American Couple/Sports Fans Reacts: How England's Premier Football League Is Breaking The Sport! WOW

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  • @TheNatashaDebbieShow
    @TheNatashaDebbieShow  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

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    • @jessgunn6639
      @jessgunn6639 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      guys you need to check out the FA's ban on womens soccer and how much more popular the womens games were! theres actually a record of a womens match going all the way back to the 1690's!, not happy about the money is might scenario, i prefer the Irish GAA amateur set up where its just club v club and county v county all for the honour of the game football, hurling or camogie. it gives a more genuine investment in your team and profits go right back into the game with free training and access to equipment for little kids all the way up to the age you decide you can't run anymore lol

    • @gmdhargreaves
      @gmdhargreaves 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      VAR has destroyed football for me

    • @WasiuAlatise
      @WasiuAlatise 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NO ENGLISH IN THE TEAMS LMFAO THEY ARE VANISHINGH FROM FOOTBALL TV STREETS & POLITICS

    • @janolaful
      @janolaful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@gmdhargreavesvar is not a thing in football its rugby

    • @janolaful
      @janolaful 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Natasha and Debbie this is a whole can of worms you have opend best put a lid on it lol ❤

  • @happilyeggs4627
    @happilyeggs4627 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    Nothing against foreign owners. But my objection is that football, from its conception, has belonged to the ordinary working man. Nowadays it’s a game for the better off. Most working people can no longer afford season tickets. The loss of football to the working classes directly coincides to the timescale of this video.

    • @Brookspirit
      @Brookspirit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Support your local non-league club, they will appreciate you far more and their prices are very reasonable.

    • @RushfanUK
      @RushfanUK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The Ordinary Working man never owned clubs, clubs were always owned by people with deep pockets, the great and the good of local business originally and has morphed into what we have now, many owners of the clubs in the 50's actually despised fans and players seeing them as the little people in life.

    • @TheCornishCockney
      @TheCornishCockney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Brookspirit It’s not United/City/Liverpool/Arsenal et al though is it.
      You can go and see a local performance of a well known play,but it ain’t the west end is it.
      As with everything,you have to pay for the best.

    • @TheCornishCockney
      @TheCornishCockney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Brookspirit
      It’s not United/City/Liverpool/Arsenal et al though is it.
      You can go and see a local performance of a well known play,but it ain’t the west end is it.
      As with everything,you have to pay for the best.

    • @happilyeggs4627
      @happilyeggs4627 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@RushfanUK No. The game came about in mining areas as a way for the men to exercise and get fresh air. It was only as the game became more popular that businessmen saw an opportunity to make money. Most early clubs were cooperatives. The leagues were all amateur for many years.
      Regardless. I am talking about the heavy commercialisation of the game during the 30 years between 1975 and 2005. The working man was forced off the terraces by price increases. Football may still be worshipped by millions of working people but no longer on season tickets. It's a middle class audience that holds the season tickets.

  • @Rogue66669
    @Rogue66669 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    Football used to be the working man's sport, money has ruined the game with fans constantly being priced out of the game.

    • @WasiuAlatise
      @WasiuAlatise 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NO ENGLISH I THE TEAMS LMFAO THEY ARE VANISHINGH FROM FOOTBALL TV STREETS & POLITICS

    • @paulgeorge6353
      @paulgeorge6353 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And in the upcoming election a football fans vote will count the same as an intelligent persons.

    • @gruunt4064
      @gruunt4064 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      fans who complain about the price of tickets but they are also the same fans who will be complaining when their team doesn't perform and then push the board to buy ever more expensive players to keep up with their rivals

    • @Delboy0
      @Delboy0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not true. When British players were exploited and unpaid in 1850s to 1990s. Football is the most popular form of entertainment in the world and is a trillion dollar interest, players deserve the money they get when it is the hardest sport to be an elite players. It is just there are lot fans who preferred when players were poor so they could feel better about their lives.

    • @koishikomeiji5046
      @koishikomeiji5046 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Delboy0 I wouldn't even put it like that when talking about money in football. The transfer fees are the real issue when I hear people talking about money in football. I doubt anybody wants the players to be poor by the way, the only people saying that are not football fans, but those who have no concept of the sport and how important it really is.

  • @DaveBartlett
    @DaveBartlett 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Don't be misled! While all this initial massive spending and investment was going on in the English leagues, the same was happening in many of the other top leagues in Europe. It might have given SOME clubs in England an advantage over poorer English clubs, but it certainly didn't give an overall advantage for English clubs over ALL the other European clubs.

  • @stephentaylor9900
    @stephentaylor9900 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    One of the worst examples of foreign owners taking over a club and then ignoring the fans was at Cardiff city, who whilst Welsh play in the English football league. Like Wrexham. Cardiff city were bought by Vincent Tan. The club play in blue and are nicknamed the bluejays. Tan did some researched and discovered that clubs that play in red get a higher amount of support, so he changed their strip from blue to red. Fans were outraged, and eventually he agreed to change it back, but it’s the pursuit of money at the expense of the hearts of fans that this shows. Yes fans like success, but not at the expense of the heart and soul of the clubs they love.

    • @jonallen-dt2ui
      @jonallen-dt2ui 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Bluejays? Don't you mean Bluebirds?

    • @Isleofskye
      @Isleofskye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So sad you lost the fabulously atmospheric Ninian Park.
      The Far Eastern joker who owned Hull ,until recently,wanted them called Hull City Tigers instead of Hull City:)

    • @stephentaylor9900
      @stephentaylor9900 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jonallen-dt2ui that too 😁

    • @rjb29uk
      @rjb29uk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jonallen-dt2ui Was going to say the same, would be a bit odd for a team in South Wales to be named after a bird only found in North America. But then again, England's national animal is the lion, and I'm not sure there was ever a time where there were prides of wild lions roaming the grasslands of Wiltshire and Somerset.

    • @catbevis1644
      @catbevis1644 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Similar with Portsmouth FC. Their football club crest is the city's coat of arms. The new club owners tried to COPYRIGHT IT. Literally tried to take away the city's identity and make people pay the club for the privilege of using it. It was as if they didn't realise that the fans mostly LIVED IN THE CITY.
      Also story with blue and red. The Spinnaker Tower (local landmark) is mostly white with a blue base, in line with Portsmouth FC's blue strip. The tower nearly got painted red due to sponsorship by Emirates Airlines, even though red is the team colour of our "old enemy" Southampton. Sure you can guess how quickly that idea was dropped when the locals found out about the planned change lol.

  • @Tommy-he7dx
    @Tommy-he7dx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Football to us Brits is tribalism, We don't care about profits or money, we care about what happens on the field.
    Sadly the money has attracted those that wish to take it for themselves where that money should be reinvested into the fan experience.
    If memory serves me, there was one year the TV rights deal went up so much all the clubs could have had free seats for the whole season and they would still have made more money than they did the previous year......what happened, ticket prices went up also.
    There are very few fans that want more money in the game, quite the opposite, but the solutions are no longer easy to implement as the mega wealth use their money to influence outcomes.

  • @willmathieson9583
    @willmathieson9583 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    I remember a time when you could only have 3 non british national players, how money talks.

    • @ythomitnellum
      @ythomitnellum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think that was a European rule, applying to all European clubs, but was ruled illegal under the freedom of movement laws of the European Union.

    • @CatsAreRubbish
      @CatsAreRubbish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was due to the "Bosman Ruling" made by the European Court of Justice.

    • @ythomitnellum
      @ythomitnellum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CatsAreRubbish Yeah, I was trying to
      keep it understandable given the American audience, and of course the ECJ ruling was only interpreting the Treaty of Maastricht (I think) which was the legal foundation of freedom of movement.

    • @SimBir08
      @SimBir08 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chelsea were the first English team to field a full 11 and subs bench of foreign players including the manager. Not an English player is sight.

    • @joelthorpe4170
      @joelthorpe4170 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arsenal ​@@SimBir08

  • @davehogg63
    @davehogg63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This is why some years ago I began to watch my local semi-pro team, they played with more passion, rather than just for the money. Morpeth Town went on to win the FA Vase against Hereford, a higher-league team, and my trip to Wembley was fantastic!

  • @peterward1698
    @peterward1698 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm a lifetime football fan. Originally from the UK but been in Canada for the last 43 years. I am 70 now so grew up watching footy in the 70s. When I first moved to Canada in 1981 it was practically impossible to watch a European sport. Soccer as it's known here was just not a thing. When the premier league came along all that changed. The game became massive around the world. Even the US was not immune. At first sports writers tried to make fun of "soccer" but they couldn't sustain that rhetoric in the face of the global obsession. I used to hear from US friends about the super bowl maybe getting a billion viewers. Well that was for 1 game once per year. Premier League was getting over 3 billion views every week. I would hear about NFL super bowl winners being "world" champions" I guess so if your world only consists of 1 country. Same with MLB "world series" 1 Canadian team and the rest American for a total of 2. The world has almost 200 countries all of which play soccer. People outside the US are not surprised by the statistics from the European football leagues .

  • @ayeready6050
    @ayeready6050 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The transfer fees are different from salaries. It's the amount of money club A spends to negotiate a contract with a player from club B. The money goes to the club, not the player. The salary of the player is then negotiated separately.
    The world transfer fee record is about $240m which Paris Saint Germain paid Barcelona for Neymar in 2017. That's the amount PSG paid just so he would play for their club. They would also have to pay him a salary of roughly $500-700k a week. That amounts to $26-36m a year from his wage alone. He would've also earned extra for goal bonuses etc.
    PSG were willing to pay this much money for Neymar as he was the 3rd best player in the world at the time, behind Messi and Ronaldo respectively. PSG also paid $180m for Kylian Mbappe in the SAME transfer window as he was the best young player at the time too. He is arguably the best player in the world now, 7 years later.

    • @WIDGI
      @WIDGI 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed. Chelsea might have paid £300 million + in transfers but they would also be paying those players tens of millions every year!

  • @chrismajor69
    @chrismajor69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    As a Liverpool fan for 50 years the worst thing is that fact that TV dictates when games are to be played. Traditionally every team played at 3pm Saturday afternoon , now teams play on all different days and times. Ultimately every club in the premier league will be a franchise like in the US , completely changing football and its traditions

    • @mattsmith5421
      @mattsmith5421 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No they won't

    • @nmp147
      @nmp147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn't be so sure, nine premier league clubs are american owned plus others that are foreign owned, not a problem as such, but with 14 votes required for rule changes, it only takes a few more to start pushing through things like super league and franchising.

    • @mattsmith5421
      @mattsmith5421 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nmp147 doesn't matter who owns what when it's government legislation to protect the football clubs heritage and fans. Do you not know about the fan led review the government did, they're on the verge of making it law that football clubs can't do stuff like that.

    • @nmp147
      @nmp147 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattsmith5421 yeah fully aware of the fan led review, but that's gotta be pushed through first, soon as the election was announced that was paused, no garrantee yet that it will be picked up again, I hope your right because as uncomfortable as I am with politics getting involved in sports something needs to be done to protect the fans and the game.

  • @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765
    @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    For me the golden era for football in the Premier league was from the mid 90s to the mid to late 00s....

    • @LoCoAde87
      @LoCoAde87 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Are you an Arsenal or Man U fan?

    • @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765
      @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LoCoAde87 I'm a Red....arsenal had a great squad....petit, overmars and of course Henry... we had rude hahahha and giggs FA cup.

    • @benhicks9481
      @benhicks9481 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LoCoAde87 tbf Newcastle were great during that era, Leeds peaked. WHU had some decent teams. Yes Arsenal/Utd dominated that time, but just in general the football back then was more entertaining.

  • @TheCornishCockney
    @TheCornishCockney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Football in England is now firmly for the middle classes with the price of tickets going through the roof and ordinary,loyal fans resorting to watching the games on tv in a pub.
    As an Englishman and a Manchester United fanatic,it would be hypocritical of me to say it’s unfair when my club is the biggest,in terms of worldwide support (roughly 800million United fans around the world) and therefore one of the richest,but something HAS to be done as the Premier League is now just a cabal.

    • @fayesouthall6604
      @fayesouthall6604 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s out of my league unfortunately.

    • @terrymason8628
      @terrymason8628 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Cornish Cockney, what a suitable name for a United fan, so which part of Salford are you from?

    • @TheCornishCockney
      @TheCornishCockney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@terrymason8628 I was born in Salford actually,at the old infirmary,but we moved to London when I was a baby.
      All my family are reds from wythenshawe and I’ve been going since 1966.
      Sometimes fly up from Newquay airport,but mostly the coach with the Cornwall supporters club.
      So,up yours.

    • @TheCornishCockney
      @TheCornishCockney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Willster389 that’s a separate issue.

    • @davidpeters3857
      @davidpeters3857 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely not middle class 👀

  • @katemarriner1172
    @katemarriner1172 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Awesome video,always interesting to see it laid out and recapped like that. Thoroughly enjoyed. Loved the amount of shocks you saw,love ur reactions. Thanks for what felt like 3 minutes,just enjoyed it so much it flew xx

  • @Brookspirit
    @Brookspirit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Welcome to the UK where everything is for sale to anybody. 🙄

    • @justinchetham-strode5234
      @justinchetham-strode5234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unfortunately the same sort of attitude prevails in any number of countries, it's not a British disease. But that's no consolation when it's happening in your own country.

    • @edmann1820
      @edmann1820 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's called capitalism and free trade.

    • @justinchetham-strode5234
      @justinchetham-strode5234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edmann1820 Neither capitalism nor fair trade require that absolutely everything is for sale to everybody.

    • @edmann1820
      @edmann1820 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@justinchetham-strode5234 I said free trade not fair trade. Very different things there.

    • @SimBir08
      @SimBir08 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even the county itself is up for sale. Still waiting for the Tories to sell Dover to the French.

  • @revbomb9523
    @revbomb9523 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly you 2 are refreshing on TH-cam. Just sincere wholesome interesting views and reactions when learning about new things. Keep it going big love from Liverpool UK

  • @GaryHead-ye6rn
    @GaryHead-ye6rn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hi from Suffolk and my team not surprisingly is Ipswich Town who were taken over by American owners 3 years ago as we were languishing in the third tier of the English league. After back to back promotion in 2 years they were promoted to the Premier League last season which excited Ed Sherran who is a fan and sponsor.

    • @jameson5735
      @jameson5735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm upset with Ed since he's a Yorkshireman.

    • @jameson5735
      @jameson5735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Take him down to the gibbet.

    • @YorkshiremanReacts26
      @YorkshiremanReacts26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jameson5735me too. He should be a Bradford fan like me!

  • @rachelpenny5165
    @rachelpenny5165 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Morning ladies. My sister's favourite football team is Southampton (been in championship for the last couple of years). They have recently moved back up to the Premier league but they will end up near the bottom of the league as they don't have as much money as the big teams.
    My football team (Plymouth Argyle) is in the Championship (league below Premier) but they are one of the lowest funded in that league. They are the highest they have ever been.
    My sister actually said that the football is best in the championship as it is more about football than money.
    I remember the Hillsborough incident. I have even spoken to someone who was there when it happened. I met her when I was at university.
    Argyle's owner lives in the US, but is from England originally.
    My team has made the news recently as they have hired Wayne Rooney as the head coach. I am not sure about this appointment, but will still support my team.
    The Premier league tends to affect the F. A. rules in their favour.
    I don't agree that it is now decided by how much money you have. With the exception of the Premier league there is now a spending cap on the rest of the football league.=

    • @chalky29455
      @chalky29455 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As an ardent Saints fan - I loved the Championship last season winning more than loosing - the fans all coming back and having a ball culminating in that amazing day out at Wembly when we gained promotion - one of the best days of my life x But scared for next season where the success will be eroded by big money clubs we can't keep up with. I'm convinced we'll stay up but then I'm always convinced we'll do well cos Southampton are my life - Football is much more than a game - Come on you Saints

    • @Jo.Math.Richar
      @Jo.Math.Richar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As a wolves fan i feel we were at our best in the championship. We now float mid to bottom table, my season ticket cost for next season is nearly £1000 with our good players get snapped up by Liverpool etc. the fans are unhappier and we’re poorer!

    • @chalky29455
      @chalky29455 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jo.Math.Richar You are in for Che Adams - as my sister supports Wolves if he has to go I hope you get him. My fav player very underated by Saints fans generally - he will do a job for you, for sure

  • @simonmeadows7961
    @simonmeadows7961 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Here's a little insight into what it takes to buy a ticket to a game. I'm a Spurs (Tottenham Hotspur) fan. The tickets for their games do not go on general sale. They are sold to club members, where membership has several tiers to it. Advancement through the tiers costs money and takes time. You can't just buy your way straight in. I totted up the total for the lowest tier once and worked out that to get a ticket for a fairly low stakes game (e.g. playing Bournemouth rather than Arse&All) would take 3 years of continued membership at a cost of around £800. That's before the cost of the ticket itself.
    Needless to say, I have never been to a Premiership game.

    • @hamtaro0810
      @hamtaro0810 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is inhumane. I am glad that things are different in Germany, even if our clubs suffer financial disadvantages as a result.

  • @brooklynwiegerink5581
    @brooklynwiegerink5581 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m from Burnley in England which was a small mill town, the football club was in the premier league for many years but has now lost its place. It’s shocking cause if you see the town you would never imagine that it would be able to hold such a club. It’s a small northern town with like hardly any money so even though I’m not a football fan I’ve got to say I’m pretty proud of that.

  • @robh_uk
    @robh_uk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just a quick clarification for you - the numbers talked about in this video aren't salaries, they're transfer fees, paid from one club to another to buy a player. The player salaries weren't even mentioned in the video but obviously they're a significant outlay as well.
    Incidentally, check out Everton's soon to be opened new stadium. FC Cincinnati's stadium is basically its little brother. Same architect, very similar design.

  • @DavidSmith-cx8dg
    @DavidSmith-cx8dg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My club Portsmouth was briefly mentioned , ridiculously we were at one time bought by an owner no-one is sure even existed . We were eventually only saved by fans stumping up enough money to buy the club . After ending up in the lowest tier of the football league we have just been promoted to the second tier ( Championship ) which is now inflated by ' parachute ' payments to relegated P/ L clubs so it's harder to compete . The traditional game has suffered with clubs unable to compete . The lower leagues have been more competitive and enjoyable in many respects with real fans who support their clubs . My season ticket in 2010 cost £ 600 +( for 20 games) now it's £ 400 for 23 ( there are more clubs in each lower league ) . The only good thing I can say about the Premier league is the quality of the football .

    • @Lemmi99
      @Lemmi99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The story of our collapse could be made into a film since it involves so many dodgy deals, including alleged gun running, and people going after Arkadi Gaydamak. It was great to be fan owned but I think the Eisners are doing it right by not just pumping money in. Looking forward to the Championship which, in my opinion, is a better league than the Premier League as it's more competitive. PUP PPU!

    • @fayesouthall6604
      @fayesouthall6604 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree 100%

    • @UKJesterVids
      @UKJesterVids 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and the quality of the diving

    • @hydroanky
      @hydroanky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a Pompey fan. My personal opinion was Gaydamak is responsible for trying to bankrupt the club. He owned land around the club and obviously had other intentions. The transfer fees and wages he was paying for players were ridiculous for a stadium that held only 21,000 people. I’m pretty sure he knew the people that he sold the club onto had no additional revenue hence his holding stake and we were relying on to television revenue. Personally I thought the Premier League failed in their duty to observe club business dealings as well. Personally I now prefer where we are and looking forward to next season. I just hope we don’t push for promotion. The Premier League is joke financially and not an advert for the true football fan.

    • @Lemmi99
      @Lemmi99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hydroanky Indeed he did. He claimed he owned the club but when his dad's assets were frozen the money ran out. He was fronting for his dad's money laundering. Milan should never have sold it to him.
      As far as the Prem is concerned, couldn't agree more, I'd rather stay in the Championship.

  • @karensides8074
    @karensides8074 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I lived in Wrexham for a long time. I think what has happened there in the last few years is amazing.

    • @debbie8674
      @debbie8674 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agreed❤

    • @karensides8074
      @karensides8074 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      When they won the league last year, I decided the night before to make my way to wrexham to watch the players go through the city on the bus. I knew there would be a bit of a crowd, but i wasn't expecting the crowd to be as big as it was. Here's hoping 24/25 season will be as successful as the last 2 have been.

    • @redscouse7056
      @redscouse7056 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nobody lives in Wrexham, you survive there. I know I lived and have family there!

  • @debbie8674
    @debbie8674 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This was really interesting and certainly a topic that has loads of debate, depending on who you speak to.

  • @RobertLloyd-f3p
    @RobertLloyd-f3p 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am a West Bromwich Albion fan, West Brom were one of the original 12 professional clubs that formed the Football League, we have been in and out of the Premier League for some years our longest stay was for 8 seasons but the fost was enormous, when you get relegated from the Premier league you get a parachute payment for three years to help with the monetary value difference between Premiership and Championship teams.
    So many fans now feel that the massive money pits of the Premiership have taken the teams away from the normal fans.
    West Brom just failwdvto get promotion this season through the playoffs, but you know what, season ticket sales for next season are high because the fans enjoyed yhe competitive Championship games far better than those in the 'Greed League' Premiership.
    P.S. West Brom have just been bought by Shileen Patel from Texas after 8 years of pain with a Chinese owner.
    Great post ladies, keep up the good work.

    • @MarkRaybould-mo2tl
      @MarkRaybould-mo2tl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i hope we can do well under the new oner

  • @rklrkl64
    @rklrkl64 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The video you featured is now slightly out of date - Premier League clubs Everton (twice!) and Nottingham Forest were both deducted points in the 2023-24 season that finished last month due to breaking Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations, but both managed to escape relegation despite that.
    Meanwhile, Manchester City won their 4th consecutive Premier League title (never been done before) while being charged for 115 violations of the FFP rules. Somehow, their case still remains pending while Everton/Forest's cases were dealt with during the season - money does talk...

  • @charlesward4314
    @charlesward4314 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What I worry about is the very slow but inexorable Americanisation of our beloved sport with the new owners coming in. The factors that make football so interesting are jeopardy (promotion/relagation) and equity (fair distributiuon of income). There was a period in the 2nd half of last season where 18 of the 22 clubs in the English Championship (2nd tier) has something the play for, either promotion or survival. This means the majority of matches are truly competitive. Equity means that smaller clubs have enough resources to assemble a decent squad which is why any team can beat any other team on their day. This happens in the English Premiership; it's reasonably competitive. If the US franchise model creeps in then we'll lose jeopardy though equity may improve. In any event sport transitions into showbiz and I don't think that's what the fans really want.

  • @malcolmbrown7683
    @malcolmbrown7683 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Applies not only to football but to 'British' companies as well. Most are now foreign owned from Rolls-Royce cars to Cadbury.

    • @WIDGI
      @WIDGI 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, whoever allowed us to be bought up by the (mostly American) overseas corporations should be put on a plane to Rwanda! With Russians and Chinese buying up properties in London (and leaving them empty) 🙄keeping those house prices high.

    • @YorkshiremanReacts26
      @YorkshiremanReacts26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@WIDGIactually Saudi and Indians own more property in London than the British do. In fact indians own more real estate in the uk than us real brits do! And considering everything else going on in the country, it’s them who are the problem. It was the Russians or the Chinese who were behind Telford or Rotherham and countless other issues that wouldn’t have happened if we were a strong country.

  • @mik99D
    @mik99D 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My nephew worked for Everton. In Dalas Texas USA, for around 5 years. Both Liverpool and Manchester United have training clubs in the USAto promote football/soccer.

  • @paulhmann
    @paulhmann 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Whilst the 49ers now own Leeds United. Worrying is the recent investment from Red Bull. Supporters are worried about this impact. Like red bull kits and renaming the club.

    • @YorkshiremanReacts26
      @YorkshiremanReacts26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Red bull have only really succeeded with one club they took over, RB Leipzeig in the Bundesliga. The rest get absolutely nowhere.

  • @torbjornfalk4174
    @torbjornfalk4174 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Sweden 51% of the ownership is the members. A company or person can only buy 49% if the club/members would like to sell a part.

  • @RockinDave1
    @RockinDave1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The transfer fee is not the salary, this is basically the negotiated price to buy out the player's contract. In other words: transfer fees are just the fee agreed with the selling club and sometimes the player's management or agents to be able to negotiate the player's contract (although this fee only changes hands in case of a successful negotiation)

  • @peterjemmett6036
    @peterjemmett6036 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I support my local team Wycombe Wanderers, currently in League 1.
    I started following them back in 1973 when at the time they were amauteur playing in the Isthmain League with school teachers and esteate agents playing in the team. I have seen them rise up to the Championship (division below the premiership) and reach a FA Cup semi-final - it's been a fantastic ride!

  • @F11BAR84
    @F11BAR84 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Personally not a big football fan, but love learning about it and seeing what has been done in Wrexham and all the good things that come from it. Thank you for the video. 😊

  • @VillaFanDan92
    @VillaFanDan92 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The fees that are mentioned are not salaries, they are the transfer fees that paid to the player's club in order to release them from their contract and allow them to join the new team. So it has to be enough so that the selling team can pay another team for a replacement player.

  • @bobclarke1815
    @bobclarke1815 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In Formula 1 they set a spending limit.

  • @dreadmoose76
    @dreadmoose76 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you both....I wouldn't have known how messed up the UK football industry is without following your channel! I am shocked and really a bit horrified. I suspect a lot of that money is from illegal or, at the very least, dubious sources. None of that money is being taxed properly because it is being channeled through offshore banks...gosh! I had no idea!

  • @Alison-du2jf
    @Alison-du2jf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Transfer fees are reaching a ridiculous level. Players wages are also very high and I agree with introducing a system to cap overall spending levels. Ticket prices are higher now too.

  • @barryelvin6600
    @barryelvin6600 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi as a Newcastle fan I think that they are now changing the rules to prevent us from being successful. We have one of the richest owners in the world but they are not allowed to buy top players, like Chelsea and Man City were allowed to do in the past.

    • @KGardner01010
      @KGardner01010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We got caught on the FPP rules, Barry, m8 . . . And we don't have one of the richest owners - it is the richest . . . However, whereas the likes of the top 5-8 clubs had already been having massive investment in them to battle with each other for years . . . Our own time began with the FPP literally preventing us from doing the same thing as they did . . . Due to their earlier successes, they were able to grow their fan base hugely around the world - (i.e. sales of kit, etc) - that created for them the profits to spend a lot more at the time . . . Due to Ashley, our club almost died, as all he was interested in was promoting his companies and making profits through them . . . As of now, the money is now definitely there, but the FPP rules mean that we can only spend as much as the club can generate itself - mainly why we're touring in the summer now to try and raise our fanbase level abroad so as to to gain more followers and income through new sales . . . For us, being owned by an oil rich nation hasn't meant a lot, as we're caught by the FPP, so all they've been able to do with some of their money is to upgrade SJP a bit, and almost renew the training ground that Ashley allowed to fall into almost a pitiful ruin due to no investment in it . . . All we soon heard from other supporters, was that we had all of this oil money now - and yet the 1st season had most of the old team playing in it under Eddy . . . again, transfer-wise up to date, sales of players and bringing in new ones who have not cost the earth is paying us dividends really . . . For us as a team at the moment, all we can do is to rely on management and the players to do their best to keep us high in the PL until our revenues through various sale areas and larger fanbase worldwide allow us to expand higher team wise . . . But honestly, due to how it has been and some very wise buys, I would say we're certainly not doing too bad against the same largest spenders in the PL at the moment, m8 . . .

    • @justinchetham-strode5234
      @justinchetham-strode5234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KGardner01010 Short term, this is an irritating obstacle that Newcastle face, but it could turn out well in the long term. Time will tell, but I think Newcastle have a big future in store.

    • @Stevieb333
      @Stevieb333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KGardner01010well said mate.👏👏🖤🤍🖤🤍🖤🤍

  • @MikeyBrum
    @MikeyBrum 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My club Birmingham City are in the 3rd tier of English football having recently been purchased by wealthy Americans that include the GOAT Tom Brady.
    Even at my club they have plans to build a new stadium complex at £3-5 Billion.
    Player salaries in the top tier are ridiculous, many earning £200,000 + per week!!
    Germany has the best model. Up the Blues.

  • @charliepierre7224
    @charliepierre7224 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love you both great to watch love from here in England

  • @johnwood5414
    @johnwood5414 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    im a leeds fan with the 49 WE ARE STILL LEEDS AND YORKSHIRE AT HEART...

  • @ASUTASTUD
    @ASUTASTUD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Heres an example for you ladies. A world cup winner in the 1966 world cup for England actually works in a fish & chips shop. This player helped bring home the world cup for England yet because wages were different back then and he played football all his younger life had no other work experience or trade had to serve food to people. A England legend. Does that seem fair?...

  • @NOKK72
    @NOKK72 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I'm a Chelsea fan and Todd Boehly has ruined Chelsea. It's an embarrassment. It has really upset me to see Chelsea end up in the mess that they are in after so much success in the last 20 years. Boehly has no idea about English football. American "business men" should stay away from our game unless they are a true fan of the club they are taking over or at least keep the staff that are already at the club and not get rid of staff that have been at the club for decades.

    • @catieburnside3751
      @catieburnside3751 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chelsea (I have been a fan since 1970) were a stable club until the U.K. Government sanctioned our owner forcing the sale of the club. The new owners don’t know anything about English football and are making huge mistakes. The fans are the ones who are suffering.

    • @justinchetham-strode5234
      @justinchetham-strode5234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chelsea since 1966, and I've seen so many ups and downs over the years, but the last 20 years have been crazy ! To be fair, Abramovic was also crazy, look how many coaches he hired and fired, changing direction every couple of seasons - but somehow, amassing an amazing amount of siverware. We now have crazy American owners, who have tried to change too much too quickly, and have spent enormous sums of money haphazardly (how many wide players do Chelsea have on the books?). There is plenty of talent at the club, but even if the coach does galvanise them and forge a successful team, will the owners support or undermine him with their transfer policies? And will Chelsea manage to balance their books in time to avoid serious penalties for breaking the FFP rules?

  • @AndyMarshall-p1s
    @AndyMarshall-p1s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am a Leeds fan and so far the 49rs are doing a good job at my club, they have my support for the job they are doing, we are fortunate to have owners that seem to understand what the club means to the fans and believe as a fan base we have driven bad owners out before because you can't own the fans and the club is the fans

  • @kimbirch1202
    @kimbirch1202 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Before the Premier League, English players would often go abroad to play for wealthy foreign clubs, like Real Madrid, Juventus, Milan etc.
    So, football has been driven by money everywhere for a long time.

  • @Thee_Penguin
    @Thee_Penguin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm an arsenal fan and our owner is Stan kreonke.... owner of the LA Rams
    Manchester City & Chelsea are known as 'oil clubs', Newcastle is now also on that list.

    • @Alexm0321
      @Alexm0321 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah Absolutely no oil money from
      The team that plays in the Emirates stadium

  • @WWitchHazel
    @WWitchHazel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Football was known as "the working mans sport". Everyone could afford to go to weekly matches, the players were ordinary people working normal jobs during the week.
    But as like everything else, money changed it, and not for the better.
    Its now obscene, greedy, and the general working man can barely afford to watch their beloved local team anymore, or watch it on normal TV

    • @russellbradley454
      @russellbradley454 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too many glory hunters following successful teams instead of their local sides

  • @Stand663
    @Stand663 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The British don’t use euros.
    The commentator keeps using the term euros.

    • @AlBarzUK
      @AlBarzUK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They do when they’re buying players. 🤗

    • @silveraudi2
      @silveraudi2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If an English club buys players from one of the other Top 5 leagues (Germany, France, Italy, Spain) they buy in Euros.

    • @lordprefab5534
      @lordprefab5534 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Stand663it is for buying players .

  • @alpey8487
    @alpey8487 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Transfers in football aren’t the same as the US. The clubs own the players so the transfer fees of say 100m are the fee they pay the club to buy that player. Wages are seperate and are typically stated on a weekly basis. Enzo Fernandez who was bought by Chelsea for 120m is probably on a salary of £150k a week and I think he’s on a 7 year contract. Profit and sustianability rules now mean clubs can spend a % of total annualised revenue over a 3 year period on player and staff costs. This doesn’t help lower revenue teams that much as it’s even more difficult to break into the top as they have lower revenue to begin with.

  • @christineharris4146
    @christineharris4146 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was a teenager I went to most Nottingham Forest matches. Had a red and white scarf with the team members names embroidered in it and of course had my wooden rattle. You couldn’t do that now, the players are changing too often and I couldn’t afford the inflated prices to get in anyway. Money has taken over and it’s more a business now than sport . It’s so sad and very unfair to the smaller clubs.

  • @Really-hx7rl
    @Really-hx7rl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well Bournemouth is juat a small seaside town on the South Coast of England and yet we still managed to get into the Premier League Everyone thought we would be a 5 min wonder ....Hpw wrong they were!

  • @86wellacre
    @86wellacre 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Money talks in this world. Definitely within this sport.

  • @Carl-Hancox
    @Carl-Hancox 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im thinking 12 hours of old N & D videos to take me up to match time , aahh the beauty of being single lol 🤣🤣

  • @cfp8872
    @cfp8872 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    On a more positive note Ipswich Town one of the founding clubs of the Premier League have been promoted back after an absence of 22 years. Struggling two leagues below the Premier League they were bought by Americans who were looking for a club with significant history and potential to play in the Premiership. Essentially majority owned by an Arizona Public Service Pension fund they appointed a brilliant new Chief Executive and a young Manager who had been an assistant at Manchester United. The next year (2023) they were promoted to the Championship and this year after only one year in the Championship they have been promoted back to the Premiership. A fairytale thanks to ethical new American ownership. Follow the ‘ Tractor Boys’ when the League kicks off the new season in August albeit with the finances and story outlined in your VLOG they will do well just to avoid relegation. COYB ( come on you blues).

    • @lenwilcock3937
      @lenwilcock3937 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "The Premiership" is a Rugby competition ffs.

  • @dbasher9974
    @dbasher9974 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haven’t seen anyone else explain the transfer fees, so here goes;
    If a players ‘costs £80million’ that is to buy him out of his contract with his original club. The new club then has to agree a contract with him. Between 3-5 years is most common. At that point, they ‘own’ the player. In the future, they can then agree another contract with him or choose to sell him on again. The longer the contract length, the more costly it is usually for a new club to buy them out of the contract.
    So player X is bought for £80m, signs a 5 year contract with his new club for £20m a year (for a more extreme example), bringing the the total spending on that one player to £80m+ 5*£20m=£180m over 5 years

  • @mattbaker3797
    @mattbaker3797 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Premier League is the best league in the world but you’re right. It makes it impossible to compete if you’re one of the small clubs. My team , Derby County, were Division 1 (the old version of the Premier League) champions twice in the 1970s but I’m afraid that now being able to compete in the Premier league is just a pipe dream. I have friends who support smaller clubs who were in line to be promoted last season and they were saying they actually wanted to stay in The Championship which is the second tier of English Football because they didn’t want to go and see their team get beaten every week.

  • @justinchetham-strode5234
    @justinchetham-strode5234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I may make a suggestion for you to watch, try Jeremy Clarkson's VC documentary, on what it takes to win Britain's highest military medal. It is simply staggering, your jaws will drop, and you'll be hitting the pause button constantly, trying to digest what you've just seen and heard. If you haven't already seen it, give it a try, there are some truly astonishing acts of heroism that weren't considered worthy of the highest award. Apart from that, I've watched a number of your shows now, and know you seem to have an interest in military stories and in British culture in general. I'm British, and I enjoy your shows, keep it up !

  • @jasonsmithgooner
    @jasonsmithgooner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    My team Arsenal is owned by Stan kroenke whose family own Walmart, and many sports franchises in the states.

    • @captainadams8565
      @captainadams8565 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Stan Kroenke doesn't like sports, he likes money. He has now given the club over to his son.

  • @simonoakley5102
    @simonoakley5102 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our club owner is American,, he has done a great job ..well his father did great job .. sons just took over because sadly his father passed away .

  • @MrMarkg9
    @MrMarkg9 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watford fan here. The club with the first celebrity owner..Elton John ! He is still an active fan, and lifelong President. Attending games when possible.

  • @iainmelville9411
    @iainmelville9411 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the passion you guys have for European football. Your the best,❤,❤.

  • @woooster17
    @woooster17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a die hard Chelsea fan.. we haven’t always had money, or spent money like that.. Early 2000’s started with the Abramovich era. I’ve been a fan since we were the late 70s..
    The golden era for me was at the start of the Ruud Gullit and Gianluca Vialli.. true glory days 💙
    Football is much better today compared to the dark 70s/80s era.. I’ve taken my kids to Stamford Bridge a few times. They loved it

    • @JungleTunes94
      @JungleTunes94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really liked that late 90s Chelsea team, Zola was of my faves but as a neutral it went too far after 2000. They were playing fantasy football

  • @Codex7777
    @Codex7777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The current transfer record, for a single player is $222 million. Decent players, in the Premier League now cost £50m+ and for top players, transfrer fees now regularly sit close to £100m. With fees in excess of £100m, for a single player, now becoming fairly commonplace

  • @julianhughes6511
    @julianhughes6511 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Shut the front door!" I'd never heard this expression before. Thank you so much. I'm going to try it out here in England and when people ask me what the eff I'm talking about I'm going to tell them to shut the front door....or something similar...

    • @Therelegationzone
      @Therelegationzone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m English and I thought that was a very common saying?

  • @lewyleedsdude
    @lewyleedsdude 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those fees mentioned that Chelsea paid for players are not the players salaries. They are the transfer fees, which is the fee Chelsea pays to the other club to buy the player. The salary is completely separate

  • @LForbes95
    @LForbes95 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I support Huddersfield town and have seen them promoted up into championship then into premier league and then back down to championship and this season back out of championship again. We won Premier league in 1924, 25 and 26 but when we finally managed to be promoted in the 21st century we only managed to stay 2 seasons. It's almost impossible now for smaller clubs to be promoted and stay up in Premier league

  • @craigchadwick839
    @craigchadwick839 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing to add, is that the English 2nd tier (Championship) is the 4th Richest league in Europe generating more money than most other European top leagues.
    As a Leeds United fan I am more than happy with the 49ers "Enterprises" buying the club.
    Individual sports stars & film stars are investing in the club via that route.

  • @nari5025
    @nari5025 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Germany Sports clubs are historically community clubs governed by the community. The law about those is more 'lax' because they are usually not professional 'players'. But when your revenue reaches millions that had to change eventually, so your professional football club is now a business company but has to be majority owned by the original sports club still. Billionaire investors hate this trick. (It's not that they are blocked by law, they just don't get majority rule, which... yeah exactly)
    Other countries, esp. England had patronage owners from the start afaik, so I can understand the different attitude there.
    It also doesn't help to change the European Cup rules every so often (There are 3, not just the Champion's League). Sure, more games generate more revenue, but giving clubs more games will also reduce the nuber of 'upsets' that are bound to happen sometimes in football, and, well... you know who will win again.

  • @DerkHat
    @DerkHat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's not impossible for smaller clubs to compete, but they still need substantial investment.
    Leicester City won the Premier League, and relegated a few seasons after, but even they had a multimillionaire owner (admittedly much much less wealthy than Sheikh Mansour).

    • @carolineskipper6976
      @carolineskipper6976 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And they are back up again after one season.

  • @nikandjb1
    @nikandjb1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoyed watching FC Cincinnati when they were in the USL and I'm happy they're in the MLS now. My own team, Derby County, almost died trying to get into the Premier league, and we're only just back in the championship. There's a lot of 'sports washing' by dubious owners in the premier league and I think that there needs to be a lot more regulation about who can own a football club. I'm enjoying what Rob and Ryan are doing at Wrexham but they will need a lot more money to get into the premier league.

  • @mcmiller555
    @mcmiller555 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your the first Americans I've seen actually call it football ⚽️ subbed just for that lol 😆 😂

  • @joshualiley
    @joshualiley 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reality is it's not fair for local fans either. Money is taking over everything. This year's Champions League final was not available on free to air TV or streaming (legally) for the first time in I don't know how long. Fans are getting priced out of the game. The only saving grace for that is that more and more fans are going to support their local non-league clubs, who are struggling financially themselves especially due to the increasing costs (and especially reduced revenue during covid). Last year, the EFL Championship, England's second tier, was the world's 2nd most attended football league, behind only the English Premier League. The Championship certainly isn't amateur, but if that doesn't tell you the quality and interest in English football, I don't know what will.

  • @jkpole
    @jkpole 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I learned a lot too..... THANK YOU BOTH .... the money needs to be shared out between the lower clubs

  • @Jo.Math.Richar
    @Jo.Math.Richar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The whole system needs revised. As a Wolves supporter I’d love to see money ploughed into the team however this isn’t happening right now and instead ticket and shirt prices are going up and the fans are suffering!

  • @Mlreau
    @Mlreau 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Same thing with the UK film industry - Thatcher removed the restrictions on foreign films. Total deregulation. Around the mid 80s the former UK Hollywood died in terms of original British films production French retain the same restrictions protectionism against foreign cinema they've always had to this day.

  • @Rob_Infinity3
    @Rob_Infinity3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For a long time. My team, Aston Villa had a British owner. They then sold the club to an American businessman who at the time owned MBNA and Cleveland Browns. But it was a bit of a disaster and he seemingly lost interest in owning the team. He then sold Villa to a Chinese businessman who was somehow even worse. He almost ran the club into the ground.
    But then Villa were saved from going under by two more businessmen, who bought the club and resurrected it both on and off the pitch. One of them is an American who is one of the owners of Milwaukee Bucks and the other is sn Egyptian man.
    So there have been bad and good experiences with foreign owners at Aston Villa. But the current owners are doing a great job and the team is on a great but steady trajectory at the moment.
    As long as they are legitimate and truly care. I have nothing against foreign ownership.

  • @MsGilly60
    @MsGilly60 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Ryan Reynolds bought Wrexham FC and it doing very well now

    • @YorkshiremanReacts26
      @YorkshiremanReacts26 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They literally said that during the video….

  • @jonathanvince8173
    @jonathanvince8173 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't forget Spain had at one time the most expensive players in the world including Cristiano Ronaldo who was not a team player as Manchester united found out Twice. Tickets are expensive.

  • @peterjackson4763
    @peterjackson4763 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am an Oldham supporter. When I first watched them they were in the 4th division. They climbed into the third and then second. They spent a long time there, becoming the team that had been in the division the longest. They came close to bankruptcy, but had a miraculous season in 89/90 and the following year got back into the first division (after 68 years). They were the last first division club to agree to join the premier league as they knew it would not be good for them. after a few years they dropped back to the second and them the third division. They were bought by a foreign owner who put his brother-in-law in charge of buying players and oversaw two relegations. They set the record for being the first ex-premier league side to drop out of the top four tiers of English football.
    They met Wrexham in the season the latter were promoted, which was unfortunate as my father was from Oldham and had supported Oldham, but my mother was from near Wrexham and had supported Wrexham, so my siblings and I are split between they two clubs.
    Oldham now have a new owner, but he doesn't have the same level of wealth as Ryan Reynolds.

  • @nicholasperry619
    @nicholasperry619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is not saying how all this started. European clubs mainly Spanish started paying certain stars ( top espanic players) huge weekly wages. The wages race started in Spain.

    • @neilbiggs1353
      @neilbiggs1353 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The two clubs also had a very lopsided domestic TV deal. The ratio from the top club to the bottom in the PL is

  • @markdermody9698
    @markdermody9698 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nottingham Forest are my local Club and despite my Dad supporting Notts County, I decided to support the other local Nottingham Club in Nottingham Forest! However, like many children do, I also followed clubs from many other European Countries too therefore from when I was just 8 years old I have also supported all the following Clubs too; In Scotland I support Celtic, In The Netherlands I support Ajax, in France I support St. Etienne, in Germany I follow Borussia Monchengladbach, in Belgium I follow Anderlecht, in Italy I Support Juventus, in Spain I support Barcelona but also have a soft spot for the small club Girona who are also based just outside the city of Barcelona, in Portugal I support Benfica and in the USA I now Support Inter Miami from the Eastern Conference and LAFC from the Western Conference. Though when I was a young child, I liked Now York Cosmos as they were the only team I had heard of at the time and that was through my Dad having worked over in New York for 6 weeks in the 1970's for the Parent Company for whom he worked here in the UK! Great show as ever Girls, keep up the great show!

  • @charlesfrancis6894
    @charlesfrancis6894 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are both correct when you say that the fans pay more for season tickets and shirts and other sports goods . But being somewhat cynical i would say that the owners know the psychology well in that they know that football is similar to being on drugs and they have not yet reached the point of a crash. The crash may well take the form of protests as when the there was talk of separation from the league and joining a Europe "super league " which was put aside when the fans demonstrated , but the scheme has not been abandoned . Players can now earn £3000,000 PER WEEK more or less.

  • @anotherother
    @anotherother 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Course John Harkes the former Cincin. coach played for Sheffield Wednesday so he just swapped industrial cities on 7 hills.He swapped Eccy Road for Hatch Street

    • @anotherother
      @anotherother 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Had family live up on Hatch St. I used to go a wandering over the Roebling bridge ,Over the Rhine etc.I took my cousins child to.see Wednesday he's a Wisconsin Badgers fan. They moved to St Louis for a few years...not my favourite...no,Graeters ice cream in those days

  • @barbieblacksheep8440
    @barbieblacksheep8440 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    True British Football was always about local lads, playing proudly for their local team... once it became about money and best players from who knows where I lost interest... RIP Football 1992 !!!...

  • @johnellis7445
    @johnellis7445 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hi Natasha & Debbie. British football is the best in the world, watched all the globe.

    • @Yogoniogi
      @Yogoniogi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      watched all the globe

    • @NicholasCorvin
      @NicholasCorvin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *"British football is the best in the world....??" Really ?? Then why no Premier League club has survived and made it in the Champions League Final in 2023/24....?? It's just Arabic money and investors, which pumped up the Premier League.......* 🤔🙄

    • @Yogoniogi
      @Yogoniogi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NicholasCorvin not you taking this personally

    • @NicholasCorvin
      @NicholasCorvin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yogoniogi *The EPL is full of arrogance. The real trick is to not have money from Quatar or elsewhere and still be able to win the UCL .....* 🤔😈

  • @vogonpoet5860
    @vogonpoet5860 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    UK football has been broken for years, its just now its breaking football globally, Go back to 60s, Players were paid a flat rate, every club had an aprenticeship scheme, scouts would travel their regions schools ffinding and bringing on local talent, occasionally trading players with other uk teams and charging ticket fees the working man could afford ( often families would attend (males often)). in the 70s Trevor Francis became the first £1m player sale, this was likely the start of the rot. over the next years clubs raised ticket prices and scrapped their aprenticeships to allow them cash to buy increasingly expensive players. the first shock crashes soon happened when mid 80s a little "nowhere" club suprised all by winning uks top trophy , the FA CUP. within 24 months the team were no more, unable to match the spending power of teams like Man united and liverpool and unable to upgrade their grounds they fell below the minimum capacity of bigger teams and were expelled from the FA and folded, by 90s many teams followed suit. while big clubs now started paying ever more obscene figures for foreign players ( it became usual to watch a match where of 22 players maybe 6 were British), smaller clubs now having no way of bringing on new local talent, began searching for foreign talent, this brought its own problems, by now players were getting weekly pay equal to a working mans monthly income and climbing, plus foreign players got resettlement fees and homes, cue not only the arrival of billionaire owners but higher ticket prices to cover player costs. by 2020s a mid level players pay per week could easily exceed the anual pay of a typical fan, so per match tickets often cost £150 at a time when the average blue collar wage was £3- 400pwk. so gone was local talent, small clubs andmany faher and child attendances. in 2018 a report stated Football was no longer a working mans sport, it also warned that should European countries put bans on player sales due to brexit British football could crash with no local talent to replace eu players and ticket sales plummeting clubs could see assets stripped , grounds and remaining players sold to allow the billionair owners to grab what money they could, in 2020 covid meant no football or limited attendance matches, and some owners did just as warned. it has been reckoned that had covid restrictions lasted to 2023 , 2024 wold have seen an FA of maybe 6 or 7 clubs and mainstream football on a team level back to 1946 levels with teams scouring for local talent or vanishing to ameture status. (not a bad thisng in my opinion) there is a saying " absolute power corrupts absolutely" I add, but not as totally as greed .

  • @robinhooduk8255
    @robinhooduk8255 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that about chelsea being the first owner to inject money and make a club a sucess, that isnt true, you need to watch a documentary about blackburn rovers.

  • @hotmechanic222
    @hotmechanic222 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:43 those figures aren't the salaries of the player but just the transfer fee paid to his old club so they will "transfer" him to their club so he can play for them now, the salaries would be negotiated separately

  • @inaxaaji1935
    @inaxaaji1935 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shut the front door 🚪 😂😂😂

  • @malcolmlarsen4363
    @malcolmlarsen4363 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your work ladies.

  • @karazor-el9596
    @karazor-el9596 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since getting relegated gets you a 100m payout it's more beneficial to try a reach the PL just to get relegated and collect the payout then do the same season after season there's a reason promoted and relegated teams are almost always the same teams

  • @GlennDouglas-kr8lb
    @GlennDouglas-kr8lb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the biggest problems is that only a few clubs can have success and the American / Arab money invested in clubs are all chasing limited opportunities.
    I feel lucky my club Brighton is financially stable and owned by a local man who is a supporter.

  • @michelletrudgill4573
    @michelletrudgill4573 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm not a football fan but this was interesting. It's all about the money these days. Look forward to magic Monday, see you tomorrow ❤❤

  • @manlikemark9641
    @manlikemark9641 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When your outside of the premier league, like my club Charlton are, we see no money. We lose £8 million a season.

  • @skillspronto3401
    @skillspronto3401 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a pompey fan (Portsmouth) the administraton was the worst time of my life not knowing whether or not you had a club the next day, at one point Portsmouth was in such financial distress that it got bought for £1, come 2014 the fans bought the club after years of sanctions and poor owners we became the largest fan-owned club in europe, 2016 we won the 4th tier title and the 16/17 season we got bought out by billionaire ex ceo of disney michael eisner.
    personally this money has damaged the sport but its helped develop youth attention etc.
    only issue is fans are outpriced

  • @ChefKeyBrien
    @ChefKeyBrien 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They aren't salaries.. those are simply transfer fee's the club then also provides the player a weekly wage which can be anywhere from 20-50K up to 200-350K depending on how good the player

  • @josiebridle1947
    @josiebridle1947 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Due to the different FA regulations between league & non-league clubs, some non-league clubs decline to be promoted as they can't afford to upgrade their grounds & facilities.

  • @thejanner
    @thejanner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's ridiculous money I'm an Argyle fan and for 1 adult shirt is £50 premier League shirts are about £85 for a shirt is a family of 4 go to Argyle for kit and tickets and food and drinks for one game can be about £350. Football is all about money not for fans it's spiralling out of control

  • @jameson5735
    @jameson5735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Football in England is run by two businesses. the Football Association (FA) and the Football League (FL). The FL control the Championship, Division One and Division Two. The rest is the FA's. This is the versatility of the English club football. They can be market responsive or go back to community loyalty. It's quite clever.

    • @jameson5735
      @jameson5735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Supporters vote with their feet. Have a look at attendances. Which leagues attract watching? Yes, the English second division as the Championship is big. It outshines many a European league.