Muslim SHOCKED By MULTIPLE Quran's & Corruption [Debate] | Sam Shamoun
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God is not the author of confusion.
The greatest challenge i see in Islam is a failure to question their religion. For us Christians, we have the right question whatsoever we want, but for our brethrens it is different. You just keep what you are told as a truth.
Sam is the best👏🏽
I remember reading a historical article that explained how a particular muslim leader in the dark ages ordered that all Qurans were to be destroyed and that he would create one standard Quran by bringing the varying qurans into one, in addition there were these guys in the different Muslim armies, who would be the religious motivators for these Muslim soldiers that knew the Quran by heart and this leader had them put to death so they would not point out that this new standardised Quran was different from the Qurans that these men had learnt since childhood… it was from a couple of German historians who were specialists in Medieval Islam and the Middle East…. I wish I could remember the source….. but that was the gist of it and the evidence from contemporaries of the time all gave the same story of how there were so many variations of the Quran… even then…..!
"..it was from a couple of German historian..."
Most likely you are talking about "inarah de" (saarbrücken school), but I've never heard about a story when Muslim were killed because they memorized another Version.
However, the editing of the Quran is quiet intereting and until the 10th century there were Versions of the text that were then rooted out.
(we know about becaue islamic scholars wrote about)
But still there are different Variants of the same text wich either has transmiion Errors or intentionalchange by a scholar.
Hatoon Tash bought over 30 diferent Qurans still in Print in modern times.
The Variations are not grounhaking but they are there.
Please do find the source.
Heard that too, quick google says it was uthman
I believe the person you are referring to is Abu Bakr. Dude ordered the burning of various copies of the Quran
This guy is joking right. So much denial. Then he deflects and runs to the Bible. The Bible works and has truthfulness. The Quran is actually meant to be the uncreated word of God.
Caliph Uthman collected and burned all collected copies of the Korans in 655AD . Why did he do this? He wanted to standardize all copies but he failed to collect all copies. In 1924 the Egyptians throw all copies into the Nile and restandardized the copies. In 1917 the Islamic world realized that they books were opposite to the Bible and had a great dilemma. They we forced to state that the Bible was changed but they cannot tell when Was it before Muhammeds death or after his death. The discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls proves that God is able to keep his word pure and perfect forevermore Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ will be forgiven
90% of muslims don't even know what their religious sources say about their religion..they just go with whatever their imam or sheikh told them...God bless you bro Sam.
See this abdul, he's attacking Christianity when he don't know his religion. It's the Christian who is now educating him about his religion.
Are these people bewitched or something? Why do they refuse stuff in their books??????
They're brainwashed. Typical muslim.
because their whole life and family is built around being muslim. They lose a lot of this life by becoming apostate often times their life too...
Because they don’t read it, and sadly most Christians don’t read the Bible either.
They’re under Satan’s teaching and ownership. None of them know the truth.
Proud to be Christian
The Quran's Corruption is why there's so much hurt and hate in the world _ Thanks Sam
Kingship and ownership stand on different assumptions and carry different implications. For one, kingship assumes there are subjects and a hierarchy of authority, whereas ownership spreads to non-human items. One has a vertical structure and the other is horizontal most of the way.
Qur'ān Contradiction - Surah 11:81
1 Hafs Qur'ān
*travel with your family*
This man is so educated and informed. God give you strength to keep doing this. You are amazing. When they realise Jesus died for us its totally at odds to what they have with their prophet. Who seems to want them all to do jihad
God bless you sir you are god sent you are using the word to combat evil not violence and your being heard so clearly ❤
I like how the best response the muslim has is "yeah, but..."
WHY do Muslims keep saying Christians worship idols 🙄 We do not prostrate to a statue or the Cross. Christians Worship God through Christ Jesus in Spirit whom we have not seen. Yes there are people who pray to a statues but that's not Christianity. Muslims pray 5x towards a Stone in mecca. They MUST go to it , walk arou d 7 times and kiss it like Muhammad did. They are praying to a Black cube with a meteorite inside it. That's idol worship. My God is Invisible, My Saviour is in Spiritual form which I cannot see but i feel ❤, and the Holy Spirit, who is Invisible resides inside my soul and heart helping me with my walk. You will not find a statue or anything we worship, pray, or prostrate to in the form of a man,a cross, a cube a stone etal. The Cross ✝️ is a symbol of our Saviours death, burial and resurrection. It reminds me of what God did for me.
There are many religous branches of christianity, but the word is the word.
And the word is truth
So actually, the difference between "multiple translations" of the Bible and "multiple versions" of the Quran is that there is no way to authenticate the true Quran, whereas the Bible has several different features that allow us to objectively identify the correct version of the Bible, even wuen presented with mutiple "versions" or "translations".
The Muslim guy has sort of the right idea when it comes to there being "70+" versions and only one is true, but in his case the only way to "decide" or "figure out" which is the true Quran is to trust in his own beliefs and understanding; the problem with this is that two equally good people can have two different understandings.
The difference with the Bible is that there are features such as ELS codes and structural cyphers (if you don't know what these are, think "puzzles", "crosswords" and "riddles") that all break apart if you alter a passage, a word, or even a letter. That means that, even 3000 years in, we can take a "version" of the Bible back to its root (the actual physical copies of the old scrolls and parchments that it was translated from) and easily spot changes. If you want to get deeper into this, you can explore issues like the Targums and Septuagints and also Jewish theological history.
It’s been changed 👍🏾👍
You're great Sam... keep it up ❤❤❤
Legend
Poor guy is so lost. He is trying his best to convince himself that islam makes any sense.
Raping slave woman taking captive in a war as a prize and calling that "the will of allah" (i can't say god), means your allah isn't the one who is sending you to paradise after you die. And that is just one example.
And then The Only God said to us "you ever look a woman with a Lust you comited a sin." That only sounds from someone who is perfect.
Let me tell you something. You rape someone you re going to hell, you kill someone you are going to hell, you wish something that is not yours... Same result. But you can ask for forgiveness. He is willing to forgive, but who will enter heaven no one can say for sure, cause many won't.
Jesus is The One with The Father and The Holly Spirit. We serve one God. If a man can have a soul and a body and then again when body dies soul lives on. That soul is the same person. So man can be 2 in 1 but God can't be 3. God is almighty as we all know. He showed Himself as Holly 3 and He is The One that He showed. And The One you ask for forgiveness is Jesus Christ.
Only few will enter heaven guys...
I have an off topic Question:
The Hijrah (Mohammed flees from Mecca to Yathrib) is not mentioned in the Quran?
I have never thought of this but it is an important in islamic traditions, but not in the holy text wich tell us how to take an adoptive Son's wife and other nonsense, seriously?
Jay smith shows there are 93,000 differences between Qurans
How do you keep all the facts and data together, mate?
Keep up the good work.
They don't show this limitless grace for the Bible. This is a spiritual problem l
Actually if I remember correctly the two guys Alfadi claims there are thirty completely different
Thank you Sam
Not only is the Muslim guy wrong about Quran, he's also wrong about the Christian Bible. But it says a lot that his defense for the Quran is "but the Christians"
Different types of quran
Warsh Quran
-Qulan Quran
-Hafs quran
-Kaluf quran
-Al- duri quran
and many more
Quran is the same?so does the bible many version,
TRANSLATIONS,but the JESUS PRRSENTED IN ALL THE BIBLE IS THE SAME
COMING OF THE MESSIAH,HIS SUFFERING,
HIS DEATH,AND THE RESURERECTION AND SOON COMING KING IS THE SAME,HALLELUJAH
Yeah, he doesn’t get the difference between translation and version 😂 NONE OF THEM DO 😂
Sam I was watching some of your older videos and I have a question. In the past you have referred to the NIV translation of the Bible as the "Not Inspired Version" and in reference to the KJV you said "If it doesn't have the king on it, it doesn't have the king in it". I know your faith has evolved over the years so my question is, do you still believe these things about the different translations and if not what translation do you use now?
How many different Qurans can you get from mosques? Many
Good afternoon Sam I enjoy your debates with Muslims and other Christian sects. Can you please refer to me a bible study course or books I should read to increase my knowledge of the bible and to learn original languages of the Old testament and New testament. Thank you
*I have the following clues is this correct (YES or NO): 🖐🖐+👁+🦵= 👹?*
If NO who is it then?
Definitely have it right. YES
There’s over 30 versions found
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Nooo u cut off the best part
The fool denounced his own pagan muslim faith.
Gbu sam
Why is he refusing to listen. "He will, yes, but..." I hope he changes.
No there are 30 Qurans.
Hey brother SAM, from what you've ALREADY said you probably DIDN'T see the BIG interview DEBATE of Christians Vs Muslims of the PBD podcast with PATRICK BET-DAVID show, it was REALLY GOOD. But they want to bring MOHAMMAD HIJAB next to debate, and in my HUMBLE opinion, you're the BEST OPTION for a guy like him. You probably know him and his TH-cam ALREADY, but he's SMART, AGRESSIVE & a COCKY guy cuz he knows his stuffs, but i think you BETTER from watching you for looong time. You've CONVERTED me from Seventh-Day-Adventist to a Traditional Real Biblical Christian from the Video you did about it and the interview you had with that guy. It would be my DREAM to see this debate and bring GLORY to GOD from the Christian People if this happened. I HOPE the RIGHT people SEE THIS COMMENT and especially YOU SAM and this will probably happens in GODS PERFECT TIMING AMEN!😌🙇🏽♂️🙏🏽
Sam just body bag this guy he became Clueless .
I could imagine spending half my life studying about a belief that at the end deceived me I would be pissed too Jesus Christ is God there’s no other
Once a donkey it will stay a donkey. You cannot make it understand and it wiii never change into a mule.
What live is this?
D'après Ibn Abbas (qu'Allah les agrée), le Prophète (que la prière d'Allah et Son salut soient sur lui) a dit: « Celui que vous trouvez qui pratique l'acte du peuple de Lot, alors tuez celui qui pratique l'acte et celui sur qui il est pratiqué (*) ».
CHRISTIANS should only follow one Holy Scripture, that they can see the original Hebrew and Greek words shown within it. Concordance. Any other books are not meant to be used though read and can change the true original meaning of what was written.
To damn hard to listen to this people.they’re stucked with their strange believes
Could you examine the work of Dr. Gunther Luling. His thesis claims that Mohammed is a title for Jesus and that Quran is a conglomeration of Talmudic and Syrian Christian works
Sources?
Master and owner and king are the same thing.....but which one is the eternal word of allah?
Undefeated his name is King Jesus and our Lord and King and God forever and ever
Amen
2:53 ~ What is Sam trying to flush out of his nostrils there? 😋
Pedophile worshippers saying Christianity is wrong is the most hilarious thing.😂
BOOOOOOOM!
Dear brother in christ and in our father be blessed for this knowledge. Pls tell the world strongly,firmly,boldly, that the man jesus called not only himself the son of god,but the entire human race. He asked the mankind to take part in divine nature, he made the way by sacrificing himself. He insists everybody to be the children of our father. And i ask the people one simple question, what is the mans next step or position after he played his long role for 70,80,90, or may be 100 years on earth? What he should be after this? What Should be his goal? To reborn in this same world? To be a slave of some God? Or to be a child of god to explore the fathers creations,which he kept for us to do so? Pls somebody think and realize and reply.
This guy has no idea about his faith the TORAH is written the same over 6,000 copies all agree and already been proved true by many scholars, the TORAH has never changed only different translations due to plagerism, but they stole YESHUA'S and give them to allah and twist the TORAH writings around i have found no truth or sense in this Islamic faith at all, and have no idea why so many would come to a ridiculous faith after plainly seeing the contradictions, plagerism and lies or silly sayings in it.
When you start an argument with I believe it’s no longer a matter of fact but of opinion . That there in itself is arrogance. Praise Jesus .
Muslims can the Pagens have the Kaaba BACK
And every single christian knows the sermon on the mount and the crucifixtion.
The Muslim almost seems gets it at @4:55, but then his brain is programmed to reject the evidence staring at him.
"If some are different than others,then somebody had to have made it up. But there is one that is true."
Dude! How do you know which one is true? 🤣🤣🤣
Didn't your allah say no one can corrupt his words? You proved that somebody was able to change allah's words. 🤣🤣🤣
"the one thing about iSlEHm" 🤓
lmao
sam
they always dinning the truth
Litterally making shit up. because so many christian dont know the word they think he is smart but anyone who speaks arabic knows hes taking nonsense and the guy he is talking to is also involved.
Amen Jesus Christ 🙏❤
Best religion out there ? Be a little of everything , or none of any , like GOD does
Anything he says go back to that scolar fiñd out your self cause he lies sometimes the commentary about suyuti go find out in his book الإتقان في علوم القران suyuti mention scholars different opinions but he didn't say nobody knows the meaning
YHVH..."BEHOLD the HAND, BEHOLD the NAIL." Jesus is revealed in the original name of God 840 BCE.
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