most parents raise their children best they can and hope they move on to live their own lives married or not......Miss Ellie was the type woman who loved her family so much she couldn't cut the apron strings waiting her children at home forever.
You just don't get television like this anymore. The other thing Dallas/ Knots did was classic scenes with no dialogue at all. When the Fishers went to visit Valene's twins for the last time in front of her house. Not a word of dialogue... but raw emotion and pure gold!
Yes, they sure don't make classic TV shows like that anymore. In fact, when Dallas and Knots Landing ended so did the era of classic TV shows. Furthermore, when those two shows ended I seldom watched television because it wasn't even worth switching the set on because all that the only thing to watch were-and still are brain-dead comedies and BS programs. RIP Dallas 1978-1991 and RIP Knots Landing 1979-1993
The Takapa story was, as I recall, originally supposed to go much longer but they wrapped it up quickly because Jim Davis's health was failing fast. They needed a way to wrap it up while he could still perform as well as he did; he struggled mightily, but he kept it up as long as he could do it, and then they sent Jock and Miss Ellie to Europe. I do love how Miss Ellie accepted and embraced Ray; by the latter seasons, he was as much a son to her as her own. Ray loved Southfork and had always been such a strong and steady presence in her life, and he reminded Miss Ellie of Jock in so many ways. Plus he was always there when he needed her.
Ray first came to work on Southfork ranch as a teenage orphan after his mother died. They said that in the first season. So Miss Ellie had been somewhat of a mother figure all those years.
@@PungiFungi He didn't know at the time that Lucy was his niece; if you recall, the first season was meant to be a six-part miniseries, and Ray being an Ewing was not in the cards. Everyone was surprised to find out Dallas was successful and became a series. And different writers made the decision to make Ray an Ewing, retconning the Ray-Lucy romance. It was what it was.
Despite his flaws, at least Ray has a heart and, though he could never ever replace Gary (who is also an extraordinary character in and outside Dallas), he has a Ewing connection well-deserved. Kudos to you both, Ray and Gary.
The scene itself is bittersweet. It would be just a sweet scene because of the reconciliation and Miss Ellie accepting Ray as one of her own sons. But it's bitter because Jim Davis is ravaged with cancer in this scene and was barely able to function at this point. It's incredible how he was able to still be Jock to the end.
You can look at him and tell that the chemo is making his face swell up. I wish he could have continued on the show for another 10-12 years. The only actor that I can think of that could have taken his place would have been Lorne Green.
@@rockyracoon3233 I’ve heard they considered James Arness. I think he could have pulled it off but it would have been hard to accept anyone else as Jock. In addition to that, Arness had played Matt Dillon for twenty years. I don’t know if the audience would have easily accepted him as Jock.
Donna Reed gave it here best shot at it. The audience would not accept any female recast in the role of Ellie. I do think that Martha Stewart, of all people, had both the looks and personality to maybe do a recast justice. I say that with no disrespect to BBG.
Absolutely! They wanted the Late Phil Carey (Ex-Asa Buchanan) from One Life To Life to play him but he said no. John Bolger Tanked as Phillip Spaulding on Guiding Light but became successful on Another World and One Life To Live. His Uncle played The Scarecrow in The Wizard Of Oz.
Another one was Dennis Parlato who from 1997-1997 replaced Michael Zaslow as Roger Thorpe on Guiding Light but the fans didn't accept him. He came on after Michael got fired for having ALS.
Jock favoured JR and Bobby while Miss Ellie favoured Gary, but they did love their children, Miss Ellie was devastated at the thought of JR leaving Dallas forever in the dream season and while it may have been Pam’s dream I still believe it would be her reaction to him going,
Miss Ellie and Ray, even though they were step mother and step son, were actually very close later on in this show. I think the writers sort of took Ray's character in the same direction that they would have if Gary had been a permanent character on Dallas.
Steve Kanaly and Barbara Bel Geddes should have won Emmys for this Scene. Yet you saw a lot of Baggage being dealt with. Miss Ellie with some justification resented Ray because he was Jock's Son from an Affair. Maybe she felt that she wasn't enough for him. Also, keep in mind that maybe in Ray Miss Ellie saw a Strength that Gary didn't have. I think that part of the reason why Ray was wiling to give up the trust was because he may have felt that he had to make amends. When Gary #1 then played by David Ackroyd and Ray showed him The Books for Southfork, Gary wasn't interested. That alone showed you that he wasn't ready to take on any responsibility. Also, Ray may have been worried that Gary would take his job away from him and remember Ray did more for Southfork than Gary ever did, so in some ways he was just as much a Southworth because he too loved the land. Also, Ray didn't show any resentment that he didn't grow up with the perks of being a Ewing that Bobby, JR and Gary had although he squandered it.
Very good analysis. I agree that both of them are excellent in this scene. I don't remember ANY scene where Bel Geddes wasn't great. I think it would have been interesting just to watch her read a phone book.
@@kimberlywhitehead22 It was a Lady named Margaret Hunter who served in WW II along with Jock in Europe. She was a Nurse. Miss Ellie may have been hurt but she knew she had no right since she used Jock to hold on To The Southfork. Jock only found out when the Man that Ray thought was his "Daddy" showed Jock a Diary that Margaret had.
Not quite true He does appear for a few seconds in the beginning of the next episode At that stage jim Davies could not even walk or talk properly. He was seen sitting in car and his one line was dubbed over . But yes this is his last proper full speaking scene
I just watched this today...I'm streaming and this was the 2nd to the last show Jim Davis did and the one after he was just shown for a couple of minutes sitting in back of a limo. So sad. Now I'm almost the age he died and I'm watching these old shows that I used to never miss and so many of the actors are gone. Time flies fast. So much time wasted on bad times. So I'm glad I looked up Dallas again. I don't think though I'll get through all of the shows. Too many and I've got things to do
When Jock asks, “Does that include me too?” it would’ve been refreshing to have Ellie reply, “No, you get the hell out of here!” Then, before he recovers, she pulls him in for a hug and they all laugh while drying their tears. After 40 years of marriage, she would’ve been comfortable enough with Jock to answer his stupid question that way, making a sweet moment even sweeter. Plus, it would’ve shown Ellie had a sense of humor instead of just being a comfort or a scold, the only two modes the writers seemed to have for her.
One thing you should note about this scene. If you rewatch it you will note Jim Davis is only seen with Barbara Bel Geddes for a split second in this entire sequence--- otherwise it is just upclose shots of him when he speaks--- There isn't even an embrace between Jim Davis and Barbara Bel Geddes... why? Well Jim Davis was very ill when this was filmed- he would die months later of Cancer. They filmed his shots and edited them in- he was having a very hard time with his lines by then and his stamina was not good--- I would say that explains the "coldness" between the two even at the end without any embrace... just a thought... Barbara's master shots were probably filmed with a standin or maybe even nothing in front of her as she delivered her lines to "Jock"... this wrap up of the Takapa fallout and "Jock and Miss Ellie's" rift was wrapped quickly into a happy place because they knew Jim Davis was dying and in all likelihood not live to see the next season.
@@jasongilmore8595 not true. They were all in the same room when filming. The technology you are talking about didn’t exist when this was filmed, February 1981.
you can tell just how sick Jim Davis is after this episode or the next one we see him in the limo taking Miss Ellie on a Second Honeymoon. and that was the last time we see Jim Davis. soon after he passed away.
The funny thing is Ellie did accept Ray as family and later on in the series Ray was more of a son than Bobby and JR were. During the fight for Ewing Oil, he stood by her as both of her other sons were blinded by power of control of the company. He really did love Miss Ellie.
Yes and his Son Ethan played Stephen Logan Jr., aka "Storm" #1 on The Bold & The Beautiful and in future years Patrick Duffy would play Stephen Logan Sr. He also guest starred on The Fosters produced by Jennifer Lopez's Production Company.
I enjoyed the sweet relationship Ray and Miss Ellie developed. Ray was a decent man in willing to give up his birthright and leave to not come in between Jock and Ellie.
I honestly do not think Jim Davis, if was live back in 1991, would have been happy the way his beloved show turned out in the end. He would have been outraged.
You're right. They probably went on three years too long. The writing really started to suffer in the mid-80s. That's the main reason Victoria Principal left.
Jim Davis for an actor had no responsibility to oversee what would go on the show if he had remained living longer basically glad of getting steady work in what got to become one of the biggest primetime television hits ever. Larry Hagman of course eventually took charge with most of the going on's on the set after J.R. took over the show in character.
Barbara Bel Geddes as Miss Ellie was one of the great casting choices. I remember as a kid when Barbara appeared in Campbell’s Soup commercials in the 80s, I was like, “It’s the lady from Dallas!”
Of course, Dallas had to go on without Jim Davis, though everybody loved him so much, however, it was Barbara Bel Geddes's show and she had to look after the younger people to become "another family," to the kids, something she was very good at, who asked them to treat them with respect (without talking schmack, to each other), and (of course), it was also Larry Hagman's, too, because he was a dedicated hard worker (and a darn, good drinker both on- and off-camera) and got involved with every aspect of the script, who became a 'surrogate father' to the younger, newer actors, who came by year, after year, in all of the 13 1/2 seasons. RIP Jim Davis, Barbara Bel Geddes & Larry Hagman.
Glad they did not recast out of respect to Jim Davis. But if it had come down to it, Steve Forrest would have made a great Jock Ewing, Wes Parmalee not withstanding.
Yes, they wanted the Late Phil Carey who played Asa Buchanan on One Life To Live for 30 Years on ABC. it was a very smart move because Phil Carey would also die of Cancer.
It also reminded me of when Michael Zaslow (Ex Roger Thorpe Guiding Light had Lou Gherig's Disease and nobody knew about it at the time. He had such a hard time with his dialogue and folks thought it was Lyme Disease or a Stroke. Another one was James Mitchell (Ex-Palmer Cortlandt) on All My Children who was frail before he died and even when Phil Carey (who was considered for the Role of Clayton farlow who played Asa Buchanan on One Life To Live from 1979 to 2007) who died of Lung Cancer. In Europe The Tates on The UK Soap Opera Emmerdale 1972-Present were a fabulously wealthy Family who although didn't have the dysfunction of The Ewings bought Glamour to The Farming Community. Sadly enough Leah Bracknell who played Zoe Tate from 1989-2005 died last Month of Lung Cancer.
Ms. Ellie is a very good Woman. And is very caring and forgiving. Bobby has a lot of that in him. This shows how willing she is to admit her faults. And accept Ray as a member of her family.
I could never figure out why Miss Ellie never took a trip out to Knots Landing, California, to visit her favorite son? She could certainly afford it. She could spare the time, too. And she was up to traveling, as she did with Clayton in later seasons of Dallas.
Whenever two people have a love for each other that is eternal, they WILL find a way to work things out and be together, no matter what. No ocean is too deep. No mountain is too high. No desert is too hot, no road is too long. And that's all I've got to say.
I think that if Gary was around more Lucy wouldn't. She was like a substitution for Gary. She was there for the younger generation her age group of fans.
Gary wasn't able to measure up to the rest of the family standards while better off on his own to eventually find his footing on Knots Landing in becoming his own man.
Miss Ellie was the one who bought Gary and Valene their house in Knots Landing for a wedding present. She should have Known that Gary and J.R. couldn't ever live under The same roof again Valene certainly didn't.
My sister was her post master in NEH, Maine. When she came to post office in this very small town ,often another customer would approach her and say "Oh, I loved you on Dallas." My sister says she would reply "Oh, that silly thing" inferring that she considered her work on Dallas as trivial compared to her other work.
@@jasongilmore8595 yes, her raise request being turned down was the REAL reason she left the show in 1984. After she left DALLAS for the second time, in 1990, she lost most of her $$ from bad business investments.
Gary's not coming back because he's too involved in all that craziness with those nosy neighbors on Seaview Circle. Why return to Southfork when you have Mack and Karen grilling over the back fence or Abby flirting from her driveway?
I know she's just playing the part of the character. And that this is a TV show. However I felt the same way she did when my brother left home. He said he was never coming back. He's been dead now for over 20 years. I miss him very much.
Yes. Phil Carey (Ex-Asa Buchanan) One Life To Live was once considered for the Role of Jock Ewing after Jim Davis died but he said no. He didn't want to leave New York for Los Angeles. Also, because he played a Millionaire from Texas he was similar to Jock but his relationships with his Sons Beaufort aka "Bo" and Clinton aka "Clint" wasn't as challenging.
This was Jim Davis's second-to-last appearance, and it was also the year after Ted Shackelford left to do "Knots Landing," with Joan Van Ark, that his character wasn't really coming back to live with Miss Ellie, Jock & The Ewing Boys in "Dallas," when he was living with Val, near The Fairgates, The Averys, The Wards & wicked, wicked Abby Cunningham, all in California.
Just a few observations: Ray matured into a good man; of all the actors and actresses on the show, I think Barbara Bel Geddes may have been the most talented; CBS hit a home run...no parts have ever been better played than Jim Davis as Jock and Larry Hagman as JR; Gary was a deadbeat; Donna was the best-looking wife on the show.
@@rahlohmcdonogh280 , JR may have intimidated Gary but he had his reasons JR was selfish he wanted Ewing Oil all to himself he never wanted to share the company with Bobby and Gary. Dispite that being Jock's wishes as we found out during the reading of his Will...before he thought up the contest.
It tells you of his love for the show / the way that he carried himself as an actor and a man. Most people who know that they only had weeks (days?) to live, wouldn't be coming into work. If you read Dallas history, you will find that he barely could stand in that limo scene and that all sorts of editing had to be done, just to make it believable.
Gary left because of that evil Jr Gary didn't have the strength to stand up to him like Ray and Bobby all I can say right with a hell of a man you didn't care about money
At the heart of DALLAS wasn't family, it was the passion between Jock and Ellie, which started an empire. All the stories always came down to them. Everything was outside their inner circle. When Jock passed, the show lost that. He haunted the story for years to come, but the real DALLAS truly ended when Jock and Ellie could no longer bring the story back to them.
I never liked the way they closed out her character, giving up Southfork and never coming back. Instead off to Europe with Ray, Jenna, Clayton, Lucy, Sue Ellen and John Ross all who moved to Europe before her. All those Texas ranch folks in Europe?
Jim Davis was one tough son of a bitch, he was loaded with brain cancer during these scenes, and you could tell he was really struggling. But like the pro he always was he got through it the best he could. Friend of mine who worked on the Dallas set told me that Davis was the most focused actor on the show, he would remember his lines after reading the script once. This final scene with BBG seemed more like a real goodbye than just a scene on television.
I appreciate Ray wanting to keep Miss Ellie and Jock from divorcing, but damn. I don't think I could physically make myself sign any legal document that would give away my claim to the Ewing money. lol....I would have said, "Jock made me part of the trust fund, if you don't like it Miss Ellie, that's just too damn bad. " Ray better be glad that Miss Ellie didn't call his bluff on that one. lol.....
She never understood that if you’ve done your job as a parent then your kids can stand on their own 2 feet and move out to their own lives. They could each build their own houses on Southfork like Ray did. Like the Kennedy’s did on their “compound” in Massachusetts
@@twc8356 it seems to me that in the first episodes of the show, Jr pretends to want to show Pamela around the house after the new bride (Pam) arrives at the ranch. They come out of the house and take a few steps, then Jr shows a small house or rather a kind of outhouse and tells her that it is his as well as that of sue-ellen. He says it's small but they have two bedrooms (the second is for the future nursery in case of Sue-Ellen's pregnancy). However, Jr and Sue Ellen appear to be living at the ranch. During the visit, Pam also sees another small house then Jr explains to her that it was Gary's house during his marriage to Valene. Then, we never saw these small houses on the screen again and nobody lives there so I wonder if these two houses were not demolished. Although these houses were really too close to the main house, it was a good opportunity for the sons to have their own independence. Unfortunately, Bobby and JR are so used to having dinner together as Jock had decided, that they all stay under the same roof despite all the conflicts Lol. I think Ray acted differently because he had never lived at the ranch before so he was used to enjoying his independence. Finally, maybe he wanted to live in peace with Donna, without having to put up with JR every day.
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What a decent thing Ray did ! Moral courage and integrity . ❤
The look on Miss Ellie's face when she finally realizes that Gary is not coming back to Southfork was amazing.
Great acting.
Yes she was
most parents raise their children best they can and hope they move on to live their own lives married or not......Miss Ellie was the type woman who loved her family so much she couldn't cut the apron strings waiting her children at home forever.
Reading cue cards
The best woman a man could ever have...Miss Ellie. R.I.P. Miss Barbara...
You just don't get television like this anymore. The other thing Dallas/ Knots did was classic scenes with no dialogue at all. When the Fishers went to visit Valene's twins for the last time in front of her house. Not a word of dialogue... but raw emotion and pure gold!
Oh yeah - that scene with the Fishers is heartbreaking.
Plus, it was Free.
Yes, they sure don't make classic TV shows like that anymore. In fact, when Dallas and Knots Landing ended so did the era of classic TV shows.
Furthermore, when those two shows ended I seldom watched television because it wasn't even worth switching the set on because all that the only thing to watch were-and still are brain-dead comedies and BS programs.
RIP Dallas 1978-1991 and RIP Knots Landing 1979-1993
Oh My God, Barbara Bel Geddes could play a SCENE!!
I'm over here like ,damn Miss Ellie 😭
She’s one of those actors that could produce real tears at the drop of a hat!
Yes!!
Exactly- she is so great
The Takapa story was, as I recall, originally supposed to go much longer but they wrapped it up quickly because Jim Davis's health was failing fast. They needed a way to wrap it up while he could still perform as well as he did; he struggled mightily, but he kept it up as long as he could do it, and then they sent Jock and Miss Ellie to Europe. I do love how Miss Ellie accepted and embraced Ray; by the latter seasons, he was as much a son to her as her own. Ray loved Southfork and had always been such a strong and steady presence in her life, and he reminded Miss Ellie of Jock in so many ways. Plus he was always there when he needed her.
I liked how Miss Ellie considered Ray her son!
@Draper Scott that's true but you can love someone and think of them as a son or daughter even if they are not your child.
@@patrickperalta59 true
Back in the day when you looked forward to next Friday to see what would happen in this classic drama. Very classy actors and awesome story lines
Our weekend did not start UNTIL we watched "Dallas".
Miss Ellie accepted Ray as one of her own sons, even after he offered to give up his share of the trust fund. She really did care about him.
The ironic thing was that Ray was very much like Gary.
@@rockyracoon3233 Ray was never a drunk
@@zt1053. Ray did some boozing though.
@@rockyracoon3233He was. Another self righteous loser
Ray first came to work on Southfork ranch as a teenage orphan after his mother died. They said that in the first season. So Miss Ellie had been somewhat of a mother figure all those years.
And he helped himself to her grand daughter, talk about gratitude.
@@PungiFungi His own niece, ew!
Wasn't he sleeping with (underage) Lucy?
@@PungiFungi He didn't know at the time that Lucy was his niece; if you recall, the first season was meant to be a six-part miniseries, and Ray being an Ewing was not in the cards. Everyone was surprised to find out Dallas was successful and became a series. And different writers made the decision to make Ray an Ewing, retconning the Ray-Lucy romance. It was what it was.
@@PungiFungiPlus SueEllen.
Despite his flaws, at least Ray has a heart and, though he could never ever replace Gary (who is also an extraordinary character in and outside Dallas), he has a Ewing connection well-deserved. Kudos to you both, Ray and Gary.
Oddly, Gary and Ray were a lot alike.
@@rockyracoon3233 . Yes, very ironic.
@@ritamartinez9211 . True.
Barbara was truly amazing in this scene!
The scene itself is bittersweet. It would be just a sweet scene because of the reconciliation and Miss Ellie accepting Ray as one of her own sons. But it's bitter because Jim Davis is ravaged with cancer in this scene and was barely able to function at this point. It's incredible how he was able to still be Jock to the end.
You can look at him and tell that the chemo is making his face swell up. I wish he could have continued on the show for another 10-12 years. The only actor that I can think of that could have taken his place would have been Lorne Green.
It’s truly heartbreaking.
You can tell he’s not well at all.
I miss this show ,on regular TV! Jim Davis---heartstrings !
I remember when this season was airing and my mother saying "Something is wrong with Jock he looks sick".
JFC... stop the gossip about the man's health.
Love the videos of Dallas, especially the ones With Jock in them. Show was never as good after he passed. thanks!
Yes it was..... They should have kept the character alive and recast him after a hiatus of sorts.
SAL Paradise Hard part to re-cast. Buddy Ebsen could have pulled it off though.
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Agreed by 1982 it wasn't the same
@@rockyracoon3233 I’ve heard they considered James Arness. I think he could have pulled it off but it would have been hard to accept anyone else as Jock. In addition to that, Arness had played Matt Dillon for twenty years. I don’t know if the audience would have easily accepted him as Jock.
no wonder my mom loved this show! great actors/scenes, storylines, etc.
Bless Ms Ellie. She was a kind soul
Jim Davis will ALWAYS be Jock and Barbara Bel Geddess will ALWAYS be Miss Ellie, there is no way you can substitute either one for these roles
They tried it with Donna Reed and she sucked. They were right to fire her.
Donna Reed gave it here best shot at it. The audience would not accept any female recast in the role of Ellie. I do think that Martha Stewart, of all people, had both the looks and personality to maybe do a recast justice. I say that with no disrespect to BBG.
Absolutely! They wanted the Late Phil Carey (Ex-Asa Buchanan) from One Life To Life to play him but he said no. John Bolger Tanked as Phillip Spaulding on Guiding Light but became successful on Another World and One Life To Live. His Uncle played The Scarecrow in The Wizard Of Oz.
Another one was Dennis Parlato who from 1997-1997 replaced Michael Zaslow as Roger Thorpe on Guiding Light but the fans didn't accept him. He came on after Michael got fired for having ALS.
Darren Crispin this was Dallas and the Ewing's good family
The best soap opera of all time with amazing acting as well.
Ellie and Jock were such great parents, and everything. They sure loved their children, no matter what they did, and that includes JR.
Jock favoured JR and Bobby while Miss Ellie favoured Gary, but they did love their children, Miss Ellie was devastated at the thought of JR leaving Dallas forever in the dream season and while it may have been Pam’s dream I still believe it would be her reaction to him going,
They sucked as parents
Toxic family
Miss Ellie and Ray, even though they were step mother and step son, were actually very close later on in this show. I think the writers sort of took Ray's character in the same direction that they would have if Gary had been a permanent character on Dallas.
Steve Kanaly and Barbara Bel Geddes should have won Emmys for this Scene. Yet you saw a lot of Baggage being dealt with. Miss Ellie with some justification resented Ray because he was Jock's Son from an Affair. Maybe she felt that she wasn't enough for him. Also, keep in mind that maybe in Ray Miss Ellie saw a Strength that Gary didn't have. I think that part of the reason why Ray was wiling to give up the trust was because he may have felt that he had to make amends. When Gary #1 then played by David Ackroyd and Ray showed him The Books for Southfork, Gary wasn't interested. That alone showed you that he wasn't ready to take on any responsibility. Also, Ray may have been worried that Gary would take his job away from him and remember Ray did more for Southfork than Gary ever did, so in some ways he was just as much a Southworth because he too loved the land. Also, Ray didn't show any resentment that he didn't grow up with the perks of being a Ewing that Bobby, JR and Gary had although he squandered it.
Truth
Very good analysis. I agree that both of them are excellent in this scene. I don't remember ANY scene where Bel Geddes wasn't great. I think it would have been interesting just to watch her read a phone book.
But was ray a product of an affair when jock was married to Amanda or miss ellie
@@kimberlywhitehead22 It was a Lady named Margaret Hunter who served in WW II along with Jock in Europe. She was a Nurse. Miss Ellie may have been hurt but she knew she had no right since she used Jock to hold on To The Southfork. Jock only found out when the Man that Ray thought was his "Daddy" showed Jock a Diary that Margaret had.
Barbara Bel Geddes did win an EMMY lol she’s the only one from the series who did
It’s hard to watch this scene knowing that this turned out to be the last episode Jim Davis appeared on Dallas. RIP Mr Ewing😥😥😥😥
Not quite true He does appear for a few seconds in the beginning of the next episode At that stage jim Davies could not even walk or talk properly. He was seen sitting in car and his one line was dubbed over . But yes this is his last proper full speaking scene
@@donnn-ow4rj Gossips... Karens...
@@billhosko7723???
@Doc D the man was a true professional working pretty much too the end
Much respect may he RIP
There is only one Miss Ellie
Donna Reed filled in for Barbara, do to the fact Barbara Bel Geddes had taken ill.
Great actors.. Jock and Ellie...man, I miss this program...greatness and heart in every episode!
never was the same show after Jock died.
So true!!
I don't think the producers, the cast or Hagman himself knew how much Dallas lost when Jim Davis died.
Yes it was... had plenty of good years.
It lost so much of it's Pizazz. I loved The Business Scenes and The Cocktail Hour where they don't talk business at the dinner table.
Jock looks really sick here. Jock was the best.
Sick or not , he still has all his hair , for a man of his age that is rare .
@@patrickball2493 Sorry to say he is wearing a wig. Loved this actor and the character he played.
@@patrickball2493 yeah hun that was a wig.
@@patrickball2493 he’s wearing a wig here, but yes, until he got sick in the fall of 1980, he had a thick head of hair. He was 71 here
Gary was driven away, but it was because JR. Ray had nothing to do with it.
I just watched this today...I'm streaming and this was the 2nd to the last show Jim Davis did and the one after he was just shown for a couple of minutes sitting in back of a limo. So sad. Now I'm almost the age he died and I'm watching these old shows that I used to never miss and so many of the actors are gone. Time flies fast. So much time wasted on bad times. So I'm glad I looked up Dallas again. I don't think though I'll get through all of the shows. Too many and I've got things to do
RIP Jim Davis
Miss Ellie and Jock were powerful parents raise 4 son's Ray was included
And Miss Nellie and Jr Ewing sadly gone now too RIP
MISSYou'Jim Davis
RIP Barbara Bel Geddes
When Jock asks, “Does that include me too?” it would’ve been refreshing to have Ellie reply, “No, you get the hell out of here!” Then, before he recovers, she pulls him in for a hug and they all laugh while drying their tears. After 40 years of marriage, she would’ve been comfortable enough with Jock to answer his stupid question that way, making a sweet moment even sweeter. Plus, it would’ve shown Ellie had a sense of humor instead of just being a comfort or a scold, the only two modes the writers seemed to have for her.
Didn’t the Takapa deal start all that trouble with Jock and Ellie?
One thing you should note about this scene. If you rewatch it you will note Jim Davis is only seen with Barbara Bel Geddes for a split second in this entire sequence--- otherwise it is just upclose shots of him when he speaks--- There isn't even an embrace between Jim Davis and Barbara Bel Geddes... why? Well Jim Davis was very ill when this was filmed- he would die months later of Cancer. They filmed his shots and edited them in- he was having a very hard time with his lines by then and his stamina was not good--- I would say that explains the "coldness" between the two even at the end without any embrace... just a thought... Barbara's master shots were probably filmed with a standin or maybe even nothing in front of her as she delivered her lines to "Jock"... this wrap up of the Takapa fallout and "Jock and Miss Ellie's" rift was wrapped quickly into a happy place because they knew Jim Davis was dying and in all likelihood not live to see the next season.
@@jasongilmore8595 Thank you for responding. I didn't know any of this.
@@jasongilmore8595 not true. They were all in the same room when filming. The technology you are talking about didn’t exist when this was filmed, February 1981.
@@keeblergraham211 it’s not correct. They were all in the same room, when filming.
you can tell just how sick Jim Davis is after this episode or the next one we see him in the limo taking Miss Ellie on a Second Honeymoon. and that was the last time we see Jim Davis. soon after he passed away.
I’ve heard that he had to do that final scene in the limo seated because he was so ill.
Thanks Karen... no one knew...
Love this scene!
The funny thing is Ellie did accept Ray as family and later on in the series Ray was more of a son than Bobby and JR were. During the fight for Ewing Oil, he stood by her as both of her other sons were blinded by power of control of the company. He really did love Miss Ellie.
Jim Davis was a great friend of John Wayne.
Not to mention he appeared in a lot of John Wayne's films as well.
Jim Davidson and Barbara Ball Gedhes were incredible actors
Yes and his Son Ethan played Stephen Logan Jr., aka "Storm" #1 on The Bold & The Beautiful and in future years Patrick Duffy would play Stephen Logan Sr. He also guest starred on The Fosters produced by Jennifer Lopez's Production Company.
@@chriswainwright185 Davis
@@chriswainwright185 who is Jim Davidson ?
I enjoyed the sweet relationship Ray and Miss Ellie developed. Ray was a decent man in willing to give up his birthright and leave to not come in between Jock and Ellie.
Jim Davis was a man’s man, the best character on this show. Great acting talent!!!
RIP Jim Davis.....
I honestly do not think Jim Davis, if was live back in 1991, would have been happy the way his beloved show turned out in the end. He would have been outraged.
Jason Gibson I agree
You're right. They probably went on three years too long. The writing really started to suffer in the mid-80s. That's the main reason Victoria Principal left.
I like every season and wanted it to go on and on and on
Jim Davis for an actor had no responsibility to oversee what would go on the show if he had remained living longer basically glad of getting steady work in what got to become one of the biggest primetime television hits ever. Larry Hagman of course eventually took charge with most of the going on's on the set after J.R. took over the show in character.
I don’t think Dallas would have turned into what it became if Jim Davis had lived
Barbara Bel Geddes as Miss Ellie was one of the great casting choices. I remember as a kid when Barbara appeared in Campbell’s Soup commercials in the 80s, I was like, “It’s the lady from Dallas!”
OMG this video made me cry
Jim Davidson and Barbara Ball Gedhes were incredible actors
R.I.P To Barbara Bel Geddes & Jim Davis, Still Miss You Both, Always 😢😢
Of course, Dallas had to go on without Jim Davis, though everybody loved him so much, however, it was Barbara Bel Geddes's show and she had to look after the younger people to become "another family," to the kids, something she was very good at, who asked them to treat them with respect (without talking schmack, to each other), and (of course), it was also Larry Hagman's, too, because he was a dedicated hard worker (and a darn, good drinker both on- and off-camera) and got involved with every aspect of the script, who became a 'surrogate father' to the younger, newer actors, who came by year, after year, in all of the 13 1/2 seasons. RIP Jim Davis, Barbara Bel Geddes & Larry Hagman.
I read that they considered recasting Jock Ewing but decided against it. Jim Davis was great in the role.
Glad they did not recast out of respect to Jim Davis. But if it had come down to it, Steve Forrest would have made a great Jock Ewing, Wes Parmalee not withstanding.
Yes, they wanted the Late Phil Carey who played Asa Buchanan on One Life To Live for 30 Years on ABC. it was a very smart move because Phil Carey would also die of Cancer.
@James Murphy His or Hers timeline is heavily flawed
Love this she was so mature
It also reminded me of when Michael Zaslow (Ex Roger Thorpe Guiding Light had Lou Gherig's Disease and nobody knew about it at the time. He had such a hard time with his dialogue and folks thought it was Lyme Disease or a Stroke. Another one was James Mitchell (Ex-Palmer Cortlandt) on All My Children who was frail before he died and even when Phil Carey (who was considered for the Role of Clayton farlow who played Asa Buchanan on One Life To Live from 1979 to 2007) who died of Lung Cancer. In Europe The Tates on The UK Soap Opera Emmerdale 1972-Present were a fabulously wealthy Family who although didn't have the dysfunction of The Ewings bought Glamour to The Farming Community. Sadly enough Leah Bracknell who played Zoe Tate from 1989-2005 died last Month of Lung Cancer.
I had the biggest crush on Michael Zaslow back in the day.
Still makes me cry.
Very big of Ray to do what he tried to do here. Shows that Larry Hangman’s idea of making him a Ewing was a good one
Ms. Ellie is a very good Woman. And is very caring and forgiving. Bobby has a lot of that in him. This shows how willing she is to admit her faults. And accept Ray as a member of her family.
I could never figure out why Miss Ellie never took a trip out to Knots Landing, California, to visit her favorite son? She could certainly afford it. She could spare the time, too. And she was up to traveling, as she did with Clayton in later seasons of Dallas.
She was waiting for an invitation. And Gary didn't want to extend one.
@@heddalee Yeah! That makes sense, given the social etiquette traditions she followed.
Whenever two people have a love for each other that is eternal, they WILL find a way to work things out and be together, no matter what.
No ocean is too deep. No mountain is too high. No desert is too hot, no road is too long.
And that's all I've got to say.
Heartbreaking it is. But, it's for the best. That bastard, JR!!
gary should have been in more episodes
Gary wasn't strong enough to survive in Dallas...
I think that if Gary was around more Lucy wouldn't. She was like a substitution for Gary. She was there for the younger generation her age group of fans.
I didn’t like Gary
Gary wasn't able to measure up to the rest of the family standards while better off on his own to eventually find his footing on Knots Landing in becoming his own man.
He made up for it in Knots Landing
Miss Ellie was the one who bought Gary and Valene their house in Knots Landing for a wedding present. She should have Known that Gary and J.R. couldn't ever live under The same roof again Valene certainly didn't.
My sister was her post master in NEH, Maine. When she came to post office in this very small town ,often another customer would approach her and say "Oh, I loved you on Dallas." My sister says she would reply "Oh, that silly thing" inferring that she considered her work on Dallas as trivial compared to her other work.
Bel Geddes was "theatre" born and bred. She did Dallas for the money lol
@@jasongilmore8595 yes, her raise request being turned down was the REAL reason she left the show in 1984. After she left DALLAS for the second time, in 1990, she lost most of her $$ from bad business investments.
Such a powerful scene. Omg years in 2023 smh
I So Loved this show!
Mr And Mrs. Jock EWING.the bestEVER
Gary's not coming back because he's too involved in all that craziness with those nosy neighbors on Seaview Circle. Why return to Southfork when you have Mack and Karen grilling over the back fence or Abby flirting from her driveway?
I know she's just playing the part of the character. And that this is a TV show. However I felt the same way she did when my brother left home. He said he was never coming back. He's been dead now for over 20 years. I miss him very much.
Jim Davis was sick here- his face is swollen, he's reading his lines off cue cards.
Plus I'm pretty sure that is a wig
smitchix1 yep. chemo killed his hair.
Yes. Phil Carey (Ex-Asa Buchanan) One Life To Live was once considered for the Role of Jock Ewing after Jim Davis died but he said no. He didn't want to leave New York for Los Angeles. Also, because he played a Millionaire from Texas he was similar to Jock but his relationships with his Sons Beaufort aka "Bo" and Clinton aka "Clint" wasn't as challenging.
Sadly he was dying. May he Rest In Peace.
He was great
Ray was,a,good ewing
Miss Ellie loved Gary
Miss Ellie 💛💛 class act - love her
This was Jim Davis's second-to-last appearance, and it was also the year after Ted Shackelford left to do "Knots Landing," with Joan Van Ark, that his character wasn't really coming back to live with Miss Ellie, Jock & The Ewing Boys in "Dallas," when he was living with Val, near The Fairgates, The Averys, The Wards & wicked, wicked Abby Cunningham, all in California.
Gary did return on the new Dallas.
RIP Jim Davis and Barbara Bel Geddes
Ellie doesn't need that bastard child showing up ruining things. - 😅
A BEAUTIFUL Scene 😭
Happy anniversary 🎊🎉
The REAL stars of that show were Jim Davis and Barbara Bel Geddes. EVERYONE else was a supporting player, I don't care what the "credits" said.
The credits had Barbara and Jim as the first 2 stars listed, because they did it in alphabetical order. Same with Knots
She loved Ray like he was her own
Please tear it up I need the money
So this all started when Gary said Ray will take care of Southfork!
Miss Ellie❤
Gary escaped the Ewing family snake pit!
MIss Elle's eyes kill me
Just a few observations: Ray matured into a good man; of all the actors and actresses on the show, I think Barbara Bel Geddes may have been the most talented; CBS hit a home run...no parts have ever been better played than Jim Davis as Jock and Larry Hagman as JR; Gary was a deadbeat; Donna was the best-looking wife on the show.
Allen Gilbert JR intimidated Gary.He wasn't up to the oil business antics.
@@rahlohmcdonogh280 , JR may have intimidated Gary but he had his reasons JR was selfish he wanted Ewing Oil all to himself he never wanted to share the company with Bobby and Gary. Dispite that being Jock's wishes as we found out during the reading of his Will...before he thought up the contest.
If Ellie wanted Gary to come back, why did she buy him a home in California?
Ray and Bobby became close
Miss Ellie the best 😍❤👍👍👍👍👍
Did Y'all get a looksie at that 💍 Ms.Ellie is wearing? That rock is a BOULDER.
Boyyyy families with money always looking over their shoulders!!!👀👀👀👀
I wish somebody would add me to a trust fund.
Quelle season ? Quel épisode ?
Wasn't this Jock's last real scene?
I beleive he was in the next episode for less than a minute and he was sitting in back of the limosine
You can tell he is sick in this scene..
willisapril So it was essentially his last real scene. I remember the limo scene but I don't remember if he even spoke in the limo. Maybe Storm does.
Phynesse A That's true. You could tell he was sick in pretty much all of the scenes in the last 5-6 episodes he was in.
It tells you of his love for the show / the way that he carried himself as an actor and a man. Most people who know that they only had weeks (days?) to live, wouldn't be coming into work. If you read Dallas history, you will find that he barely could stand in that limo scene and that all sorts of editing had to be done, just to make it believable.
Who said love can't conquer all!
Gary left because of that evil Jr Gary didn't have the strength to stand up to him like Ray and Bobby all I can say right with a hell of a man you didn't care about money
You can tell Jim Davis is not in good health. Although the music and the acting reminded me of a western movie from the 1950s.
I'm glad Miss Ellie got her anger & hurt out.
At the heart of DALLAS wasn't family, it was the passion between Jock and Ellie, which started an empire. All the stories always came down to them. Everything was outside their inner circle. When Jock passed, the show lost that. He haunted the story for years to come, but the real DALLAS truly ended when Jock and Ellie could no longer bring the story back to them.
I never liked the way they closed out her character, giving up Southfork and never coming back. Instead off to Europe with Ray, Jenna, Clayton, Lucy, Sue Ellen and John Ross all who moved to Europe before her. All those Texas ranch folks in Europe?
Miss Ellie run the entire seasons with the very same face expression: always in the verge of crying 😭
They gotta have this series on dvd.DVD.. I need it. There's Nothing on TV. I'll rather watch this
Gary's more of a beach guy.
it was a shame jim davis deceased while the show was going jock was awesome
Jim Davis was one tough son of a bitch, he was loaded with brain cancer during these scenes, and you could tell he was really struggling.
But like the pro he always was he got through it the best he could.
Friend of mine who worked on the Dallas set told me that Davis was the most focused actor on the show, he would remember his lines after reading the script once.
This final scene with BBG seemed more like a real goodbye than just a scene on television.
Gary's not coming back to Southfork because the writers want him in Knots Landing, Miss Ellie. 😛
I was in love with Barbara
I appreciate Ray wanting to keep Miss Ellie and Jock from divorcing, but damn. I don't think I could physically make myself sign any legal document that would give away my claim to the Ewing money. lol....I would have said, "Jock made me part of the trust fund, if you don't like it Miss Ellie, that's just too damn bad. " Ray better be glad that Miss Ellie didn't call his bluff on that one. lol.....
Notice Ellie was upset Gary left, Bobby left, and Ray almost left. OTOH she probably almost had JR thrown off more than once.
She never understood that if you’ve done your job as a parent then your kids can stand on their own 2 feet and move out to their own lives. They could each build their own houses on Southfork like Ray did. Like the Kennedy’s did on their “compound” in Massachusetts
@@twc8356 it seems to me that in the first episodes of the show, Jr pretends to want to show Pamela around the house after the new bride (Pam) arrives at the ranch. They come out of the house and take a few steps, then Jr shows a small house or rather a kind of outhouse and tells her that it is his as well as that of sue-ellen. He says it's small but they have two bedrooms (the second is for the future nursery in case of Sue-Ellen's pregnancy). However, Jr and Sue Ellen appear to be living at the ranch. During the visit, Pam also sees another small house then Jr explains to her that it was Gary's house during his marriage to Valene.
Then, we never saw these small houses on the screen again and nobody lives there so I wonder if these two houses were not demolished. Although these houses were really too close to the main house, it was a good opportunity for the sons to have their own independence. Unfortunately, Bobby and JR are so used to having dinner together as Jock had decided, that they all stay under the same roof despite all the conflicts Lol.
I think Ray acted differently because he had never lived at the ranch before so he was used to enjoying his independence. Finally, maybe he wanted to live in peace with Donna, without having to put up with JR every day.
a well deserved emmy
Gary ass was weak. Ray would never insert himself and do people the way JR does. Ms. Ellie had no choice but to accept it.
Actors remain Actors !!They are paid to be someone else !! And we're supposed to follow
Was it ever mentioned if Ray went off to Vietnam? I know JR had served.