Ravens vs Crows, they're different!
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- A Raven is a Crow, like a wolf is a dog...there's a big difference!
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In it, you'll see the real differences between Ravens and Crows, like; where and how they live, and more importantly you'll see that their family lives are world's apart. Ravens are are like the mid-western married couple that buy a farm, raising their kids and live and work it as a married couple for life. Crows, well crows are more like inter-city gang bangers.
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This short shows some of the more obvious physical differences between a raven and a crow and is taken from the Raven Diaries DVD Movie series, available at Amazon.com. For the real animal lovers, see "Bob, Huey & Me" - the amazing true story about a baby raven raised to be wild and how he took over the entire neighborhood, teasing and playing with everything and everyone he came in contact with! This is great story for animal lovers of all ages and is available at Amazon.
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I just spent 45 minutes researching online to try and figure out if the bird in my yard is a crow or a raven and only got more and more unsure...until I watched your video. This is *by far* the most useful explanation I've found. Thank you!
(P.S. it's a raven)
Thanks, katie, glad we could help! If you'd like more we did a more in depth video here;
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P.S. enjoy your raven...
Ravens are Crows... Crows are a family of birds wich Ravens are a part of.
@@dero4378 yes, called "corvids."?
@@jaygarit9177 that's correct
@@jaygarit9177 corvids-19
+ Ravens like to say "Never More" for some reason.
InsertName125 they just repeat depending on what the owner says
@@wildcatcrossingonalog2131 I dont think you understood the reference, my friend. Edgar Allan Poe would be disappointed in you
No, it's only one word. Nevermore ;)
@@wildcatcrossingonalog2131 you must be thinking of a parrot. There are not too many owners of ravens, especially crows. Ravens nor crows mimic speech, as in words; unlike parrots. Parrots mimic human language. Those that use (or repeat aka parrot) what they hear, including certain words. Such as the use of the word "parrot" when referring to someone who says the same thing over and over again, as "parroting". Ravens do not mimic other birds or animals (including humans'}
Actually, they do. I literally had to watch an hour long documentary during school. There’s evidence too in TH-cam.
They're both gorgeous birds, though aren't they? This answered my question too. I have crows. I'd sure like to see a raven.
Oh wow! I haven't ever seen one live (in person, so to speak)...allow me to say yet!
You're a sailor from the Vietnam era, Mitch?
My Dad and uncles all got out in '63. Wives wouldn't let them go to VN. It was still voluntary. On topic, I can't wait to go through all your videos about these birds! They're so smart!
I really need to take a trip to the Appalachian Trail near me to see some in person! In my part of PA, it's mostly hawks. (I love them too, but I want to see ravens!)
I'm going to watch your vids right now! I'm missing out on Bonnie and Clyde!
What's crazy is this whole time, I thought I was hearing crows making different sounds. Turns out, they are ravens. But we have both ravens and crows around my house. I am fascinated by them all, I think they hold a certain power. I consider them good signs.
Ravens may be cooler but a "murder of crows" sounds cooler than a "congress of ravens"
One can also see an "unkindness" of ravens, which is not fair at all. Anyone who has been involved at all with ravens knows they are not "unkind", they are devoted parents and older siblings help take care of their younger bros and sisters.
I've been feeding and interacting with a special raven dude I named "Igor" for 5 years, and he brings me gifts! Now he has a mate, I named her Elsa after Elsa Lancaster, the actress who played the "Bride of Frankenstein". I figured since the "bride" hated Dr. Frank and his monster, she might have had a love connection with Igor, who was the nicest guy in that story!
I love them, and I'm planning on making a video about them once I get enough pics and video.
@@same5457 actually a group of rats is called a 'mischief'. A group of ravens are considered an 'unkindness' or 'conspiracy'.
A group of crows is called a 'murder'.. I always think of the Incubus album 'A Crow Left Of The Murder' whenever I hear that lol
congress :) man i wish our actual congress was a bunch of ravens. itd be very inefficient but very funny
@Jaime Garcia sorry mate but you are wrong then
It's all stupid names
“Every time I’m in the street, I hear....” 0:44
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MAN DOWN WHERE U FROM
From the top of my head: watch the legs! Ravens have upper part of legs covered in feather ("trousers"), crows have legs all bald.
Awww ravens have got trousers!
wow, thanks good observation
I felt like I was watching Dora the Explorer, but you know, the adult version. Lol nice
Thank, you I would love to use a Dora the Explorer type animation for a kids version of our movie Bob, Huey & Me. But, I can't sing and I don't draw… : )
hahahahahaha
"Can you spot the differences between the crow and the raven?"
*Pause*
"That's right! The raven is larger and has a hooked beak! Vamos, Diego! Vamos!"
+Cory The main difference is that the crows say, "Caw! Caw!" The ravens say, "Nevermore!"
Very very helpful Thank you theravendiaries!
So ravens are cooler
Just in my very biased opinion...
In my opinion yes, but i get called a bigot for thinking so...
I like crows much more
Ravens rock
Crows are wayyyyyyyyyy smarter
Both crows and ravens are two of the most remarkable, intelligent, whimsical, fun, beautiful, and fascinating birds in our world. I've enjoyed some wonderful interactions with both birds over my lifetime and I absolutely LOVE both CROWS & RAVENS with ALL of my heart. ❤❤😍😍☺☺
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"In conclusion, Ravens rock"
Humph...Sounds pretty biased...
I admit it...
That's so raven!
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I laughed way to hard at this
you're so gay
Every gram of me believes that ravens are smarter birds. Growing up with a hybrid raven, I know of their brilliance! They're so observant, patient, and confident. Our raven easily learned how to get out of every cage or door he was presented with, the only way to keep him out of rooms was with brute force, blocking them off so that he couldn't get in. He could tell my twin sister and me apart in an instant by looking at our eyes (she has one blind eye that is grey). I never thought much of it back then, but now that I'm older I realize just how special the corvidae family are, especially ravens. They're my favourite birds :-)
Thanks for sharing the story Kirsteny! I love to hear about the raven's persistence and their incredible ability to recognize and differentiate individuals. The ravens I work with recognize me from well over a mile away!
Agreed, they are very smart, but Carrion Crows and Rooks are probably equally as smart and have been known to make tools and escape from places too. Corvids are all great birds, from the Jays to the Magpies.
Ravens are.. they're the most intelligent bird
Kirsteny Svolger so true because witches have them as pets
Kirsteny Svolger That's incredibly strange given that it's a raven, and your sister had a grey eye. Edgar Allen Poe of course wrote the raven, but The Tell-Tale Heart was about someone trying to rip out an old man's "pale blue" eye.
In all a very well thought out and executed presentation. Thank you. I've lived with rescued Crows and Ravens lifelong. I'm 70. My current Raven in residence, for more than 16 years. I interact with wild Ravens daily and occasionally Crows. I find great difference in look and behavior in juvenile and adult Ravens. Of particular note is the sounds. In fact juvenile Ravens can and often sound like juvenile and adult Crows. The Raven sound examples you use are all adults. To add to the confusion, juvenile Ravens flock. I believe for feeding and protection against predation. Crow flocks contain adults and juvenile alike. They look and act similarly. Adult Ravens (usually 4 years and up) pair bond and stake a territory that they defend vigorously. They do not fly with the juvenile flocks as adult crows do. Some adult pairs (lifelong bonds) will sometimes allow a few juveniles in their territory, but almost never adults. The only time I've seen the resident pair allow other adults in their territory is if to help defend from a predator. Hawks, owls and bobcats are examples. I've witnessed and a time or two been involved with the local bonded couple as they matured and attempted to claim their territory. I believe that in most cases, the allowed juveniles are the get of the territorial owners. There are many, many other differing habits that separate the two corvids. At Raven maturation, the throat hackles become more apparent, the beak thickens and grows longer, the head size increased demonstrably, the size of the body grows both in stature and 'beef', and they develop the 'throaty' sounds you display so well. Neither juvenile nor adult Crows possess any of these properties.
Dear comptrguru, this is just a quick 3 minute clip from our kids movie "Bob, Huey & Me" that gives a very quick outline of the differences between the adult birds (which is what most people are referring to when they ask the question.) For those who want more detail we encourage them to visit our Raven Diaries website and check out the entire movie series where we go into far more detail about much of what you speak of and then some. Tell you what I'd love, is for you to share some of your best stories about specific birds you've gotten to work with!
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Hi Comptguru! I am very interested in your observations, thank you for sharing
@@zed5682 How do you know wtf
If there was more people like you doing these sort of videos then people would learn so much more, this is excellent video,very to the point and informative as well as clearly explained.Thank you
10/10
Both of these birds are so smart. Like ridiculously intelligent
I always knew that the ravens are big ass birds. They are big. black & shiny. They look like the cousin of the crow. But their behavior is different. They are beautiful birds, natures gift. Pleasant to watch them socialize w/ us humans. Great video. Respect the bird!
Thanks! I'm in the process of moving from Kansas to the high desert of New Mexico, and always suspected these huge crows up here are actually Ravens. Their everyday chatter is pretty cool, but one day I heard an absolutely amazing conversation, that I someday hope to hear again and record. Then a couple of weeks ago one landed within 10 to 15 yards from my dog and I, and started talking to us. As I spoke back, it landed even closer, giving me a decent photo. Should be interesting once I get settled here.
I'd put my money on the raven. Also, as I've said above, I prefer the way the raven lives and shares in it's own family territory. Crows are either gang-bangers, or short feisty ravens on lots of caffeine. Both are amazing creatures! Both use tools, tease and play. The raven just seems to demonstrate a lot more pre-thought in it's actions, especially when it comes to teasing other animals and birds.
love them both.....................
Very well done! I keep coming back to this - simple, straightforward, and well presented.
Both are incredibly lovely and so smart.
Im ready for the wild!
Something unsettled the crows around our apartment building a few minutes ago...what a ruckus! And then we heard a bird call that we couldn't recognize. Sounded almost like a croak... thanks to your video, we now know it was a raven!! Great video and most detailed info that was easy to understand and recognize!
I was vibin to the "A crow, A raven" bit.
I rarely comment on videos; however, this teaching video deserves high praise. It's very professionally and sweetly done.
They still look the same to me.Lol
Lol no one noticed you except me they don't Know what they have missed
Great video. The vibe brings back memories of my childhood when educational shows for kids had simple but informative descriptions over a nice light and jazzy tune.
Very true! When ever we're on a long multi hour drive, my wife and I count ravens. I can watch the road but it's a safe way to keep my eyes moving and helps me to avoid hwy hypnosis. But to count it has to positively be a raven, crows don't count so we have to see the diamond tail, hear the rock rock rock or be close enough to see the bill. On any given trip many birds in the distance go uncounted cause we can't tell with absolute certainty!
Moved to a new town and noticed a lot of what I thought were awfully quiet and big "crows" in the neighborhood on my morning walks. Thanks for enlightening me, this was the clearest and most helpful resource I've seen so far. Fascinating birds.
Thanks so much, for the info about Crows & Ravens!
I inmediately saw, that these big birds in NW Spain, are Ravens, not Crows as we always called them.
My family & myself came from the British Lake District in '79, when I was 9, and during my youth I was in charge of taking our 70 goats up the mountains, to feed. This gave me plenty of time to watch many kinds of birds, including Golden Eagles, Peregrine Falcons, Jays, ...and these that I find out to be Ravens..!! Thankyou!
-Joey.
Any stories you'd like to share I'm sure others would enjoy!
i love how you explain the differences between raven and crows and give a small quiz at the end. nailed the quiz btw. also 3:08 Batman Arkham games anyone?
Flying raven rather looks like a bird of prey.
ikr lol it looks almost like a black hawk
It is though. A bird of prey. "Teams of ravens have been known to hunt down game too large for a single bird. They also prey on eggs and nestlings of other birds, such as coastal seabirds, as well as rodents, grains, worms, and insects" more here
@KAHANU ERMEYAS-TULU you're false lol
@KAHANU ERMEYAS-TULU wrong
You have no idea how long I've been trying to find concise information like this!
Thank you!
A RAVEN IS NOT A CROW! Ravens and crows belong to the same biologically classified "family." But understand, taxonomists just made up these so called family names! A hickory tree is in the "family" of walnuts but you don't call a hickory a walnut. You make the same ignorant mistake if you call a raven a crow. Crows are crows and ravens are ravens, they both belong in the made up but meaning-less family order of Corvidae. So do jays and magpies but would you call jay a crow?
Ur mainly right but u cant always trust wikipedia anyway ur family thing is right corvus means raven ur right corax is crow so raven in latin is tech ically corvus but its usually said corvus corax which means raven, crow or crow, raven i forgot which way but he isnt comparing ravens and crows he is comparing ravens and common crows which again is in the family of crows
Just different species:
Common raven (Corvus corax) - a raven you depicted
American crow (Corvus brachyrhynchos) - a crow you depicted
Various other species of Corvus genus:
Rook (C. frugilegus)
Western Jackdaw (C. monedula)
Little crow aka Bennet crow (C. Bennetti)
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The only right thing that a magpie (!!!) is different to all ravens and crows due to being from different genus. Eurasian magpie (Pica pica).
A raven is corvus corax which translates to crow raven so yes ravens are a part of the family orcrows hut theya rent common crows which people jsut call crows.
Ravens are aprt of the crow (corvus) family
I thought everyone knew this? Crows and Ravens are related but they are different birds. Crows also tend to hang out in flocks, while Raven are more of a loner.
Sometimes younger ravens can be of an adult crow size. Also both can live for like 80 years (common for corvids maybe)
I love this video! Thanks a lot. In my country, people tend to merge different animals into one term (Crows and ravens are merged into one term, "gagak" in this case) so this helps a lot. Thank you!
BUT RAVEN DON'T GUARD THE MOTHERFUCKING WALL
CROWS FTW
+GOT TOSA Crows and and their peckish, unsure footing! Theeeey, will, faaalll! haha
Great information, just what we needed to know. Thank you.
I've long sought to get an answer as to why ravens and crows were added to the Migratory Bird list in 1971 thereby making it illegal to have one as a pet. Good thing Dickens and Poe were before such regulations were enacted otherwise we wouldn't have some of the literature that includes ravens and crows that we have today. Here's a taste of what it's like to work with these birds... th-cam.com/video/AfsnHVaScjg/w-d-xo.html
Nice vid 👍 Ravens Rock!!!
Nice name, yes ravens rock!
+theravendiaries Thanks! 😀
Just came across this article, thought you might like to have a look at it 😢
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Perfect, the whole system amazes me. Thank you for posting it!
Which are smarter, more playful? Awesome video, the narrator makes it so easy to learn. The voice is pure gold, so smooth and calm.
In other words crows are annoying; raven not so.
+TemplarX2 - I might say, crows are more annoying, and ravens can be, but not to the same extent and no where near the noise level and numbers crows "murders" can grow to.
+TemplarX2 crows having nothing on humans when it comes to annoyance..
Outstanding! Thank you for such a great vid on telling these two gorgeous creatures apart. I love them both so much and it's always bothered me that I could not distinguish between the two. ♥
I live in the UK and have been wondering if i had crows or ravens near where i live. Watching the video, the pair near me are very noisy, so now i know! They also swoop people and chase cats, and are chasing and killing magpies all the time. They caught one yesterday. Great video, very informative and helpful.
3000KJH I just have Ravens.
If they’re loud, they are crows.
I want to come uk and work there
Thank you so much!!!!! I have both in my neighborhood and I enjoy them both but I could never distinguish them. I've been watching your videos, and you're wonderful. Thank you so much for taking the time to post them. It means a lot to me. Hugs!
0:51 lol that mans little, “eh.”
We have crows/ravens in our front yard, and it is driving me batty trying to distinguish which it is. This is the best explanation I have found to point out the differences. I will be going out shortly to assess with the new-found information. Thank you so much for sharing :)
Have fun, let us know what you find!
Isn't there some medieval/colonial superstition that ravens show up right before battle?
TheCommanderBond007 It wasn't superstition, it was truth. In medieval days, people fought so many battles, that ravens and crows became accustomed to notice when troops gathered together. They knew they were sure to get a meal, so they would pay attention to the paths of the troops, and when they saw two bands of soldiers coming together, they knew wherever they would meet would be the dinner table.
Big R Very interesting.
+Big R That is amazing! Didnt know that at all and that kind of behavior does make sense.
+TheCommanderBond007 Where I live we call them "The Undertakers" I wonder why...
+TheCommanderBond007 - Big R is correct. Ravens and crows are opportunists with great memories. If you were a group of ravens or crows and came upon a successful garrison of Roman Soldiers making their way through Gaul it doesn't take a lot of imagination to figure out that the birds just may be more than happy to follow this group and wait till the battles were over...
I just spent an 45 minutes reading research on Crows and Ravens. Your video instantly taught me more. Thank you!
Maybe you're more of a visual learner like me? As a chef I can read a recipe and go what the? I watch someone do it once and it's forever!
this is one of the best videos i have come across on how to see the difference between the two, very well done and put together!!!!!!
I love the ravens... had a nest of them behind my house every year... waited to see them teach the little ones to fly... beautiful birds... crows are so noisy...
Perfect. And that WAS a raven that just flew overhead. He rawked. Thank you.
My favorite birds!!!
Thanks. This is one of those things I've felt for years like I should know, but didn't. Now I do.
I just found a crow are raven its in my living room don't know if I'm going to be stuck with it its injured so I called wildlife but there supposed to call back I got a parrot a rabbit a dog fish and a hamster I really don't need anymore but I'm willing to keep it I'm naming it Stevie nicks
Desiree Savala What happened to the raven?
So many subtle differences that I guess are super clear after observing them for a while
Well, ravens are a type of crow, crows are also a type of crow. Yeah, taxonomy is bad at naming things.
This deserves a spot on PBS lol. Great video
Another difference: Crows generally prefer staying outdoors, while it's been known for a raven to gain entrance to a human dwelling, perch on a bust above a doorway and spread still more gloom to an already brooding poet.
+Galantski I feel your pain. Anyway I have a pair of magpies building a nest just across from my garden, and I found it wonderful. I'm still none the wiser how they start to build it, and with no hands. Clever bastards.
I was watching an old X-file episode that supposed had Ravens in it and they used crows...this video taught me the difference in their sounds and calls...thank you!
Yeah I don't know why they do that. It's like when they show an eagle, and use the sound of a hawk ...
Ravens say never more 😎
Watching this in late November 2020. Best video I’ve seen at displaying the differences and getting to the point. Awesome!
"....quoth the raven ; NEVERMORE "
Funny, I've heard ravens say quite a bit, and I've heard them mimic some unbelievable sounds, but I've never heard one say nevermore, and I've never heard then mimic a crows caw...caw...caw
Your a great teacher... going show this to my kids... thanks for your work!
The Crow = Eric Draven
Excellently done! I wish there were more videos like this explaining some of the finer details of bird identification.
But which is smarter?
+BlueCrazyMonkey good question
Ravens are dumb as rocks compared to crows.
+Ewan M "?" can you share a reason why you'd say such a thing?
+theravendiaries Crows are one of smartest animals of all, and the number one smartest bird, there have been multiple tests to prove so. Crows are the only non-primate species who use tools of any sort, and have puzzle solving skills challenging that of a seven year old human child. Crows can remember human faces and whether they're dangerous or not, and pass that information down through generations (crows really do hold grudges). Don't get me wrong I have nothing against your videos and if anything prefer ravens to crows. But when it comes to intelligence, the truth is that crows are more clever than ravens. Keep up the great videos.
+theravendiaries But saying ravens are as dumb as rocks may have been a little harsh, my apologies. Ravens certainly are smarter than most birds, but I'd still say crows are smarter.
Hey I love the, "wings that sounded a little like badminton rackets" comment. Great description! Thank you!
Thank you for that. It was exactly what I was looking for and more than I expected.
Thank you for the concise information, and your voice bespeaks your strong loving nature.
Clear and to the point with nothing unnecessary. Have a like!
a raven is a crow
A raven is a crow, like a wolf is a dog. But I'd say there's a big difference between wolf and a dog, just like there's a big difference between a raven and a crow...
They are both members of the Corvid family. They are related, but not the same. A raven is Corvus corax. The American crow is Corvus brachyrhynchos. Also in the corvid family are rooks, jackdaws, jays, magpies, treepies, choughs and nutcrackers.
theravendiaries You need to clarify and use scientific names.
Raven = Corvus Corax that belongs to Corvus (crow) genus.
***** Just because two things are biologically similar doesn't mean they are the same thing. They may have very different behavior patterns. You can safely keep a dog in your home. You may not want to keep a wolf . Now I love wolves. They are one of my favorite animals, but they are wild and that means unpredictable.
Mountain lions live in the woods, lions in the savannah, tigers in the jungle. They would likely not want to trade environments, but all are felines.
Ravens and crows have some very different behaviors as well despite looking similar.
sorry but its not a behavior issue. a raven is a crow,the largest. as is a magpie as is a jay. they all have different latin names but they are all still crows
This is really a good vid. . . Thanks so much - i have read and looked at a lot so to tell the difference and all i've really been able to find is the bill and the size and a difference in call. But - you show both at the same in comparison and tell so many details. I love crows - they were always around in the country where i grew up keeping you company :}
Ravens look more Jewish
and crows are smarter. So the raven must be the jew of the corvus genus.
how about more eastern European or arabic - there are many Jewish people with different noses - sorry, but i think remarks like this are idiotic and very unintelligent! even if you meant it as a joke.
alexa penn 😡
Wow that's racist...
alexa penn 😤😧
This is the best comparison ever. Ty
Love Ravens
Seems to me the sound they make is the quickest and easiest way to tell the difference. They're so different from each other. Thanks video maker.
thanks, this video has made it easier for me to distinguish between a crow and a raven, which was my goal upon watching it
I really liked your video and the way you presented it. Plus I learned about crows and ravens!
i use footage of what i presume is a raven at the end of all my videos. take a look and let me know if it was a crow or a raven please
Thanks so much for sharing this with me love from Texas
Very cool. Loved the shots of them in flight as well.
This was very informative! Now I know! I subscribed and thank you.
Excellent. This sort and quality of guide is hard to find, even on the interwebs. Thanks!
Excellent footage and information. Very well done illustration of the differences. thanks!
"Slow Motion Crows" "Slow Motion Crows" they look so gracefull when slowed down... great video you have there, very educational...
Oh My Goodness this video is the BEST Thank You for this work of art😃
size! winner raven!
Cute draw✨
Really really helpful thank you. I just love both birds
Thank you for posting , I love them both
awesome thank you!
Fascinating facts presented clearly with stunning video footage examples!
This is a great video. I have wondered this for 40 years...
Both are lovely.
Wow. Is that Raven at the end really "playing" for personal enjoyment when it seems to be using the wind to soar and diving for speed just to open up and do it over again? Beautiful.
Wow, thank you SO MUCH! This was so informative and enjoyable to watch! I stumbled upon your video about you befriending a raven couple, now I found this, you have a new fan :)
Thanks bro this helps a lot I just moved to the high desert for the first time I said I notice a difference between a raven and a crow I never knew there was 2 difference
I absolutely love this video! It made it so simple and easy to follow!
I love ravens and I love crows too! Thank you for this video, I learned a lot from it. Ravens and crows are the best bird species ever! =)
this is really really useful as someone whos trying to decide which one to make a character be! ravens feel cartoonishly regal, while crows are just these funny little guys that caw around :) the contrast between them when you gave the examples felt funny too
i love this video :)
I've been in the avian field for nearly 30yrs now. This is quite a beautiful piece on the differences between these cousin corvids. Of course, i've been out in the field quite a bit, and i've seen some crows around the 21in mark with 3.5ft wingspans. Trust me folks, these were BIG, BIG, Crows. However, on average Common Ravens will still be around the 24-27in length, with 4-4.5ft wingspans. Crows also do not soar and cannot come close, to the aerial acrobatics of a Raven. Which rival some Hawks.
Great detail in video. Recently had an interesting encounter with a brazen crow and Eagle. I sent you a video response