When you whine like this, you kill the game even more dude. You don't have the final say in if the game lives or not. Others enjoy it. Stay with your DoA5 if it makes ya happy. SonicFox knows a hell lot about DOA?? No, let him stay in MK. He gets his ass flattened in Tekken, SF, or anything where the Asian players loom large.
Characters with multiple time stamps were talked about and mentioned at different times. Last time stamp is usually for placement. 3:09 Bayman 5:15 Raidou 8:0622:40 Leifang 11:05 Honoka 13:39 Marie Rose 15:53 Brad Wong 17:3521:15 Hitomi 19:10 Bass 22:05 Lisa 23:1534:17 Momiji 25:30 Zack 30:151:33:44 Diego 33:5539:34 Mila 36:20 Jann Lee 38:05 Helena 43:35 Nyotengu 47:40 Tamaki 50:401:01:17 Hayate 52:001:17:53 Kula 53:071:07:24 1:15:25 NiCO 54:43 Kokoro 58:43 Rachel 1:04:15 Ayane 1:08:00 1:21:50 Kasumi 1:10:54 1:27:00 Christie 1:12:18 Eliot 1:16:16 Rig 1:19:35 Mai 1:24:22 Phase 4 1:27:00 Tina/Christie 1:36:00 Hayabusa Great video, man! Even though I personally like DOA6, I know a lot of people don't and we can only look towards the future for DOA and hope they make the right decisions.
I actually got into DOA because of the fun as hell DOA6 tourney videos you guys did last year. This game has been a blast to play, and has made my quarantine awesome. NiCO will always be my girl, and Jann Lee can go eat a giant banana.
NGL, this would be a nice nail in the coffin for the game. After a year, most people just lost interest. Most of my regular people on the friends list don't play anymore. Doa6 has made me a worse player than I was in 5LR. Make a DOA7 instead of a 6U.
I agree with eliot's placing. Hes good to be sure but hes one of, if not, the most linear character in the game. And with the number of mids in each of his strings he is easily held or sidestepped. The only reasonable way to counteract this would be to use shorter strings ending with K. The only time he can use longer strings is for 46p combo ender off a launch. I might be a bit off but only cause I haven't played in a while
Before I say anything just wanna say thanks for the DOA6 content Team Ninja screwed this games future and I'm worried that we won't even get a DOA7 at all. I'm gonna talk about the list in another comment.
Great tier list! Mai is my main and I just told a friend yesterday that I feel like she is one of the most underrated characters in the game and that she might actually be S-tier! Same goes for Phase 4, but man sadly the shitty netcode can really screw u over when playing her online...
Phase 4 also suffers from an issue that I think only affects her. After you hit P+K, there's a small window where the game does not accept any P or K inputs, but it does accept H inputs. This means if you hit H+K or T too soon after doing a Chifu or Tenfu cancel, the game will read it as H and you'll free cancel instead, which can really mess up your combos because you have to time when to press H+K or T. Sadly, this was never addressed in any of the patches.
great video man.. loved this. right into words everything i was thinking.. even right at the end you were talkin about 5 and the level of creativity we had in 5 with the tecs and stun game i miss so much.
You ever think of doing a lore tier list? Some of the games had terrible storylines, but I think it helped flesh out some much needed character development. I'd like to see one
Damn I always talk about Soul Calibur 3 cause it brought alot of the good single player content that most 3D fighters these days still can't bring to the table. Two story modes, create a soul, decent tutorial and neat unlockables. Competitively that game was a glitched mess tho, and I'm still mad we never got a console port of the fixed Arcade version that came afterwards.
At 5.20 I would have said that raidou needs a rework. He should have a new movelist and be some kind of safe. Hopefully they don't bring raidou back in doa7 or revamp him in 6u cause it's frustrating to be a raidou main and get stomped by everyone. Ps: It's just an opinion.
" I don't remember anyone who talks about soul Calibur three" Me: * confused Siegfried noises* Not gonna lie- I like Soul Calibur 2 more so I can't even talk-
@@PinkCheshire001 it is the Most unbalanced SC ever with Lots of stupid Bugs and glitches... Now the SC3 Arcaden Version on the other hand is really good
Bayman here disrespects his other comrade from Tekken 7, Dragunov. KT really didn't like this bland of a character at all while Dragunov got so much love both with his design, character and moveset.
Phase 4 suffers from an issue that I think only affects her. After you hit P+K by itself with any character, there's a small window where the game does not accept any P or K inputs, but it does accept H inputs. If I remember right, this isn't an issue if you use P+K with a directional input. This means if you're playing Phase and you hit H+K too soon after doing a Chifu or T too soon after doing a Chifu or Tenfu cancel, the game will read it as H and you'll free cancel instead, which means you drop your combo. You have to time your H+K and T presses, which can also lead to dropping your combo. I'm pretty sure this wasn't an issue in 5, and this was never addressed in any of the patches for 6. Thankfully P, K, and P+K follow-ups can be done just by mashing. That said, I'm glad that despite that she's still a great character, though I do agree that you need practice, practice, practice and study all the other characters inside and out because she is very unsafe. Also, I would argue that Nagikaze was the best thing she got in 6, but then they added 4H+K and she got even more ridiculous, even after they nerfed Tenfu P+K.
I know I am barely an above average player when it comes to DOA5/Ultimate/5LR (had a very strict tourney friend who taught me the mechanics and such of the series alongside how to play Hitomi) but it genuinely felt most of my losses in DOA6 were to people that were of lower skill than me. I don't know what it was about this game that made it feel this way but it was like I was a worse player than I was when I started playing it which burnt me out. It honestly caused me to stop playing all of the games until this past month where I started playing the series again. Would love to see a DOA game that takes itself more seriously, has the visuals (or even better) of DOA6, respects their characters, and still allows the creativity I felt with learning DOA5.
As a phase 4 main this made me very happy 😄 but at the same time in my opinion I feel that Kasumi, Christie, and Tina are better than her but that’s just me 😌 and that’s just going off of match ups and how unsafe she is compared to them that’s all
I mean considering the amount of A and S tier characters, it makes me so sad that doa6 tournaments were so stifled. Imagine seeing a Kokoro or Tina win Evo. Damn...
I like this tier list at least my main made someone's A tier :) .. In my heart shes tippy top of S++ tier but my brain has her at mid B lol but I got veterans placing her in A so it's a damn good day for me... Momiji is my main.. had to add that my bad
From the flow of the conversation there should have been another tier between Nyo-Tengu and the rest in a-tier and there should be another one between top 3 S-tier and the rest of S-tier.
i plan to get into the doa series, i seen the stories and im ready to start playing though ik with fighting games im basically jumping into the wolves.
About the list. This seems about right. Rikuto knew they fucked Bayman Nice to see Marie out of D rank she never seemed like the "worst" Still think Zack is slept on wish he were higher Hitomi always seems like an all rounder B feels right Nyo and Rachel right next to each other is accurate actually glad Nyo is lower this time around. I don't see Tamaki being this high, but I can't blame y'all since, like you said "they never had a chance" we have nothing but theory on her. Surprised Ayane isn't S tier. Personal hatred: Fuck Nico, Kula, and Rig. Still think Kula is busted and that Rig never loses his turn. I main Nyo BTW Christie is the glow up queen. I never thought I'd see the day she'd be over fucking Kasumi. Phase deserves her spot, she's good but fair due to difficulty just like Akuma in T7 Hayabusa is still the king!!! New Ninja Gaiden game when? (Who am I kidding) Overall great list in gonna miss these tier videos if DOA5 is still kicking I may start playing that over 6.
Nicelist and interesting conversations. But I am still surprised Ayane is not in S-Tier and regarding the state of DOA6.. yeah it's pretty much dead but i will not go back to DOA5. I hate the emphasize on sit-down stuns there, the stupid Power launcher height, the wierd sidestep that got introduced, Ein bein trash and the environment graphics are DEPRESSING and BAD! If you guys like it though and go back to it than that's fine with me. But all what is kinda left for me now when it comes to DOA are the great memories of the past.. Before GREED and DAMN Guest characters got into this franchise or i am just getting to old to "appreciate" this current state of fighting games.. 😐
Lol actually it Brad might of got nerfed cause of me don't get me wrong I'm garbage but I would abuse that close hit plus it was zero on block I just Played kinda trashy I even beat Mrs zakurye with little knowledge of the character but then she caught on and and wrecked me by the way I hate fighting Lisa the most but I like the way she plays her but most others play cheap not that I mind to much considering sometimes I play the same
But bass 1p is also a 50 50, and arguably better than diago . i cant see diago that high and his strings are not that respectable .im so sad . but i guess cuz he on the simple side don't requires as much thanking but
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Time stamps Courtesy of @fairlyunknown
Characters with multiple time stamps were talked about and mentioned at different times. Last time stamp is usually for placement.
3:09 Bayman
5:15 Raidou
8:06 22:40 Leifang
11:05 Honoka
13:39 Marie Rose
15:53 Brad Wong
17:35 21:15 Hitomi
19:10 Bass
22:05 Lisa
23:15 34:17 Momiji
25:30 Zack
30:15 1:33:44 Diego
33:55 39:34 Mila
36:20 Jann Lee
38:05 Helena
43:35 Nyotengu
47:40 Tamaki
50:40 1:01:17 Hayate
52:00 1:17:53 Kula
53:07 1:07:24 1:15:25 NiCO
54:43 Kokoro
58:43 Rachel
1:04:15 Ayane
1:08:00 1:21:50 Kasumi
1:10:54 1:27:00 Christie
1:12:18 Eliot
1:16:16 Rig
1:19:35 Mai
1:24:22 Phase 4
1:27:00 Tina/Christie
1:36:00 Hayabusa
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When you whine like this, you kill the game even more dude. You don't have the final say in if the game lives or not. Others enjoy it. Stay with your DoA5 if it makes ya happy. SonicFox knows a hell lot about DOA?? No, let him stay in MK. He gets his ass flattened in Tekken, SF, or anything where the Asian players loom large.
@@wa2368 fam, shut up. Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion or what you have to say.. on an 11 month old video.
Characters with multiple time stamps were talked about and mentioned at different times. Last time stamp is usually for placement.
3:09 Bayman
5:15 Raidou
8:06 22:40 Leifang
11:05 Honoka
13:39 Marie Rose
15:53 Brad Wong
17:35 21:15 Hitomi
19:10 Bass
22:05 Lisa
23:15 34:17 Momiji
25:30 Zack
30:15 1:33:44 Diego
33:55 39:34 Mila
36:20 Jann Lee
38:05 Helena
43:35 Nyotengu
47:40 Tamaki
50:40 1:01:17 Hayate
52:00 1:17:53 Kula
53:07 1:07:24 1:15:25 NiCO
54:43 Kokoro
58:43 Rachel
1:04:15 Ayane
1:08:00 1:21:50 Kasumi
1:10:54 1:27:00 Christie
1:12:18 Eliot
1:16:16 Rig
1:19:35 Mai
1:24:22 Phase 4
1:27:00 Tina/Christie
1:36:00 Hayabusa
Great video, man! Even though I personally like DOA6, I know a lot of people don't and we can only look towards the future for DOA and hope they make the right decisions.
Thank you for this!
@@EmeryReigns Thank you for taking the time to make this video! It's the least someone can do :D
Where's la Mariposa?
@@XxzanesterxX lisa
We need a Dead or Alive 7 in the works.
Lord Hayabusa resting atop his throne, all is right with the world
I actually got into DOA because of the fun as hell DOA6 tourney videos you guys did last year. This game has been a blast to play, and has made my quarantine awesome. NiCO will always be my girl, and Jann Lee can go eat a giant banana.
NGL, this would be a nice nail in the coffin for the game. After a year, most people just lost interest. Most of my regular people on the friends list don't play anymore.
Doa6 has made me a worse player than I was in 5LR.
Make a DOA7 instead of a 6U.
“Bayman can play the ground game too but Bayman is ass “😭😭😭😭😭
this is why Bass should be C, his speed and neutral options suck
This was good! Breaking every character down.. keep up the good work! I too hope DOA comes back better than ever
Lol I've hated Jann for the longest time now someone else finally realizes my pain😂
As a Tina main i am proud to have found this video, but also had no clue ppl held Tina in high regard considering no one ever picks her
I agree with eliot's placing. Hes good to be sure but hes one of, if not, the most linear character in the game. And with the number of mids in each of his strings he is easily held or sidestepped. The only reasonable way to counteract this would be to use shorter strings ending with K. The only time he can use longer strings is for 46p combo ender off a launch. I might be a bit off but only cause I haven't played in a while
Before I say anything just wanna say thanks for the DOA6 content Team Ninja screwed this games future and I'm worried that we won't even get a DOA7 at all. I'm gonna talk about the list in another comment.
closing comments legit made me sad, hoping for the best for 7
Oh lord here comes the Kulas after watching
Great tier list!
Mai is my main and I just told a friend yesterday that I feel like she is one of the most underrated characters in the game and that she might actually be S-tier!
Same goes for Phase 4, but man sadly the shitty netcode can really screw u over when playing her online...
Phase 4 also suffers from an issue that I think only affects her. After you hit P+K, there's a small window where the game does not accept any P or K inputs, but it does accept H inputs. This means if you hit H+K or T too soon after doing a Chifu or Tenfu cancel, the game will read it as H and you'll free cancel instead, which can really mess up your combos because you have to time when to press H+K or T. Sadly, this was never addressed in any of the patches.
great video man.. loved this. right into words everything i was thinking.. even right at the end you were talkin about 5 and the level of creativity we had in 5 with the tecs and stun game i miss so much.
You ever think of doing a lore tier list? Some of the games had terrible storylines, but I think it helped flesh out some much needed character development. I'd like to see one
Timestamps anyone?
Damn I always talk about Soul Calibur 3 cause it brought alot of the good single player content that most 3D fighters these days still can't bring to the table. Two story modes, create a soul, decent tutorial and neat unlockables.
Competitively that game was a glitched mess tho, and I'm still mad we never got a console port of the fixed Arcade version that came afterwards.
I suppose there is a DOA6 ultimate edition to steal your money again, DOA7 won't be here so soon
The moment I start playing DOA6 again I bump into your video again. It just makes sense. Glad to see this. Just a casual so I don't think about this.
I've actually fought alot of honokas my second most fought character first is kasumi
Yes my man Jann gets his respect!!!
At 5.20 I would have said that raidou needs a rework. He should have a new movelist and be some kind of safe. Hopefully they don't bring raidou back in doa7 or revamp him in 6u cause it's frustrating to be a raidou main and get stomped by everyone.
Ps: It's just an opinion.
I only want two things: fix Raidou’s useless move set and put Diego in 5
When it comes to Team Ninja, it never gonna happen. They already treated my man Leon like shit. I never ever gonna forgive them for that.
Damn; it's inspiring to see discussions like this between people who deeply know their craft.
Bayman is definitely not D tier 😂😭 My bones keep getting snapped
He gets disrespected too hard when he’s b teir realisticly
@@thatguytheo6676 exactly 😂
Damn Marie will never get out that c 😂
Fr🤣😂
To tiny and fragile lol
Yass thank u 4 making this I've been waiting
ooo my Hitomi is B tier uh ? , was kinda expecting that :3
" I don't remember anyone who talks about soul Calibur three"
Me: * confused Siegfried noises*
Not gonna lie-
I like Soul Calibur 2 more so I can't even talk-
SC3 on PS2 is actually a DISGRACE not worth to talk about
@@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 Why does no one like Soul Calibur three xD I can see why a tad bit, but i can't see why everyone hates it lol
@@PinkCheshire001 it is the Most unbalanced SC ever with Lots of stupid Bugs and glitches... Now the SC3 Arcaden Version on the other hand is really good
@@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 ahh i can understand that right there
And abyss was the most irritating boss ever xD
I loved Chronicles of the sword from sc3 though, it was so much fun
Bayman here disrespects his other comrade from Tekken 7, Dragunov. KT really didn't like this bland of a character at all while Dragunov got so much love both with his design, character and moveset.
Oh Man, I so need to watch this when I get a chance
Phase 4 suffers from an issue that I think only affects her. After you hit P+K by itself with any character, there's a small window where the game does not accept any P or K inputs, but it does accept H inputs. If I remember right, this isn't an issue if you use P+K with a directional input. This means if you're playing Phase and you hit H+K too soon after doing a Chifu or T too soon after doing a Chifu or Tenfu cancel, the game will read it as H and you'll free cancel instead, which means you drop your combo. You have to time your H+K and T presses, which can also lead to dropping your combo. I'm pretty sure this wasn't an issue in 5, and this was never addressed in any of the patches for 6. Thankfully P, K, and P+K follow-ups can be done just by mashing. That said, I'm glad that despite that she's still a great character, though I do agree that you need practice, practice, practice and study all the other characters inside and out because she is very unsafe.
Also, I would argue that Nagikaze was the best thing she got in 6, but then they added 4H+K and she got even more ridiculous, even after they nerfed Tenfu P+K.
I know I am barely an above average player when it comes to DOA5/Ultimate/5LR (had a very strict tourney friend who taught me the mechanics and such of the series alongside how to play Hitomi) but it genuinely felt most of my losses in DOA6 were to people that were of lower skill than me.
I don't know what it was about this game that made it feel this way but it was like I was a worse player than I was when I started playing it which burnt me out. It honestly caused me to stop playing all of the games until this past month where I started playing the series again. Would love to see a DOA game that takes itself more seriously, has the visuals (or even better) of DOA6, respects their characters, and still allows the creativity I felt with learning DOA5.
I've been on Helena since DOA 3.
Props man she's not easy I love her but I suck with her lol
@@thatpersoneveryoneknowsbut7533 I'm not the best either but she gels with me!
LISA aye!!!!! Babygirl is the chosen one
This is wild. Bass and Bayman should be A-tier
39:42 That's my Girl right there is Mila the MMA Fighter
Poor bayman
U should've ended the video with a compilation of Hayabusa beating out moves with while rising k lol
As a phase 4 main this made me very happy 😄 but at the same time in my opinion I feel that Kasumi, Christie, and Tina are better than her but that’s just me 😌 and that’s just going off of match ups and how unsafe she is compared to them that’s all
Aw doa the only fighting game where heavy weights can fuck shit up
I mean considering the amount of A and S tier characters, it makes me so sad that doa6 tournaments were so stifled. Imagine seeing a Kokoro or Tina win Evo. Damn...
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I don’t even play this game. I just love tier list videos
at this point if anyone asks about hayabusa it's not because they don't know what makes him broken it's because we love hearing your rants on him lol
Xcaliburbladez dope as fuck
I liked Diego. I hope they keep him in the series. Maybe give him better hair. Maybe give him a romantic subplot with Helena. I don't hate doa6
23:05 Lol well if there's one thing the gave Diego it's heavy damage, especially from some of the least complex and most boring strings in the game
I like this tier list at least my main made someone's A tier :) .. In my heart shes tippy top of S++ tier but my brain has her at mid B lol but I got veterans placing her in A so it's a damn good day for me... Momiji is my main.. had to add that my bad
This is based on offline play right? How about online tier list?
I'm just OK at the game, but I think Rachel is amazing. I would put her on top of the a teir. I'm not playing people at tournament level though.
Damn DOA6 is that bad huh but i still have hope for DOA!!!
Same
Still got that hope?
@naruto78961 nope none at all lmao game is bad 👎 😂
Great and in-depth content!
Emery what you think of my content?😃
From the flow of the conversation there should have been another tier between Nyo-Tengu and the rest in a-tier and there should be another one between top 3 S-tier and the rest of S-tier.
Consider the fact i main ayane everthing u said is true😂
Am I the only one who misses critical burst in doa6?
I'll say a good Jane Lee that has great neutral, Punishment, Keep out and mix up.
He is pretty frustrating
People out here really losing to Elliot!?!?
i plan to get into the doa series, i seen the stories and im ready to start playing though ik with fighting games im basically jumping into the wolves.
This is so entertaining 😂😂😂😂
About the list. This seems about right.
Rikuto knew they fucked Bayman
Nice to see Marie out of D rank she never seemed like the "worst"
Still think Zack is slept on wish he were higher
Hitomi always seems like an all rounder B feels right
Nyo and Rachel right next to each other is accurate actually glad Nyo is lower this time around.
I don't see Tamaki being this high, but I can't blame y'all since, like you said "they never had a chance" we have nothing but theory on her.
Surprised Ayane isn't S tier.
Personal hatred: Fuck Nico, Kula, and Rig. Still think Kula is busted and that Rig never loses his turn. I main Nyo BTW
Christie is the glow up queen. I never thought I'd see the day she'd be over fucking Kasumi.
Phase deserves her spot, she's good but fair due to difficulty just like Akuma in T7
Hayabusa is still the king!!! New Ninja Gaiden game when? (Who am I kidding)
Overall great list in gonna miss these tier videos if DOA5 is still kicking I may start playing that over 6.
I'd still say this is the better DoA game simply because it doesn't have Gen-Fu.
Y'all are insane for putting Bass in B tier! He is definitely A tier!
Man this is so old lol
@@EmeryReigns I'm just seeing this video lol it randomly popped up on my page 😄
Nicelist and interesting conversations.
But I am still surprised Ayane is not in S-Tier and regarding the state of DOA6.. yeah it's pretty much dead but i will not go back to DOA5. I hate the emphasize on sit-down stuns there, the stupid Power launcher height, the wierd sidestep that got introduced, Ein bein trash and the environment graphics are DEPRESSING and BAD! If you guys like it though and go back to it than that's fine with me.
But all what is kinda left for me now when it comes to DOA are the great memories of the past.. Before GREED and DAMN Guest characters got into this franchise or i am just getting to old to "appreciate" this current state of fighting games.. 😐
I have DoA 5 LR and 6, but I miss 2 3 and 4 so much. They gotta put them on steam or something
@@melamela.
Tbh a part of me is waiting for a DOA3 Ultimate for over 10 ! Years now although it might never happen
I haven't played since 4 and I just picked up 6. It feels nice imo, but I'm not a competitor...
I thought diego would be B tier thats just me i dont know but hey opinions are opinions
Ozone_77 I thought he’d go there too but it’s arguable because of his throw damage and 1p
@@EmeryReigns even i main him and still thinks hes B tier because of my honesty lol but in the long run ill probably see how and why
I take pride in my B tier Hitomi. Osu!
I want to play Dead or Alive 6 but I don't have any PlayStation😢
Mila is great but goddamn some characters are just BETTER
Kororo and Helena are sisters and Helena move is a little hard and is kororo move is hard I am going to say that kororo is better than Helena
Any chance we can get time stamps added to this?
I think Tina is better than christie but worse than a good phase. And I'd put kula above mai and kasumi. Kula is insane.
Elliot should of been at top A due to his mids
Marie in Cute tier 🥰 but Ayane not in S 😭
DoA x KoF 🧡 Kula and Mai .
Lol actually it Brad might of got nerfed cause of me don't get me wrong I'm garbage but I would abuse that close hit plus it was zero on block I just
Played kinda trashy I even beat Mrs zakurye with little knowledge of the character but then she caught on and and wrecked me by the way I hate fighting Lisa the most but I like the way she plays her but most others play cheap not that I mind to much considering sometimes I play the same
How is Tamaki better than Leifang 😭
You didnt say anything about Tina :/
But bass 1p is also a 50 50, and arguably better than diago . i cant see diago that high and his strings are not that respectable .im so sad . but i guess cuz he on the simple side don't requires as much thanking but
Are they looking for any designs for these characters.Bro I got some ideas
So Honoka is C because low range
Don't agree with those Kasumi claims, sh e can def open people up
You don’t follow the Soulcalibur community do you? It wasn’t Soulcalibur III that one was beloved and AE was beast. The worst was SCIV and to some SCV. SonicFox sucks too.
y'all koeitecmo can't do games with the number 6 in them- have you seen dw6