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  • MLB Insider Robert Murray joins JD Bunkis to size up the trade market for Kevin Gausman, break down how the Blue Jays can improve their roster in the short and long-term, and note how they can learn from past mistakes.
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  • @choocharoo
    @choocharoo 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +6

    This entire episode just confirms there is no pivot. Yes they wanna make money cause of the Reno’s but the reality is we need a complete tear down and rebuild.
    Anything else is an exercise in futility and Rogers trying to fix the fanbase into still coming for games.

    • @AlejandroKirkisObese
      @AlejandroKirkisObese 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      maybe this is to bring in new young players as part of a "rebuild" if you catch my drift, the rebuild has started with the stadium first.

  • @lamarmartin847
    @lamarmartin847 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

    Cut deep in management not the players. Management has accepted that mediocrity is okay and until that changes, the team won’t change

  • @biglemoncoke4095
    @biglemoncoke4095 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Why trading a player when he is in his down year? Buy high Sell Low strategy? Gausman still have 2 years left, you can trade him next year or during offseason. Unless you got execeptional value back, that you cannot turn down. If Gausman is traded, that means Jays have giving up this season and or next too, do Atkins has the guts to do? I doubt. He usuallly play safe, and conservative approach. When he make risky trades, usually turns out in a bad way.

  • @bigbob2835
    @bigbob2835 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +7

    If they don't CUT the President, GM, and Manager, I will never watch them until then. All three are out of their depth and will NEVER win a World Series. Ppl can try to push blame on the players but the fish rots from the head.

    • @shaunduquette5992
      @shaunduquette5992 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      100%,they are the ones who have to whip the players into action or dump their egos out the door by trade.

    • @JD_-_
      @JD_-_ 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Your list isn’t complete you forgot Aceâ€Ķ

    • @AlejandroKirkisObese
      @AlejandroKirkisObese 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@JD_-_ ace who?

    • @matthewcouch6070
      @matthewcouch6070 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@AlejandroKirkisObese Ace is the mascot

    • @scottcarter6623
      @scottcarter6623 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@JD_-_ What's wrong with Ace? You just lack Joy in your life.

  • @Zeneroth
    @Zeneroth 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    It's clear the Jays mgmt got them into this position by not signing more bats, that being said JDas well keep saying they need to trade Vlad or Bo, at pennies on the dollar that's going to be hard, kind of have to hope Bo turns it around and that you can trade him in the off season. Jeff Blair also was telling Barker that he didn't think a down year would affect how much he would sign an extension for, respectfully disagree there. Tough situation all around. Even if someone replaces Atkins, not an easy fix here.

  • @n3d_ludd379
    @n3d_ludd379 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    yes to trading Guzman, highly rated amongst team should give a half descent return. Waive Springer, trade Bo and Vlad.

  • @shaunduquette5992
    @shaunduquette5992 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Bowden Francis being a starter?That is crackhead thinking. Nobody believed those cheapskates.

  • @martylee185
    @martylee185 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Cuts ? Start with waistlines, anyone over a 35 waist is gone !! Ahem, Vogelbach ? Schneider ?? lol No post game buffet for you guys !!

  • @Reel-Justice
    @Reel-Justice 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    Shapiro is to blame for everything. He's the President. He signed off on these silly offseason signings after Atkins said last October that he had to be better as a GM. Well, he's worse. Shapiro said Atkins has done an amazing job. Atkins said there was no holes in this locomotive team. They fire a rookie manager and hire another rookie manager.
    Both Shapiro and Atkins are clueless.
    Shapiro also destroyed SkyDome. It was an exciting homerun park. The outfield reno changed the airflow in the dome and it's no longer a homerun park. Shapiro knew this since last year. So what does Shapiro do? He signs more weak hitting infielders.
    During a lot of games, 7 of 9 position players are actually infielders.
    You just can't help but laugh at how incompetent Rogers is to hire a President with a 30+ year record of never winning anything and think things will be different.

    • @NotExplicable
      @NotExplicable 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      Partly because I think the team wanted international money to restock the cupboard basically hedging the season. We need better prospects over the next 1-2 years especially with contracts coming up

    • @Reel-Justice
      @Reel-Justice 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@NotExplicable Shapiro has been a failure on every level. Destroyed the stadium. Look at the eyesore netting down the line where the new angled seating is. Along the wall where the new seating is, is indentations in the wall where the ball bounces back toward the infield when he hits this spot.
      Waves of talent? Where are they? The Jays don't even have one pitcher they can call up after 9 years. Not one defensive player is MLB ready.
      Shapiro spent over $100 million dollars paying players and a manger to go away.
      Shapiro got nothing for Jose, EE, Donaldson, Dickey, Price etc. This is real reason why the Jays are so bad right now, he got nothing for these All Star players.
      Both Baltimore and the Jays were wildcard teams in 2016. They have both rebuilt since then and the O's are light years ahead of Shapiro and Shapiro has record budgets to play with. The O's have also been better than the Jays for 2 seasons already.
      The attendance is going nowhere but down.
      The Guardians have been a great team since Cleveland got rid of Shapiro and Atkins. The Indians had 450 sellout home games in a row, or whatever it was, until Shapiro took over. He destroyed the fan base and now he's doing it in Toronto.

    • @NotExplicable
      @NotExplicable 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      @@Reel-Justice i think we already know this is somewhat of a wasted era of snake oil salesman, unless ownership wants to make big changes nothing will change, we need to get back to sucking for a few years quickly otherwise nothing will change, winning during the pandemic was stupid, calling up Kirk during the short season just because he can hit was a terrible idea.

    • @Reel-Justice
      @Reel-Justice 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@NotExplicable Trading Moreno was silly. Danny won't be returning and now they need a catcher.
      Jays need to sign Soto in the offseason, but I think he will be a Brave next year and AA will secretly laugh at Shapiro. Again!
      I'm thrilled to see the small crowds and people now refusing to support this terrible baseball front office.

    • @NotExplicable
      @NotExplicable 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      @@Reel-Justice can't see Soto coming here now. We needed an outfielder but yeah Moreno would be preferable

  • @djl9919
    @djl9919 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    so the Blue Jays can't get a player like Cole Ragans for Yimi Garcia? let's target Canadian prospects like Cubs Owen Caissie or Brewers Tyler Black.

  • @JTbets81
    @JTbets81 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Everyone wants Atkins head that's credible.I don't hear no one talking Shapiro this guy was suppose to be some great architec from Cleveland and it's a epic fail.

  • @dukem991
    @dukem991 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Sellers or do you mean bottom dwellers

  • @ChrisEaston-oy5en
    @ChrisEaston-oy5en 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    the team is a joke.i think its a proper coach is needed

    • @Spanishflea.
      @Spanishflea. 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Proper management is needed. The upper management is entirely at fault for fielding this team.

  • @NotExplicable
    @NotExplicable 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Vladdy 27x8
    Bo 27x8

  • @scottcarter6623
    @scottcarter6623 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Don't believe a word Atkins says. The only reason he is saying they are working on an extension is because when they do trade them he want to blame the players. He will claim that the team offered them a good deal, but the players didn't want to stay. Everything he says is just about blaming others and covering his ass.

  • @Lanse1984
    @Lanse1984 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    If I was GM
    Re-sign/keep
    Guerrero - 11 years - 300M - if not trade
    Varsho - 7 years - 125M - on top of current control
    Jansen - 6 years - 100M - if not trade
    Schneider = keep
    Manoah = keep
    Bassit = keep
    Gausman = keep
    Trade
    Bichette
    IKF
    Springer = will have to eat salary
    Garcia
    Everyone else you may get value for that are on short contracts
    Move up from AAA fulltime
    Horwitz
    Martinez
    Barger
    Nathan Lukes
    Even if you do all these moves, i bet you the team is no worst than they are right now lol

  • @whyimsmarterthanyou
    @whyimsmarterthanyou 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Luv that the worm has finally turned. Sportsnet can't lie anymore. They have to call the team for what they are: horribly underperforming. These tears are so sweet.

  • @archangelgabriel5316
    @archangelgabriel5316 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    This guy thinks FLA will win. L.

  • @gcollier46
    @gcollier46 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    It's the first week in June and you want to tear it all apart.
    Typical Toronto media person that knows ðŸ’ĐðŸ’ĐðŸ’ĐðŸ’ĐðŸ’Đ

    • @shaunduquette5992
      @shaunduquette5992 2 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      They are terribly feeble,no success is coming. Get what you can and clear your cap.