I don't know why, but I always prefer your Vlogs when you're in the UK. Your other ones are still awesome, but your UK ones are Awesomer! (If that's even a word?!?!)
I'm a Geordie and it's very much a part of my character. I love being from Newcastle. However as someone who has lived in London I do find that some people have told me I don't speak 'properly' and it can be a bit of a blow as I'm proud of my accent and where I'm from. On the flip side the Geordie accent is said to be the most friendly accent in the UK and it can be an excellent talking point when in a new place. We have so many accents and dialects in this country that really it depends on what you mean by 'properly'? As a country we have a range of accents and I think that's a great thing to have.
As a spaniard I'm really attracted to british accents, the stronger the accent is, the better; that's why I prefer mancunian, scottish or geordie! haha
The whole pronunciation thing really just depends on where you live and where you are from. "Mispronunciation" in one person's opinion, could be common dialogue in another's. However, I would agree that attraction depends on how someone expresses themselves and what language they choose to do so.
Yes, Ben, I totally agree. Speaking well and presenting yourself in a "classy" manner generally attracts more positive attention. I believe it's true that those who swear often, lack a basic vocabulary and use the swear words to fill in what they are trying to express.. Which tends to come off as uneducated and sloppy.
I agree, but maybe it's discriminatory? Maybe it's just society that causes us to be more attracted to intelligent/educated people because they are generally from a higher class? I like this discussion!
I'm from north east England and have quite a strong Geordie accent. Some people like it but others hate it. I like an accent on a person as long as you can understand it as it gives them an identity of where they're from. It also makes them more relatable to speak to. :)
I was picking up my girlfriend from Heathrow a week ago, a van had broken down on the slip road out of the car park... wasn't the best hour of my life!
I have that dish you spotted on the wagamamas board, it's not hot like you said, but then again I avoid the chillies. I agree with your comment, the way people talk/accents are important and can make someone more attractive. Yours is rather nice :)
TH-cam is my life at the moment! My favourite youtubers have changed so many times and at the moment, you are my favourite. I don't understand why your not TH-cam Approved.
Today I have pretty much just binged on almost all of the Costa Rica blogs, it's been an emotional rollercoaster and I feel like I know you a lot better. Your blogs are always so well put together and you have stepped my day up from mediocre to pretty flipping good. Thank you :)
I completely agree Ben! It's the most attractive thing in a guy when they know how to talk correctly. Expecially to us women! I hate it when guy's feel they can talk to you any way they want to and think i would just accept it lol.. just no...😑 again another brilliant vlog Ben it's good to have you back home 😆
I agree with your opinion... it's all depends where you are, in my case, I'm doing uni in Italy, and my italian is no so good, I speak it in my spanish accent and even say words in spanish in every sentence. but people love it! and sometimes girls found it attractive even though I'm not speaking correctly.
I agree too. I really like people who can express themselfs good and I think that it is always good when you are able to be polite and can talk in different ways to people. I think that this discussion is really interesting :)
I know I'm probably getting annoying by commenting on everything, but I mean everything that I say, I truly am blessed to have found you, you have changed my prospective on life, trying to make others feel the same as me!
Completely agree that people who speak well and pronounce words correctly are so attractive! So many people think I'm stuck up for thinking this! So glad you agree x
Ben! I've missed you and your feel good aura! I've been out of the TH-cam habit for a couple of months... Congratulations on getting the Brownie pile so big! Accents can go either way for me - current celebrity obsession has a broad Geordie accent and I'm from Hampshire, quite the difference. Looking forward to getting some feel good vibes from you in the near future, stay awesome!
I think what you said is correct but we mustn't extend it to accents and such because if someone's from a certain area they might not be able to help it, especially if English isn't their first language. And some people struggle with annunciating their words - to me it sounds like I'm annunciating perfectly but when I hear my voice on recording I realise I'm kind of droning/slurring and it kind of sucks but I can't change it.
I totally agree with you, Ben. I like men who can express themselves in more than half sentences and grunts, speak well in front of parents and elders and know their thank yous, pleases and you're welcomes. But an occasional, heartfelt swear word is totally acceptable! 😂 x
I think you're totally right at 4.22. I do agree, people who swear too much and are rude most of the times feel repellent to me, whether they're of the other sex or not. I gotta admit sometimes I swear a little bit more than what's considered appropriate, definitely gonna change that.
I do agree that speaking eloquently and properly is a major turn on mainly because that person instantly gains my attention. However, I've come to realise that intelligence does not always correlate to how articulate or well spoken a person is. I've encountered some people whom despite the way they communicate happen to be very astute and intelligent. Whilst on the other hand I've come across some people who sound smart but behind that facade turn out to be not very sharp individuals.
it's different if you have an accent that's imbedded into your culture and that's just the way you speak compared to, if you go out of your way to speak terribly. I'm enjoying your vlogs Ben and it's almost, no wait it IS a source of happiness for me. Like I literally get excited to get home and watch your recent vlog. (Side note: I'm still so happy that I met you on the day of Caspar's meet up in Jan :D)
Ben I am huge on not swearing too much. I understand once in a while we all slip up but I feel like we're all capable of interacting and expressing ourselves in a proper manner. Oppose to having no awareness in what we say. I feel like its a lot more classy and does more for us in the long run as well.
Accents and pronunciation is SO important! There is nothing less attractive than people who drop their t's, say f's instead of th's etc. in my opinion! Muchos agreement with you there Ben. And, welcome back!
I agree, a well spoken man is much more attractive to me than one who is not. Even when typing or texting I much prefer whole words and complete sentences.
I completely agree that speaking well is attractive- its a sign of intelligence which we're hardwired to look for in another person! That being said of course accents are attractive (yours in particular) and and an fyi for good speaking to you and all fellow brownies... if someone asks you how you are or how you're doing say "I'm well" instead of "I'm good" proper english! :D Great vlog btw!
I'm from Holland and I do notice a lot of 'Dunglish' (Dutch words literally translated into English). I work in a restaurant and my colleague updated the menu last week because she said she is excellent in a few languages. She did however translated 'oxtail' from the Dutch menu to 'beef penis' in German. I have a dyslexia, Dutch isn't even my first native language because I was raised with a dialect. But I still try very hard to write and speak properly. I have a love for words that can't be translated into any other language. Saudade - cafuné - dépaysement.
I think the way someone speaks says a lot about them. Swearing isn't attractive, but it's normal to swear every now and then, if you're really angry or something.
:) welcom back to the "old world"...! Yea, flying in from the states or from the west into europe in general causes such turbulences to one's biorhythm (or at least to mine)... But coming home always is a goooood and sometimes also an a little bit weird experience!
)they're not immediately more attractive to the opposite sex, they're more attractive to you. attraction is subjective. for some people that's their natural accent, and i'm sure people of the same ilk find them attractive, there's someone out there for everyone no? generalisations are just never a good idea really, just a word of advice.
Okay. I normally don't get into debates online but I wanted to give my two cents since this is a very interesting topic to me (I'm a sociolinguist) and you have touched on this previously when you tweeted about ignoring emails where people write "your" meaning "you're". From a linguist's perspective I have to disagree with your statement because what is considered proper pronunciation and proper speech in general is a social convention that is established by those who are in power, and thus, have prestige. What I'm trying to say is that what is considered proper is somewhat arbitrary. Here in the U.S., certain varieties of English are stigmatized simply because the people who speak them are from lower social classes. This situation is the same in the U.K. (and anywhere else for that matter). Received Pronunciation (RP) or BBC English is considered proper English in the U.K. because the people who speak it have a high status in society. If the people who spoke the cockney variety of English had a high status in society, the cockney variety would be the most prestigious dialect in the U.K. and that would be what we would hear on BBC. This is called overt prestige. There are also instances of covert prestige where people hold on to nonstandard speech in order to identify themselves with certain characteristics, e.g., being manly, being cool, being black, etc. So as you can see, these are all social issues. When we discriminate based on the way people speak, it actually has nothing to do with the language system itself, but rather on our perception of the people who use that system to communicate. Unfortunately, this type of discrimination is accepted throughout the world because it is a lot more indirect than saying I don't like you because of your culture. It's more accepted to say "I don't like you because of the way you speak", or "you can't work here because no one will understand your accent". So, I'm saying all of this to say that you should be careful with these types of comments because you have a lot of followers that admire you (including myself) and will hang on your every word. You are obviously entitled to your opinions and have the freedom to express yourself, but there is a thin line between language discrimination and racial/cultural/group discrimination. You are not racist. I know this. However, your comments on language can be taken that way. Many of us discriminate based on language without noticing it because it's deeply rooted in our social behavior. Since I'm a linguist, I pay very close attention to how you speak, and you often slip into nonstandard speech, which is normal. No one naturally speaks a standard language. I would suggest some readings on sociolinguistics if you would like or you could look it up in Wikipedia. Also, maybe this book would interest you: Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue: The Untold History of English by John McWhorter. Sorry for such a long message.
Super interesting thank you!! :) This subject is really interesting to me, because I pick up sayings/accents/alternative language very easily from people I like/get along well with. Perception of culture though language, some people I know speak very differently from their parents to be 'cool' or accepted, so it got me thinking about why they do it? I guess we are also attracted to cultures we are familiar with. I'll be sure to check out that book. Cheers
Hm... - I follow several vlogging channels on youtube and am usually really hesitant placing any comments - but in Ben's channel it somehow works differently for me.... As someone else mentioned earlier, this kind of reaction the brownies show to a remark of Ben points out the interesting quality of this channel... so now parts of the „community“ plunged into a discussion about the quality of language! My first thought was that you, Ben gave the impulse to discuss quite different topics: accent, swearing, correct pronouncement and one more which is a bit difficult to catch: to speak well or talk nicely.... DelaSyd wrote absolute interesting and clarifying things about the social background of language, the use of language as an instrument of prevalence and the danger of judging a person by the level of correct pronouncement and eloquence. The aspect of accent is in my oppinion on the one hand something different because the accent reflects the local origin of the speaking person - but on the other hand also contains the risk of creating a negative correlation between the accent (in terms of idiom) and character/intellect... I do not really have an idea about the situation in Great Britain but here in Germany a lot of (nonbavarian) people see inhabitants of Bavaria who talk with that particular kind of accent as especially rooted to the soil or in close touch to nature - and that’s of course not always true... but beyond that there’s a tendency to make fun of inhabitants of the south-east part of Germany, Saxony, because of their idiom. For example a quite wellknown entertainer created a song about that idiom wich showed those local people as a little bit narrow minded or a radio commercial presents a fictious NSA agent as totally unable to cope with a recorded telephone conversation in saxonian idiom which he takes for an absolutely undecodeable new code... which is quite funny concerning that NSA agent and his capabilities... but problematic in terms of reinforcing prejudices. Alltogether in my view this has something to do with our perception (or maybe fear) of the strange in others which unfortunately sometimes leads us to close our minds to that instead of trying to be open minded and curious. One more issue is how to deal with swearing - but it’s too late to get worked up over that (in German „zu spät, dieses Fass aufzumachen“, in one-on-one translation: „too late to open that vat“ :) ) . Hope for more interesting thoughts about the language issue.... oops - this is a quite long message, too....
I totally agree about the pronunciation thing and it being more attractive! It is personal preference and I suppose it depends where you are from also. By the way your vlogs are my travel inspiration for when I hit that age I can explore the world ! Keep up the good work and positive vibes 😃 !
I agree with you! I'm always so conscious of how I speak and I worry that I don't speak with the nicest accent anymore because I've spent too much time around the ridiculous norfolk accent the past few years! I love the accent but not on me haha
Hey Ben. I absolutely agree about meeting someone who speaks well, how attractive it can be. Obviously this combined with other attributes can make a real difference. I'd be interested in what made you bring this up .. ?! But anyway, I really enjoy your vlogs. Thanks so much.
Dude, yes. Sometimes it could be difficult understanding someone if they don't know how to speak properly/form sentences but I also try to keep in mind where they're from and if they're trying to learn a new language or assimilate into a certain culture :)
Accents don't matter but always good to be polite.. Enjoying your vlogs as always.. I know this situation you are going through is tough but at the end you will feel more yourself and be able to get on with life.. Hope this helped keeping making good content and come down to Devon soon :)
Well I'm Mexican & I've lived in America my whole life so my accent is good but sometimes I mumble do to mispronunciation of words cause I'm also so used to speaking Spanish, idk just felt like saying this
Maybe how attractive you find well spoken people probably depends on how well spoken you are or like to think you are. And you can have an accent and still speak well.
hm i think you're more than right! it's always attractive when someone doesn't swear or isn't able to talk properly :) it's nice to see you arrived safely at home ^^ hopefully you will catch up with Steve soon, just love that guy so much :D
I completely agree- personally I think speaking well and watching your language is all part of how people of whatever gender will perceive you, although I guess it does depend on accents you are used to hearing. Your words tell a lot about you- what your outlook is on life and the respect you have for yourself :)
I don't know why, but I always prefer your Vlogs when you're in the UK. Your other ones are still awesome, but your UK ones are Awesomer! (If that's even a word?!?!)
YES, I completely agree, I just love it when Ben is back in the UK.
Really? The SA vlogs were the bomb!
But... but... the Costa Rica vlogs were off the hook!
Yeah, I know they were awesome it's just there is something about when he's in the UK, I can't really explain it.
I'm a Geordie and it's very much a part of my character. I love being from Newcastle. However as someone who has lived in London I do find that some people have told me I don't speak 'properly' and it can be a bit of a blow as I'm proud of my accent and where I'm from. On the flip side the Geordie accent is said to be the most friendly accent in the UK and it can be an excellent talking point when in a new place. We have so many accents and dialects in this country that really it depends on what you mean by 'properly'? As a country we have a range of accents and I think that's a great thing to have.
I love the Geordie accent too! I was referring more to pronunciation and correct use of words, but I love a good accent!
Yeah I know what you mean, I just wanted to put that out there to see what you thought. Love your videos.
As a spaniard I'm really attracted to british accents, the stronger the accent is, the better; that's why I prefer mancunian, scottish or geordie! haha
Ahh cool, good to hear :)
The whole pronunciation thing really just depends on where you live and where you are from. "Mispronunciation" in one person's opinion, could be common dialogue in another's. However, I would agree that attraction depends on how someone expresses themselves and what language they choose to do so.
I think people are attracted to familiarity too, I agree that it's opinion!
Yes, Ben, I totally agree. Speaking well and presenting yourself in a "classy" manner generally attracts more positive attention. I believe it's true that those who swear often, lack a basic vocabulary and use the swear words to fill in what they are trying to express.. Which tends to come off as uneducated and sloppy.
I agree, but maybe it's discriminatory? Maybe it's just society that causes us to be more attracted to intelligent/educated people because they are generally from a higher class? I like this discussion!
Welcome home
I'm from north east England and have quite a strong Geordie accent. Some people like it but others hate it. I like an accent on a person as long as you can understand it as it gives them an identity of where they're from. It also makes them more relatable to speak to. :)
I was picking up my girlfriend from Heathrow a week ago, a van had broken down on the slip road out of the car park... wasn't the best hour of my life!
I have that dish you spotted on the wagamamas board, it's not hot like you said, but then again I avoid the chillies. I agree with your comment, the way people talk/accents are important and can make someone more attractive. Yours is rather nice :)
Love your vlogs in uk more so than when you're in any other part of the world! Maybe it's the vibe💕
TH-cam is my life at the moment! My favourite youtubers have changed so many times and at the moment, you are my favourite. I don't understand why your not TH-cam Approved.
It's nice to have you back ben!!
Today I have pretty much just binged on almost all of the Costa Rica blogs, it's been an emotional rollercoaster and I feel like I know you a lot better. Your blogs are always so well put together and you have stepped my day up from mediocre to pretty flipping good. Thank you :)
Lovely mum!..The best moments in Vlogs!
Couldn't agree more, when a guy speaks well and politely it would 100% make me want to speak to them more.
agree 100%...i almost never swear...my dad was an english professor so language is everything to me.
Its actually realy warm atm and ben cimes back like ITS COLLLD
I COMPLETELY agree! People who speak properly are definitely more appealing than those who do not.
Very attractive to hold yourself well. To speak correctly and take pride in yourself. Spot on Ben!
This is why I'm subscribed to Ben"s channel cuz he's very interactive with his viewers!!!
I completely agree Ben! It's the most attractive thing in a guy when they know how to talk correctly. Expecially to us women! I hate it when guy's feel they can talk to you any way they want to and think i would just accept it lol.. just no...😑 again another brilliant vlog Ben it's good to have you back home 😆
I agree with your opinion... it's all depends where you are, in my case, I'm doing uni in Italy, and my italian is no so good, I speak it in my spanish accent and even say words in spanish in every sentence. but people love it! and sometimes girls found it attractive even though I'm not speaking correctly.
I love avocado toast like that. I put a bit of cayenne pepper on mine - try it!
Glad you're home!
Just as you come the weather gets a bit chilly! Previously its been sunny, no clouds and warm for last 10 days
i know!
I agree too. I really like people who can express themselfs good and I think that it is always good when you are able to be polite and can talk in different ways to people. I think that this discussion is really interesting :)
Back in ol' London town again ^.^
I know I'm probably getting annoying by commenting on everything, but I mean everything that I say, I truly am blessed to have found you, you have changed my prospective on life, trying to make others feel the same as me!
Nice to see you home! So wish I could go to digifest and not go to work! Hope you have a great time!
If your going to itatube in Milan you should check out lake garda about 60km from Milan
Completely agree that people who speak well and pronounce words correctly are so attractive! So many people think I'm stuck up for thinking this! So glad you agree x
Ben! I've missed you and your feel good aura! I've been out of the TH-cam habit for a couple of months... Congratulations on getting the Brownie pile so big! Accents can go either way for me - current celebrity obsession has a broad Geordie accent and I'm from Hampshire, quite the difference. Looking forward to getting some feel good vibes from you in the near future, stay awesome!
I think what you said is correct but we mustn't extend it to accents and such because if someone's from a certain area they might not be able to help it, especially if English isn't their first language. And some people struggle with annunciating their words - to me it sounds like I'm annunciating perfectly but when I hear my voice on recording I realise I'm kind of droning/slurring and it kind of sucks but I can't change it.
Can't wait to see you at DigiFest 💕
I totally agree with you, Ben. I like men who can express themselves in more than half sentences and grunts, speak well in front of parents and elders and know their thank yous, pleases and you're welcomes. But an occasional, heartfelt swear word is totally acceptable! 😂 x
I couldn't agree more about the way people talk makes a difference on if you are attracted to them or not!!!! Finally someone who agrees with me!!!
I think you're totally right at 4.22. I do agree, people who swear too much and are rude most of the times feel repellent to me, whether they're of the other sex or not. I gotta admit sometimes I swear a little bit more than what's considered appropriate, definitely gonna change that.
I do agree that speaking eloquently and properly is a major turn on mainly because that person instantly gains my attention. However, I've come to realise that intelligence does not always correlate to how articulate or well spoken a person is. I've encountered some people whom despite the way they communicate happen to be very astute and intelligent. Whilst on the other hand I've come across some people who sound smart but behind that facade turn out to be not very sharp individuals.
Thinking about it I think I might qualify as the latter group of people lol
I find it very attractive when one can speak well. Accents are a plus.
Totally agree Ben, that really is the best ketchup! The brown sauce made by the same company is awesome too! 😊
Don't even get me started on the Brown sauce :P
it's different if you have an accent that's imbedded into your culture and that's just the way you speak compared to, if you go out of your way to speak terribly.
I'm enjoying your vlogs Ben and it's almost, no wait it IS a source of happiness for me. Like I literally get excited to get home and watch your recent vlog.
(Side note: I'm still so happy that I met you on the day of Caspar's meet up in Jan :D)
***** You should come to Ireland, you'll love it here! :)
YOU LET THAT SPIDER GET AWAY? I WOULD MOVE OUT SERIOUSLY
Beautiful shots in the beginning! 👌
Thanks for the heads up, I definitely skipped the spider part! Loved the veelog as always :)
That sauce is from Tiptree near where i live!!
Ben I am huge on not swearing too much. I understand once in a while we all slip up but I feel like we're all capable of interacting and expressing ourselves in a proper manner. Oppose to having no awareness in what we say. I feel like its a lot more classy and does more for us in the long run as well.
Awesome video as always. Keep it up, Ben !!
Speaking well with correct grammar is sooooo key! And yeah I agree that accents are important and can make someone more attractive. Kinda like yours!
Very well edited and executed another reason why I idolise you
amen to that advice Ben!
yaaaaay! i missed your UK vlogs! x
Incredibly jealous of your touring and just relaxing
Thank you for the spider warning this time, I shut my eyes!!! Welcome back, enjoy sleeping off the jet lag!
Couldn't agree more with that!
Welcome home Benny, all your healthy snacks looked so good :)
I don't know Ben, after reading so much Steinbeck, the slightly inarticulate Western accent makes for some of the most endearing characters.
Ben try putting lime on the avocado.
Accents and pronunciation is SO important! There is nothing less attractive than people who drop their t's, say f's instead of th's etc. in my opinion! Muchos agreement with you there Ben. And, welcome back!
Ben where do you get all your background music from? It's Awesome!
It's always listed & linked in the description box. Usually Soundcloud :)
I can't believe you let that spider go free under the tv that thing was huge!!!
I agree, a well spoken man is much more attractive to me than one who is not. Even when typing or texting I much prefer whole words and complete sentences.
I seriously hope you're going to come to digi in toronto :)! I'd love to see you there :)
I completely agree that speaking well is attractive- its a sign of intelligence which we're hardwired to look for in another person! That being said of course accents are attractive (yours in particular) and and an fyi for good speaking to you and all fellow brownies... if someone asks you how you are or how you're doing say "I'm well" instead of "I'm good" proper english! :D
Great vlog btw!
I'm from Holland and I do notice a lot of 'Dunglish' (Dutch words literally translated into English). I work in a restaurant and my colleague updated the menu last week because she said she is excellent in a few languages. She did however translated 'oxtail' from the Dutch menu to 'beef penis' in German.
I have a dyslexia, Dutch isn't even my first native language because I was raised with a dialect. But I still try very hard to write and speak properly.
I have a love for words that can't be translated into any other language. Saudade - cafuné - dépaysement.
All accents can sound nice if you are well spoken
and have good manners (trying to type this with correct punctuation)!
Accents are culture Ben!
ARE WE ALL JUST GONNA ACT LIKE THE SPIDER CLIP DIDN'T HAPPEN
For real!!lol
I think the way someone speaks says a lot about them. Swearing isn't attractive, but it's normal to swear every now and then, if you're really angry or something.
I'm going into Kingston tomorrow it would be so cool if u were there to
:) welcom back to the "old world"...! Yea, flying in from the states or from the west into europe in general causes such turbulences to one's biorhythm (or at least to mine)... But coming home always is a goooood and sometimes also an a little bit weird experience!
hey Ben what about another trafalgar square meetup that would be awesome
)they're not immediately more attractive to the opposite sex, they're more attractive to you. attraction is subjective. for some people that's their natural accent, and i'm sure people of the same ilk find them attractive, there's someone out there for everyone no? generalisations are just never a good idea really, just a word of advice.
I don't understand how you can go to sleep at night knowing there's a giant spider roaming around your house... I can't. :(
when you eat avocado use salt pepper vinegar olive oil and lemon juice its the best ben
Genuinely spat out some water when seeing the title and thumbnail! Welcome home!
Okay. I normally don't get into debates online but I wanted to give my two cents since this is a very interesting topic to me (I'm a sociolinguist) and you have touched on this previously when you tweeted about ignoring emails where people write "your" meaning "you're". From a linguist's perspective I have to disagree with your statement because what is considered proper pronunciation and proper speech in general is a social convention that is established by those who are in power, and thus, have prestige. What I'm trying to say is that what is considered proper is somewhat arbitrary. Here in the U.S., certain varieties of English are stigmatized simply because the people who speak them are from lower social classes. This situation is the same in the U.K. (and anywhere else for that matter). Received Pronunciation (RP) or BBC English is considered proper English in the U.K. because the people who speak it have a high status in society. If the people who spoke the cockney variety of English had a high status in society, the cockney variety would be the most prestigious dialect in the U.K. and that would be what we would hear on BBC. This is called overt prestige. There are also instances of covert prestige where people hold on to nonstandard speech in order to identify themselves with certain characteristics, e.g., being manly, being cool, being black, etc. So as you can see, these are all social issues. When we discriminate based on the way people speak, it actually has nothing to do with the language system itself, but rather on our perception of the people who use that system to communicate. Unfortunately, this type of discrimination is accepted throughout the world because it is a lot more indirect than saying I don't like you because of your culture. It's more accepted to say "I don't like you because of the way you speak", or "you can't work here because no one will understand your accent". So, I'm saying all of this to say that you should be careful with these types of comments because you have a lot of followers that admire you (including myself) and will hang on your every word. You are obviously entitled to your opinions and have the freedom to express yourself, but there is a thin line between language discrimination and racial/cultural/group discrimination. You are not racist. I know this. However, your comments on language can be taken that way. Many of us discriminate based on language without noticing it because it's deeply rooted in our social behavior. Since I'm a linguist, I pay very close attention to how you speak, and you often slip into nonstandard speech, which is normal. No one naturally speaks a standard language. I would suggest some readings on sociolinguistics if you would like or you could look it up in Wikipedia. Also, maybe this book would interest you: Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue: The Untold History of English by John McWhorter. Sorry for such a long message.
Super interesting thank you!! :) This subject is really interesting to me, because I pick up sayings/accents/alternative language very easily from people I like/get along well with. Perception of culture though language, some people I know speak very differently from their parents to be 'cool' or accepted, so it got me thinking about why they do it? I guess we are also attracted to cultures we are familiar with. I'll be sure to check out that book. Cheers
Hm... - I follow several vlogging channels on youtube and am usually really hesitant placing any comments - but in Ben's channel it somehow works differently for me.... As someone else mentioned earlier, this kind of reaction the brownies show to a remark of Ben points out the interesting quality of this channel... so now parts of the „community“ plunged into a discussion about the quality of language! My first thought was that you, Ben gave the impulse to discuss quite different topics: accent, swearing, correct pronouncement and one more which is a bit difficult to catch: to speak well or talk nicely....
DelaSyd wrote absolute interesting and clarifying things about the social background of language, the use of language as an instrument of prevalence and the danger of judging a person by the level of correct pronouncement and eloquence. The aspect of accent is in my oppinion on the one hand something different because the accent reflects the local origin of the speaking person - but on the other hand also contains the risk of creating a negative correlation between the accent (in terms of idiom) and character/intellect... I do not really have an idea about the situation in Great Britain but here in Germany a lot of (nonbavarian) people see inhabitants of Bavaria who talk with that particular kind of accent as especially rooted to the soil or in close touch to nature - and that’s of course not always true... but beyond that there’s a tendency to make fun of inhabitants of the south-east part of Germany, Saxony, because of their idiom. For example a quite wellknown entertainer created a song about that idiom wich showed those local people as a little bit narrow minded or a radio commercial presents a fictious NSA agent as totally unable to cope with a recorded telephone conversation in saxonian idiom which he takes for an absolutely undecodeable new code... which is quite funny concerning that NSA agent and his capabilities... but problematic in terms of reinforcing prejudices. Alltogether in my view this has something to do with our perception (or maybe fear) of the strange in others which unfortunately sometimes leads us to close our minds to that instead of trying to be open minded and curious.
One more issue is how to deal with swearing - but it’s too late to get worked up over that (in German „zu spät, dieses Fass aufzumachen“, in one-on-one translation: „too late to open that vat“ :) ) .
Hope for more interesting thoughts about the language issue....
oops - this is a quite long message, too....
May the 4th be with you!
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I'm going to Digifest and I live in Newcastle! We leave at 11pm on Sat to catch the 7 hour bus. I think its sll gonna be worth it tho!! #excited lol
So exicited for the puppy!
That Pilot was sooooo FABULOUS!!
I totally agree about the pronunciation thing and it being more attractive! It is personal preference and I suppose it depends where you are from also. By the way your vlogs are my travel inspiration for when I hit that age I can explore the world ! Keep up the good work and positive vibes 😃 !
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I agree with you! I'm always so conscious of how I speak and I worry that I don't speak with the nicest accent anymore because I've spent too much time around the ridiculous norfolk accent the past few years! I love the accent but not on me haha
You are always making my day!!! Thanks dude! :-)
Hey Ben. I absolutely agree about meeting someone who speaks well, how attractive it can be. Obviously this combined with other attributes can make a real difference. I'd be interested in what made you bring this up .. ?! But anyway, I really enjoy your vlogs. Thanks so much.
Dude, yes. Sometimes it could be difficult understanding someone if they don't know how to speak properly/form sentences but I also try to keep in mind where they're from and if they're trying to learn a new language or assimilate into a certain culture :)
Accents don't matter but always good to be polite.. Enjoying your vlogs as always.. I know this situation you are going through is tough but at the end you will feel more yourself and be able to get on with life.. Hope this helped keeping making good content and come down to Devon soon :)
I agree that it is very attractive when when someone speaks properly.
Well I'm Mexican & I've lived in America my whole life so my accent is good but sometimes I mumble do to mispronunciation of words cause I'm also so used to speaking Spanish, idk just felt like saying this
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Ben will you please come to Edinburgh soon and do a meet up, you and Steve should come up for a weekend!
Maybe how attractive you find well spoken people probably depends on how well spoken you are or like to think you are. And you can have an accent and still speak well.
Welcome back mate
Now you need to go to LA to be with louis and steve! :D
why did you let the spider just go?! :o
at 4:50 the second part maybe not much on the accent i think! kind gives u a distiction:) maybe.
hm i think you're more than right! it's always attractive when someone doesn't swear or isn't able to talk properly :) it's nice to see you arrived safely at home ^^ hopefully you will catch up with Steve soon, just love that guy so much :D
I completely agree- personally I think speaking well and watching your language is all part of how people of whatever gender will perceive you, although I guess it does depend on accents you are used to hearing. Your words tell a lot about you- what your outlook is on life and the respect you have for yourself :)
Great video! Just like all the other ones!