Junior….they are original only once, it think it would be a shame to blow this car apart, however, it’s not my car, the owner can do whatever he, or she wants to with it. I know you said you searched for months for this car, but perhaps there would be a better candidate that’s still out there, waiting for your magic touch rather than messing with this one, just my opinion
First it’s the owner’s car. They can do what they want with it. Second, NCRS is not “telling” you what to do - recommending, yes, telling you, no. No one from NCRS is going to bring charges against you. I think you’re missing the intent of maintaining an “original” car. The car can be used as a benchmark for future reference. It’s only original once. Some folks value this type and condition car more than one that’s been over restored. These condition cars can also be an excellent platform for restorations back to showroom new. Again, it’s the owner’s car. They can do what they want with the car, just document the hell out of it before disassembly!😎
You do great work, I WOULD OBJECT if this customer wanted to do a "retromod"done to this car.When i see a corvette chopped and destroyed i feel sick to my stomach.........
I agree with you. There were 27000 plus Corvettes built in 1966. What the Bloomington awards do is make this Vette a no drive vehicle. When this Vette was built & sold it was a sports car to be driven. Have you ever seen 27000 autos together in one place? That’s a lot of cars.
I agree with you Junior the car will good for at least 60 to 70 years more after you restore it. The way it is it wont last more than 10 years. With a C2 you want it to be at its best always.
Restored Corvettes are a dime a dozen. I am confident that this Bloomington Gold, Benchmark and an NCRS Top Flight Corvette will command a higher value, than a restored version of it. The owner should look for another Corvette if they wants perfection. If the owner does not care about originality, then why is it so important to find an original trophy blue Corvette. Your shop can make a show 66 trophy blue Corvette from another Corvette that would not be of this status. Sorry, many restoration shops would turn down this work, and suggest finding another example to restore. Awards or not, there are original cars that should be appreciated for what they are and left alone.
Somtimes you need an original car as reference to restore all the others. Once you change them you lose direction. After 50 years very few are original.
Great video Jr. i agree with you 100 percent take the survivor and make it that much better. It's a great car to restore. If the customer wants this done he should get it done. Thank you for the video.
It takes a long time to understand and mature to the mindset of appreciating the awards that only original cars can achieve. You can restore it a hundred times, its only original once. You want chrome plated restoration that people at a parts store parking lot show will give you a $2 dollar purple plastic trophy? Or do you want a car that is recognized and validated by some of the most knowledgeable Corvette people in the world as a car that sets the standards of originality? Theres a million restored Corvettes, only a handful of originals.
Well said Mr. Genius, although I believe "benchmark" and "survivor" status should be reserved for only a few cars. If you are going to recommend a car be not touched, it had better be like the one in this link: www.goodingco.com/lot/1966-chevrolet-corvette-427-390-coupe/
“It’s only original once…” motto of the NCRS gang. These guys are well intentioned, but they speak of “investment values” and their cars are essentially ornamental and rarely driven. The truth is, these C2s are 1960’s tech GM cars. They have a beautiful (in my opinion) shape, but there are many things that can be done using modern tech to improve these cars both mechanically, safety and beauty-wise. Make them look better with modern paint. Make them drive better and more safely with modern mechanicals. Then DRIVE them, they are cars to be enjoyed! Then restore/refresh them again in a few years when they begin to look worn and run rough. A C2 that is rarely driven is a sad Corvette.
If a customer brought it in to be restored by you.. that’s what I would do. It will definitely improve the car for the future and make it much more reliable!
I think maybe you are taking this message out a contact and reason why Ncrs are not telling you not to restore it in the best interest of Corvette purist they’re only original once Junior you do one heck of a job on the restoration not taken any credit away from you I love the channel but for younger generations that are wanting to know the originality how it come off the factory Assembly line if you restore one you can’t duplicate the exact way it come off the assembly line that would be like taking a Picasso painting and just using regular paint and duplicating it obviously it’s up to the owner it’s his car his decision
Ya'll are missing the point! Have a bunch of vettes in all different stages of wear and restoration! Why stop at just one?! Seriously though restomod C2s are my favorite, but I would love to have an original sitting right beside her for the basis of comparison and the occasional parade days!
High end restoration shops are like the proverbial carpenter that only sees a world of nails. NCRS means something irrespective of those who prefer to wrench the car to death to "make it better."
I’d never submit my C2 because I don’t pursue those awards, but in fairness to the Bloomington and NCRS guys, the previous owner had to have brought his car to be judged to receive those awards, and was obviously pleased to receive them. The judges were just doing what they do.
My dream C2 would be a patina look, that I could drive anywhere and use. The shinny...do not toutch..garage queen..your afraid to drive in the rain, not for me.
It totally up to you and the Customer. I have been playing with Corvettes since I was 18 and I have forgotton more than some of the judges know. I came from the group that Corvettes where a passion and not just because You have a lot of Money. I bought my First Corvette in 1970 it is a 1962 Corvette. It was the first Corvette at the very first Bloomington Corvette Coral in 1973. Mainly, beause I am one of the four people that founded the Bloomington Show. Can't wait to see this car when its all done !
Kinda hard argument... A car is original once. as a time piece the car is extremely unique and its paint code matches its production. . If changing original factory to upgrading chassis, new engine parts, better re- paint.. why does it matter at that point that it matches it paint code on trim tags...If everything is taken apart to put back together, then why not rebuild a less valuable by a White '66 and just paint it trophy blue? thoughts
They're only original once. Why not resto mod it and make it really nice? Hundreds of restored cars out there but how many original ones, thanks to people like you. You should be proud. When you're done "restoring" it will look just like all the other over restored cars you've done.
Obviously you don't know what NCRS is all about. It's his car and he can have you do what he wants. However, if that is a true Bench Mark/ Survivor it shouldn't be touched. " Their only original once" and your restoring it will ruin it.
Hey there Junior, I think the rarity of the model would factor in the decision. I personally would think twice about messing with 427/435 or such. As far as I can see, there's nothing particularly rare or uber special about this one. That being said, I'm on the fence about tossing an original chevy part in favor of a repro part. But I don't own one yet, so it's hard to say. Take care, Dan
I was a Corvette club Vice president for many years. my feeling is What you do is a great thing, makes it better safer, and more fun. I love a nice restored car they need to be driven and enjoyed.
Hey Junior, really enjoy your videos. I have been involved with Corvettes since 1969. When I purchase one I do with it as I want to get the most enjoyable experience for me. As others have stated there is a place for the NCRS cars. I really like the way you improve your builds as I would say the way GM should have built them in the first place. Your builds are stunning and I know your customers will enjoy them for .any years to come. God bless, Jerry
Maybe that society should find and buy these cars as well. Then they can do or not do anything they want with theirs. Your work looks great and you are doing a lot for preservation.
NCRS should develop a separate, but equal, category for C2/C3 cars that are judged in the same manner the existing Top Flight requirements stipulate, except relaxed regarding exact dating of factory and NOS parts/components. In addition, the new category would allow any factory option that 'could have' been ordered from the factory to be on the car. For example, a C2 with a 427/435 HP engine could not be equipped with AC as that was not a factory allowed configuration. I believe this would encourage increased participation in NCRS Flight judging and other activities. I'm not suggesting any changes to the existing NCRS rules for those who want to have their C2/C3 cars judged against the strict, as built at the factory rules. But with no existing factory, 'as built' records for C2/C3 cars, unless an owner has the original documents (which is in a very low percentage of cases...and tank stickers are typically partially or non-legible or non-existent), it is commonly thought that many C2/C3 cars are being represented as 'as built' at the factory cars, when they are not/likely are not. So why not take away the incentive to cheat and replace it with a judging category that encourages participation but also rewards restoration to the same factory configuration we 'could have' ordered? NCRS should add a Top Flight category for such C2/C3 cars and perhaps title it "Factory Configured". If any NCRS higher up would like some additional thoughts I have on this idea, please reach out. wayne.mackie@comcast.net
The car interior has been touched so the benchmark is out the window. But have to blame the owner. There is a place for benchmark cars-museum pieces. If the owner wanted a driver; whether numbers matching or not, he should have purchased one instead of a benchmark. Pass on the benchmark car and leave if for someone else to preserve it. Buy a driver in less than ideal condition, save some money and have Horsepower Warehouse go to town on it.
I would perform the restoration. I wouldn't feel safe driving around in a car with 60 yr old components. Plus safety features barely existed in the 60's.
In 1980 I bought a 1970 442 Convertible in Matador Red and 110K original miles! It had been hot rodded a bit but paint was decent, interior very nice and when you stomped on the gas it smoked a bit. Anyhow for the first two years I just drove it and enjoyed it. I did some smoky burnouts on occasion and was the typical young man with a cool car. So to make a long story short it got some quarter panel damage in a small accident so I decided to blow the car apart and not only make it like new but better than new. It was apart for 2 years because that's how long it took for me to do it in my spare time and as the money came in. The engine was built to get more horsepower than original! The Matador Red seemed like an old dated color so I went with a Chrysler Garnet Red two stage Miracril paint. I added a W30 wing. When it was done it looked better than original and ran better too so I was very happy with the results. Back then basically all my friends were trying to make their muscle cars cooler than they were before so a lot of mods were done. So if that is what you want or in this case the customer I would say no harm no foul!
At the time they were built, gm didn't do anything extra as is being done now to preserve them. No powder coating, etc. They were everyday cars to drive, often a person's only car, and GM only wanted them to last 6 or 8 years so you could buy another one. Make them cheap and reap the profits. 75 to 80 year olds know what I mean. They depreciated so fast, people had 24 month loans so they didn't owe more than it was worth. Years later, people began to save them, but they're 65 years old now. Remember when 78 pacecars came out and dealers charging 50k? Now theyre everywhere with factory wrappers with low prices. Old guys, like me, like to see them saved, but people that weren't born yet are ok with mods or restoration. If the owner doesn't get it upgraded by you, he will pull it and take it where he can get what he wants, so you might as well do it. Judged cars are judged by people that were conceived in them and don't always agree how they should be. A 65 factory tour by my brother discovered that if they ran out of bolts, there was a hardware store across the street and they would buy them there. Then judges look at untouched cars and say things have been changed! Sorry it's so long, I'm 71 and now have the '65 my 81 year old brother ordered. So I have seen the days when most were driven, some saved, and a lot of them wrecked because you really could buy C2's for 500-700 bucks at one time. No disrespect Intended and hope none taken. Just reviewing my experience. Remember "save the wave" and Corvette News?
In watching a few of your videos, and this one today, it seems like there is a measurable amount of hesitation, since you're asking us! So to settle your conscience, why don't you put it up for sale, at a nice high right price. Let the market then decide if it should be restored or preserved. My bet is someone will pay top dollar for the way it is now. Seems to throw money away to spend 50 or a hundred grand or whatever you're going to charge, and it won't make the car really worth that much more. But if this was the guy's dad's car or something like that, and he's got the extra Dinero, and all other boxes above have been checked, then you are free to play rector set with it.
Disagree. Why tamper with something that age which has the good look and originality? To spend 50 to 100 k just to improve a few imperfections seems ridiculous to me. Leave it alone and let a purist enjoy as is. Too many restored cars that look fake. By the way, I deplore resto mods- they really ruin classic car heritage. Terry S. NCRS.
This would be enough for me to pass on purchasing this car. There was no doubt a premium placed on it for the awards and certifications which force you to maintain the car as is if you want to retain the value. I respect what Bloomington has done for the hobby and the Corvette in general. However, too much of anything can and will eventually be a negative. It's a rolling piece of art. Make it as reliable and safe as possible and enjoy it. If that means a frame off with other than factory finishing's, so be it. Car should be called the Bloomington Blues
As I have said before…….if I had the money……..66 coupe, 5 or 6 speed manual, fiber springs , powder coat frame ( and other parts) , small block with Holley sniper fuel injection, stainless brake components….basically the new stuff that makes it a nice drive. I would keep the exterior and the interior as close to original because I like the look. No garage queen for me. .
Junior I agree with you %100. Take pictures of it and document it then have at it. Put all of your special touches on it and give the customer what they want. Let the Bloomington snobs do whatever with their own cars. I think you are doing a fantastic job preserving these wonderful cars for future generations. When I get to old to drive mine any more I will most likely be bringing it to you for my next generation to enjoy. Keep up the good work.
The color blue looks like robin egg it looks beautiful black interior most definitely it would be nice to see this with a black convertible top and the hardtop done in black as well maybe even vinyl Yes & No. I would have it restored to a a original but I would upgrade it as well just like you are talking about especially in the engine bay I think are there upgrade the engine that is in there by pulling maybe a turbo on it to make it look like it's got some power or I would put something bigger in there Iike a " 427 big block" too sweet too cool I like this ride but I also like the blue C3 white top convertible that's sweet looking
it is only a car , there are a lot of them on the road , a huge number of them have been molested by their owners , personally I appreciate something clean reliable and unmolested , the thing about matching numbers and that is for investors , who don't appreciate the car for what it really is , but what it can return to them in a retail profit later down the road. , but every one to their own I suppose
Leave it. Alone its true survivor repeat 427 are worth big money. Leave it under lock and key i have ared split window with 40.000 original miles priceless im a collector i have cars with low mileage all true survivors hope this helps you take care
Your shop is a delight to the eyes in the horrors the world is heading to. I actually intend on visiting to purchase a classic Vette , however i must comment the Caveman beard you have grown looks F__ kin RIDICULOUS !!! Do you really live in the woods....? Or tryin to prove......what ? Shame, surrounded by such beauty !!
@@johneismark190 corvettes not enough for you ... you have to add personal attacks on the guy bringing you the great content? That's pretty uncalledfor.
If your customer wants a more reliable car that's his decision it's a different generation in the classic car market look at all the classic car Auctions they have something for everyone I agree with your comments can't make everyone happy love the channel
It's the customers car. Put flares on it and a mod 70's air brushed dragon on the hood if he wants. Nobody from NCRS will come to his house and arrest him.
Restore the car if that what the owner wants. However it's mentality like yours why we have no original cars cars left in the hobby. All the restorers think they can build the car better than the factory and maybe they can. But once you restore this car it joins all the other classic cars that have been restored. Which makes it nothing special.
No offense, but if you're going to tell me not to restore my car, I had BETTER see your name on my car's title. If not, tough luck. Go reference the National Corvette Museum for your benchmark. Meanwhile you don't own my money or my property. Suck it purists.
I wanna do what you do,I love this,went to school for it in the 1980s,wish I was working there with you
Where are you located,I'm in South Philadelphia,Pa.
God Bless You!!!
What is the auction value "As Is" versus after restoration? Some may want a "virgin" Corvette.
cars last only so long without service or maintenance, or restoration at a certain point if it's survived that long, you're 💯 right
Junior….they are original only once, it think it would be a shame to blow this car apart, however, it’s not my car, the owner can do whatever he, or she wants to with it. I know you said you searched for months for this car, but perhaps there would be a better candidate that’s still out there, waiting for your magic touch rather than messing with this one, just my opinion
I’m sure that you’ve heard it said, “it’s only original once.” The purist motto.
First it’s the owner’s car. They can do what they want with it. Second, NCRS is not “telling” you what to do - recommending, yes, telling you, no. No one from NCRS is going to bring charges against you. I think you’re missing the intent of maintaining an “original” car. The car can be used as a benchmark for future reference. It’s only original once. Some folks value this type and condition car more than one that’s been over restored. These condition cars can also be an excellent platform for restorations back to showroom new. Again, it’s the owner’s car. They can do what they want with the car, just document the hell out of it before disassembly!😎
How much fun is it working for rich snots?
I think you start with a car that needs restored this car doesn't need anything
I agree with you. Restore it. I have a c2 67 convertible that I’m restoring now. I what it to look stock,but also a great driver.
You do great work, I WOULD OBJECT if this customer wanted to do a "retromod"done to this car.When i see a corvette chopped and destroyed i feel sick to my stomach.........
I agree with you. There were 27000 plus Corvettes built in 1966. What the Bloomington awards do is make this Vette a no drive vehicle. When this Vette was built & sold it was a sports car to be driven. Have you ever seen 27000 autos together in one place? That’s a lot of cars.
I agree with you Junior the car will good for at least 60 to 70 years more after you restore it. The way it is it wont last more than 10 years. With a C2 you want it to be at its best always.
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Restored Corvettes are a dime a dozen. I am confident that this Bloomington Gold, Benchmark and an NCRS Top Flight Corvette will command a higher value, than a restored version of it. The owner should look for another Corvette if they wants perfection. If the owner does not care about originality, then why is it so important to find an original trophy blue Corvette. Your shop can make a show 66 trophy blue Corvette from another Corvette that would not be of this status. Sorry, many restoration shops would turn down this work, and suggest finding another example to restore. Awards or not, there are original cars that should be appreciated for what they are and left alone.
Wish I had a Jr. Corvette
Somtimes you need an original car as reference to restore all the others. Once you change them you lose direction. After 50 years very few are original.
Thanks for mentioning my son ( Carson) and his knowledge of the White Widow. We made it home and the Royal Bobcat GTO looks really good in my garage.
Love the videos. I need a midyear or two. Lets talk. D.
What would Jay Leno do?
They are telling you that you have to not do a restoration. It is a recommendation Relex, the owner can do whatever he wants.
Go for it👌
Great video Jr. i agree with you 100 percent take the survivor and make it that much better. It's a great car to restore. If the customer wants this done he should get it done. Thank you for the video.
It takes a long time to understand and mature to the mindset of appreciating the awards that only original cars can achieve. You can restore it a hundred times, its only original once. You want chrome plated restoration that people at a parts store parking lot show will give you a $2 dollar purple plastic trophy? Or do you want a car that is recognized and validated by some of the most knowledgeable Corvette people in the world as a car that sets the standards of originality? Theres a million restored Corvettes, only a handful of originals.
Well said Mr. Genius, although I believe "benchmark" and "survivor" status should be reserved for only a few cars. If you are going to recommend a car be not touched, it had better be like the one in this link: www.goodingco.com/lot/1966-chevrolet-corvette-427-390-coupe/
to modify this car will devalue it
Giving you an award does not mean that they have purchased the car
It is their money. If they want to change up that survivor - all good. I would probably pic a more common car to do the build.
“It’s only original once…” motto of the NCRS gang. These guys are well intentioned, but they speak of “investment values” and their cars are essentially ornamental and rarely driven.
The truth is, these C2s are 1960’s tech GM cars. They have a beautiful (in my opinion) shape, but there are many things that can be done using modern tech to improve these cars both mechanically, safety and beauty-wise.
Make them look better with modern paint. Make them drive better and more safely with modern mechanicals. Then DRIVE them, they are cars to be enjoyed! Then restore/refresh them again in a few years when they begin to look worn and run rough.
A C2 that is rarely driven is a sad Corvette.
If a customer brought it in to be restored by you.. that’s what I would do. It will definitely improve the car for the future and make it much more reliable!
I would keep it as is its a time capsule.
I think maybe you are taking this message out a contact and reason why Ncrs are not telling you not to restore it in the best interest of Corvette purist they’re only original once Junior you do one heck of a job on the restoration not taken any credit away from you I love the channel but for younger generations that are wanting to know the originality how it come off the factory Assembly line if you restore one you can’t duplicate the exact way it come off the assembly line that would be like taking a Picasso painting and just using regular paint and duplicating it obviously it’s up to the owner it’s his car his decision
Call it the Marco, that's my name
Now give yourself a big hug. OMG
It’s your car. Do what makes your happy
Ya'll are missing the point! Have a bunch of vettes in all different stages of wear and restoration! Why stop at just one?! Seriously though restomod C2s are my favorite, but I would love to have an original sitting right beside her for the basis of comparison and the occasional parade days!
High end restoration shops are like the proverbial carpenter that only sees a world of nails. NCRS means something irrespective of those who prefer to wrench the car to death to "make it better."
I'd just have to get 2
I’d never submit my C2 because I don’t pursue those awards, but in fairness to the Bloomington and NCRS guys, the previous owner had to have brought his car to be judged to receive those awards, and was obviously pleased to receive them. The judges were just doing what they do.
...as to the 66 sacrilege survivor, call it: "Ex-foam reformed".
Leave it alone, it’s original once
My dream C2 would be a patina look, that I could drive anywhere and use. The shinny...do not toutch..garage queen..your afraid to drive in the rain, not for me.
It totally up to you and the Customer. I have been playing with Corvettes since I was 18 and I have forgotton more than some of the judges know. I came from the group that Corvettes where a passion and not just because You have a lot of Money. I bought my First Corvette in 1970 it is a 1962 Corvette. It was the first Corvette at the very first Bloomington Corvette Coral in 1973. Mainly, beause I am one of the four people that founded the Bloomington Show. Can't wait to see this car when its all done !
I agree I’ve restored two back to the way it rolled of the dealer floor .
corvetts are cars to enjoy, not art work!!
Kinda hard argument... A car is original once. as a time piece the car is extremely unique and its paint code matches its production. . If changing original factory to upgrading chassis, new engine parts, better re- paint.. why does it matter at that point that it matches it paint code on trim tags...If everything is taken apart to put back together, then why not rebuild a less valuable by a White '66 and just paint it trophy blue? thoughts
They're only original once. Why not resto mod it and make it really nice? Hundreds of restored cars out there but how many original ones, thanks to people like you. You should be proud. When you're done "restoring" it will look just like all the other over restored cars you've done.
Obviously you don't know what NCRS is all about. It's his car and he can have you do what he wants. However, if that is a true Bench Mark/ Survivor it shouldn't be touched. " Their only original once" and your restoring it will ruin it.
New Blue Survivor
Hey there Junior,
I think the rarity of the model would factor in the decision. I personally would think twice about messing with 427/435 or such. As far as I can see, there's nothing particularly rare or uber special about this one.
That being said, I'm on the fence about tossing an original chevy part in favor of a repro part.
But I don't own one yet, so it's hard to say.
Take care,
Dan
I was a Corvette club Vice president for many years. my feeling is What you do is a great thing, makes it better safer, and more fun. I love a nice restored car they need to be driven and enjoyed.
I wish I could afford you guys.
I’m not down with restoring this car. There are plenty of cars which need that. This one should be left as is, in my opinion.
Do you do all your own editing and production work etc. The videos are very well done.
PLEASE, MORE C3 CORVETTES.LOL
Do your thing.👍
Ouch! It would be a crime to restore it.
Hey Junior, really enjoy your videos.
I have been involved with Corvettes since 1969. When I purchase one I do with it as I want to get the most enjoyable experience for me.
As others have stated there is a place for the NCRS cars.
I really like the way you improve your builds as I would say the way GM should have built them in the first place.
Your builds are stunning and I know your customers will enjoy them for .any years to come.
God bless, Jerry
Maybe that society should find and buy these cars as well. Then they can do or not do anything they want with theirs. Your work looks great and you are doing a lot for preservation.
Foam car is easy, that’s a “Nerf Vette”.
NCRS should develop a separate, but equal, category for C2/C3 cars that are judged in the same manner the existing Top Flight requirements stipulate, except relaxed regarding exact dating of factory and NOS parts/components. In addition, the new category would allow any factory option that 'could have' been ordered from the factory to be on the car. For example, a C2 with a 427/435 HP engine could not be equipped with AC as that was not a factory allowed configuration.
I believe this would encourage increased participation in NCRS Flight judging and other activities. I'm not suggesting any changes to the existing NCRS rules for those who want to have their C2/C3 cars judged against the strict, as built at the factory rules. But with no existing factory, 'as built' records for C2/C3 cars, unless an owner has the original documents (which is in a very low percentage of cases...and tank stickers are typically partially or non-legible or non-existent), it is commonly thought that many C2/C3 cars are being represented as 'as built' at the factory cars, when they are not/likely are not.
So why not take away the incentive to cheat and replace it with a judging category that encourages participation but also rewards restoration to the same factory configuration we 'could have' ordered? NCRS should add a Top Flight category for such C2/C3 cars and perhaps title it "Factory Configured". If any NCRS higher up would like some additional thoughts I have on this idea, please reach out. wayne.mackie@comcast.net
They have this now. It’s called Concours judging.
The car interior has been touched so the benchmark is out the window. But have to blame the owner. There is a place for benchmark cars-museum pieces. If the owner wanted a driver; whether numbers matching or not, he should have purchased one instead of a benchmark. Pass on the benchmark car and leave if for someone else to preserve it. Buy a driver in less than ideal condition, save some money and have Horsepower Warehouse go to town on it.
I would want one of your restorations
I would perform the restoration. I wouldn't feel safe driving around in a car with 60 yr old components. Plus safety features barely existed in the 60's.
JR, it's only "ORIGINAL" once. I understand that your builds are an upgrade but if this were my car I would keep it the way it is... just my opinion.
In 1980 I bought a 1970 442 Convertible in Matador Red and 110K original miles! It had been hot rodded a bit but paint was decent, interior very nice and when you stomped on the gas it smoked a bit. Anyhow for the first two years I just drove it and enjoyed it. I did some smoky burnouts on occasion and was the typical young man with a cool car. So to make a long story short it got some quarter panel damage in a small accident so I decided to blow the car apart and not only make it like new but better than new. It was apart for 2 years because that's how long it took for me to do it in my spare time and as the money came in. The engine was built to get more horsepower than original! The Matador Red seemed like an old dated color so I went with a Chrysler Garnet Red two stage Miracril paint. I added a W30 wing. When it was done it looked better than original and ran better too so I was very happy with the results. Back then basically all my friends were trying to make their muscle cars cooler than they were before so a lot of mods were done. So if that is what you want or in this case the customer I would say no harm no foul!
should have bought a coupe
At the time they were built, gm didn't do anything extra as is being done now to preserve them. No powder coating, etc. They were everyday cars to drive, often a person's only car, and GM only wanted them to last 6 or 8 years so you could buy another one. Make them cheap and reap the profits. 75 to 80 year olds know what I mean. They depreciated so fast, people had 24 month loans so they didn't owe more than it was worth. Years later, people began to save them, but they're 65 years old now. Remember when 78 pacecars came out and dealers charging 50k? Now theyre everywhere with factory wrappers with low prices. Old guys, like me, like to see them saved, but people that weren't born yet are ok with mods or restoration. If the owner doesn't get it upgraded by you, he will pull it and take it where he can get what he wants, so you might as well do it. Judged cars are judged by people that were conceived in them and don't always agree how they should be. A 65 factory tour by my brother discovered that if they ran out of bolts, there was a hardware store across the street and they would buy them there. Then judges look at untouched cars and say things have been changed! Sorry it's so long, I'm 71 and now have the '65 my 81 year old brother ordered. So I have seen the days when most were driven, some saved, and a lot of them wrecked because you really could buy C2's for 500-700 bucks at one time. No disrespect Intended and hope none taken. Just reviewing my experience. Remember "save the wave" and Corvette News?
HIS CAR , PERIOD !
In watching a few of your videos, and this one today, it seems like there is a measurable amount of hesitation, since you're asking us! So to settle your conscience, why don't you put it up for sale, at a nice high right price. Let the market then decide if it should be restored or preserved. My bet is someone will pay top dollar for the way it is now. Seems to throw money away to spend 50 or a hundred grand or whatever you're going to charge, and it won't make the car really worth that much more. But if this was the guy's dad's car or something like that, and he's got the extra Dinero, and all other boxes above have been checked, then you are free to play rector set with it.
Disagree. Why tamper with something that age which has the good look and originality? To spend 50 to 100 k just to improve a few imperfections seems ridiculous to me. Leave it alone and let a purist enjoy as is. Too many restored cars that look fake. By the way, I deplore resto mods- they really ruin classic car heritage. Terry S. NCRS.
Well said Terry. I agree 100%. I have a 67 Bloomington Survivor which also Top Flighted with the driver miles at Regional and National levels.
This would be enough for me to pass on purchasing this car. There was no doubt a premium placed on it for the awards and certifications which force you to maintain the car as is if you want to retain the value. I respect what Bloomington has done for the hobby and the Corvette in general. However, too much of anything can and will eventually be a negative. It's a rolling piece of art. Make it as reliable and safe as possible and enjoy it. If that means a frame off with other than factory finishing's, so be it. Car should be called the Bloomington Blues
As I have said before…….if I had the money……..66 coupe, 5 or 6 speed manual, fiber springs , powder coat frame ( and other parts) , small block with Holley sniper fuel injection, stainless brake components….basically the new stuff that makes it a nice drive. I would keep the exterior and the interior as close to original because I like the look. No garage queen for me. .
Junior I agree with you %100. Take pictures of it and document it then have at it. Put all of your special touches on it and give the customer what they want. Let the Bloomington snobs do whatever with their own cars. I think you are doing a fantastic job preserving these wonderful cars for future generations. When I get to old to drive mine any more I will most likely be bringing it to you for my next generation to enjoy. Keep up the good work.
I prefer a restored car especially one that has been done to the high standards of your shop any day !
The color blue looks like robin egg it looks beautiful black interior most definitely it would be nice to see this with a black convertible top and the hardtop done in black as well maybe even vinyl Yes & No. I would have it restored to a a original but I would upgrade it as well just like you are talking about especially in the engine bay I think are there upgrade the engine that is in there by pulling maybe a turbo on it to make it look like it's got some power or I would put something bigger in there Iike a " 427 big block" too sweet too cool I like this ride but I also like the blue C3 white top convertible that's sweet looking
It's the same reason they have chocolate and Vanilla ice cream. Different strokes for different folks. My opinion: Restoration is great.
It come down to what the owner want...simple
His car, he can restomod it or build it like a gasser if he wants. I would leave it and it's provenance as is.
Call it BS
Ausum
it is only a car , there are a lot of them on the road , a huge number of them have been molested by their owners , personally I appreciate something clean reliable and unmolested , the thing about matching numbers and that is for investors , who don't appreciate the car for what it really is , but what it can return to them in a retail profit later down the road. , but every one to their own I suppose
Leave it. Alone its true survivor repeat 427 are worth big money. Leave it under lock and key i have ared split window with 40.000 original miles priceless im a collector i have cars with low mileage all true survivors hope this helps you take care
Eye of the Tiger for your name, Survivor sang it.
Your shop is a delight to the eyes in the horrors the world is heading to. I actually intend on visiting to purchase a classic Vette , however i must comment the Caveman beard you have grown looks F__ kin RIDICULOUS !!! Do you really live in the woods....? Or tryin to prove......what ? Shame, surrounded by such beauty !!
@@johneismark190 corvettes not enough for you ... you have to add personal attacks on the guy bringing you the great content? That's pretty uncalledfor.
If your customer wants a more reliable car that's his decision it's a different generation in the classic car market look at all the classic car Auctions they have something for everyone I agree with your comments can't make everyone happy love the channel
@@MrTexasDan And he replied to my comment vs posting a new comment. Who is the mountain man? lol
Blue Maria
Do the fuck what you want with it .Don't be dictated to.
It's the customers car. Put flares on it and a mod 70's air brushed dragon on the hood if he wants. Nobody from NCRS will come to his house and arrest him.
Lets call it Getter Done !!
Restore the car if that what the owner wants. However it's mentality like yours why we have no original cars cars left in the hobby. All the restorers think they can build the car better than the factory and maybe they can. But once you restore this car it joins all the other classic cars that have been restored. Which makes it nothing special.
Styrofoam!
you should restore the car
Go for it make a the better car that it is
Also, Junior- you gotta trim the beard, dude. You’re a decent looking guy but that beard looks really scraggly. C’mon man.
If its been partially restored inside and part of the paint been touched up. Then its no longer a survivor to me - restore it.
Junior give it your special restoration and make it a better car. Your way will preserve the car far longer than leaving it untouched.
No offense, but if you're going to tell me not to restore my car, I had BETTER see your name on my car's title. If not, tough luck. Go reference the National Corvette Museum for your benchmark. Meanwhile you don't own my money or my property. Suck it purists.
Upgrade me !
Restore the Benchmark!