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"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive.
Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house.
"Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down.
"Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup.
If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff.
You can use BackBlaze too.
I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents.
I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage".
But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
EXACTLY
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
I do a combo of Synology Drive and then backup crucial data using AWS Glacier
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
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Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
@@keithsmith3118 It's just too expensive for large amounts of data but for local, critical files, absolutely!
Do you mean houses get burnt every month or is it a rare occurrence ?
For my work I run 3 local machines holding 3 copies with ZFS raidz1 file system.
Fire, flooding, theft….now you have a device that needs protection from all three…….I agree with your strategy and sorry you lost your home in 2021
For anyone at higher risk (of theft or natural disaster, for example), it is sensible to employ both local and cloud backup solutions.
true - that is ideal. But a fireproof safe with a network port takes care of that 👍
@Jason Westaway ja its just beyond ridiculous now
@@LironSegev I can't find one. Suggestions/recommendations?
So true. Cloud usually has file versions so if corrupted or encrypted files (virus related) get synced to local backup you can use the cloud to restore the files.
Exactly! A local NAS provides no local redundancy. So when your house burns down/floods out/is otherwise destroyed, your data is gone with it. That’s the whole reason you have a backup, and a local copy does nothing to protect you. Plus you don’t have to maintain a service. Just pay a bill. Drive failures, data corruption, electricity/cooling/rent/noise all someone else’s problem.
Pick your provider carefully. Ensure you have the level of security and privacy that you desire, and just pay a bill.
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Great to hear!
@@LironSegev At 4:35 I saw "! All your data will be deleted and is irreversible!"
Could please elaborate what this means? It had to do with the start of software install I think but I'm not very familiar with this topic. I do get that this is physical back-up vs cloud tho.
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
@@TechSway Agreed. And every type of storage media has its weak points, there's no one size that fits all.
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
Does the Plex work directly from the NAS? I would love that. I have a small business and a personal use for such a system.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of TH-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
Does it have 256 bit encryption? From debice to storage cloud
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly.
*As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
100% there is so much stuff in there!
Thanks for this video, very interesting and well pesented! I myself use restic in combination with naeon to store my backup (chunks) in untrusted environments like the cloud. That way I avoid having to depend on the cloud hosting provider when it comes to proper encryption key management.
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant.
I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.
Great vid mate. For a beginner who wants go backup mainly photos and videos on my phone etc, which of those u linked would u recommend? Thanks!
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the video! I completely agree that having a reliable backup power source is crucial, especially during outdoor adventures. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option with its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets. It's definitely worth considering for powering all our devices while camping or spending quality family time. Thanks for the recommendation!
Hi Liron Segev,
Great video. I have two questions:
1. How is this product different from WD Cloud products? I had one of those WD cloud products that failed during the pandemic and it costed me an arm and a leg to get my data back.
2. I have some SATA HDD from previous computers, can use those in this device?
Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir
Sorry if I missed it, but is there a wifi option? Physically, I wouldn't prefer to keep the NAS next to my router.
Can an AmberX device be connected to this? It's a cloud device as well that focuses on security as well.
I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do.
Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses.
I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device.
Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
Thanks for all your great videos. Can I put different sizes of hard drives( 12tb and 6tb) into those bays? And what is your advice about ds1823xs+ for the purpose you just mentioned and my movie server? I'm about to purchase it. Thank you
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very solid viedo. good advice AND narration. Thank you Liron!
Hi Liron, great video like always :-) If i want the same NAS with only 2 bays that i can access remotely... do you have a suggestion that is less expensive for me ? Thanks
My first Synology was a 2 bay 218+ amzn.to/41BkPVH and I see there is also this one that is 2 bay but I havent used this one: amzn.to/43CunBz
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
Hey Liron, love your channel. Can you get a NAS that incorporates SSD instead of HDD?
Over my life I’ve had several hard drives failed on me. It cost so much money to recover data. Now I’m keeping for each drive at lease two backed up drives 😅
Yeeessss!! This is exactly what I was looking for. I hate being so enmeshed into iCloud and G Drive!! Thanks for the video!!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
I use the synology ds220j which offer similar features and love it. Great piece of kit.
After watching this video, I think you're right that most people should have a Synology. So, I jumped out on your links and am looking at how much Synology you said is. Thanks.
I have a laptop that is connected 50% of the tike to my asus proart monitor so struggling to cone up woth something that suits me for storage and redundancy. I was thinking of doing a NAS but soon we are glojg travelling in a van and the lack of decent internet at times and lack if space will make that NAS idea not doable. Whatever direction i twke, my personal, non work stuff is backed up on 4 extetnal drives (2x seperate 2 disc raids in mirror) so the chances of both going down at the same time is practically nil. Plus 1x set is in my parents loft, out of the way. Any ideas on a lightweight, slim storage method for either 2 drives i can raid or even better, 4 drives i can raid?
What is tue heighest rate of encryption that you can choose for these devices ? Thabk you 🙏
This is for real handy solution. I am using two memory drives to back up my data.
So you can actually can put hard drive of any memory?
Hi Liron. I note that the offering is with traditional HDD. I have been upgrading systems with SSD implementations, and the results have been spectacular, particularly with older laptops. Wonder if there is a solution for a NAS system that uses SSD technology?
As far as I know, you can use SSD with Synology - but you would have to check the compatibility list on their website. In this particular model you can use 2x M.2 NVMe SSD which is amazing!
But it appears to be just for cache, not storage.
Which improves performance so you don't need the an SSD
What about decentralized storage like "STORJ"? And thanks for the video. I didn't know about NAS.
How about the DiskStation DS223 for a little less money? Or do you suggest the 4 bay is better
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
awesome
why so secretive...😂😆
@@CosmicCitiZenOfficial He's a secret agent
Cost is too high, instead of that I will buy 3 wd passport 4 tb each will cost max 342 usd. I can do 3 copy of my same data.
This is a great video thank you I have two questions. Does this work on Mac? I assume it does the other bigger question is why aren’t they using SSD drives? Or not SSD drives much faster and more efficient?
yes it does and you can choose whatever storage option you want. You don't have to use the drives I showed you. This model can also handle NVMe SSD
@@LironSegev thank you that’s great news. I assume it’s got some slots on it where you can insert SSD drives.
Yup. The bays have screws for smaller dives. Just make sure the model you get can support SSD. They have a chart in their website
1. Most Synology NAS models only use SSD for caching purposes; they cannot be used as part of the storage pool. I believe that TerraMaster, a smaller less well known brand that also manufactures decent NAS appliances, allows one to use SSDs in any way he/she sees fit.
2. You probably don't want to use a SSD in these anyway as they typically wear down over time after a certain number of read/write operations which makes them not particularly desirable for long term storage purposes. See SSD Wear Indicator for further info on this. Not that HDDs don't suffer from similar issues; they do - some manufacturers such as Seagate even provide things like health management NAS plug-ins for their IronWolf line of drives to allow you to keep tabs on that - but not to the same extent.
Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.
am I able to share a link to another when using a NAS, like on dropbox etc etc? Thanks for the video. I have now watched the video and subscribed. You answered my question Thank you again.
Epic! So yes. You can 👍
does the autosave to onedrive feature of ms office work on this? Regarding the cost: I've found older models of synology for around 250$, and two WD 1 tb HDD's cost around 200$ so it is 450$ for that. If you are paying 10$/month for a cloud service you break even in 4 years. It is not that bad. And if you have spare HDD's lying around like I do, you will break even in just 2 years. However if you go for premium models with 5 slots they indeed cost a lot.
Nice video, but what do you install the NAS to ..a network server, your desktop, or your router?
you connect your NAS to the router with the network cable. The NAS is a self contained "computer"
I have an old Iomega drive that's about 20 years old. I stop using it about 10 years ago. Now I cant access anything on it because my computer wont recognize any of the files.
All I get is a bunch of code at best.
There should be a law against storage devices become obsolete, and company's charging you to access files just because they're old.
But Apple iCloud and others use E2EE? Isn't that safe for sensitive documents? Not sure I want another piece of hardware.
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
Thank you so much Liron. You made my decision of creating soon a NAS easier.
Appreciate you being here 🔥
Thank you. Cool.@@LironSegev
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
House fires in the UK are common. People use chip pans a lot, knock 'em over and set their kitchen on fire.
@@LironSegev mine did a few years ago. Lost a lot of crucial data.
@@texanfournow Who the heck stores their NAS on the floor?
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
What OS is that on the laptop/PC you using in the video?
Also thanks for this Info⚜️
Windows. Just FYI: it works with all OS - both mobile and desktop
I usually back things up to more than one backup option.
What size drive(s) can each slot hold and can they be SSD?
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
you aren't storing your stuff on their system. If you don't want to use their way to connect to your NAS, you don't have to - create your own.
any guide how we setup sync locations two locations this to make sure , back are made in difference locations
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
See pinned comment
This is exactly the system I have. I can be on vacation and my photos get backed up to my RAID half way around the world.
Liron can this be hooked up as a DVR for the TV? What's needed besides the NAS and the TV channels lol?
Not sure that a NAS is the best tool for something like this. You would probably be best served by a DVR-like appliance such as HD HomeRun which, I believe - don't quote me on it! - can record live TV on the NAS instead of its built-in storage if you want it to.
Cool but whats the cost.
Amazing video my friend! Thank you for this tutorial. 5/5
Hello I really like your videos, I have a question for you there are like 3 models Synology DS423, vs DS923 and DS920 you recommend and the second question what happens if someone steels le your Device, this means you loose all your data? Thank you very Much.
Appreciate you being here 🔥 to answer your question, see pinned comment.
Thank you.
hi, great video! do you have cool informations for secure ubuntu server or nice software to use ? thanks
I don't
NAS Servers, but too expensive when hardware fails. Happen 3 times for me… and it was Synology. Dropbox works 100% of the time for me and my 10TB Regular Drive, just drag and drop for Dropbox. I have a copy & Dropbox is my failsafe 💞
What if my hard drive in my computer crashes can it put the whole operating system back on a new drive?
Do I update after adding the remaining 2 drives?
Can it be something like 8g 12g and 16 and 16 later?
Would you consider making a video on the harder way i brought myself a r710 and wanting to control my own data.
If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?
Hi, have you had any problem with the mobile app saying “install drive on your Synology storage” when it’s already installed? Also because of that, it doesn’t sync
it's perfect solution but very expensive comparing to external HDD, OR getting new PC equipped with needed HDD to store my data
My question is;
how do i backup the files on each computer (5x) in a small network but make clients have no access or limited access to Synology in order to protect the backup.
You run the backup client software on each device and set permissions on the NAS software
Sorry guys I’m really new to this. Literally started looking into something like this today. I have some questions…..
Do you have to pay for the NAS service to get access to your files from your mobile device?
I guess I’m asking, what’s the start up cost for something like this?
I love how you make things seem simple. Unfortunately i still got hung up on the raid part. I will read the link you posted
Great video. Can a NAS be set up wirelessly? Or does it always have to be plugged into the router via Ethernet?
I believe you can if you add a WIFI dongle to the USB port - kb.synology.com/en-au/DSM/help/DSM/AdminCenter/connection_network_wireless?version=6
@@LironSegevThanks for the quick response. I'm thinking of getting a beginner NAS, single bay backup. The Synology DS120J, single bay enclosure, looks like the right fit. Any thoughts on that model?
Or which version would you recommend for a beginner?
My first one was the DS218+ which I still have running today. I would recommend something with 2 bays so that you can have that hard drive redundancy - just incase one fails you don't lose all your data.
@@LironSegev Thanks again, I'll look into it.
When making your own cloud storage how would one opt for one that isn't non-physical?
So many questions, but first, before I buy, my need is to backup my iphones, photos, and music. I have a P.C. and just purchased my first Mac. I need to backup all the things I mentioned but I want to use it for backing up my Mac and to use as primary storage for any video editing I do on my Mac. Do you know if I can easily swap and store files on the Synology while using Final Cut Pro. I am brand new to this so if you have the answer, talk to me like a I am 10 years old so I can understand you. THanks.
We all have that 10-year old kid in us -- and Liron speaks to the 10-year-old me in each of his videos. I found the Synology website, and it may offer answers to some or all of your questions! Good luck. 😊
the answer is simply yes. I use Premiere Pro and have all my project files on the NAS. I can also give my editor access to the project. As far as other files/ photos/ videos etc. go, once you install the app on your phone/ computer, it will just automatically backup to your NAS without you having to do anything.
@@LironSegev THANK YOU!
One of the others may be if the company goes down of abandoned the product then it may become obsolete
Been using a DS 2disk bay since 2018.
Nice 👍
What sort of budget do you need for this? Say I need 4TB of redundant storage
Aside from the fact that you can archive and put a (strong) password on the data you put on the "cloud", what is the fundamental difference between a NAS and a regular PC that you would keep it on while you are away and use it as a NAS where I would keep a second back-up of those files?
For example a thin client/mini/micro PC that also draws very little power.
Or a router with USB storage. Would that work as type of NAS?
for me, any NAS is a separate computer that runs/stores my library (movies, tv shows, etc) and anything else i want on there while i use my main computer without worrying if what i'm doing will mess up the NAS. the NAS, which is a computer running Windows 10 with 3 high end drives, does just one thing, that's it. It COULD do more but it just houses all my media and allows me to stream it.
@@jasonsnell708 So beyond the names(NAS, destop PC, laptop, mini PC, etc) they are basically both exactly the same thing, and each one can do what the other can, just that the user chose what specific work give to each of them. So any PC can be used as a NAS.
@@ryutenmen Absolutely. Regular Windows 10 can be used as a server if it's major or sole function is to "serve" something. I use my Windows 10 computer (it sits to the far right of my side desk area) to house my library and stream from Emby (just like Plex). A synology box is just like a PC, but it uses different hardware and a different OS. It does the same thing. It's really not complicated :)
What is the subscription cost to use the cloud software?
I was disappointed to learn how expensive this system is to obtain & put into operation. Well, I figure I will need to continue w/cloud storage.
I've been looking for this type of solution. I like it a lot!!!!!
Ah, finally the NAS talk! 👍 👍 I'm rocking a DS918+ and love it.
I have a Synology NAS. Love it. I also back it up to Backblaze every night.
nice!
Here the reason to use cloud storage: your stuff is backed up with minimal effort, for a set fee.
You don’t need to worry about drives failing (or having the skills to rebuild a raid). You also never have to remember to plug anything in. If your house is destroyed, or devices stollen, you still have your data.
I’m not saying that a NAS is a bad idea, but for the average person that struggles to operate an iPhone, paying for cloud storage and loading an app to automatically backup your data every time you turn your devices on, a cloud solution is a much better solution. A local NAS in hour house is great until it’s hit by a tornado, hurricane, fire or flood. Are those odds low? Maybe, but isn’t that the reason why you have a backup anyway?
I’m sure you could probably talk your mom or friend into letting you set up a mirrored site for your data…but now all your data is sitting at someone else’s house…and isn’t that your whole argument against cloud storage to begin with….it’s someone else’s computer???
Thank you! Agree 100%. My house burned down and we lost almost everything in it. Unfortunately, this happens. Also, not everyone can afford a NAS system. The one in this video is on Amazon is $599 - not including the external hard drives to provide the actual storage
Downside of cloud storage - it is someone else's computer, they can have an issue and lose everything, they can delete all your stuff, missing paying your scheduled payment, gone. If you argue with them, they might get give you a month free storage or refund your last month - it has happened multiple times in the past and will happen again in the future. Unfortunately, you need a mix of technologies but this is outside most people who don't work in IT's skillset to implement
@@ancipital it’s pretty much always someone else’s computer if you want geo- redundancy though, unless you are rich enough to own multiple homes.
Agreed. Ppl that burn their house down or struggle with their phones shouldn’t attempt a NAS setup.
Create your own storage system is still a single point of failure. If stolen you have nothing.
"There are only 10 kinds of people - those that have lost data, and those that will". I've been saying that for the last 11000+ years.
I would like to try this at the first opportunity.
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
I think you missed the entire point of the video. But ok 🤪
My cloud Home just GOT RID of their desktop folder randomly WHAT A NIGHTMARE!
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
Can you make a video explaining how having internet access to your nas is secure? Mostly everyone advises against that so i have not opened mine up to that.
Ikr. Just use cloud storage services at that point.
With a usb only interface on the physical hard disk and SMR platter technology usb external hard drives are extremely unreliable nowadays. You can't even keep an eye on them via SMART monitoring because the usb interface prevents talking to the drives firmware directly. No-one should ever do a cut and paste or first and only write to them. They should be used as a 'copy to' device only.
I bought a network storage device (personal cloud) made by a prominent hard drive manufacturer several years ago. It worked similarly, (except no backup of the backup). Last year the company quit supporting it and it only works locally, on Windows 10, our windows 11 computers can’t access it. Will this drive become obsolete in a few years as well?
ouch - that sucks! Synology is the leader in this industry and not only focuses on home devices but also on corporates, so odds of them not being around are slim. I have had mine since 2016 and now upgraded to this model.
Nice... and if my house burns down, I also loose any backup. So I rather will safe my backups encrypted in the cloud.
And NAS and also a safe is not affordable for everyone!
so i have a pc with over 50tb drives in it and i have a nas with 2x16tb how is it gonna save everything? also your house burns down now you lost everything so you need a 2nd external backup for the backup
Ive been running a DS920+ for years and have several other user, 16 to be exact. Most use synology photos to backup their phones. I also have 2 other offsite nas to backup my nas too.
Nice! 🔥 🔥 🔥
@Steven for years? i was interested to setup a 50TB NAS, but i did some research and it seems like i might need to change the HDD's every 5 year or so. it seems very expensive.
Is all the data on the NAS accessible by everyone in the family or can you make it specific to each family member? I'm thinking in cases of confidential files that I may not want others reading backups of or me of theirs. In short, is all the backed up data viewable by everyone?
Yoy can set up users so each person has access to only what you assign!
@@LironSegev Great! Thanks Liron. Great video btw 👍👍
I dont have an ethernet cable, everything is done through wifi does it work?
Great video. However, in order to have "access to the unit anywhere" your PC needs to be on and connected to the internet. Recently a Win 10 update happened and my PC rebooted "in off hours" and remote access wasn't possible. So, how did you address this should you be on an International trip for more than a one week period - as Win updates are coming about weekly? Shut off updates?
the NAS isn't connected to the computer, but connected to your router. So even if your computer is off, it will still be accessible via the internet. When I travel I switch off all my computers but obviously leave the router on so that I can access the NAS and the security cameras and the smart air-conditioning system etc.
@@LironSegev Okay, makes sense. Unfortunately my router is at entire opposite end of the house and my office d3esktop PC is wireless only - only dang room in the house w/o an ethernet connection. May have to consider moving the NAS to the "Gathering Space" for the router connection but don't like having it not thunderbolted to my PC as I do lots of photo work and files are large. In the Marine Corps we would call this a "Personal Problem." Thanks for your video!
Superb!! Thank you 👏👏🥰👍👍
Appreciate you being here
can i use it for my course videos to be streamed and not be downloadable on my website?