installed vortex on my '19 XCF 450, along with a header pipe, and modified airbox so that big lung can breathe. now, i havent had much time to play with it, weather turnin cold here and startin to rain alot,.. but i did manage to get one good ride in. initial switch settings for low,med,high rpm's i put at #6 adding 2.5% fuel across the board. map switch i put at #7 gives more ign advance on bottom end,and a richer fuel map, i could immediately feel some improvement in performance, and experienced only one"flameout" during slow going technical course. i was experiencing multiple flameouts before. my next upgrade will be a 12oz. clutch weight to increase inertia/rotating mass, should end the flameout issue.. thanks jeff, appreciate your vids, and expertise. mike
I have a crf 250 r with a vortex. I was going to change to the original stock ecu as I don't race and just ride trails. After watching your video, I might change my mind and keep the vortex now. Thanks.😊
100% correct, I put the Vortex on my 2019 fe350, end cap, de smoged and the bike is awesome. Completely a different bike. Don’t mess with the other crap tunners . You paid a lot for your bike. Do this setup.
Hi there I have a ‘16 350exc-f with 5000km on it completely stock (besides removal of “EVAP canister” for better airflow) for all 5000 and have just removed the restrictions at the end of my stock pipe the other day, bike still runs great and even feels like it has opened the top end up a little bit! It has always had some overrun popping but I am comfortable with it and like it since most high-performance machines have it to some degree. I have not changed any TPS or ECU stuff whatsoever, the only thing I’ve done is remove silencing screens like I said. If the bike runs the exact same as, or even better than it did before with an even wider feeling top end (plus it sounds a lot better too!!) and the same amount of popping as before, do I still have to get it remapped and tuned? Or can I just leave it as long as it keeps running properly? I don’t want to do any long term damage unknowingly. I have considered vortex however it is obv. expensive and I am wondering the best place to get it, are all sellers reputable or can I get one through a wholesaler like eBay? Are all vortexes made equal by the same people? Thank you I know it’s a lot, any advice helps! great video!! Answered a lot of questions already!
Hey Jeff, not sure if you will reply to this but I’m going to get the vortex from your site. But I’m wanting to know what all I need to do to my 500 to make this ecu work smoothly. My bike is completely stock? Thanks
So i just bout an 07 crf250 with one of these and it has a map switch on the handlebars. What do these exactly do to benefit the bike? The owner didnt even mention it
As a previous poster said, my 2017 500 also ran pretty good. In showroom stock condition, and I mean down to the gearing and tires, I could easily pull the front end straight up in 3rd gear with only throttle. I have read people stating they could not get the front end off the ground. Absurd! All I can say is try twisting the right grip. It does move.
Even mopeds can pop wheelies, that is not an accurate performance evaluation. If you are fine with the stock performance that is fine with me but I prefer a 500 that runs like a 500, not runs like a 350.
Curious... Setting the TPS end points: My '17 500 does not have a kill "button". It's a kill toggle switch on the start button side of the handle bars. Will this work the same? Do I just toggle the switch to X (off) and hit the start button? I'm assuming all this is with the key on, correct? Thank you in advance Jeff!
Hi Jeff, Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the vortex computer. I have a 2014 TXC 250 R. I just bought it, completely stock, with only 40 hours on it, from an older rider. Do I choose the TE 254 the TC 250 in my options are website? Also, well the increase in power from this unit shorten my service intervals and rebuild times? Thank you for taking the time to respond. Much appreciated.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the product review - great stuff! I'm changing from a 450 to my first 350 (21 model) and keen maximise the 350s torque & power. First mod I'll do is fit this Vortex ECU. Wondering, do you get much improvement from adding a full FMF exhaust + header along with this ECU?
@@slaverace1 Cheers - 2021 Gas Gas 350 similar to the FE350. Located in Australia and we ride a mix of terrain from technical slippery forest to wide open deserts. The 450 is perfect when its sandy open country but a lot of bike at other times. Some rides are technical forest, or slow & sandy with lots of 2nd corners but I'm also planning to do my first desert race on it (aim is just to finish). Not sure if that helps. Trying to build a fun allrounder.
@@edwardhartley1307 Ed: I'm sorry for the very slow reply. The FMF header pipe and 4.1 muffler will add to the mid-range and top-end and that will be good for desert racing. For trail riding, the stock exhaust gives better low-end performance. The ECU will give the most bang for the buck.
wow , what a improvement, the bike should come this way out of the box or just sell it without the factory ecu so the buyer can use the savings to buy a vortex. Man what a difference.
Hey Jeff, would it make sense to put one of these on a 2017 350 XC-F as this model doesn't have all the emissions crap from the factory? The bike is pretty darn fast as it is, rarely flames out....It's got the fmf 4.1 and Rekluse as well.
Jeff, by chance do you know if the Vortex 2017 KTM 350 xcf cdi is compatible with the 2017 Husqvarna FX 350. I noticed Vortex doesn't offer a one specifically for the Husky:
Do these vortex ecu’s improve the XCF models as well or do they not need it? I hear a lot about the EXC etc because they are so plugged up but just curious if the vortex makes significant improvement on the XCF models as well? Thanks!!
Hello Jeff, curious on what type of fuel you are running. I run 89 ethanol free most of the time, but I think it suggests high octane with the vortex. Thanks.
I prefer 91 pump gas and I'm not concerned about ethanol. A little extra octane makes for a better flame front which delivers smoother and more consistent performance.
Hi Jeff great video and thanks for the information, I took your word on buying one of these from your experience. So I have just bought a vortex ecu for a ktm 350 sxf 13-14. I have a husqvarna FE 350 2014 so it should be the correct ECU? I have a map switch fitted already And on the data sheet it shows map 2&3 as enduro do I use this or just stick to number 1? Ecu is not fitted yet as I just wanted to get your opinion first. Thanks and keep the videos coming 👍
Does anyone know if it's possible to install the factory map switch/T.C.? Just wondering if I get the vortex ecu for my 17 FE350, will I then be able to install and use the factory tc /map switch? Or is the vortex switch my only option if wanting to install map switch? Thanks
Hey Jeff I have a 2019 Ktm 500 here in Australia, I’m looking at buying the vortex ecu for my bike I already have the modded end cap, but I just wanted to know it an fmf pipe was necessary to have with the upgraded ecu. Also do I need to take out any reeds or desmog anything on the bike? As I’ve heard the Australian versions aren’t as plugged up as the bikes you guys get? I may be wrong
Modding the end cap works well. FMF not required. I don't know if Oz models have reeds. If they do you can gain HP by removing them but they flame out much easier with the reeds removed unless you run a high idle.
Hi Jeff,,i have a 2018 ktm 350 sxf,and i have this Vortex on order,will i be able to still use my stock mapping(1,2) and my Traction control also?? or will i have to do some adjustments to the Vortex? Thnx.
I have a 2017 KTM 500 exc-f bought this vortex quite a while back. Did the intake mod, took out reed valve and installed a velocity stack in air box, bike runs great. lately it was starting to get a random hick up under high load, just random enough that you can't help but notice it. all that power then it just quits a couple of strokes, any way checked everything and then put stock ECU back on no cut out or miss but under high RPM high load I can hear the top end rattling. I'm thinking it is running so lean with the stock ECU. is there anyway I can send my vortex in to be checked
I just want to point out on the 18 fe501 you'll need to get a new Fan since the ECU is not compatible with the OEM fan, the fan won't turn on if you just plug in and go.
Thanks Jeff, The ECU should be fine I got it from vortex. My factory Mechanic is the one who's experienced the issue on multiple occasions. Could be up selling me a fan who knows, I just want to make sure that any potential customers keeps an eye out for it. Thanks
BTW I highly recommend this ECU to anyone reading this, I can't even begin to explain the difference between stock and now the new bike. I went FMF 4.1 Slip on, ECU, FAN ( as we learned not necessarily needed) and a de smog kit. The difference is unbelievable.
My vortex came from an outfit that preset the low,mid,high range to 4 an the 10x to 6 for my 2017 ktm 450 excf. Bike did not seem to have the wheelie power that was advertised. I moved 10x to 7 an left low, mid, an high adjustments at 4. Sounds good an throttle response seems better. I'm at 4500 feet altitude in Wyoming. Is this to lean? How can one tell. Oh mine didn't come with detailed instructions on the 10 different maps.
Vortex does not currently offer an ECU program for '17-'18 450EXC models, that is why they are not on our site. We support products we sell and have no idea what you were sold. Please contact the retailer that sold it to you.
Do you have contact details after advice on mapping and tuneing a cr80 converted to 100cc getting a vortex map kit from eBay so looking for a professionals opinions and guidance if possible thankyou
Honestly and with all due respect...You mentioned you have “extensive testing” with vortex ECU. However, later in the video you say you’re not familiar with how the settings work. Maybe you could clear the confusion on the expertise of the product. Thank you
Don: I've spent many hours testing GET and Vortex ECUs. In the video I said I'm not familiar with the map switch functions on the Vortex because I don't use the switch for testing and you have chosen to spin that into something I did not say. Maybe you should spend more time riding and less time putting me under the microscope.
@@slaverace1That is quite literally exactly what he asked. There was no “[spinning] it into something you did not say”. Not being familiar with the settings vs. not being familiar with the 9 other maps that come stock with the ecu are meant as the same thing. Ironically I am here for research of the other maps as well. And I have a habbit of checking the comments in research of answers to my questions so I don’t have to waste my time watching an 11 minute video that was created by an uneducated, egotistical, greenhorn. People ask question about marked up products that cost more than half a grand. Thank you for letting us dodge a bullet, and invalidating your self proclaimed “expertise” of the product. 😊
@@slaverace1PS: simple english/clarification is not “putting you under a microscope.” ITS clarification. The irony in you telling him to ride more ask questions later, quite literally envelopes you mental knowledge of the product you claim to be the expert on😂
Nasty power now I got to look into changing sprockets give it less top end and more yank on trails any idear how many teeth I should get on a 2020 ktm 500 excf and will I have to get a new chain
Hello No Name: I have no idea what you mean by "nasty power" but if you have a problem, you should call the company you purchased it from and give them a chance to resolve it versus airing your dirty laundry online.
@@slaverace1 nasty power is a good thing no dirty laundry here it the same as it rips sorry for the misunderstanding I get all my stuff from u guys and think verry highly of you
@@slaverace1 Ordering my ECU from you guys simply for the mass amounts of the free information you guys give on TH-cam. Saved me a lot of money with faults and trouble shooting issues. Using that saved money to give back :D Bought my 2019 FE501 with FMF/Desmog done by prior owner. However the stock ECU is still in place and I'm not sure if it had been remapped. I get a poppy deceleration so assuming it's time for a proper ECU.
If your bike is box stock it might not be needed BUT if you have done any mods (exhaust, etc.) or if it starts hard or pops on decel then it will be a BIG help.
My 2017 FE350 has a FMF 4.1 slip on, air box opened up, and de-smogged, earth-x battery, tubeless on MT16's. Recently plugged in the vortex ecu. Low, mid, and high all set on 5 with the map on 1. Bike runs muuch better. Still getting a little pop on decel tho. I tried adjusting the fuel on low, mid, high and tried all 10 maps. I'm not noticing much(if any) difference between the maps? Anyone with a 350 find a sweet spot on the dials? Would a map switch even be worth the buy if I can't tell the difference between maps? .....Maybe I need more air?
hey jeff, I know in the vid you said you havnt messed around with the handle bar mount switch; but was curious if you know anyone who might have a little knowledge on the installation process. I bought one that came off the FC model and was lead to believe it would plug right. not the case with my bike.
Great video Jeff. Question: My 16' 501S has an FMF pipe and previous owner set the TPS to 0.65 and removed all smog. Bike pops like crazy on deceleration. If I buy the Vortex ECU and reset the TPS to factory (0.58) will I be good to go with the FMF pipe? Thanks in advance.
Yes, the TPS needs to go back to stock and the Vortex will not only stop the popping it will also make it start easier and give it a HP boost. There is a slim chance that you will need to slightly richen the Vortex but probably not.
Thanks very much for the quick response. Bike starts very easily right now but the popping is driving me and buddies crazy. Also, If I sell the bike can I just plug the factory ECU back on and it'll run like it did stock?
The emissions requirement to bring into the States is for road legal emissions is that correct, because this is a road legal model? Barrier emissions does not effect closed course bikes? Is that right, cheers the whole thing is very confusing! The Vortex looks a great bit of kit, good information again cheers.
Jeff Slavens I live in the countryside and do my own work unless it's rebores ect lol I bought it as spairs for 30£ gbp knowing there 450+ to buy so just hoping I can get it repaired and save a hell of a lot even if repairs 100-300 I'm still at a gain and by check do you mean check coil and stator with a volt meter but in any case is there a repair hotline number or email ect buddy thankyou so much Kieron from the uk
Jeff, I just got a vortex in from you for my 2017 350 exc today. I did the intake mod and removed the exhaust screens. Did the tps calibration. The bike is back firing on decel and when revving in neutral. Is this normal? I've only tried map 1 and 5. Scared to mess up the motor.
Jeff Slavens thanks Jeff. I got it dialed so it just barely pops when letting off the throttle. Is there an air/fuel meter I can buy so I can make sure I'm good? I'm paranoid about blowing this brand new motor up
Jeff Slavens I also have a 17' FE350. Does the vortex come out of the box with a map for open exhaust (slip on system)? Will the box eliminate Carb codes from being thrown and account for fueling from removal of smog?
Getting 1 tomorrow... Bought a used Cali plated EXC and my first real ride I was tripping out about the backfires. THEN when I did a hill ride, was battling to keep her running at certain times. Knowing this will fix those issues AND get me up to 105 MPH faster on the street!? FingAright 🤘😂
Jeff's videos & product reviews are excellent. Very helpful. I plan to de-smog my 250EXC-F later this year or next. I will be buying one of these.
These things are for real, glad to see Jeff add it to the line up!
Ordered a Vortex for 2018 KTM 500 EXCF. Can't wait to try it. Have done all possible mods except the Vortex. Jazzed!
How did it work out for you?
just installed vortex on my '19 XCF 450, along with a header pipe, and modified airbox so that big lung can breathe. now, i havent had much time to play with it, weather turnin cold here and startin to rain alot,.. but i did manage to get one good ride in. initial switch settings for low,med,high rpm's i put at #6 adding 2.5% fuel across the board. map switch i put at #7 gives more ign advance on bottom end,and a richer fuel map, i could immediately feel some improvement in performance, and experienced only one"flameout" during slow going technical course. i was experiencing multiple flameouts before. my next upgrade will be a 12oz. clutch weight to increase inertia/rotating mass, should end the flameout issue.. thanks jeff, appreciate your vids, and expertise. mike
Thank you for your business
I have a crf 250 r with a vortex. I was going to change to the original stock ecu as I don't race and just ride trails. After watching your video, I might change my mind and keep the vortex now. Thanks.😊
I see there is an Italian ECU box for the 2T bikes called PowerCDI. Would love for you to test one and see if it works as advertised
100% correct, I put the Vortex on my 2019 fe350, end cap, de smoged and the bike is awesome. Completely a different bike. Don’t mess with the other crap tunners . You paid a lot for your bike. Do this setup.
Thank you.
Hi there I have a ‘16 350exc-f with 5000km on it completely stock (besides removal of “EVAP canister” for better airflow) for all 5000 and have just removed the restrictions at the end of my stock pipe the other day, bike still runs great and even feels like it has opened the top end up a little bit! It has always had some overrun popping but I am comfortable with it and like it since most high-performance machines have it to some degree. I have not changed any TPS or ECU stuff whatsoever, the only thing I’ve done is remove silencing screens like I said. If the bike runs the exact same as, or even better than it did before with an even wider feeling top end (plus it sounds a lot better too!!) and the same amount of popping as before, do I still have to get it remapped and tuned? Or can I just leave it as long as it keeps running properly? I don’t want to do any long term damage unknowingly. I have considered vortex however it is obv. expensive and I am wondering the best place to get it, are all sellers reputable or can I get one through a wholesaler like eBay? Are all vortexes made equal by the same people? Thank you I know it’s a lot, any advice helps! great video!! Answered a lot of questions already!
Is there a map on the exc model that is a good setup for a snow bike?
Hey Jeff, not sure if you will reply to this but I’m going to get the vortex from your site. But I’m wanting to know what all I need to do to my 500 to make this ecu work smoothly. My bike is completely stock? Thanks
So i just bout an 07 crf250 with one of these and it has a map switch on the handlebars. What do these exactly do to benefit the bike? The owner didnt even mention it
you tell"em jeff !!!!!
Dose the ecu change the rev limit should u put a tachometer on it can I ride it like I do now I never rev it up untill.the rev limet hits
As a previous poster said, my 2017 500 also ran pretty good. In showroom stock condition, and I mean down to the gearing and tires, I could easily pull the front end straight up in 3rd gear with only throttle. I have read people stating they could not get the front end off the ground. Absurd! All I can say is try twisting the right grip. It does move.
Even mopeds can pop wheelies, that is not an accurate performance evaluation. If you are fine with the stock performance that is fine with me but I prefer a 500 that runs like a 500, not runs like a 350.
Curious... Setting the TPS end points: My '17 500 does not have a kill "button". It's a kill toggle switch on the start button side of the handle bars. Will this work the same? Do I just toggle the switch to X (off) and hit the start button? I'm assuming all this is with the key on, correct? Thank you in advance Jeff!
Button or toggle, same thing. Key on.
Great timing. Going to be a great rip to work. Thank you!
Hi Jeff, Thank you for sharing your knowledge on the vortex computer. I have a 2014 TXC 250 R. I just bought it, completely stock, with only 40 hours on it, from an older rider. Do I choose the TE 254 the TC 250 in my options are website? Also, well the increase in power from this unit shorten my service intervals and rebuild times? Thank you for taking the time to respond. Much appreciated.
Hello
Sorry, Vortex does not offer ECUs for Italian made Husqvarnas, only Austrian models.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the product review - great stuff! I'm changing from a 450 to my first 350 (21 model) and keen maximise the 350s torque & power. First mod I'll do is fit this Vortex ECU. Wondering, do you get much improvement from adding a full FMF exhaust + header along with this ECU?
I need more info to answer your question. What model 350 and what type of riding do you do?
@@slaverace1 Cheers - 2021 Gas Gas 350 similar to the FE350. Located in Australia and we ride a mix of terrain from technical slippery forest to wide open deserts. The 450 is perfect when its sandy open country but a lot of bike at other times. Some rides are technical forest, or slow & sandy with lots of 2nd corners but I'm also planning to do my first desert race on it (aim is just to finish). Not sure if that helps. Trying to build a fun allrounder.
@@edwardhartley1307
Ed: I'm sorry for the very slow reply. The FMF header pipe and 4.1 muffler will add to the mid-range and top-end and that will be good for desert racing. For trail riding, the stock exhaust gives better low-end performance. The ECU will give the most bang for the buck.
@@slaverace1 Thank you!
wow , what a improvement, the bike should come this way out of the box or just sell it without the factory ecu so the buyer can use the savings to buy a vortex. Man what a difference.
Hey Jeff, would it make sense to put one of these on a 2017 350 XC-F as this model doesn't have all the emissions crap from the factory? The bike is pretty darn fast as it is, rarely flames out....It's got the fmf 4.1 and Rekluse as well.
Hello Josh: The Vortex is impressive on all models. It will give your 350 more HP from bottom to top.
Jeff, by chance do you know if the Vortex 2017 KTM 350 xcf cdi is compatible with the 2017 Husqvarna FX 350. I noticed Vortex doesn't offer a one specifically for the Husky:
Yes, that is the same ECU. I forgot to post a Vortex page for Huskys. I'll take care of that tomorrow.
Jeff Slavens thank you
Do these vortex ecu’s improve the XCF models as well or do they not need it? I hear a lot about the EXC etc because they are so plugged up but just curious if the vortex makes significant improvement on the XCF models as well? Thanks!!
Yes, they improve the XCF, better starting, improved idle and MORE HP.
Hello Jeff, curious on what type of fuel you are running. I run 89 ethanol free most of the time, but I think it suggests high octane with the vortex. Thanks.
I prefer 91 pump gas and I'm not concerned about ethanol. A little extra octane makes for a better flame front which delivers smoother and more consistent performance.
Hi Jeff great video and thanks for the information, I took your word on buying one of these from your experience. So I have just bought a vortex ecu for a ktm 350 sxf 13-14. I have a husqvarna FE 350 2014 so it should be the correct ECU? I have a map switch fitted already And on the data sheet it shows map 2&3 as enduro do I use this or just stick to number 1? Ecu is not fitted yet as I just wanted to get your opinion first. Thanks and keep the videos coming 👍
The ECU is the same for those models but the maps are different. It will need reflashed.
Jeff Slavens what’s reflashing Jeff??
Jeff Slavens I’m based in the uk if that helps
Would you recommend this product for the Euro version 17' Husky FE450?
Yes, the Euro map is barely better than the USA map.
Does anyone know if it's possible to install the factory map switch/T.C.? Just wondering if I get the vortex ecu for my 17 FE350, will I then be able to install and use the factory tc /map switch? Or is the vortex switch my only option if wanting to install map switch? Thanks
I think it is possible. The Vortex switch is a simple 2 wire.
Where should I set the low, mid and high on a 17 excf 450 and the 18 excf 500?
They are already pre-set. Install it and ride it.
Thank you!
Have you tried the JD jetting tuner? I know it's not a full on ECU but curious if it's a better value or not.
Yes, it improves the performance some but not nearly enough.
I have had a JD Tuner on my bike for a couple weeks... I just ordered a Vortex for mine from Jeff. After riding my buddy's bike, it's a no-brainer.
what bike?
Hey Jeff
I have a 2019 Ktm 500 here in Australia, I’m looking at buying the vortex ecu for my bike I already have the modded end cap, but I just wanted to know it an fmf pipe was necessary to have with the upgraded ecu. Also do I need to take out any reeds or desmog anything on the bike? As I’ve heard the Australian versions aren’t as plugged up as the bikes you guys get? I may be wrong
Modding the end cap works well. FMF not required. I don't know if Oz models have reeds. If they do you can gain HP by removing them but they flame out much easier with the reeds removed unless you run a high idle.
@@slaverace1 thanks for thank the time to reply much appreciated. 👍🏼
Hi Jeff,,i have a 2018 ktm 350 sxf,and i have this Vortex on order,will i be able to still use my stock mapping(1,2) and my Traction control also?? or will i have to do some adjustments to the Vortex? Thnx.
tmlpony how did you go with TC and map switch?
I have a 2017 KTM 500 exc-f bought this vortex quite a while back. Did the intake mod, took out reed valve and installed a velocity stack in air box, bike runs great. lately it was starting to get a random hick up under high load, just random enough that you can't help but notice it. all that power then it just quits a couple of strokes, any way checked everything and then put stock ECU back on no cut out or miss but under high RPM high load I can hear the top end rattling. I'm thinking it is running so lean with the stock ECU. is there anyway I can send my vortex in to be checked
Hello Gary
Give us a call and ask for Alec.
If I have a fmf 4.1 on the 17 FE501 do I need to adjust the settings?
Daniel Jutt So I have mine in map one but what did u end up setting it low mid and high range numbers at km using a fmf on an enduro as well
I just want to point out on the 18 fe501 you'll need to get a new Fan since the ECU is not compatible with the OEM fan, the fan won't turn on if you just plug in and go.
Hello:
You should contact the company you bought it from because it is not correctly programmed. The ones we sell work fine with the stock fan.
Thanks Jeff, The ECU should be fine I got it from vortex. My factory Mechanic is the one who's experienced the issue on multiple occasions. Could be up selling me a fan who knows, I just want to make sure that any potential customers keeps an eye out for it. Thanks
Some companies sell the 450XCF ECU to 500/501 customers and the XCF ECU does not have a fan so no programming for a fan.
Much I appreciated, I'll forward the information on to him seems like the most likely case.
BTW I highly recommend this ECU to anyone reading this, I can't even begin to explain the difference between stock and now the new bike. I went FMF 4.1 Slip on, ECU, FAN ( as we learned not necessarily needed) and a de smog kit. The difference is unbelievable.
do the stock settings on the vortex ECU adequately richen the bike up after removing the reeds, changing exhaust etc.?
Depending on which exhaust you install, you may need to richen the fuel trim screws which is very simple.
Great video. I have 250 sxf and i am having rough time riding enduro from time to time. I saw vortex ecu has some enduro maps. Do they actually work?
There are 10 maps and they all work.
@@slaverace1 Thx - i am currently residing in China. Is there is a dealer here?
No, but we ship to China.
I checked out your website and it is hard to find products for specific bikes on my phone
Agreed. Plan to have that fixed in the next 60 days. Use your desktop/laptop for now.
My vortex came from an outfit that preset the low,mid,high range to 4 an the 10x to 6 for my 2017 ktm 450 excf. Bike did not seem to have the wheelie power that was advertised. I moved 10x to 7 an left low, mid, an high adjustments at 4. Sounds good an throttle response seems better. I'm at 4500 feet altitude in Wyoming. Is this to lean? How can one tell. Oh mine didn't come with detailed instructions on the 10 different maps.
Vortex does not currently offer an ECU program for '17-'18 450EXC models, that is why they are not on our site. We support products we sell and have no idea what you were sold. Please contact the retailer that sold it to you.
Do a plug reading. My 2018 was lean on the 5,5,5 setting the box comes set to. Runs much better at 5,7,8.
After installing the Vortex ECU, can we still use the TC & Map1/2 button?
Des BarangKuat yes I am interested if I can install and use the factory tc/ map select button with the vortex ecu.
Yes you can.
Calvin Earl would the map switch be plug and play?
I have a '16!350 XCF-W. Do I need to order the Vortex for the 350 EXC-F?
Yes, those are basically the same bike.
Can I run this box without desmogging or altering the exhaust with improvement?
No.
Do you have contact details after advice on mapping and tuneing a cr80 converted to 100cc getting a vortex map kit from eBay so looking for a professionals opinions and guidance if possible thankyou
Honestly and with all due respect...You mentioned you have “extensive testing” with vortex ECU. However, later in the video you say you’re not familiar with how the settings work. Maybe you could clear the confusion on the expertise of the product. Thank you
Don: I've spent many hours testing GET and Vortex ECUs. In the video I said I'm not familiar with the map switch functions on the Vortex because I don't use the switch for testing and you have chosen to spin that into something I did not say. Maybe you should spend more time riding and less time putting me under the microscope.
@@slaverace1That is quite literally exactly what he asked. There was no “[spinning] it into something you did not say”. Not being familiar with the settings vs. not being familiar with the 9 other maps that come stock with the ecu are meant as the same thing.
Ironically I am here for research of the other maps as well. And I have a habbit of checking the comments in research of answers to my questions so I don’t have to waste my time watching an 11 minute video that was created by an uneducated, egotistical, greenhorn.
People ask question about marked up products that cost more than half a grand.
Thank you for letting us dodge a bullet, and invalidating your self proclaimed “expertise” of the product. 😊
@@slaverace1PS: simple english/clarification is not “putting you under a microscope.” ITS clarification. The irony in you telling him to ride more ask questions later, quite literally envelopes you mental knowledge of the product you claim to be the expert on😂
Can existing one be reprogrammed I'm guessing not.
The short answer is no but some shops are illegally installing Euro maps that only make a minor improvement, if any.
Is this needed on the European bikes too ? Just bought a new 2018 exc 500..
We ship a lot to Europe so I assume it helps out the Euro model as well as it does the US model.
Jeff Slavens again thx for the fast replies :) I’m on you website looking through your stuff now :)
Jeff do i have to put one on if i put a fmf pipe on
An FMF 4.1 will make your already lean bike more lean so yes it will need a Vortex to make it rip, keep it cool and longer engine life.
What leavers are you using?
Midwest >>>>> slavensracing.com/product-category/controls/levers/
Is this available for 2016 models
Yes, if you click on the link below the video it takes you to the site page. Then click on the drop-down menu.
Nasty power now I got to look into changing sprockets give it less top end and more yank on trails any idear how many teeth I should get on a 2020 ktm 500 excf and will I have to get a new chain
Hello No Name: I have no idea what you mean by "nasty power" but if you have a problem, you should call the company you purchased it from and give them a chance to resolve it versus airing your dirty laundry online.
@@slaverace1 nasty power is a good thing no dirty laundry here it the same as it rips sorry for the misunderstanding I get all my stuff from u guys and think verry highly of you
@@ktmdays
Sorry, I misunderstood. "Nasty power" sounded like you are upset. If you need any help, let me know via email. Thanks for your business.
@@slaverace1 Ordering my ECU from you guys simply for the mass amounts of the free information you guys give on TH-cam. Saved me a lot of money with faults and trouble shooting issues. Using that saved money to give back :D Bought my 2019 FE501 with FMF/Desmog done by prior owner. However the stock ECU is still in place and I'm not sure if it had been remapped. I get a poppy deceleration so assuming it's time for a proper ECU.
@@nathanc5789 Thank you.
How good does the Vortex work on a 2014 KTM 500 EXC?
If your bike is box stock it might not be needed BUT if you have done any mods (exhaust, etc.) or if it starts hard or pops on decel then it will be a BIG help.
OK. I have the FMF 4.1 slip on exhaust (Stock head pipe) and the Euro Map. Bike has minor popping on decel, starts right up. Thoughts? Thx
desmogg your bike and it should fix it
My 2017 FE350 has a FMF 4.1 slip on, air box opened up, and de-smogged, earth-x battery, tubeless on MT16's.
Recently plugged in the vortex ecu. Low, mid, and high all set on 5 with the map on 1.
Bike runs muuch better.
Still getting a little pop on decel tho.
I tried adjusting the fuel on low, mid, high and tried all 10 maps. I'm not noticing much(if any) difference between the maps?
Anyone with a 350 find a sweet spot on the dials?
Would a map switch even be worth the buy if I can't tell the difference between maps?
.....Maybe I need more air?
Richen the low adjuster, not the others. Put it on map 1.
Thanks Jeff!
hey jeff, I know in the vid you said you havnt messed around with the handle bar mount switch; but was curious if you know anyone who might have a little knowledge on the installation process. I bought one that came off the FC model and was lead to believe it would plug right. not the case with my bike.
Great video Jeff. Question: My 16' 501S has an FMF pipe and previous owner set the TPS to 0.65 and removed all smog. Bike pops like crazy on deceleration. If I buy the Vortex ECU and reset the TPS to factory (0.58) will I be good to go with the FMF pipe? Thanks in advance.
Yes, the TPS needs to go back to stock and the Vortex will not only stop the popping it will also make it start easier and give it a HP boost. There is a slim chance that you will need to slightly richen the Vortex but probably not.
Thanks very much for the quick response. Bike starts very easily right now but the popping is driving me and buddies crazy. Also, If I sell the bike can I just plug the factory ECU back on and it'll run like it did stock?
yes
Perfect - I'll be ordering one this week.
All done, and installed. works great. Set the TPS back to stock and plug and play. Thanks for the videos Jeff!
The emissions requirement to bring into the States is for road legal emissions is that correct, because this is a road legal model? Barrier emissions does not effect closed course bikes? Is that right, cheers the whole thing is very confusing!
The Vortex looks a great bit of kit, good information again cheers.
Yes, the feds make them plug up the bikes to meet emissions standards.
An ecu is like the 4 stroke version of a power valve right? Or something like that
Sorry, not even close. The ECU controls the fuel injection and the ignition.
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Will this provide as much benefit on a 2016 500 EXC as it does on the 2017 models?
See my response above please.
Where can I get one repaired got one for the cr now
Repaired? What's wrong with it?
Jeff Slavens has a intermittent spark
That can also be caused by other components. Have a mechanic do a complete diagnostics test.
Jeff Slavens I live in the countryside and do my own work unless it's rebores ect lol I bought it as spairs for 30£ gbp knowing there 450+ to buy so just hoping I can get it repaired and save a hell of a lot even if repairs 100-300 I'm still at a gain and by check do you mean check coil and stator with a volt meter but in any case is there a repair hotline number or email ect buddy thankyou so much Kieron from the uk
You should contact the Vortex distributor in the UK. www.vortexcdi.com/distributors.htm#united_kingdom
This ECU can be used on crf150L? Thanks
No. Your bike does not have an ECU.
@@slaverace1 no my bike have ECU for sure, you can check it.
@@ljsablad04 your bike has a carburetor which doesn’t require an ecu
@@joecooper1543 nope im pretty sure it is a Fi type
10:00 "it's $699," you know inflation is garbage... When a 6 year + old product went UP $100 in price 😂🤦♂️
Jeff, I just got a vortex in from you for my 2017 350 exc today. I did the intake mod and removed the exhaust screens. Did the tps calibration. The bike is back firing on decel and when revving in neutral. Is this normal? I've only tried map 1 and 5. Scared to mess up the motor.
That is not normal. Put it on map one and richen the low rpm setting as per the instructions. It's very quick and easy to do.
Jeff Slavens thanks Jeff. I got it dialed so it just barely pops when letting off the throttle. Is there an air/fuel meter I can buy so I can make sure I'm good? I'm paranoid about blowing this brand new motor up
Jeff Slavens I also have a 17' FE350. Does the vortex come out of the box with a map for open exhaust (slip on system)? Will the box eliminate Carb codes from being thrown and account for fueling from removal of smog?
Yes it will compensate for open exhaust and de-smogging.
Jeff Slavens Thank you for the reply.
but also this vortex is 700$...
Don’t forget the TPS