"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive. Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house. "Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down. "Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup. If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff. You can use BackBlaze too. I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents. I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage". But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
This is why you use a mix of both if you want to be completely secure. I mostly use cloud storage as backup, but now I'm making a NAS so I can free up some cloud storage and in case the cloud provider goes under, I have my own backup. And even with a NAS I'm going to put my most important files on portable drives which I can store in a drawer.
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly. *As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of TH-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
I turned TH-cam in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.
TH-cam compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind. Source: I made TH-cam videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.
@@McLovinsFunhouse There is a way to retreve the original files you uploaded to TH-cam, the only downside to that is the only option you get is to download literally everything
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
Lost me at Ethernet port. Not having internet access in my apartment, how can I offload my phone’s photos and videos to either the ‘cloud’, an external storage device or both ? It’s an iPhone 10
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
People seem to forget one very good reason for NOT using "cloud storage". Your data is on somebody else's computer. Apple devices are always nagging me to set up "cloud storage". No thanks, you already do your best to lock up my data on a device I own (ostensibly), and it seems Microsoft is doing the same by encrypting your data on your hard drive but keeping the decrypt key firmly with them. If I need to store data I do it on at least one external drive and a memory stick just to be sure.
Well, there are advantages in relying on a professional service versus having to keep everything yourself. And you can always encrypt your data yourself, either at rest using something like VeraCrypt or on the fly using rclone, and then use the public cloud just for storage of the encrypted data and nothing else achieving a true zero trust architecture. In this scenario the keys remain with you and you alone.
Yep, people overlook it too easily. They are too quick to trust corporations with their data because they are blinded by the technical prowess. Fact of the matter is: Nobody cares more about your data's security, integrity, and availability than you do. If your lifetime worth of priceless data suddenly goes missing or you lose access to your account and the Cloud provider does nothing to help, you have no form of recourse unless you think you can make a legal case and pay huge fees to take it to court. There's a sea of disgruntled Amazon Prime subscribers out there who have lost access to their droves of personal photos stored in Amazon Photos and Amazon makes no attempt to restore the data. Many reports of empty promises to restore access without any actual results.
So just another single point of failure, and it's exposed to the Internet. My most important documents live on Dropbox and are synced to more than one of my systems. They are also backed up to an entirely different online backup service along with the rest of my files. I've spun up a new MacBook entirely from my backups with no need to transfer anything from the old MacBook. (In fact, I wouldn't have it any other way, as it serves as a regular check of the quality of my backup solution.) This Synology thing is the second worst backup solution a person can have. The only thing worse is a single external drive, and that's only because the NAS drive can be configured to be more reliable with RAID. Literally every other backup solution is better than this.
Does this backup photos with all the meta data? One of my issues with other back up services is that it never saves the file data, and so the location and date and time is always lost.
wish this video mentioned what happens if my cell phone gets stolen: what happens if I try to access my NAS from a desktop but the 2FA is set up to call my phone? And other similar predicaments. . . .
what you are asking has nothing to do with this a NAS but more with 2FA. In any case, if you have 2FA set up on a phone and it gets stolen, you use the backup code your set up and reset your 2FA.
so this is no different on cloud? since you still giving your data to have an access. And why do you only have 1 external hd? Most people will buy 2-3 external to make sure that their data are safe? $600 for that? You could bought like 20 1tb of external hard disks for that and use it to back up all of your file.
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do. Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses. I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device. Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
I didn't see any detail about what kind of hard drives were unpacked to slot into the device. Does it come with a couple of empty hard drives ready formatted? If not what size do you obtain and have they to be formatted first NTFS ? FAT32? The back up process seems also to need cable connection to router/modem and I wouldn't be happy to do that as my cable router has no spare ethernet ports and I don't like the idea of my stored data connecting to the internet directly. All a bit confusing so I'll stick to my two cloud storage places and two external terrabyte solid state drives. Keeps my album stuff safe
Flawed advice. Agree with the Synology or similar NAS device like QNAP but 1. You don't need a 4 bay NAS costing a fortune (feel like he was obligated to promote this as video was sponsored by Synology but they have much better priced single bay NAS) 2. You can use OneDrive which is simple to use from mobiles and PCs and then have Synology sync OneDrive or Google drive to NAS. Now you have data in cloud and NAS. A fatal flaw in this suggestion is what if someone breaks in and steals your NAS or you knock it off the table, power surge, or your kid breaks it. It's the same as your portable drive crashing. Rather have data in the cloud and backed up to NAS
My question is; how do i backup the files on each computer (5x) in a small network but make clients have no access or limited access to Synology in order to protect the backup.
A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it. There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.
I have an office at two different buildings. My office desktop copies my entire user profile to my other office desktop every time my machines are shut down. Both machines are on the same WAN I created a .bat file that first cleans up all .temp files and caches. Maps to the target folder. Copies all files that have been modified since my last backup, disconnects all mapped drives and forces a shutdown of the desktop.. This happens at 5:00pm every day . Both machines already had 2 /500 gig SSD Drives so all it cost me was 10 minutes to write a .bat script.
No offense, but this is just terrible advice. You are still using one device that is prone to failure, even though you have multiple drives inside. Power surge, fire, theft etc. Not true redundancy, not a way of doing backups professionally. What if you are travelling and your internet connecting is down? and so many more ways for this to go wrong.
Just be aware, it is not a backup solution, no matter what RAID / NAS you set up, if you by accident delete files, they are gone.... you have security against harddrive failure, but not delete files.... or malware / ransomeware.... so some would use the NAS for storing everything, and have a cloud backup service as a real backup.
Respectfully that is not correct as you are mixing up a bunch of things: 1. If you delete a file, it is literally saved on the NAS. In fact there are 8 versions of the file so you can go back to an older version. 2. If you set it up to synch BOTH ways, then yes. You are telling the NAS to delete the file when you delete it - but if you set it up as a one way backup, then no. It will not delete it. 3. If you have malware/ ransomware on your computer it will not spread to the NAS if you set it up that way. Malware can only infect what it can see. so basically no.
@@LironSegev Yes you are right, provided you keep your files on you computer / drives etc. and have a backup copy on the nas, I was just referring to situation where you just keep all files on nas only…. and that many people thinks that RAID is guarding files in case of unintended deletion, and RAID does only guard against harddrive malfunction 😀
Not sure that a NAS is the best tool for something like this. You would probably be best served by a DVR-like appliance such as HD HomeRun which, I believe - don't quote me on it! - can record live TV on the NAS instead of its built-in storage if you want it to.
My dad has a NAS system and so do I, and we live in different states. I have about 3 Gb of important stuff on his, and it's separated with encryption from his stuff, and he has the same on mine.
What happens if you go on holiday and your house is empty? If, like me, you turn everything off to minimise the risk of an electrical device that's plugged into the mains, then your NAS is useless as you won't be able to access it if it's switched off. You've not only got to have the NAS turned on, but your Internet connection too.
why would you turn off everything? Do you not have security cameras? automation like heating/ cooling that you can control? Ring doorbell? How do you monitor your home when you travel if everything is off?
Hi Thank you for your explaining but the problem is when i upload it i can see the files as (preview) and i have to open it one by one to fine what i need it takes from me long time to find what i want especially when i have hundreds of (pdf) files and hundreds of short movies CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT ? Thank you
If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant. I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
So many questions, but first, before I buy, my need is to backup my iphones, photos, and music. I have a P.C. and just purchased my first Mac. I need to backup all the things I mentioned but I want to use it for backing up my Mac and to use as primary storage for any video editing I do on my Mac. Do you know if I can easily swap and store files on the Synology while using Final Cut Pro. I am brand new to this so if you have the answer, talk to me like a I am 10 years old so I can understand you. THanks.
We all have that 10-year old kid in us -- and Liron speaks to the 10-year-old me in each of his videos. I found the Synology website, and it may offer answers to some or all of your questions! Good luck. 😊
the answer is simply yes. I use Premiere Pro and have all my project files on the NAS. I can also give my editor access to the project. As far as other files/ photos/ videos etc. go, once you install the app on your phone/ computer, it will just automatically backup to your NAS without you having to do anything.
NO. My personal data newer goes thru any internet connection. Only personal hard drive old fashionable way. Just I use 3 copies of it, its mpossible all 3 will fail same time
so i have a pc with over 50tb drives in it and i have a nas with 2x16tb how is it gonna save everything? also your house burns down now you lost everything so you need a 2nd external backup for the backup
Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
Better than having all of your stuff in the cloud with everyone else who was dumb enough to keep it there in the first place. CS is the biggest mass-surveillance program in the internet's history, or at least one of the biggest. Given it's all in one spot. That thing about houses burning down is easily avoidable by having your physical storage in a gym bag or bookbag that you often take with you when you go out. Or have a copy stored somewhere else. Both have risks, but cloud storage is a bigger risk, especially in 2024.
3:27 Why would you edit out the part where you slide the drive into the tray? Like, the potential benefit lost to the observers versus whatever it is you gained by removing the footage doesn't make sense?
Sorry guys I’m really new to this. Literally started looking into something like this today. I have some questions….. Do you have to pay for the NAS service to get access to your files from your mobile device? I guess I’m asking, what’s the start up cost for something like this?
As of July 12, 2024: $830 In the Box: Synology DiskStation DS923+ 4-Bay NAS Enclosure, Accessory Pack X 1, AC Power Cord X 1, RJ-45 LAN Cable X 2, Quick Installation Guide X 1.
Can you make a video explaining how having internet access to your nas is secure? Mostly everyone advises against that so i have not opened mine up to that.
Is it possible to have this setup and it sync to the users portable drive like you can with Dropbox or One drive? That way when you make a change to a file it auto syncs to the NAS.
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.
Are this synergy backup systems not very expensive 🤔 nothing for poor people like me and I don't like special power plug ports, if I would like power it a other way its a pain to get adapters, also why not use the routers USB ports for backups instead wit more drives putt on a clonning drive stuck in module, that works without a pc, you send data to it and it copying all data to the rest drives automatically and they cost only 50£ or so. 🤔
Does anyone uses TH-cam as a way to store and backup video files on your phone? Is it safe and reliable? Does youtube compress or affect the original video and audio quality? When I download the video from youtube, will there be any reduction in video and audio quality or watermarks? I dont want to spend $50 just on 6TB of iCloud storage. Hope someone can answer this :)
Hi, have you had any problem with the mobile app saying “install drive on your Synology storage” when it’s already installed? Also because of that, it doesn’t sync
If I back up my photos from my iPhone to the synology storage, then delete the photos from my iPhone will the photo still stay on the synology storage cloud or will it delete it too?
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
This is still a single point of failure. If the synology gets fried due to some electrical surge etc, your data is gone because both the hard drives are connected to & powered by the same device. Just make 2 backups on the separate hard drives. Its not difficult if you setup a schedule & use freeware like syncback SE. And its WAY cheaper. These really are gimmicks, people trying to get you to buy their stuff when its not actually needed, and sometimes not even the best option to accomplish whatever it is you're trying to. Save your hard-earned $$$.
I have a laptop that is connected 50% of the tike to my asus proart monitor so struggling to cone up woth something that suits me for storage and redundancy. I was thinking of doing a NAS but soon we are glojg travelling in a van and the lack of decent internet at times and lack if space will make that NAS idea not doable. Whatever direction i twke, my personal, non work stuff is backed up on 4 extetnal drives (2x seperate 2 disc raids in mirror) so the chances of both going down at the same time is practically nil. Plus 1x set is in my parents loft, out of the way. Any ideas on a lightweight, slim storage method for either 2 drives i can raid or even better, 4 drives i can raid?
Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
Suggest which software I should use to have this feature: I have a laptop with a 500 GB hard disk. I have an external hard disk of 2 TB. I have a folder named DataA on my laptop with 475 GB of data consisting of folders and files. I want to move everything to DataB on the external hard disk. However, I should only see shortcuts in DataA for all folders, subfolders, files, and subfiles in the same hierarchy in DataB. Additionally, whenever I save any folder or file to DataA, it should upload to the external hard disk folder DataB automatically and save only a shortcut in DataA. Optionally, I should also be able to store specific files and folders (not shortcuts) in the folder DataA on my laptop. This software should be similar to OneDrive, but it should not use the cloud; instead, it should use my personal external hard disk, which is offline.
Greetings form South Africa. I always backup my data to 2 external drives. Two copies then exist. One drive is off site at my work and one drive at home.
Personally, I don't find a massive difference; especially if its just background data backups. If you are actively working on a large project that is run directly off the NAS then maybe.
1. Synology offers cloud storage, its very affordable, make sure you backup your Synology NAS there as well, alternatively Cloudblaze/Ms Azure BLOB/AWS. 2. learn to use MFA with your NAS if you don't want someone gaining access to your NAS. 3. Learn how to protect your NAS from Ransomware attacks, SMB is very vulnerable to Ransomware attacks.
Hello I really like your videos, I have a question for you there are like 3 models Synology DS423, vs DS923 and DS920 you recommend and the second question what happens if someone steels le your Device, this means you loose all your data? Thank you very Much.
does the autosave to onedrive feature of ms office work on this? Regarding the cost: I've found older models of synology for around 250$, and two WD 1 tb HDD's cost around 200$ so it is 450$ for that. If you are paying 10$/month for a cloud service you break even in 4 years. It is not that bad. And if you have spare HDD's lying around like I do, you will break even in just 2 years. However if you go for premium models with 5 slots they indeed cost a lot.
"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive.
Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house.
"Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down.
"Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup.
If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff.
You can use BackBlaze too.
I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents.
I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage".
But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
EXACTLY
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
I do a combo of Synology Drive and then backup crucial data using AWS Glacier
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
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Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
@@keithsmith3118 It's just too expensive for large amounts of data but for local, critical files, absolutely!
Do you mean houses get burnt every month or is it a rare occurrence ?
For my work I run 3 local machines holding 3 copies with ZFS raidz1 file system.
Fire, flooding, theft….now you have a device that needs protection from all three…….I agree with your strategy and sorry you lost your home in 2021
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
This is why you use a mix of both if you want to be completely secure. I mostly use cloud storage as backup, but now I'm making a NAS so I can free up some cloud storage and in case the cloud provider goes under, I have my own backup. And even with a NAS I'm going to put my most important files on portable drives which I can store in a drawer.
Exactly. cloud storage is safer.
@@sidbrun_ how much do u pay for cloud storage and how many GB storage do u get
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
@@TechSway Agreed. And every type of storage media has its weak points, there's no one size that fits all.
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
See pinned comment
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly.
*As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
Cost is too high, instead of that I will buy 3 wd passport 4 tb each will cost max 342 usd. I can do 3 copy of my same data.
I was disappointed to learn how expensive this system is to obtain & put into operation. Well, I figure I will need to continue w/cloud storage.
I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
Does the Plex work directly from the NAS? I would love that. I have a small business and a personal use for such a system.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of TH-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
Does it have 256 bit encryption? From debice to storage cloud
I turned TH-cam in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.
You're so smart.
TH-cam compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind.
Source: I made TH-cam videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.
Thanks for sharing this great tip!! You're doing the lord's work my dude LOL
I do mine in Facebook messenger
@@McLovinsFunhouse There is a way to retreve the original files you uploaded to TH-cam, the only downside to that is the only option you get is to download literally everything
I LOVE Liron Segev and his channel. I have learned SO MUCH from him, I would be totally lost otherwise. Thank you very much!!
Great to hear!
I subscribed today, thanks for the confirm.
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
So with this, should I delete my cloud storage AND stop using Apple's Time Machine?
It is absolutely incredible how many companies have multiple (different areas of the company) single points of failure and do nothing about them.
Lost me at Ethernet port. Not having internet access in my apartment, how can I offload my phone’s photos and videos to either the ‘cloud’, an external storage device or both ? It’s an iPhone 10
Sorry if I missed it, but is there a wifi option? Physically, I wouldn't prefer to keep the NAS next to my router.
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
People seem to forget one very good reason for NOT using "cloud storage". Your data is on somebody else's computer. Apple devices are always nagging me to set up "cloud storage". No thanks, you already do your best to lock up my data on a device I own (ostensibly), and it seems Microsoft is doing the same by encrypting your data on your hard drive but keeping the decrypt key firmly with them. If I need to store data I do it on at least one external drive and a memory stick just to be sure.
I don't think people forget that. It's just a matter of feasibility.
Well, there are advantages in relying on a professional service versus having to keep everything yourself. And you can always encrypt your data yourself, either at rest using something like VeraCrypt or on the fly using rclone, and then use the public cloud just for storage of the encrypted data and nothing else achieving a true zero trust architecture. In this scenario the keys remain with you and you alone.
The whole reason I don't use cloud. I prefer old school double backup
Yep, people overlook it too easily. They are too quick to trust corporations with their data because they are blinded by the technical prowess. Fact of the matter is: Nobody cares more about your data's security, integrity, and availability than you do. If your lifetime worth of priceless data suddenly goes missing or you lose access to your account and the Cloud provider does nothing to help, you have no form of recourse unless you think you can make a legal case and pay huge fees to take it to court. There's a sea of disgruntled Amazon Prime subscribers out there who have lost access to their droves of personal photos stored in Amazon Photos and Amazon makes no attempt to restore the data. Many reports of empty promises to restore access without any actual results.
Create your own storage system is still a single point of failure. If stolen you have nothing.
So just another single point of failure, and it's exposed to the Internet. My most important documents live on Dropbox and are synced to more than one of my systems. They are also backed up to an entirely different online backup service along with the rest of my files. I've spun up a new MacBook entirely from my backups with no need to transfer anything from the old MacBook. (In fact, I wouldn't have it any other way, as it serves as a regular check of the quality of my backup solution.) This Synology thing is the second worst backup solution a person can have. The only thing worse is a single external drive, and that's only because the NAS drive can be configured to be more reliable with RAID. Literally every other backup solution is better than this.
Well yeah but that's not what they paid him to say... 🤫
Does this backup photos with all the meta data? One of my issues with other back up services is that it never saves the file data, and so the location and date and time is always lost.
It's your own server so whatever you have on your comouter gets backed up.
Do I and can I power off the NAS like my laptop every night? I can’t trust electronics powered on 24/7… thanks for any help
You can but obviously no backups will be done then
wish this video mentioned what happens if my cell phone gets stolen: what happens if I try to access my NAS from a desktop but the 2FA is set up to call my phone? And other similar predicaments. . . .
what you are asking has nothing to do with this a NAS but more with 2FA. In any case, if you have 2FA set up on a phone and it gets stolen, you use the backup code your set up and reset your 2FA.
so this is no different on cloud? since you still giving your data to have an access. And why do you only have 1 external hd? Most people will buy 2-3 external to make sure that their data are safe? $600 for that? You could bought like 20 1tb of external hard disks for that and use it to back up all of your file.
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
I think you missed the entire point of the video. But ok 🤪
I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do.
Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses.
I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device.
Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
100% there is so much stuff in there!
I didn't see any detail about what kind of hard drives were unpacked to slot into the device. Does it come with a couple of empty hard drives ready formatted? If not what size do you obtain and have they to be formatted first NTFS ? FAT32? The back up process seems also to need cable connection to router/modem and I wouldn't be happy to do that as my cable router has no spare ethernet ports and I don't like the idea of my stored data connecting to the internet directly. All a bit confusing so I'll stick to my two cloud storage places and two external terrabyte solid state drives. Keeps my album stuff safe
You can use any drives of any size. You can mix them up too so they don't have to be same speed. Watch the video again. Literally said that.
Flawed advice. Agree with the Synology or similar NAS device like QNAP but 1. You don't need a 4 bay NAS costing a fortune (feel like he was obligated to promote this as video was sponsored by Synology but they have much better priced single bay NAS) 2. You can use OneDrive which is simple to use from mobiles and PCs and then have Synology sync OneDrive or Google drive to NAS. Now you have data in cloud and NAS. A fatal flaw in this suggestion is what if someone breaks in and steals your NAS or you knock it off the table, power surge, or your kid breaks it. It's the same as your portable drive crashing. Rather have data in the cloud and backed up to NAS
My question is;
how do i backup the files on each computer (5x) in a small network but make clients have no access or limited access to Synology in order to protect the backup.
You run the backup client software on each device and set permissions on the NAS software
A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it.
There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.
Hi Liron, someone is remotely making international calls from my sim card which is in my tablet. How are they doing this and how can I stop them?
Call your service provider and get a new sim
@@LironSegev thank you, I will do that. How do I prevent them from doing it again on the new SIM?
Yeeessss!! This is exactly what I was looking for. I hate being so enmeshed into iCloud and G Drive!! Thanks for the video!!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
But Apple iCloud and others use E2EE? Isn't that safe for sensitive documents? Not sure I want another piece of hardware.
I have an office at two different buildings. My office desktop copies my entire user profile to my other office desktop every time my machines are shut down. Both machines are on the same WAN I created a .bat file that first cleans up all .temp files and caches. Maps to the target folder. Copies all files that have been modified since my last backup, disconnects all mapped drives and forces a shutdown of the desktop.. This happens at 5:00pm every day . Both machines already had 2 /500 gig SSD
Drives so all it cost me was 10 minutes to write a .bat script.
No offense, but this is just terrible advice. You are still using one device that is prone to failure, even though you have multiple drives inside. Power surge, fire, theft etc. Not true redundancy, not a way of doing backups professionally. What if you are travelling and your internet connecting is down? and so many more ways for this to go wrong.
No offense but read the pinned comment
Just be aware, it is not a backup solution, no matter what RAID / NAS you set up, if you by accident delete files, they are gone.... you have security against harddrive failure, but not delete files.... or malware / ransomeware.... so some would use the NAS for storing everything, and have a cloud backup service as a real backup.
Respectfully that is not correct as you are mixing up a bunch of things:
1. If you delete a file, it is literally saved on the NAS. In fact there are 8 versions of the file so you can go back to an older version.
2. If you set it up to synch BOTH ways, then yes. You are telling the NAS to delete the file when you delete it - but if you set it up as a one way backup, then no. It will not delete it.
3. If you have malware/ ransomware on your computer it will not spread to the NAS if you set it up that way. Malware can only infect what it can see.
so basically no.
@@LironSegev Yes you are right, provided you keep your files on you computer / drives etc. and have a backup copy on the nas, I was just referring to situation where you just keep all files on nas only…. and that many people thinks that RAID is guarding files in case of unintended deletion, and RAID does only guard against harddrive malfunction 😀
Liron can this be hooked up as a DVR for the TV? What's needed besides the NAS and the TV channels lol?
Not sure that a NAS is the best tool for something like this. You would probably be best served by a DVR-like appliance such as HD HomeRun which, I believe - don't quote me on it! - can record live TV on the NAS instead of its built-in storage if you want it to.
My dad has a NAS system and so do I, and we live in different states. I have about 3 Gb of important stuff on his, and it's separated with encryption from his stuff, and he has the same on mine.
Perfect
Hahaha! Your NAS still is a SPoF too! You need an external backup solution.
any guide how we setup sync locations two locations this to make sure , back are made in difference locations
What is tue heighest rate of encryption that you can choose for these devices ? Thabk you 🙏
Is it waterproof and fireproof like a black box? I thought so.
Thanks!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
What if my hard drive in my computer crashes can it put the whole operating system back on a new drive?
What happens if you go on holiday and your house is empty? If, like me, you turn everything off to minimise the risk of an electrical device that's plugged into the mains, then your NAS is useless as you won't be able to access it if it's switched off. You've not only got to have the NAS turned on, but your Internet connection too.
why would you turn off everything? Do you not have security cameras? automation like heating/ cooling that you can control? Ring doorbell? How do you monitor your home when you travel if everything is off?
Surge protection outlets. fireproof safe.
Hi
Thank you for your explaining but the problem is when i upload it i can see the files as (preview) and i have to open it one by one to fine what i need
it takes from me long time to find what i want especially when i have hundreds of (pdf) files and hundreds of short movies
CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THAT ?
Thank you
Sorry but not following. Upload to what? To the Nas?
Brother, I am using pCloud 500 GB option lifetime. Do you think it is safe?
He said in a previous video that you're basically betting on pCloud being a thing in 10-20 years.
If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant.
I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
So many questions, but first, before I buy, my need is to backup my iphones, photos, and music. I have a P.C. and just purchased my first Mac. I need to backup all the things I mentioned but I want to use it for backing up my Mac and to use as primary storage for any video editing I do on my Mac. Do you know if I can easily swap and store files on the Synology while using Final Cut Pro. I am brand new to this so if you have the answer, talk to me like a I am 10 years old so I can understand you. THanks.
We all have that 10-year old kid in us -- and Liron speaks to the 10-year-old me in each of his videos. I found the Synology website, and it may offer answers to some or all of your questions! Good luck. 😊
the answer is simply yes. I use Premiere Pro and have all my project files on the NAS. I can also give my editor access to the project. As far as other files/ photos/ videos etc. go, once you install the app on your phone/ computer, it will just automatically backup to your NAS without you having to do anything.
@@LironSegev THANK YOU!
NO. My personal data newer goes thru any internet connection. Only personal hard drive old fashionable way. Just I use 3 copies of it, its mpossible all 3 will fail same time
What is the subscription cost to use the cloud software?
What sort of budget do you need for this? Say I need 4TB of redundant storage
so i have a pc with over 50tb drives in it and i have a nas with 2x16tb how is it gonna save everything? also your house burns down now you lost everything so you need a 2nd external backup for the backup
Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.
No encryption or even e2e encryption option? Sata buffer?
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
awesome
why so secretive...😂😆
@@CosmicCitiZenOfficial He's a secret agent
Better than having all of your stuff in the cloud with everyone else who was dumb enough to keep it there in the first place. CS is the biggest mass-surveillance program in the internet's history, or at least one of the biggest. Given it's all in one spot. That thing about houses burning down is easily avoidable by having your physical storage in a gym bag or bookbag that you often take with you when you go out. Or have a copy stored somewhere else. Both have risks, but cloud storage is a bigger risk, especially in 2024.
3:27 Why would you edit out the part where you slide the drive into the tray?
Like, the potential benefit lost to the observers versus whatever it is you gained by removing the footage doesn't make sense?
Sorry guys I’m really new to this. Literally started looking into something like this today. I have some questions…..
Do you have to pay for the NAS service to get access to your files from your mobile device?
I guess I’m asking, what’s the start up cost for something like this?
Can you use as file server? public? - where you just send a link, "Ipaddress/files/test.rar for example?
yes!
@@LironSegev thanks! I will get one, awesome content, very professional subscribed and sharing 👍🏻
@@DrakeTDI can't wait to hear all about it! 🔥
I think you know something about this technology but do you know what is end to end encryption?
Cool but whats the cost.
initial would be more but count long term
As of July 12, 2024: $830
In the Box: Synology DiskStation DS923+ 4-Bay NAS Enclosure, Accessory Pack X 1, AC Power Cord X 1, RJ-45 LAN Cable X 2, Quick Installation Guide X 1.
@@pmgandco6322 ok so free for me because I already have a nas. Thanks man definitely trying this.
How much is the monthly/yearly fees? can't see it on their website🤔🤨
there is none. Its a once off purchase and all the software is free
@@LironSegev Cool, thanks mate👍
I don't have one 😭 how much do they cost?
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Great doctor!
Well, how does the problems of having a hard drive backup be any different for this setup. The hatdware can fail, be stolen,etc
Can you make a video explaining how having internet access to your nas is secure? Mostly everyone advises against that so i have not opened mine up to that.
Ikr. Just use cloud storage services at that point.
Is it possible to have this setup and it sync to the users portable drive like you can with Dropbox or One drive? That way when you make a change to a file it auto syncs to the NAS.
Yup! As long as you can run the app you can tell it what goes where
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
So how if those NAS also broken? isn't it have the similar component with HDD right?
what if you get elctricity short circuit or water somehow on device... You are doomed...
Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.
Are this synergy backup systems not very expensive 🤔 nothing for poor people like me and I don't like special power plug ports, if I would like power it a other way its a pain to get adapters, also why not use the routers USB ports for backups instead wit more drives putt on a clonning drive stuck in module, that works without a pc, you send data to it and it copying all data to the rest drives automatically and they cost only 50£ or so. 🤔
Does anyone uses TH-cam as a way to store and backup video files on your phone? Is it safe and reliable? Does youtube compress or affect the original video and audio quality? When I download the video from youtube, will there be any reduction in video and audio quality or watermarks? I dont want to spend $50 just on 6TB of iCloud storage. Hope someone can answer this :)
This is exactly the system I have. I can be on vacation and my photos get backed up to my RAID half way around the world.
Hi, have you had any problem with the mobile app saying “install drive on your Synology storage” when it’s already installed? Also because of that, it doesn’t sync
If I back up my photos from my iPhone to the synology storage, then delete the photos from my iPhone will the photo still stay on the synology storage cloud or will it delete it too?
2:43 info from
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
House fires in the UK are common. People use chip pans a lot, knock 'em over and set their kitchen on fire.
@@LironSegev mine did a few years ago. Lost a lot of crucial data.
@@texanfournow Who the heck stores their NAS on the floor?
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
When making your own cloud storage how would one opt for one that isn't non-physical?
can i use it for my course videos to be streamed and not be downloadable on my website?
This is still a single point of failure. If the synology gets fried due to some electrical surge etc, your data is gone because both the hard drives are connected to & powered by the same device. Just make 2 backups on the separate hard drives. Its not difficult if you setup a schedule & use freeware like syncback SE. And its WAY cheaper. These really are gimmicks, people trying to get you to buy their stuff when its not actually needed, and sometimes not even the best option to accomplish whatever it is you're trying to. Save your hard-earned $$$.
House fire and your data is lost. Sync it with a Cloud backup is better.
I have a laptop that is connected 50% of the tike to my asus proart monitor so struggling to cone up woth something that suits me for storage and redundancy. I was thinking of doing a NAS but soon we are glojg travelling in a van and the lack of decent internet at times and lack if space will make that NAS idea not doable. Whatever direction i twke, my personal, non work stuff is backed up on 4 extetnal drives (2x seperate 2 disc raids in mirror) so the chances of both going down at the same time is practically nil. Plus 1x set is in my parents loft, out of the way. Any ideas on a lightweight, slim storage method for either 2 drives i can raid or even better, 4 drives i can raid?
Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
you aren't storing your stuff on their system. If you don't want to use their way to connect to your NAS, you don't have to - create your own.
I had an external drive before. It stopped working. Took it to Frys back in the day, and I was out of luck. 😢
Suggest which software I should use to have this feature:
I have a laptop with a 500 GB hard disk.
I have an external hard disk of 2 TB.
I have a folder named DataA on my laptop with 475 GB of data consisting of folders and files.
I want to move everything to DataB on the external hard disk.
However, I should only see shortcuts in DataA for all folders, subfolders, files, and subfiles in the same hierarchy in DataB.
Additionally, whenever I save any folder or file to DataA, it should upload to the external hard disk folder DataB automatically and save only a shortcut in DataA.
Optionally, I should also be able to store specific files and folders (not shortcuts) in the folder DataA on my laptop.
This software should be similar to OneDrive, but it should not use the cloud; instead, it should use my personal external hard disk, which is offline.
Greetings form South Africa. I always backup my data to 2 external drives. Two copies then exist. One drive is off site at my work and one drive at home.
nice! with Eishkom you need to keep your data backed up so it doesnt become corrupt when you loose power....again and again
How is this not also a single point of failure also? ⚡️💀
see pinned comment
Are the new, higher speed and reliability SD cards preferable to using hard drives for backing up personal data?
Personally, I don't find a massive difference; especially if its just background data backups. If you are actively working on a large project that is run directly off the NAS then maybe.
very solid viedo. good advice AND narration. Thank you Liron!
Does it come with the hard drives or I should get separately
Nice video, but what do you install the NAS to ..a network server, your desktop, or your router?
you connect your NAS to the router with the network cable. The NAS is a self contained "computer"
1. Synology offers cloud storage, its very affordable, make sure you backup your Synology NAS there as well, alternatively Cloudblaze/Ms Azure BLOB/AWS. 2. learn to use MFA with your NAS if you don't want someone gaining access to your NAS. 3. Learn how to protect your NAS from Ransomware attacks, SMB is very vulnerable to Ransomware attacks.
Hello I really like your videos, I have a question for you there are like 3 models Synology DS423, vs DS923 and DS920 you recommend and the second question what happens if someone steels le your Device, this means you loose all your data? Thank you very Much.
Appreciate you being here 🔥 to answer your question, see pinned comment.
Thank you.
does the autosave to onedrive feature of ms office work on this? Regarding the cost: I've found older models of synology for around 250$, and two WD 1 tb HDD's cost around 200$ so it is 450$ for that. If you are paying 10$/month for a cloud service you break even in 4 years. It is not that bad. And if you have spare HDD's lying around like I do, you will break even in just 2 years. However if you go for premium models with 5 slots they indeed cost a lot.