"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive. Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house. "Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down. "Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup. If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff. You can use BackBlaze too. I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents. I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage". But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
This is why you use a mix of both if you want to be completely secure. I mostly use cloud storage as backup, but now I'm making a NAS so I can free up some cloud storage and in case the cloud provider goes under, I have my own backup. And even with a NAS I'm going to put my most important files on portable drives which I can store in a drawer.
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly. *As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.
I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of TH-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
I turned TH-cam in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.
TH-cam compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind. Source: I made TH-cam videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.
@@McLovinsFunhouse There is a way to retreve the original files you uploaded to TH-cam, the only downside to that is the only option you get is to download literally everything
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant. I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
People seem to forget one very good reason for NOT using "cloud storage". Your data is on somebody else's computer. Apple devices are always nagging me to set up "cloud storage". No thanks, you already do your best to lock up my data on a device I own (ostensibly), and it seems Microsoft is doing the same by encrypting your data on your hard drive but keeping the decrypt key firmly with them. If I need to store data I do it on at least one external drive and a memory stick just to be sure.
Well, there are advantages in relying on a professional service versus having to keep everything yourself. And you can always encrypt your data yourself, either at rest using something like VeraCrypt or on the fly using rclone, and then use the public cloud just for storage of the encrypted data and nothing else achieving a true zero trust architecture. In this scenario the keys remain with you and you alone.
Yep, people overlook it too easily. They are too quick to trust corporations with their data because they are blinded by the technical prowess. Fact of the matter is: Nobody cares more about your data's security, integrity, and availability than you do. If your lifetime worth of priceless data suddenly goes missing or you lose access to your account and the Cloud provider does nothing to help, you have no form of recourse unless you think you can make a legal case and pay huge fees to take it to court. There's a sea of disgruntled Amazon Prime subscribers out there who have lost access to their droves of personal photos stored in Amazon Photos and Amazon makes no attempt to restore the data. Many reports of empty promises to restore access without any actual results.
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
Flawed advice. Agree with the Synology or similar NAS device like QNAP but 1. You don't need a 4 bay NAS costing a fortune (feel like he was obligated to promote this as video was sponsored by Synology but they have much better priced single bay NAS) 2. You can use OneDrive which is simple to use from mobiles and PCs and then have Synology sync OneDrive or Google drive to NAS. Now you have data in cloud and NAS. A fatal flaw in this suggestion is what if someone breaks in and steals your NAS or you knock it off the table, power surge, or your kid breaks it. It's the same as your portable drive crashing. Rather have data in the cloud and backed up to NAS
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
Just be aware, it is not a backup solution, no matter what RAID / NAS you set up, if you by accident delete files, they are gone.... you have security against harddrive failure, but not delete files.... or malware / ransomeware.... so some would use the NAS for storing everything, and have a cloud backup service as a real backup.
Respectfully that is not correct as you are mixing up a bunch of things: 1. If you delete a file, it is literally saved on the NAS. In fact there are 8 versions of the file so you can go back to an older version. 2. If you set it up to synch BOTH ways, then yes. You are telling the NAS to delete the file when you delete it - but if you set it up as a one way backup, then no. It will not delete it. 3. If you have malware/ ransomware on your computer it will not spread to the NAS if you set it up that way. Malware can only infect what it can see. so basically no.
@@LironSegev Yes you are right, provided you keep your files on you computer / drives etc. and have a backup copy on the nas, I was just referring to situation where you just keep all files on nas only…. and that many people thinks that RAID is guarding files in case of unintended deletion, and RAID does only guard against harddrive malfunction 😀
I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do. Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses. I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device. Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it. There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.
100% should set this up, I've always been the one who says 'it's too expensive' well my drive recently failed and it cost me £600 for a company to retrieve the data (95% success) so in hindsight, it'd have been less expensive to setup a NAS for sure!
After watching this video, I think you're right that most people should have a Synology. So, I jumped out on your links and am looking at how much Synology you said is. Thanks.
No offense, but this is just terrible advice. You are still using one device that is prone to failure, even though you have multiple drives inside. Power surge, fire, theft etc. Not true redundancy, not a way of doing backups professionally. What if you are travelling and your internet connecting is down? and so many more ways for this to go wrong.
1. Synology offers cloud storage, its very affordable, make sure you backup your Synology NAS there as well, alternatively Cloudblaze/Ms Azure BLOB/AWS. 2. learn to use MFA with your NAS if you don't want someone gaining access to your NAS. 3. Learn how to protect your NAS from Ransomware attacks, SMB is very vulnerable to Ransomware attacks.
NAS is great for someone who has the space for it, but it does require maintenance and sometimes they disconnect and/or fail. I personally like using Cloud storage for client files, and external hard drives for client and personal files and put them inside a fireproof safe.
i've spent the past week building a truenas in a tupperware container. this would be wayy easier, but i just love messing with computers and learning things on the way, its like a fun challenge, plus i get to say i store all my stuff remotely in a tupperware container. it's not as simple or user friendly as i have to do everything myself. but if i wasn't a nerd i'd recommend this to anyone who wants to get into NAS storage
Better than having all of your stuff in the cloud with everyone else who was dumb enough to keep it there in the first place. CS is the biggest mass-surveillance program in the internet's history, or at least one of the biggest. Given it's all in one spot. That thing about houses burning down is easily avoidable by having your physical storage in a gym bag or bookbag that you often take with you when you go out. Or have a copy stored somewhere else. Both have risks, but cloud storage is a bigger risk, especially in 2024.
It's tedious, but I have 4 external HDs and my computer is wired. Every time I edit a document, I copy it and just drop it into each HD. I've been doing it so long, it comes natural and only takes about 10 seconds. One of my drives is only for very important documents and the others are for everything. I have subfolders for my most used documents so it's organized You think I'm crazy?? maybe I am, but it's worked for 20 years. I admit - this device he's promoting does look interesting. I may check it out.. . . . I went to the link - looked all over for a price and order form but couldn't find it. If it takes that long to find a price it's not for me. I'll stick to my ancient method
There are two way to do this Automatically. One is FileSync, it has an automation module that will continally sync two drives/folders or you could use Windows File History which not only backs up the files but keeps ALL previous revisions/verions of the files up to a predefined number.
Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir
So just another single point of failure, and it's exposed to the Internet. My most important documents live on Dropbox and are synced to more than one of my systems. They are also backed up to an entirely different online backup service along with the rest of my files. I've spun up a new MacBook entirely from my backups with no need to transfer anything from the old MacBook. (In fact, I wouldn't have it any other way, as it serves as a regular check of the quality of my backup solution.) This Synology thing is the second worst backup solution a person can have. The only thing worse is a single external drive, and that's only because the NAS drive can be configured to be more reliable with RAID. Literally every other backup solution is better than this.
Great video! As someone who loves outdoor camping and values quality family time, having a reliable backup power source is crucial. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option. With its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets, it's perfect for powering all our devices during our outdoor adventures. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the video! I completely agree that having a reliable backup power source is crucial, especially during outdoor adventures. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option with its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets. It's definitely worth considering for powering all our devices while camping or spending quality family time. Thanks for the recommendation!
That’s for people who owns their home and it’s sure there won’t be any natural disasters or breaking stolen device. For anyone else who rents or moves from time to time cloud storage is best, with a physical drive. I’ve lost a few physical drives, or have been left behind somewhere and so on.
Over my life I’ve had several hard drives failed on me. It cost so much money to recover data. Now I’m keeping for each drive at lease two backed up drives 😅
NAS Servers, but too expensive when hardware fails. Happen 3 times for me… and it was Synology. Dropbox works 100% of the time for me and my 10TB Regular Drive, just drag and drop for Dropbox. I have a copy & Dropbox is my failsafe 💞
This is a great video thank you I have two questions. Does this work on Mac? I assume it does the other bigger question is why aren’t they using SSD drives? Or not SSD drives much faster and more efficient?
1. Most Synology NAS models only use SSD for caching purposes; they cannot be used as part of the storage pool. I believe that TerraMaster, a smaller less well known brand that also manufactures decent NAS appliances, allows one to use SSDs in any way he/she sees fit. 2. You probably don't want to use a SSD in these anyway as they typically wear down over time after a certain number of read/write operations which makes them not particularly desirable for long term storage purposes. See SSD Wear Indicator for further info on this. Not that HDDs don't suffer from similar issues; they do - some manufacturers such as Seagate even provide things like health management NAS plug-ins for their IronWolf line of drives to allow you to keep tabs on that - but not to the same extent.
Nice... and if my house burns down, I also loose any backup. So I rather will safe my backups encrypted in the cloud. And NAS and also a safe is not affordable for everyone!
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
Data can be recovered by the forensic tools in kali Linux, its probley the electronics thats given up the disc should be all good as long you wind the reader arm correctly and not scratch the disc. it can then be removed fited to a working drive where you can remove your files
Watch the video again. But this time actually listen as to why you want to have your own vs putting your personal data k someone else's hard drive. Or not. It's up to you.
Most of the negatives you brought up against external hard drives apply to NASs. They are single points of failure if it’s what you rely upon to store all your data. Viruses can spread to them. Especially when you have less security protocols that billion dollar companies employ. NASs are cool, but I think that cloud solutions are actually more practical for most that are not tech savvy.
1 back up your stuff on two seperate company hard drives encript both place ine at parents home one st your home or bank safety box test drives yearly to see if still working. If not, duplicate it from the other hard drive. the more effort and time you put into it, the more you get ahead😊
Having it at home is not safe. House can be on fire, earthquake..etc or burglary. Put only extremely sensitive files or documents in a bank's secured safebox. Most banks offer this box for rent.
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
"A big shout-out to Seagate" for having short lived drives and absolutely terrible customer service. I am STILL battling with them over one of their drives that died on me and flushed over 50 of my TH-cam videos down the tubes. They only JUST arranged to replace the drive, but it took me a month to get that set in motion (even under warranty). Don't SeaWaste your moolah !
So you still need to "trust" Mr. Big Brother middleman and login to your Synology account... this could be a front company for the NSA, you know. Especially when you brush off the portion that says "Terms & Conditions"?
not for me, that box will fall or get kicked in the balls at any time of the day, and send all the data to join the rest I already lost...now only SSD for me...Very high-class videos, content, and presentation...all the work you putting in surely is appreciated by all. ...I needed info on GSM -G4-G5 USB portable Broadband modem to stick the sim card in it for PC...and I got sidetracked in your channel for 2 hours(Sunday today) anyway thankyou.
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
NO. My personal data newer goes thru any internet connection. Only personal hard drive old fashionable way. Just I use 3 copies of it, its mpossible all 3 will fail same time
What happens if you go on holiday and your house is empty? If, like me, you turn everything off to minimise the risk of an electrical device that's plugged into the mains, then your NAS is useless as you won't be able to access it if it's switched off. You've not only got to have the NAS turned on, but your Internet connection too.
why would you turn off everything? Do you not have security cameras? automation like heating/ cooling that you can control? Ring doorbell? How do you monitor your home when you travel if everything is off?
The problem with NAS drives is when the company quits supporting the software it uses to let you access the drive from anywhere. Then you're forced to buy another new expensive system.
My dad has a NAS system and so do I, and we live in different states. I have about 3 Gb of important stuff on his, and it's separated with encryption from his stuff, and he has the same on mine.
My DS220j is connected directly to a decent UPS which also provides protection against spikes in the supply. The internet router is similarly attached.
You still need an offsite back up in an event that your house burns down or the NAS getting stolen etc. You also need the most important files with you on a flash storage and another one that is offsite just in case you are cut off from the internet.
I have both a Synology and a QNAP but still use a cloud storage location for backup. If your NAS is in the same physical location as you main working file location then you have FAILED to properly backup your data. Your NAS vs Cloud is simply wrong. It should be NAS and Cloud. A proper 3-2-1 backup strategy is simply ignored here. One copy of your backup should be off site. What you have in this video is a poorly disguised attempt to monetize commissions from selling Synology NAS's.
This is still a single point of failure. If the synology gets fried due to some electrical surge etc, your data is gone because both the hard drives are connected to & powered by the same device. Just make 2 backups on the separate hard drives. Its not difficult if you setup a schedule & use freeware like syncback SE. And its WAY cheaper. These really are gimmicks, people trying to get you to buy their stuff when its not actually needed, and sometimes not even the best option to accomplish whatever it is you're trying to. Save your hard-earned $$$.
first thing you said was so accurate, i stored lots of important data on hard drive and connected it to TV to watch my kids videos , guess what it was all gone. i still have dead hard drive.
Even a NAS, having two power sources, high level of RAID redundance (RAID10 with hotspare) is a single device. If you want a real protection, it´s simple: two NAS in different physical locations and syncronized. But then you have to worry about keep both devices. I have 2 tiers of data. The most important is not so many GB and I keep it in cloud. But I dont have 4k videos, as an example.
Greetings form South Africa. I always backup my data to 2 external drives. Two copies then exist. One drive is off site at my work and one drive at home.
"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive.
Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house.
"Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down.
"Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup.
If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff.
You can use BackBlaze too.
I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents.
I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage".
But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
EXACTLY
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
I do a combo of Synology Drive and then backup crucial data using AWS Glacier
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
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Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
@@keithsmith3118 It's just too expensive for large amounts of data but for local, critical files, absolutely!
Do you mean houses get burnt every month or is it a rare occurrence ?
For my work I run 3 local machines holding 3 copies with ZFS raidz1 file system.
Fire, flooding, theft….now you have a device that needs protection from all three…….I agree with your strategy and sorry you lost your home in 2021
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
@@TechSway Agreed. And every type of storage media has its weak points, there's no one size that fits all.
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
This is why you use a mix of both if you want to be completely secure. I mostly use cloud storage as backup, but now I'm making a NAS so I can free up some cloud storage and in case the cloud provider goes under, I have my own backup. And even with a NAS I'm going to put my most important files on portable drives which I can store in a drawer.
Exactly. cloud storage is safer.
@@sidbrun_ how much do u pay for cloud storage and how many GB storage do u get
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly.
*As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.
I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
Does the Plex work directly from the NAS? I would love that. I have a small business and a personal use for such a system.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of TH-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
Does it have 256 bit encryption? From debice to storage cloud
It is absolutely incredible how many companies have multiple (different areas of the company) single points of failure and do nothing about them.
I LOVE Liron Segev and his channel. I have learned SO MUCH from him, I would be totally lost otherwise. Thank you very much!!
Great to hear!
I subscribed today, thanks for the confirm.
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
100% there is so much stuff in there!
I turned TH-cam in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.
You're so smart.
TH-cam compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind.
Source: I made TH-cam videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.
Thanks for sharing this great tip!! You're doing the lord's work my dude LOL
I do mine in Facebook messenger
@@McLovinsFunhouse There is a way to retreve the original files you uploaded to TH-cam, the only downside to that is the only option you get is to download literally everything
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant.
I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
I was disappointed to learn how expensive this system is to obtain & put into operation. Well, I figure I will need to continue w/cloud storage.
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
House fires in the UK are common. People use chip pans a lot, knock 'em over and set their kitchen on fire.
@@LironSegev mine did a few years ago. Lost a lot of crucial data.
@@texanfournow Who the heck stores their NAS on the floor?
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
People seem to forget one very good reason for NOT using "cloud storage". Your data is on somebody else's computer. Apple devices are always nagging me to set up "cloud storage". No thanks, you already do your best to lock up my data on a device I own (ostensibly), and it seems Microsoft is doing the same by encrypting your data on your hard drive but keeping the decrypt key firmly with them. If I need to store data I do it on at least one external drive and a memory stick just to be sure.
I don't think people forget that. It's just a matter of feasibility.
Well, there are advantages in relying on a professional service versus having to keep everything yourself. And you can always encrypt your data yourself, either at rest using something like VeraCrypt or on the fly using rclone, and then use the public cloud just for storage of the encrypted data and nothing else achieving a true zero trust architecture. In this scenario the keys remain with you and you alone.
The whole reason I don't use cloud. I prefer old school double backup
Yep, people overlook it too easily. They are too quick to trust corporations with their data because they are blinded by the technical prowess. Fact of the matter is: Nobody cares more about your data's security, integrity, and availability than you do. If your lifetime worth of priceless data suddenly goes missing or you lose access to your account and the Cloud provider does nothing to help, you have no form of recourse unless you think you can make a legal case and pay huge fees to take it to court. There's a sea of disgruntled Amazon Prime subscribers out there who have lost access to their droves of personal photos stored in Amazon Photos and Amazon makes no attempt to restore the data. Many reports of empty promises to restore access without any actual results.
Meanwhile :- thief break in your house and steal this NAS system💀💀💀.
Yeah, you silly ppl in US have so funny glass front doors...
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
See pinned comment
Create your own storage system is still a single point of failure. If stolen you have nothing.
"There are only 10 kinds of people - those that have lost data, and those that will". I've been saying that for the last 11000+ years.
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
This is exactly the system I have. I can be on vacation and my photos get backed up to my RAID half way around the world.
Yeeessss!! This is exactly what I was looking for. I hate being so enmeshed into iCloud and G Drive!! Thanks for the video!!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
awesome
why so secretive...😂😆
@@CosmicCitiZenOfficial He's a secret agent
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
I think you missed the entire point of the video. But ok 🤪
I love mine! I have 4 12TBs. No such thing as "too much space."
Cost is too high, instead of that I will buy 3 wd passport 4 tb each will cost max 342 usd. I can do 3 copy of my same data.
Flawed advice. Agree with the Synology or similar NAS device like QNAP but 1. You don't need a 4 bay NAS costing a fortune (feel like he was obligated to promote this as video was sponsored by Synology but they have much better priced single bay NAS) 2. You can use OneDrive which is simple to use from mobiles and PCs and then have Synology sync OneDrive or Google drive to NAS. Now you have data in cloud and NAS. A fatal flaw in this suggestion is what if someone breaks in and steals your NAS or you knock it off the table, power surge, or your kid breaks it. It's the same as your portable drive crashing. Rather have data in the cloud and backed up to NAS
Not Cloud Storage. It’s in your house, house burns down GOODBYE DATA
Fire proof safe with data port.
I only went 6mins into the vid but that's what's I was thinking. How's this cloud storage when it's stored locally?
@@gwaeron8630 how do have the Nas in a fireproof safe and accessible by your computers
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
bro if ur house burns down everything's loss. You'll prop be least worry about ur data then.😊
A great day along with a great comforting belly! It is the most peaceful and grounding realization on this earth!
Great doctor!
Just be aware, it is not a backup solution, no matter what RAID / NAS you set up, if you by accident delete files, they are gone.... you have security against harddrive failure, but not delete files.... or malware / ransomeware.... so some would use the NAS for storing everything, and have a cloud backup service as a real backup.
Respectfully that is not correct as you are mixing up a bunch of things:
1. If you delete a file, it is literally saved on the NAS. In fact there are 8 versions of the file so you can go back to an older version.
2. If you set it up to synch BOTH ways, then yes. You are telling the NAS to delete the file when you delete it - but if you set it up as a one way backup, then no. It will not delete it.
3. If you have malware/ ransomware on your computer it will not spread to the NAS if you set it up that way. Malware can only infect what it can see.
so basically no.
@@LironSegev Yes you are right, provided you keep your files on you computer / drives etc. and have a backup copy on the nas, I was just referring to situation where you just keep all files on nas only…. and that many people thinks that RAID is guarding files in case of unintended deletion, and RAID does only guard against harddrive malfunction 😀
I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do.
Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses.
I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device.
Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it.
There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.
100% should set this up, I've always been the one who says 'it's too expensive' well my drive recently failed and it cost me £600 for a company to retrieve the data (95% success) so in hindsight, it'd have been less expensive to setup a NAS for sure!
😲😲😲
Great vid mate. For a beginner who wants go backup mainly photos and videos on my phone etc, which of those u linked would u recommend? Thanks!
After watching this video, I think you're right that most people should have a Synology. So, I jumped out on your links and am looking at how much Synology you said is. Thanks.
very solid viedo. good advice AND narration. Thank you Liron!
A Home cloud backup system is the way to go. NAS, HDD or SSD. Who wants their private files on some corporate server that can get hacked.
No offense, but this is just terrible advice. You are still using one device that is prone to failure, even though you have multiple drives inside. Power surge, fire, theft etc. Not true redundancy, not a way of doing backups professionally. What if you are travelling and your internet connecting is down? and so many more ways for this to go wrong.
No offense but read the pinned comment
Hahaha! Your NAS still is a SPoF too! You need an external backup solution.
1. Synology offers cloud storage, its very affordable, make sure you backup your Synology NAS there as well, alternatively Cloudblaze/Ms Azure BLOB/AWS. 2. learn to use MFA with your NAS if you don't want someone gaining access to your NAS. 3. Learn how to protect your NAS from Ransomware attacks, SMB is very vulnerable to Ransomware attacks.
NAS is great for someone who has the space for it, but it does require maintenance and sometimes they disconnect and/or fail. I personally like using Cloud storage for client files, and external hard drives for client and personal files and put them inside a fireproof safe.
Backblaze is $7/mo. Unlimited drive size. Works flawlessly for me with zero fuss.
Someone. Else's. Hard drive.
@@LironSegev yes but what if you are encrypting data before you upload them?
i've spent the past week building a truenas in a tupperware container. this would be wayy easier, but i just love messing with computers and learning things on the way, its like a fun challenge, plus i get to say i store all my stuff remotely in a tupperware container. it's not as simple or user friendly as i have to do everything myself. but if i wasn't a nerd i'd recommend this to anyone who wants to get into NAS storage
I once thought I had the solution - a duplicate PC, but both PCs failed on the same day! Now I have multiple backups.
Better than having all of your stuff in the cloud with everyone else who was dumb enough to keep it there in the first place. CS is the biggest mass-surveillance program in the internet's history, or at least one of the biggest. Given it's all in one spot. That thing about houses burning down is easily avoidable by having your physical storage in a gym bag or bookbag that you often take with you when you go out. Or have a copy stored somewhere else. Both have risks, but cloud storage is a bigger risk, especially in 2024.
Now you only have to worry about burglars, broken water pipes, house fires, lightning strikes, power surges, stray bullets. Did I miss anything?
See pinned comment 🤦
It's tedious, but I have 4 external HDs and my computer is wired. Every time I edit a document, I copy it and just drop it into each HD. I've been doing it so long, it comes natural and only takes about 10 seconds. One of my drives is only for very important documents and the others are for everything. I have subfolders for my most used documents so it's organized You think I'm crazy?? maybe I am, but it's worked for 20 years. I admit - this device he's promoting does look interesting. I may check it out.. . . . I went to the link - looked all over for a price and order form but couldn't find it. If it takes that long to find a price it's not for me. I'll stick to my ancient method
There are two way to do this Automatically. One is FileSync, it has an automation module that will continally sync two drives/folders or you could use Windows File History which not only backs up the files but keeps ALL previous revisions/verions of the files up to a predefined number.
To be more secure get a second NAS and install it in your parents house or some other family member's and have back up the one NAS to the second one.
100% - see pinned comment!
Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir
😄 "the creep" lol!! that was classic 😁
How is this not also a single point of failure also? ⚡️💀
see pinned comment
I have a Synology NAS. Love it. I also back it up to Backblaze every night.
nice!
This is for real handy solution. I am using two memory drives to back up my data.
So you can actually can put hard drive of any memory?
So just another single point of failure, and it's exposed to the Internet. My most important documents live on Dropbox and are synced to more than one of my systems. They are also backed up to an entirely different online backup service along with the rest of my files. I've spun up a new MacBook entirely from my backups with no need to transfer anything from the old MacBook. (In fact, I wouldn't have it any other way, as it serves as a regular check of the quality of my backup solution.) This Synology thing is the second worst backup solution a person can have. The only thing worse is a single external drive, and that's only because the NAS drive can be configured to be more reliable with RAID. Literally every other backup solution is better than this.
Well yeah but that's not what they paid him to say... 🤫
Great video! As someone who loves outdoor camping and values quality family time, having a reliable backup power source is crucial. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option. With its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets, it's perfect for powering all our devices during our outdoor adventures. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the video! I completely agree that having a reliable backup power source is crucial, especially during outdoor adventures. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option with its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets. It's definitely worth considering for powering all our devices while camping or spending quality family time. Thanks for the recommendation!
That’s for people who owns their home and it’s sure there won’t be any natural disasters or breaking stolen device. For anyone else who rents or moves from time to time cloud storage is best, with a physical drive. I’ve lost a few physical drives, or have been left behind somewhere and so on.
What is the subscription cost to use the cloud software?
Over my life I’ve had several hard drives failed on me. It cost so much money to recover data. Now I’m keeping for each drive at lease two backed up drives 😅
''..don't buy Coke, don't be foul, ..buy more Pepsi instead...''' ha ha
Sorry if I missed it, but is there a wifi option? Physically, I wouldn't prefer to keep the NAS next to my router.
NAS Servers, but too expensive when hardware fails. Happen 3 times for me… and it was Synology. Dropbox works 100% of the time for me and my 10TB Regular Drive, just drag and drop for Dropbox. I have a copy & Dropbox is my failsafe 💞
This is a great video thank you I have two questions. Does this work on Mac? I assume it does the other bigger question is why aren’t they using SSD drives? Or not SSD drives much faster and more efficient?
yes it does and you can choose whatever storage option you want. You don't have to use the drives I showed you. This model can also handle NVMe SSD
@@LironSegev thank you that’s great news. I assume it’s got some slots on it where you can insert SSD drives.
Yup. The bays have screws for smaller dives. Just make sure the model you get can support SSD. They have a chart in their website
1. Most Synology NAS models only use SSD for caching purposes; they cannot be used as part of the storage pool. I believe that TerraMaster, a smaller less well known brand that also manufactures decent NAS appliances, allows one to use SSDs in any way he/she sees fit.
2. You probably don't want to use a SSD in these anyway as they typically wear down over time after a certain number of read/write operations which makes them not particularly desirable for long term storage purposes. See SSD Wear Indicator for further info on this. Not that HDDs don't suffer from similar issues; they do - some manufacturers such as Seagate even provide things like health management NAS plug-ins for their IronWolf line of drives to allow you to keep tabs on that - but not to the same extent.
Nice... and if my house burns down, I also loose any backup. So I rather will safe my backups encrypted in the cloud.
And NAS and also a safe is not affordable for everyone!
Thank you so much Liron. You made my decision of creating soon a NAS easier.
Appreciate you being here 🔥
Thank you. Cool.@@LironSegev
What OS is that on the laptop/PC you using in the video?
Also thanks for this Info⚜️
Windows. Just FYI: it works with all OS - both mobile and desktop
Yeah, and if thieves gets into your house or there's a fire in the house say bye bye to your data! I still stand for the cloud backup.
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
you aren't storing your stuff on their system. If you don't want to use their way to connect to your NAS, you don't have to - create your own.
Data can be recovered by the forensic tools in kali Linux, its probley the electronics thats given up the disc should be all good as long you wind the reader arm correctly and not scratch the disc. it can then be removed fited to a working drive where you can remove your files
not really something that just anyone can do 😂 I guess that is why companies charge a fortune to recover data from broken drives....
There's a third kind of person. Somebody who doesn't use "data".
Aka simpletons
for this no need to reinvent cloud storage... big company already made the solution
Watch the video again. But this time actually listen as to why you want to have your own vs putting your personal data k someone else's hard drive. Or not. It's up to you.
Most of the negatives you brought up against external hard drives apply to NASs.
They are single points of failure if it’s what you rely upon to store all your data.
Viruses can spread to them. Especially when you have less security protocols that billion dollar companies employ.
NASs are cool, but I think that cloud solutions are actually more practical for most that are not tech savvy.
Half of video sponsored = I will definitely blacklist this channel to never show in search results ever.
1 back up your stuff on two seperate company hard drives
encript both
place ine at parents home one st your home or bank safety box
test drives yearly to see if still working. If not, duplicate it from the other hard drive. the more effort and time you put into it, the more you get ahead😊
Having it at home is not safe. House can be on fire, earthquake..etc or burglary. Put only extremely sensitive files or documents in a bank's secured safebox. Most banks offer this box for rent.
House fire and your data is lost. Sync it with a Cloud backup is better.
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
"A big shout-out to Seagate" for having short lived drives and absolutely terrible customer service. I am STILL battling with them over one of their drives that died on me and flushed over 50 of my TH-cam videos down the tubes. They only JUST arranged to replace the drive, but it took me a month to get that set in motion (even under warranty). Don't SeaWaste your moolah !
So you still need to "trust" Mr. Big Brother middleman and login to your Synology account... this could be a front company for the NSA, you know. Especially when you brush off the portion that says "Terms & Conditions"?
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@@LironSegev no answer to this concern?
not for me, that box will fall or get kicked in the balls at any time of the day, and send all the data to join the rest I already lost...now only SSD for me...Very high-class videos, content, and presentation...all the work you putting in surely is appreciated by all. ...I needed info on GSM -G4-G5 USB portable Broadband modem to stick the sim card in it for PC...and I got sidetracked in your channel for 2 hours(Sunday today) anyway thankyou.
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
NO. My personal data newer goes thru any internet connection. Only personal hard drive old fashionable way. Just I use 3 copies of it, its mpossible all 3 will fail same time
I use the synology ds220j which offer similar features and love it. Great piece of kit.
synology adds up and is too technical for most home users.
What happens if you go on holiday and your house is empty? If, like me, you turn everything off to minimise the risk of an electrical device that's plugged into the mains, then your NAS is useless as you won't be able to access it if it's switched off. You've not only got to have the NAS turned on, but your Internet connection too.
why would you turn off everything? Do you not have security cameras? automation like heating/ cooling that you can control? Ring doorbell? How do you monitor your home when you travel if everything is off?
Surge protection outlets. fireproof safe.
Why is EVERYONE obsessed with putting everything on a cloud?? Yes, there advantages, but downsides too.
The problem with NAS drives is when the company quits supporting the software it uses to let you access the drive from anywhere. Then you're forced to buy another new expensive system.
You need to back up your NAS to. Synology offers great options for that to.
My dad has a NAS system and so do I, and we live in different states. I have about 3 Gb of important stuff on his, and it's separated with encryption from his stuff, and he has the same on mine.
Perfect
the NAS should still be backed up to something else. if you get a lightning strike or just a failing PSU, it might fry both of the NAS drives.
My DS220j is connected directly to a decent UPS which also provides protection against spikes in the supply. The internet router is similarly attached.
You still need an offsite back up in an event that your house burns down or the NAS getting stolen etc. You also need the most important files with you on a flash storage and another one that is offsite just in case you are cut off from the internet.
Yup. See pinned comment
So with this, should I delete my cloud storage AND stop using Apple's Time Machine?
I have both a Synology and a QNAP but still use a cloud storage location for backup. If your NAS is in the same physical location as you main working file location then you have FAILED to properly backup your data. Your NAS vs Cloud is simply wrong. It should be NAS and Cloud. A proper 3-2-1 backup strategy is simply ignored here. One copy of your backup should be off site. What you have in this video is a poorly disguised attempt to monetize commissions from selling Synology NAS's.
This is still a single point of failure. If the synology gets fried due to some electrical surge etc, your data is gone because both the hard drives are connected to & powered by the same device. Just make 2 backups on the separate hard drives. Its not difficult if you setup a schedule & use freeware like syncback SE. And its WAY cheaper. These really are gimmicks, people trying to get you to buy their stuff when its not actually needed, and sometimes not even the best option to accomplish whatever it is you're trying to. Save your hard-earned $$$.
first thing you said was so accurate, i stored lots of important data on hard drive and connected it to TV to watch my kids videos , guess what it was all gone. i still have dead hard drive.
Even a NAS, having two power sources, high level of RAID redundance (RAID10 with hotspare) is a single device. If you want a real protection, it´s simple: two NAS in different physical locations and syncronized.
But then you have to worry about keep both devices.
I have 2 tiers of data. The most important is not so many GB and I keep it in cloud. But I dont have 4k videos, as an example.
Greetings form South Africa. I always backup my data to 2 external drives. Two copies then exist. One drive is off site at my work and one drive at home.
nice! with Eishkom you need to keep your data backed up so it doesnt become corrupt when you loose power....again and again
I've got 35Tb of data, and cloud storage is just too expensive. It was cheaper to buy a NAS. I love my NAS DS1921+
100%
Thanks Liron 👍
Appreciate you being here 🔥
I love how you make things seem simple. Unfortunately i still got hung up on the raid part. I will read the link you posted