Many held high expectations for the show and thus set themselves up for disappointment...I held no expectations and enjoyed and appreciated all episodes.
I think we should call the series "Sands of Tatooine" and let go of this hang-up over the name: 'I would like this ice cream if it was just named something else!'
I thought the best episode about Boba Fett was with the Tuscans. I was so disappointed that the other Tuscan tribes (and even the Jawas, just for fun) did not rise up in his defence at the end. It would have tied it altogether. With all the townspeople, Tuscans and Jawas working together.
Fully agreed. I get that you need to have the deaths of the tribe he bonded with for his character motivation. These were the individuals who directly impacted him. But I think they made a mistake having that specific tribe be isolated from the rest of the Tuskens. You could have very easily made it to where the story of him helping that tribe spread to where the other tribes would have supported him in the final fight. It would give a more complete sense of Boba uniting ALL of Tatooine against a foreign threat, and so him being the leader coming out of it would carry more weight than "I want to be a crime boss now I guess".
Could be many explanations to explain why they didn't involve them for the final episode, could it be that there's divisions between individual tribes which have not been covered, that we're not aware of, or is there just a general camaraderie and unity, where Boba could have had Mando track some down in the N1 NabooCrest to join forces with the others? 😄
I remember as a kid thinking how cheesy it was when the rancor trainer was crying after Luke crushed its head with the iron gate. Flashforward to Book of Fett and Dany Trejo explaining how the pet and trainer can have an emotional bond made the iconic scene relevant and nostalgic. I think the show has kept up with the Star Wars genre and a little cheese can go well with wine. Both taste great after proper aging.
I wasn’t anticipating this show much. I ended up enjoying it more than I thought I would. It was partially bc they dumped that toy chest on the floor and was like there you go have fun with it and I did. It could’ve always been better, but any Star Wars is better than none (most of the time anyway).
The Mandalorian "Din Djarin", basically stole Boba Fett's allure and character style from him. Boba should have been portrayed more to the likes of Din Djarin's character ultimately. They couldn't do it twice.
I actually really liked the differences between the two, and thought they should have spent more time on Boba Fett's abandoning or not caring about the Mandalorian religion, but then I was baffled that Din was a bounty hunter again after getting the darksaber.
I personally believe the show suffered because The Mandalorian S1 was essentially what happened to be everything Boba Fett was believed to be(and more). I wish we saw events throughout Boba’s life(Clone Wars Style). We could have seen a young Boba interact with Aurra Sing and Cad Bane, etc. All in all I enjoyed the show because anything Star Wars is great.
Anything Star Wars is not all great. Some of it is downright shit. The emperor's new clothes effect is in place to people not open minded enough to judge things critically.
The book of Boba Fett should’ve been a prequel, showing his youth all the way up to what we knew about him in the OG Trilogy. Then theu could’ve went into present time with the Mandalorian
So I guess because I’ve never had high expectations for any show (Star Wars or marvel) that I just enjoy it for what it is. However I do think that if the flashbacks were told first and in order, it would have helped the show feel more whole. Loved this conversation!
Nah they had to do flashbacks because Bobby was already introduced in Mando season 2. People would either be confused or bored with the show trying to catch up
Think perhaps we’re all over analyzing Book of Boba and comparing to the masterpiece that Mandalorian is. It’s great Star Wars. Especially compared to sequel trilogy. Absolutely love it. Felt like a kid again.
The story falls apart once Fett offers to help the Rodian escape. He came out of the Sarlacc a good guy. He didn't change over time. His motivations never made sense. Jon Favreau's Boba Fett is soft, naive, and stupid. I can only conclude that he ruined the character on purpose to elevate Mando.
This 100000 times over. I love the cold, calculating, ruthless, smart Fett from the books but since it's not canon we can't assume that's how he actually is. It was their call to make him into whatever they wanted and I guess soft and squishy is what they went for. They didn't "ruin" my favorite character but they sure lowered my opinion of him by a lot. Still a fun watch, and I enjoyed the show but secretly I am disappointed with the approach they took. Can't please everyone though, I'm sure the kids loved it..
Offering the Rodian help makes sense, because if both were committed to escape, it could have increased his chances of escape. Even if the two just ran off in different directions, it would mean half as many Tuskans going after him. Many times an act that seem altruistic is actually selfish.
Personally, I'm happy you have Doug as a companion. He seems so innocent and charming, but don't let that soft fluffy exterior fool you. We've seen him occasionally unleash his full inner Doug and it's AWESOME!
Most of the critiques I've seen for this show amount to people crying that it's not the same as Mando while missing the entire plot to the Book of Boba. Boba had a life epiphany while in the Sarlacc pit/Bacta tanks. Basically his bounty hunter life almost got him killed... like his father was. The Tuskans taught him about living an honourable life. You even mention there shouldn't be flashbacks if they don't effect anything in the future story... uhh.... You might want to re-watch the final fight where Boba takes down Cad Bane. That Gaffi stick he used... the techniques he used... it's all explained in the flashbacks. My only question is, did if really need to be a separate show? Mando and Boba could have been all the same show. The story would have made more sense for people if it was told in chronological order. Could have blended in the Boba/Tuskan back story in with Season 1, then Season 2 have him and Fennec taking over Jabba's Palace.
Your take is completely what people should be taking about. They shouldn’t, on the other hand, be whining that it’s not a good show and doesn’t have character development. When it comes to Star Wars, people complain too much. This show was made to help fans understand bobas continued story and unfortunately Din is a better written character and fans can’t get over that.
Seriously, Ryan; I would watch your edit of the first 4 episodes. I was thinking the same things: why the flashbacks? Why not linear? What does the story gain by using flashbacks?
I think the motivation for Boba doing what he does is that he is finding what it means to have honor and be honorable. His whole life he's been following in others footsteps and taking orders for people who don't really care for him. His experience in the Sarlac and later in the desert changes something in him fundamentally even if he's unsure of what it is himself. All he knows is that the life that led him to the pit is not the life for him. That's why we need Mando. He knows the Way. I think Mando will teach the Way to all Mandolorians including Bo Katan. Honor baby - let's restore the Honor of the Mandolorian culture.
@@dartheverstar9564 I think they hit it on the head early in the video. Take those first 4 episodes, put them in chronological order, and have it be like a nice lil 4-ep special right before Mando S3 debuts, and then have 5-7 be the start of Mando. Think about those 3 episodes and how great of a kickstart that would be to a new season, with (hopefully) more impressive things to come. You'd just need a bit more of a climax to those first 4 eps, maybe end it with Fennec meeting with Din to ask for help, and then when you pick it back up you're closing out that hanging thread of Boba's journey. IDK, not sure what the right answer is but I don't think what they did was it.
Ahh yes, the honor of disrupting a whole town, fucking up the local economy, and leaving a power vacuum for the spice trade. Oh and getting all those “unpleasant not human people” out of the way in mos espa.
@@mzaite he saved Fennec Shand from death after almost dying himself. Helped the sand people for saving his life. Avenged them after they were murdered (sort of avenged). Was kind and respectful to all of the people of Mos Espa - Water guy, MODs, Cantina owner. Gave the Gamorreans jobs and trusted them. Spared the Twi Lek and the Wookie, there's a million things he did that was the honorable way. The town of Mos Espa would have been annihilated had they not set up in town so I think they'll forgive the rancor. They ain't running spice there now are they? So looks like power vacuum is filled buddy. Quite the honor filled episode if you ask me.
@@acolytesounds If Fett isn't running the spice, as he said he wasn't. That didn't make the market go away. Also everyone in Mos Espa seems pretty ok with the Bib Fortuna status quo. Fett just caused problems that haven't even become evident yet. My guess is someone is going to move in and capitalize on that spice market, and if we're lucky it will be Maul.
I watched the series with my 10 year old son. I saw on his face the same joy I felt at 10 when I saw TESB. I also think the disjointed story telling may have something to do with the disrupted production schedules over the last couple of years. Either way, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. Let's not over think it too much.
I utterly disagree with the critiques. If anything I was worried we wouldn't see Mando/Din Djarin in BOBF at all so I was extremely happy and relieved when he showed up. I was completely convinced that we (sadly) wouldn't see Grogu in the show so I was even more happy to see him. More of good Luke and not the Luke Skywalker from the sequels was just icing on the cake.
I agree, the only thing I agree a bit with in their critiques is how the first 4 episodes were structured, but I don't know if it would have worked better as, say 2 episodes of just the sarlac rescue/Tuscan tribe, and then just continue forward with the present day.
Why is this guy pretending to know who Boba Fett was from literally seconds of screen time in previous films that he himself is referencing as the source of how he feels about Fett? We are finding out who he is during this series. We didn't already know him. He was a literal mystery prior to this series. He's suggesting Fett has somehow changed. Changed from what? What was he before? Exactly. We don't know what he was before. He probably had less than one minute of screen time prior to this. There are Ewoks that we knew more about.
This show epitomises the trend with large cinematic universes: making *content* rather than *stories* . Not far off from what Scorsese has been saying about cinema. The Book of Boba Fett is set in the Star Wars universe, linking in as many recognisable characters as possible in some very familiar settings (with copy-cat set pieces) to make that abundantly clear. But there's no narrative arc, no emotion, no suspense, and no character development. We know Luke's backstory from the original trilogy, and his future from the sequel trilogy; there's nothing gained by showing us what happened in the middle. Same thing for Boba Fett flashbacks (since we saw him in Mandalorian already). The relentless stoicism and blank expressions from Boba and Senec are just bland. The only time there's anything resembling emotion or characters behaving as people is in the bits that are flashbacks or related to Grogu, ie, not part of the main show. Oh, and the talkative guy who used to work for the Mayor, he had more humanity than the rest of the cast put together, but was mostly used as comic relief thereby washing away any potential depth. The mods are nothing more than cyber-punk, colour-coded power-rangers who are obviously only designed to sell toys. Their entire personality boils down to "they exist" and nothing more. It's like the whole show was designed by a committee that poured over characters' timelines from the Star Wars universe, saw where there were gaps, and decided to cram as much *content* there as possible, with no regard for story telling. It's the opposite of Mandalorian (season 1) which took slightly familiar aspects from Star Wars, and told a coherent, engaging story by giving itself space to do so in new settings with new characters. The Book of Boba Fett is nothing more than an additional shot of *content* for those addicted to Star Wars, and has as much entertainment value as seeing the wheels spin on a one-arm-bandit at 5am in a second rate casino. People who reply "anything Star Wars is great" are exhibiting precisely the behaviour of an addict begging for their next hit.
I feel like everyone is forgetting he had a huge arc in clone wars. Everyone bases this off empire and return if the Jedi. It was character development and the shows are all connected. So much so the bounds of the shows dissolve. I liked the back story, the flash backs and how his new demeanor. He was more angry in the beginning of the show and learns to calm. I don't get why everyone is just trying to find a reason to not like it. Do you want him quiet or talking? Because we had both. I feel like people's expectations got in the way of this one. I like where it's going and like season one of clone wars. Wasn't received well now I still love it
Everyone expects everything to be a masterpiece that's better than anything before it. It's a weird mindset. It happened with hawkeye as well. Is it amazing? Hell no. But it was also no star wars Ray Mary sue either.
@dflowers30 I disagree. This show stood on its own perfectly fine. It's not the show runners fault that people are only partial star wars fans. Not watching clone wars or rebels is a choice. A huge swath of the current story is spilling from those episodes. Choosing to not watch it hinders said person's view of the storyline. To say it needs to stand on its own is silly at best. Clone wars and rebels were made for these shows. We have been witnessing a huge world building for a decade and it's coming together now. So while everyone only sees a wall. We see the doorway to the gateway between worlds. I for one am excited to see where this goes!
One thing that people don't seem to mention is Temuera Morrison. I want to like him. I really do! But as we're talking about his character not having an arc or not caring enough about him as opposed to caring more about Mando & Grogu. A HUGE part of it is the writing of course, but Temuera Morrison is just.... so flat. We have to care about this character and a BIG part of that is the actor projecting that character. Pedro went how long playing Din with that helmet on and we felt every movement, turn, word and feeling. Temuera had his helmet off most of the series and he still didn't seem to radiate anything. Again, a HUGE part of that is the writing and lack of arc for him, but .... he's the center of this story and we cared more about other characters than him, even characters that don't even speak. Just saying... I see this series as a bridge series that connects things and begins other directions.
Yes. This. And another thing that I’ve not seen anyone mention - he’s just way too fricken old, which took me out of the story from the start. I get wanting to have the original clone actor portray him, but Boba is canonically only 41 years old at this point, and Temuera is 61. Plus he magically put on a bunch of weight after falling into that sarlacc. It just didn’t work from the very start. I really think this whole thing would worked better if they recast him.
Personally I think they should have looked at Spider-man’s way of dealing with the nostalgia characters. Cad Bane in the show was a little more than a cameo, same with asohka. Why would asohka be chilling in luke’s planet if she was searching for thrawn the last time we saw her, we didnt have a glimpse of that story in any way(something that could lead into her show). And Luke was incredible incoherent in favor of the sequels, why would he make grogu choose betwen the jedi way and attachment when it was thanks to the attachment to his father that he defeated the empire. Another critiscm that I have is the use of cgi to make old characters come back instead of using an actor. It was never necessary in the past, the change of actors gave us Ewan as obi wan back in the day. I think we are missing on a lot in that regard And to kinda quote mark hamill, I don’t think this was our bobba I think it was just bob
Creatively, it was intended that the flashbacks were moments of processing PTSD or 2nd chance at life brings a new outlook, and that coming out of the Sarlac was indeed his rebirth, and like a person recovering both the parts you liked about the person you were, there is a discovery process of learning to become what Boba is transforming towards. Also, that time with the Tuscans was supposed to be profound, remembered, and changed his worldview. Just like a Hunka ceremony where a tribal member of a Native American tribe would adopt someone into their family as I was by a Lakota family back in 2007, you are gaining new parents, brothers, sisters, and beliefs. One that understands stewardship of the land, and how to take care of it. Then bringing that mentality to a more modern and corrupt world. Don't know why these parts weren't emphasized more or overlooked by the viewer, directors, etc. But that is how it came out in the creative session. Also, wrote a scene of accidental eating by Rancor as a possible. Wanted more development time with the beast but then, it wouldn't of been as much of a surprise at the end I guess. You had to forget about it a bit. Plus, Boba, needed to call in all his friends, including Mando. Those sidebars would of been way more schizo if held for later Mando 3 or some other show. Best to get Luke's failed first recruiting attempt and choice with Grogu out of the way. Quests aren't always given with all steps revealed in advance. A new tribe forms. The Force itself is training and testing all parties involved. Ultimately, we intended to provide a fan feast, and I think some may have overate/overcooked? We also used roleplay methods to write multiple seasons at once, multiple sessions should have occurred to fine-tune the first. Everyone should have had a chance to write for a force wielder as a goal. Believe the spin was input from that actor or a creative to reference a Lego game dodge animation, a comment on a fan forum helped me remember that bit but post might have missed placing the blaster shot to trigger it. Still a good shot for a GIF or poster. I hear the panel's negative critique, fair and valid, hope the response helps.
This show had great special effects and stunning visuals. I didn't like the Mods motorcycles. To me they looked like something that belongs in "The 5th Element" rather than Star Wars, but everything else was fine. This show's weakness is it's character development. It just seems as if there wasn't any significant effort given to making Boba Fett a character that we can understand and sympathize with. I take that as just poor writing. You can throw all the special effects that Lucasfilm and Disney have at a show, and it won't mean anything if ultimately you can't identify with the characters at all. This is why the two Mandalorian episodes were the best out of all seven. We understand Din Djarin and Grogo. We even understand the Armourer and Paz Visla. We know who they are. We know what their motivations are. We can easily identify with them. Boba Fett's motivations are unclear through most of the show, and so are Fennec Shand's. This show needed to let us really get to know those characters, so that we can identify with them, and really get behind them. Unfortunately, that just didn't happen at all. When the series ended, I was left wondering why they even made it at all. I feel as though their money would have been better spent on The Mandalorian Season 3.
I've gone back and rewatched the entire show again to see how it landed on a second viewing, because I also felt a little underwhelmed by the time it had all wrapped up. I'm sure that the writers got together and reflected on how Boba Fett, cool as he is, is this traditionally one-dimensional character. Be a badass, do jobs, get paid. Mandalorian S2 did a good job showing us Fett is a little different than the last time we saw him. Sure, he was after his armor when he met Din Djarin, but he also honored his word and risked himself to help get Grogu back from the Empire. There was this honorable facet to the cold-hearted bounty hunter we were used to. So I love the basic idea (we'll talk about the execution) of the show was to develop him as a character. Agree with ScreenCrush that the flashbacks should have just dominated the entire 7 episodes and we get to see how Boba emerging from the Sarlaac develops into this more honorable guy by the time he meets Din Djarin, or we should have left the entire narrative in the present and focused on why Boba Fett now wants to be the Daimyo of Tatooine and further develop him as not only a man of honor but a wise leader and ruler. Instead, we get 1) Almost half of the show is flashbacks 2) The other half is the present where he is no longer developing as a character, basically just running out the clock til the inevitable showdown with the pikes 3) Complete pause on his story to do 2 episodes of Mandalorian. Honestly it's kind of ironic that even in bringing Boba Fett back from the dead, he ends up being a side character in his own series. Hopefully they let a good writer do a comic or book series that continues his story and does the character more justice.
it was amazing ,like at this point everyone wants a perfect show,they did fan service at its glory ,imagine all the people working to make something cool ,to some adults complaining ,yes is an opinion ,but super personal opinion ,i would love to see some credentianls on the people reviewing like have you developt any character? have you writen any scripts? have you work on some tv production? like ask a 15 year old a 25 y old , thats who they show is for really ,thats why lucas left ,and on some years feloni would cause all of this obsession to glorify the bad and not the good
i have to disagree the fact that you say its not structured properly and its all over the place is what i love about this series they did something DIFFERENT and succeded do penalize them for doing something different while still remaining true to star wars
I guess it’s the 3rd “book” in the Mandalorian series, that just happens to be called the Book of Boba Fett. It answers a few questions we had on his survival and his redemption or transformation into a protagonist. He was a villain, but he did follow a moral code. The underlying purpose was to make him a good guy, but now he is in charge of a faction of the underworld, which is likely a theme going forward for Star Wars in this era or timeline.
These three people hit the nail on the head. The Book of Boba Fett had many great moments but it should of focused solely on Boba Fett's story after he escaped the Sarlacc Pit. As much as I loved the 2 episodes with Mando, I think they should have saved those for Mandalorian season 3. Sure have him show up to help Boba but they could have shown him no longer having the Beskar spear and there's only hints about what's going on in his life through the dialogue. In essence, these would act as teasers for Mando season 3 while still keeping the focus on what's going on with Boba. It's okay to bring in a character from another series with only a small explanation what he's been up to since we all know his story will be explored further later on. It would actually be more intriguing to have to wait until his side of things is shown in HIS show. I also can't get over how Boba Fett recruited all these minions to flesh out his "criminal empire" and then the show literally never explores these characters at all. I'm not even sure any of the Moders' names were ever spoken. They are paradoxically both cannon fodder and have plot armor at the same time.
100% agree with Matt on every statement he has here. 🔥 I’m kind of surprised they didn’t take the opportunity to give Boba a live-action flashback story from his childhood interactions with Bossk, Aurra, Asajj, Dengar, and more to explain his transformation into the seemingly more solitary and uncompromising ESB Boba, then evolve again into the seemingly ‘nice’ Boba of ‘the Mandalorian’.
This was a unique storytelling strategy. It required people to set aside “expectations” and follow the journey. Sometimes not knowing “Why?” is meant to be apart of the journey. We are so used to making inferences and catching easter eggs, that I can understand the frustration. But this is real life, people don’t always know why others are making certain moves, but rather their intentions.
The Book of bobba was fan service and I loved it. The story was weird but I enjoyed it. I think the slow pace and weird story just served to string us along with questions of why
Me: So, The Book of Boba Fett is pretty polarizing with many fans loving it and many fans hating it. What are you're thoughts ScreenCrush? Ryan Arey: I'm playing both sides, so that way I always come out on top.
Flashback show us how he made the change. Experiencing a tribe, wanting his own tribe. Which ties ogether at the end with him killing the blue cowboy. He is more complete now, it shows it gave him even more power in kind of a symbolic way.
Why can’t you just enjoy the show for what it is? If they didn’t put the flashbacks in the first few episodes then you would complain why didn’t they explain how he got out of the Sarlacc pit? SMH 🤦
I think the Mando-centric episodes made a lot more sense once we saw the season finale. Those episodes had to position Din and Grogu so they were where they needed to be to participate in the finale. Could they have not included Grogu and just had Din fight alongside Boba? Sure and it would not have needed two episodes of story time to make it happen. We could have caught up with Grogu and Luke at the beginning of The Mandalorian season 3, giving Grogu a little more training time. Perhaps we could have had some sort of Mando Christmas special prior to The Book of Boba Fett, where that character positioning could have been done without it eating into Boba’s storyline.
13:25 I grew up in a mafia-run neighborhood here in Italy. When the new boss came in in the early 90s he was absolutely fixated on being liked. He was very concerned about what his reputation and good standing was. And this guy came from the streets, he was a cold blooded sicario. But when he came in he was sort of acting like he was the benevolent father, a good man with honest principles. To someone from outside the criminal-run area it would seem weird, but it actually makes sense.
I've always hoped my 2 kids would get into star wars but they didn't really until the Mandalorian which they loved. They actually preferred TBOBF and couldn't wait to watch it each week. That's good enough for me and it's great to see kids loving star wars again.
Fett needs bounty hunting explained to him: "I have money ..." "Money can BUY muscle ..." WTH? Boba Fett is this galaxy's definitive bounty hunter and HE DOESN'T KNOW money buys muscle??? THAT'S what bounty hunting is! lol
They keep mentioning episode 4 being a drastic improvement for a reason. The show got better because Robert Rodriguez seemingly got out of the way until the end. The show would have been much more consistent and had much higher quality pacing if Filoni or Faverau were directing, or BDH or Waititi. If more people told RR 'no' more often we would have a very different series and discussion. It feels like they misunderstood why his movies consistently fail until they're picked up by rabid fandom, you can't just smash things named 'cult classics' together and assume they'll work. I'm glad none of the discussion anywhere I've seen ever talks badly about Morrison's acting though. Dude killed it and brought a real sense of deliberate honor to a revered character. He's one of the best parts of the entire franchise for a reason, and I hope he's able to show more of that off in the next seasons.
I think it would have been interesting if they did it in chronological order but with a twist. Episodes 1-2 is Boba escaping from the sarlac and living with the Tuskans. Episodes 3-4 are the Mandalorian 2.5 ones. Episode 5 starts with Boba explaining how his experience with the Tuskans made him want to give up bounty hunting and build a tribe. Then it (and the next few episodes) goes into each ally as they're forced to come before Boba, ending with them joining him. That all leads to the finale where they join forces against the pikes.
It was fine. The structure could be improved, but it doesn't matter at all. A bunch of story was told that was supposed to be told, regardless of the order or the showcase.
Ryan, You answered your own question. It’s live action Star Wars! NO ONE thought they’d ever see that. It’s one of the main complaints about SW fans. They all overthink it. In the final of the Mandalorian, everyone focused on the CGI de-aged Luke. Who cares?!?? It was Luke freakin Skywalker! Just enjoy it.
I give the overall series a 7.5/10, my favorite episode is episode 2. the finale was filled with action which was epic, and gave me many vibes. It is also the first series i have ever watched live, basically the first ever series to come out after i became a huge star wars fan and actually got into star wars.
Personal head canon. Boba's big personality change is having his mind intertwined with the consciousness of the Sarlacc and everyone in there from all of the different factions on Tatooine. I definitely wish the people in the town got much more time like you said.
I can't believe Peacemaker And Boba Fett both got tv shows about them as anti-heroes on the path of self-discovery after nearly dying. Unfortunately, Boba became a Care-bear crime lord that was barely in his own show with nothing to do. Peacemaker show kept the title character the star and made me care about the people on his team. After watching all of book of boba fett im not even sure what he wanted to accomplish? briefly take over as crimelord who won't do crime, sell spice or even offer protection. Boba the only thing you lived up to is your reputation of looking cool while doing next to nothing. I love Star Wars and boba but damn the best episodes of his show he is not even in.
It feels like it was written to fill holes for upcoming movies and series. Some committee of Lucasfilm production stakeholders wrote up a specification document, and then it was handed off to the writing interns to mash it together. It's best to just appreciate it as an extended medley, and leave it at that.
It wasnt writing interns though. the writers, directors and showrunners all have their names on the show, and theyre typically quite good. There were good things in the show, but it was muddled, unfocused
I enjoyed the show and always invested more in the character of Boba Fett than his screen time warranted. I thought the flashbacks were fine. Personally, flashbacks break up the flow of the story and introduce a new story line and detail aspects of the character, which I like. Considering it was a character from a movie 30 years ago who only had 3 spoken lines I thought they successfully created a story that not only dovetailed into the original movie, but it also explained how and why the character had evolved, picking up most of the content regarding the character in animated shows, books and comics. Additionally, they went into depth on a lot of "new" things. The Mod Kids street gang on the bikes. More storyline involving the Tuskans. And more Rancor. Not every new Star Wars story is going to be "Luke Returns." I give it two thumbs up.
The show is so transparent in how it was reverse engineered. The writers seem to know what makes Star Wars cool (like more details about Tusken culture and when the “city” mods meet the country folk) and inject it from time, but none of it is very fleshed out.
I also think they just used it to get money to lay pipe for Mandalorean season 3. They weren’t getting 2 more episodes out of season 2, so they ran a bait and switch to get Disney to drop cash on another series that they then just cannibalized for a between seasons mandalorean special.
I think the big reason a chronological approach would have been hard is because the events of the Mandalorian fall right in the middle of the timeline. Would they tell up to the moment of Boba meeting Din and then skip? or rehash that mid section? The hop over to Mando 2.5 felt like a mix of contractual obligations to certain actors and a desire to set up Mando 3. They could easily have done Grogu’s choice and Din’s excommunication at the beginning of the next show but probably want to go straight to Mandalore. I thought the Tusken arc was one of the more compelling pieces and wanted Boba to be a Tusken-backed Daimyo. Introduce some of Tatooine’s ultimate outcasts to city life. Instead, they fridged the tribe to give Boba his motivation in a can.
When I think of crime bosses in the hood, being nice to local folks… I can come up with a lot of fictional & a few real life examples. I guess most folks aren’t willing to understand how crime works. For poor folks with little opportunity, crime is a logical choice. Folks have to eat & live. People like nice things. It’s a nuance that seems to be missed by a lot of people. Star Wars allows for characters to be more than 2 dimensional. I’m closing, Star Wars fans feel like they have everything figured out within the first five mins of an episode. I enjoy the curveballs mixed in with the fast balls. I love the direction the Star Wars narrative is heading (beyond the Skywalker legacy). Pull back on the zoom folks & enjoy the view.
Great analysis Ryan. I agree 100%. It was all over the place. Yet I still loved a lot that they did. They need to create a season 2, taking into consideration the fans constructive criticism.
@@MrBazBake You missed my point. The original actor that played Boba Fett was over 6’ tall. This actor is only 5’5”. And by original trilogy, I mean Episodes IV, V, an VI. Visually, his screen presence isn’t as big, making him feel less threatening.
The smart thing to have done would have been showing one pre-RotJ bounty mission that established Boba as cold and ruthless with the cracks starting to appear. Maybe he kills a partner or breaks up a family-the job starts to get to him-and his boss thinks nothing of the event at all. That plus a near death experience in the sarlak pit might have been enough set up for an arc going forward.
I wish they would have flashed back further. Episode 1 is Boba frustrating Vader (awesome cameo) by disintegrating people as a ruthless loner. 2-3 episodes of escape and time with the Tuskins. Then 3-4 episodes in modern day, working out his search for a tribe, but his old life keeps trying to suck him back in
Two thoughts. 1) They should have released the two Mandalorian episodes should have been released as a movie/special episode BEFORE Boba Fett came out. Just have it end as Djarin is approached by Fennec. 2.) If you’re not overly familiar with Mafia films or Machiavellian concepts, a lot of what Boba is doing will be lost. It’s not the viewers fault because it isn’t easily discerned. Ruling with love (respect) or fear is a major discussion in those media. It certainly could have been better explained and demonstrated
...ArToo was to honour the many lives that were given not only to see that the plans to the ultimate weapon were secured but that they were delivered safely to Rebel Command (that right there is a Bond film)...in the end it was what aided Luke to destroy the Death Star...how he became involved in the assault...is a story...best kept for another time...
It felt like something was up with Pedro Pascal's schedule. Like he went to them and said, "hey, I'm pretty booked up with other projects next year and I don't think I can give you eight episodes. So they were like, "We have Boba Fett now! We'll throw something together real quick no problem! and then we'll put you into some episodes at the end when you can commit some of your time to filming." Something like that. If I were Pedro Pascal, I'd want to get on to some other projects anyway, one's that actually show my face most of the time I am working. Just a theory, but it's the only way I can make sense of how the season played out.
The vibe I get from literally everybody about this show is that nobody wants to hate it, but we all do in some aspect. Something about it just wasnt right, but its not neccessarily that it failed to deliver most of what we would expect to see, just that the delivery was off the mark... or something. None of us can really explain that feeling.
From the beginning, Disney should have one anthology series called "Star Wars Stories" or something. It could have started with a 4 episode Mandalorian introduction, then shifted to a standalone episode from the Old Republic, maybe another standalone about Baby Dengar, then shift into a few episodes of Obi -Wan, then crossover into the Boba Fett/Tuskin story, maybe go back to Mando for a standalone adventure. They wouldn't even need to split them into seasons, each story arc could be released throughout the year with breaks between.
Didn't yall watch "Clone Wars"??? The first 4 or 5 seasons all jump around & the storyline doesn't go into chronological order until the much later seasons. There literally is a website devoted to the correct order of Clone Wars. The out-of-order storytelling is Dave Filoni's style
While it was far from perfect, I think this show was much better than it gets credit for. People/channels seem to be hating this series just because it makes them feel like “bigger fans”. Nerd hubris runs rampant in the Star Wars community and fans love to think they know more about the characters than Dave Filoni himself… or just to get views.
None of my complaints about the show were around the 'correctness' of the characters as I see them or would like to see them. In fact, I'd be more frustrated if I wasn't as familiar with some of these characters because there is very little character development outside of the Tusken flashbacks, and the Din/Grogu story that really belongs in it's own show. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it more than anything from the sequel trilogy. But I don't think it's a far better show than it gets credit for. I think the credit it gets is surrounding the fanservice it contains, not the actual story it tells and that's appropriate. The present day Tatooine story was boring as shit, and I'm not trying to prop up a youtube channel or claim to be king shit Star Wars expert.
I agree with your comments around 16 min in, Ryan. I'm comfortable with the character growth being that his time with the Tusken tribe, and his moments reflecting on how his father died, led him to want to have a tribe of his own. They didn't seem to put enough work into showing that he wasn't just remembering and experiencing those things, though. We needed to see that they were influencing his decisions and personality. Things like him having opportunities to succeed via his old ways, alone and ruthless, but showing him choose to take a more difficult route because he values the goal of building a solid tribe. Hell, maybe after killing Bane he could've had a chance to reflect on it and tell somebody "That's the road I was on. I would've died alone on a distant planet, with no impact other than the lives I've taken."
I really like your takes on starwars stuff, I watch quite a few starwars channels and I believe you are one of the best as you are a fan but also can look at things from a different angle
What did you think of the Book of Boba Fett?
I thought it was like a bantha
It had its ups and downs. Should’ve been in chronological order. Ending was a mess. No more Robert Rodriguez, go back to making spy kids 5 spy adults.
Many held high expectations for the show and thus set themselves up for disappointment...I held no expectations and enjoyed and appreciated all episodes.
I think we should call the series "Sands of Tatooine" and let go of this hang-up over the name: 'I would like this ice cream if it was just named something else!'
As a stand-alone show, it was very messy. As an interlude to setup bigger and better things, it worked well.
I thought the best episode about Boba Fett was with the Tuscans. I was so disappointed that the other Tuscan tribes (and even the Jawas, just for fun) did not rise up in his defence at the end. It would have tied it altogether. With all the townspeople, Tuscans and Jawas working together.
Worse is that there are Tuskens obviously allied with Freetown. Boba should have recruited them while Mando recruited Cobb Vanth.
Fully agreed. I get that you need to have the deaths of the tribe he bonded with for his character motivation. These were the individuals who directly impacted him. But I think they made a mistake having that specific tribe be isolated from the rest of the Tuskens. You could have very easily made it to where the story of him helping that tribe spread to where the other tribes would have supported him in the final fight. It would give a more complete sense of Boba uniting ALL of Tatooine against a foreign threat, and so him being the leader coming out of it would carry more weight than "I want to be a crime boss now I guess".
Could be many explanations to explain why they didn't involve them for the final episode, could it be that there's divisions between individual tribes which have not been covered, that we're not aware of, or is there just a general camaraderie and unity, where Boba could have had Mando track some down in the N1 NabooCrest to join forces with the others? 😄
my uncle is Tuscan and he makes a mean ossobuco
@@chrisoneill2006 or it’s just lazy writing and or budget issues.
It should have just been named: “The Mandalorian: Book of Boba Fett”. That would have fixed a lot of expectations.
Yes thats brilliant. Everyone like this comment now send this somewhere
That's how I viewed it by the time they reintroduced Din
@@allistertenpenny6871 then The mandalorian book of Ashoka
I actually thought that’s what it was 🤣
Mando was a lonely guy with no friends in this…until he met grogu again. So I don’t really know why he came back-he didn’t do anything.
I remember as a kid thinking how cheesy it was when the rancor trainer was crying after Luke crushed its head with the iron gate. Flashforward to Book of Fett and Dany Trejo explaining how the pet and trainer can have an emotional bond made the iconic scene relevant and nostalgic. I think the show has kept up with the Star Wars genre and a little cheese can go well with wine. Both taste great after proper aging.
I agree, would have love to have seen a montage or a few scenes of boba fett training the rancor.
I wasn’t anticipating this show much. I ended up enjoying it more than I thought I would. It was partially bc they dumped that toy chest on the floor and was like there you go have fun with it and I did. It could’ve always been better, but any Star Wars is better than none (most of the time anyway).
The Mandalorian "Din Djarin", basically stole Boba Fett's allure and character style from him. Boba should have been portrayed more to the likes of Din Djarin's character ultimately. They couldn't do it twice.
I actually really liked the differences between the two, and thought they should have spent more time on Boba Fett's abandoning or not caring about the Mandalorian religion, but then I was baffled that Din was a bounty hunter again after getting the darksaber.
@@RegularRegs Didn't Din take the bounty to get information about the Mandalorian Forge in that ring world?
I personally believe the show suffered because The Mandalorian S1 was essentially what happened to be everything Boba Fett was believed to be(and more). I wish we saw events throughout Boba’s life(Clone Wars Style). We could have seen a young Boba interact with Aurra Sing and Cad Bane, etc. All in all I enjoyed the show because anything Star Wars is great.
Anything Star Wars is not all great. Some of it is downright shit. The emperor's new clothes effect is in place to people not open minded enough to judge things critically.
The book of Boba Fett should’ve been a prequel, showing his youth all the way up to what we knew about him in the OG Trilogy. Then theu could’ve went into present time with the Mandalorian
So I guess because I’ve never had high expectations for any show (Star Wars or marvel) that I just enjoy it for what it is. However I do think that if the flashbacks were told first and in order, it would have helped the show feel more whole. Loved this conversation!
Same dude
your name is a great salsa tune
Nah they had to do flashbacks because Bobby was already introduced in Mando season 2. People would either be confused or bored with the show trying to catch up
Think perhaps we’re all over analyzing Book of Boba and comparing to the masterpiece that Mandalorian is. It’s great Star Wars. Especially compared to sequel trilogy. Absolutely love it. Felt like a kid again.
The story falls apart once Fett offers to help the Rodian escape. He came out of the Sarlacc a good guy. He didn't change over time. His motivations never made sense. Jon Favreau's Boba Fett is soft, naive, and stupid. I can only conclude that he ruined the character on purpose to elevate Mando.
This 100000 times over. I love the cold, calculating, ruthless, smart Fett from the books but since it's not canon we can't assume that's how he actually is. It was their call to make him into whatever they wanted and I guess soft and squishy is what they went for.
They didn't "ruin" my favorite character but they sure lowered my opinion of him by a lot. Still a fun watch, and I enjoyed the show but secretly I am disappointed with the approach they took. Can't please everyone though, I'm sure the kids loved it..
@@cryptominingbros4880 He is a all those things in Disney's own canon in the comics. Cad Bane told the truth.
Completely agree.
Offering the Rodian help makes sense, because if both were committed to escape, it could have increased his chances of escape. Even if the two just ran off in different directions, it would mean half as many Tuskans going after him. Many times an act that seem altruistic is actually selfish.
@@Mister44 Except he tried to help the Rodian again when they were digging for black melons. This was after he ratted him out.
Never been this early to one of your videos Holy Moly!
Thank goodness that you're not first
Me either
@@pletch73 woo woo!
I thought Boba mastering the rankor was a character development opportunity that was completely missed.
Personally, I'm happy you have Doug as a companion. He seems so innocent and charming, but don't let that soft fluffy exterior fool you. We've seen him occasionally unleash his full inner Doug and it's AWESOME!
My favorite line in the entire show is when Boba Fett is teaching the Tuskens how to ride the speeder bikes and he says "Like a Bantha" 😂
What does it even means?
I don't like goofy Boba Fett.
@@killah_disciple1 literallly. Went from badass and mysterious to old and goofy, hanging out w scooter gang
Watch “like a bantha” by ocean dweller 😂 so funny
@@camembertcheese7092 that's amazing 😂😂😂
Most of the critiques I've seen for this show amount to people crying that it's not the same as Mando while missing the entire plot to the Book of Boba. Boba had a life epiphany while in the Sarlacc pit/Bacta tanks. Basically his bounty hunter life almost got him killed... like his father was. The Tuskans taught him about living an honourable life. You even mention there shouldn't be flashbacks if they don't effect anything in the future story... uhh.... You might want to re-watch the final fight where Boba takes down Cad Bane. That Gaffi stick he used... the techniques he used... it's all explained in the flashbacks.
My only question is, did if really need to be a separate show? Mando and Boba could have been all the same show. The story would have made more sense for people if it was told in chronological order. Could have blended in the Boba/Tuskan back story in with Season 1, then Season 2 have him and Fennec taking over Jabba's Palace.
Your take is completely what people should be taking about. They shouldn’t, on the other hand, be whining that it’s not a good show and doesn’t have character development. When it comes to Star Wars, people complain too much. This show was made to help fans understand bobas continued story and unfortunately Din is a better written character and fans can’t get over that.
@@williamrentz2388 or you trolling ?
Seriously, Ryan; I would watch your edit of the first 4 episodes. I was thinking the same things: why the flashbacks? Why not linear? What does the story gain by using flashbacks?
I think the motivation for Boba doing what he does is that he is finding what it means to have honor and be honorable. His whole life he's been following in others footsteps and taking orders for people who don't really care for him. His experience in the Sarlac and later in the desert changes something in him fundamentally even if he's unsure of what it is himself. All he knows is that the life that led him to the pit is not the life for him. That's why we need Mando. He knows the Way. I think Mando will teach the Way to all Mandolorians including Bo Katan. Honor baby - let's restore the Honor of the Mandolorian culture.
@@dartheverstar9564 I think they hit it on the head early in the video. Take those first 4 episodes, put them in chronological order, and have it be like a nice lil 4-ep special right before Mando S3 debuts, and then have 5-7 be the start of Mando. Think about those 3 episodes and how great of a kickstart that would be to a new season, with (hopefully) more impressive things to come.
You'd just need a bit more of a climax to those first 4 eps, maybe end it with Fennec meeting with Din to ask for help, and then when you pick it back up you're closing out that hanging thread of Boba's journey. IDK, not sure what the right answer is but I don't think what they did was it.
there’s no motivation disney just can’t make bad people be people, they had to make boba fett good the same way they did for the tusken
Ahh yes, the honor of disrupting a whole town, fucking up the local economy, and leaving a power vacuum for the spice trade. Oh and getting all those “unpleasant not human people” out of the way in mos espa.
@@mzaite he saved Fennec Shand from death after almost dying himself. Helped the sand people for saving his life. Avenged them after they were murdered (sort of avenged). Was kind and respectful to all of the people of Mos Espa - Water guy, MODs, Cantina owner. Gave the Gamorreans jobs and trusted them. Spared the Twi Lek and the Wookie, there's a million things he did that was the honorable way. The town of Mos Espa would have been annihilated had they not set up in town so I think they'll forgive the rancor. They ain't running spice there now are they? So looks like power vacuum is filled buddy. Quite the honor filled episode if you ask me.
@@acolytesounds If Fett isn't running the spice, as he said he wasn't. That didn't make the market go away. Also everyone in Mos Espa seems pretty ok with the Bib Fortuna status quo. Fett just caused problems that haven't even become evident yet. My guess is someone is going to move in and capitalize on that spice market, and if we're lucky it will be Maul.
I loved every ridiculous second of it. It was formulaic, insane and poorly paced. Still Boba Fett ✌️
When Cad Bane said "What's your angle" I felt that
I watched the series with my 10 year old son. I saw on his face the same joy I felt at 10 when I saw TESB.
I also think the disjointed story telling may have something to do with the disrupted production schedules over the last couple of years. Either way, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. Let's not over think it too much.
Thats what editing and post production is for. Thats no excuse.
Your son's joy is all that matters my dude 👍
Agreed
I utterly disagree with the critiques. If anything I was worried we wouldn't see Mando/Din Djarin in BOBF at all so I was extremely happy and relieved when he showed up. I was completely convinced that we (sadly) wouldn't see Grogu in the show so I was even more happy to see him. More of good Luke and not the Luke Skywalker from the sequels was just icing on the cake.
Me too.
I agree, the only thing I agree a bit with in their critiques is how the first 4 episodes were structured, but I don't know if it would have worked better as, say 2 episodes of just the sarlac rescue/Tuscan tribe, and then just continue forward with the present day.
Why is this guy pretending to know who Boba Fett was from literally seconds of screen time in previous films that he himself is referencing as the source of how he feels about Fett? We are finding out who he is during this series. We didn't already know him. He was a literal mystery prior to this series. He's suggesting Fett has somehow changed. Changed from what? What was he before? Exactly. We don't know what he was before. He probably had less than one minute of screen time prior to this. There are Ewoks that we knew more about.
Boba Fett has 6 minutes and 32 seconds of screen time in the original trilogy but you're right.
This show epitomises the trend with large cinematic universes: making *content* rather than *stories* . Not far off from what Scorsese has been saying about cinema.
The Book of Boba Fett is set in the Star Wars universe, linking in as many recognisable characters as possible in some very familiar settings (with copy-cat set pieces) to make that abundantly clear. But there's no narrative arc, no emotion, no suspense, and no character development. We know Luke's backstory from the original trilogy, and his future from the sequel trilogy; there's nothing gained by showing us what happened in the middle. Same thing for Boba Fett flashbacks (since we saw him in Mandalorian already).
The relentless stoicism and blank expressions from Boba and Senec are just bland. The only time there's anything resembling emotion or characters behaving as people is in the bits that are flashbacks or related to Grogu, ie, not part of the main show. Oh, and the talkative guy who used to work for the Mayor, he had more humanity than the rest of the cast put together, but was mostly used as comic relief thereby washing away any potential depth. The mods are nothing more than cyber-punk, colour-coded power-rangers who are obviously only designed to sell toys. Their entire personality boils down to "they exist" and nothing more.
It's like the whole show was designed by a committee that poured over characters' timelines from the Star Wars universe, saw where there were gaps, and decided to cram as much *content* there as possible, with no regard for story telling. It's the opposite of Mandalorian (season 1) which took slightly familiar aspects from Star Wars, and told a coherent, engaging story by giving itself space to do so in new settings with new characters.
The Book of Boba Fett is nothing more than an additional shot of *content* for those addicted to Star Wars, and has as much entertainment value as seeing the wheels spin on a one-arm-bandit at 5am in a second rate casino. People who reply "anything Star Wars is great" are exhibiting precisely the behaviour of an addict begging for their next hit.
I feel like everyone is forgetting he had a huge arc in clone wars. Everyone bases this off empire and return if the Jedi. It was character development and the shows are all connected. So much so the bounds of the shows dissolve. I liked the back story, the flash backs and how his new demeanor. He was more angry in the beginning of the show and learns to calm. I don't get why everyone is just trying to find a reason to not like it.
Do you want him quiet or talking? Because we had both.
I feel like people's expectations got in the way of this one. I like where it's going and like season one of clone wars. Wasn't received well now I still love it
Everyone expects everything to be a masterpiece that's better than anything before it. It's a weird mindset. It happened with hawkeye as well. Is it amazing? Hell no. But it was also no star wars Ray Mary sue either.
@dflowers30 I disagree. This show stood on its own perfectly fine. It's not the show runners fault that people are only partial star wars fans. Not watching clone wars or rebels is a choice. A huge swath of the current story is spilling from those episodes. Choosing to not watch it hinders said person's view of the storyline. To say it needs to stand on its own is silly at best.
Clone wars and rebels were made for these shows. We have been witnessing a huge world building for a decade and it's coming together now. So while everyone only sees a wall. We see the doorway to the gateway between worlds. I for one am excited to see where this goes!
One thing that people don't seem to mention is Temuera Morrison. I want to like him. I really do! But as we're talking about his character not having an arc or not caring enough about him as opposed to caring more about Mando & Grogu. A HUGE part of it is the writing of course, but Temuera Morrison is just.... so flat. We have to care about this character and a BIG part of that is the actor projecting that character. Pedro went how long playing Din with that helmet on and we felt every movement, turn, word and feeling. Temuera had his helmet off most of the series and he still didn't seem to radiate anything. Again, a HUGE part of that is the writing and lack of arc for him, but .... he's the center of this story and we cared more about other characters than him, even characters that don't even speak. Just saying... I see this series as a bridge series that connects things and begins other directions.
Yes. This. And another thing that I’ve not seen anyone mention - he’s just way too fricken old, which took me out of the story from the start. I get wanting to have the original clone actor portray him, but Boba is canonically only 41 years old at this point, and Temuera is 61. Plus he magically put on a bunch of weight after falling into that sarlacc. It just didn’t work from the very start. I really think this whole thing would worked better if they recast him.
Personally I think they should have looked at Spider-man’s way of dealing with the nostalgia characters. Cad Bane in the show was a little more than a cameo, same with asohka. Why would asohka be chilling in luke’s planet if she was searching for thrawn the last time we saw her, we didnt have a glimpse of that story in any way(something that could lead into her show). And Luke was incredible incoherent in favor of the sequels, why would he make grogu choose betwen the jedi way and attachment when it was thanks to the attachment to his father that he defeated the empire.
Another critiscm that I have is the use of cgi to make old characters come back instead of using an actor. It was never necessary in the past, the change of actors gave us Ewan as obi wan back in the day. I think we are missing on a lot in that regard
And to kinda quote mark hamill, I don’t think this was our bobba I think it was just bob
I missed that the the gamorreans dind't get at least an afterthought and were the only ones to die
Creatively, it was intended that the flashbacks were moments of processing PTSD or 2nd chance at life brings a new outlook, and that coming out of the Sarlac was indeed his rebirth, and like a person recovering both the parts you liked about the person you were, there is a discovery process of learning to become what Boba is transforming towards.
Also, that time with the Tuscans was supposed to be profound, remembered, and changed his worldview. Just like a Hunka ceremony where a tribal member of a Native American tribe would adopt someone into their family as I was by a Lakota family back in 2007, you are gaining new parents, brothers, sisters, and beliefs. One that understands stewardship of the land, and how to take care of it. Then bringing that mentality to a more modern and corrupt world.
Don't know why these parts weren't emphasized more or overlooked by the viewer, directors, etc. But that is how it came out in the creative session. Also, wrote a scene of accidental eating by Rancor as a possible. Wanted more development time with the beast but then, it wouldn't of been as much of a surprise at the end I guess. You had to forget about it a bit.
Plus, Boba, needed to call in all his friends, including Mando. Those sidebars would of been way more schizo if held for later Mando 3 or some other show. Best to get Luke's failed first recruiting attempt and choice with Grogu out of the way. Quests aren't always given with all steps revealed in advance. A new tribe forms.
The Force itself is training and testing all parties involved.
Ultimately, we intended to provide a fan feast, and I think some may have overate/overcooked?
We also used roleplay methods to write multiple seasons at once, multiple sessions should have occurred to fine-tune the first. Everyone should have had a chance to write for a force wielder as a goal. Believe the spin was input from that actor or a creative to reference a Lego game dodge animation, a comment on a fan forum helped me remember that bit but post might have missed placing the blaster shot to trigger it. Still a good shot for a GIF or poster.
I hear the panel's negative critique, fair and valid, hope the response helps.
From a person who has seen the problems of ruling with fear it makes so much sense to me that Boba would want to rule by honor.
This show had great special effects and stunning visuals. I didn't like the Mods motorcycles. To me they looked like something that belongs in "The 5th Element" rather than Star Wars, but everything else was fine. This show's weakness is it's character development. It just seems as if there wasn't any significant effort given to making Boba Fett a character that we can understand and sympathize with. I take that as just poor writing. You can throw all the special effects that Lucasfilm and Disney have at a show, and it won't mean anything if ultimately you can't identify with the characters at all. This is why the two Mandalorian episodes were the best out of all seven. We understand Din Djarin and Grogo. We even understand the Armourer and Paz Visla. We know who they are. We know what their motivations are. We can easily identify with them. Boba Fett's motivations are unclear through most of the show, and so are Fennec Shand's. This show needed to let us really get to know those characters, so that we can identify with them, and really get behind them. Unfortunately, that just didn't happen at all. When the series ended, I was left wondering why they even made it at all. I feel as though their money would have been better spent on The Mandalorian Season 3.
The Mods didn't have motorbikes, they were based on scooters. Mods are based on a real life crowd of the same name and style from England.
Though I do agree I wasn't a fan of them either, just thought I'd say they weren't based on motorbikes.
I've gone back and rewatched the entire show again to see how it landed on a second viewing, because I also felt a little underwhelmed by the time it had all wrapped up.
I'm sure that the writers got together and reflected on how Boba Fett, cool as he is, is this traditionally one-dimensional character. Be a badass, do jobs, get paid. Mandalorian S2 did a good job showing us Fett is a little different than the last time we saw him. Sure, he was after his armor when he met Din Djarin, but he also honored his word and risked himself to help get Grogu back from the Empire. There was this honorable facet to the cold-hearted bounty hunter we were used to.
So I love the basic idea (we'll talk about the execution) of the show was to develop him as a character. Agree with ScreenCrush that the flashbacks should have just dominated the entire 7 episodes and we get to see how Boba emerging from the Sarlaac develops into this more honorable guy by the time he meets Din Djarin, or we should have left the entire narrative in the present and focused on why Boba Fett now wants to be the Daimyo of Tatooine and further develop him as not only a man of honor but a wise leader and ruler.
Instead, we get
1) Almost half of the show is flashbacks
2) The other half is the present where he is no longer developing as a character, basically just running out the clock til the inevitable showdown with the pikes
3) Complete pause on his story to do 2 episodes of Mandalorian.
Honestly it's kind of ironic that even in bringing Boba Fett back from the dead, he ends up being a side character in his own series. Hopefully they let a good writer do a comic or book series that continues his story and does the character more justice.
it was amazing ,like at this point everyone wants a perfect show,they did fan service at its glory ,imagine all the people working to make something cool ,to some adults complaining ,yes is an opinion ,but super personal opinion ,i would love to see some credentianls on the people reviewing like have you developt any character? have you writen any scripts? have you work on some tv production? like ask a 15 year old a 25 y old , thats who they show is for really ,thats why lucas left ,and on some years feloni would cause all of this obsession to glorify the bad and not the good
No, they're too busy thinking Disney should consult them on every single issue because the franchise was built for them personally.
i have to disagree the fact that you say its not structured properly and its all over the place is what i love about this series they did something DIFFERENT and succeded do penalize them for doing something different while still remaining true to star wars
I guess it’s the 3rd “book” in the Mandalorian series, that just happens to be called the Book of Boba Fett. It answers a few questions we had on his survival and his redemption or transformation into a protagonist. He was a villain, but he did follow a moral code. The underlying purpose was to make him a good guy, but now he is in charge of a faction of the underworld, which is likely a theme going forward for Star Wars in this era or timeline.
These three people hit the nail on the head. The Book of Boba Fett had many great moments but it should of focused solely on Boba Fett's story after he escaped the Sarlacc Pit. As much as I loved the 2 episodes with Mando, I think they should have saved those for Mandalorian season 3.
Sure have him show up to help Boba but they could have shown him no longer having the Beskar spear and there's only hints about what's going on in his life through the dialogue. In essence, these would act as teasers for Mando season 3 while still keeping the focus on what's going on with Boba. It's okay to bring in a character from another series with only a small explanation what he's been up to since we all know his story will be explored further later on. It would actually be more intriguing to have to wait until his side of things is shown in HIS show.
I also can't get over how Boba Fett recruited all these minions to flesh out his "criminal empire" and then the show literally never explores these characters at all. I'm not even sure any of the Moders' names were ever spoken. They are paradoxically both cannon fodder and have plot armor at the same time.
100% agree with Matt on every statement he has here. 🔥
I’m kind of surprised they didn’t take the opportunity to give Boba a live-action flashback story from his childhood interactions with Bossk, Aurra, Asajj, Dengar, and more to explain his transformation into the seemingly more solitary and uncompromising ESB Boba, then evolve again into the seemingly ‘nice’ Boba of ‘the Mandalorian’.
This was a unique storytelling strategy.
It required people to set aside “expectations” and follow the journey. Sometimes not knowing “Why?” is meant to be apart of the journey. We are so used to making inferences and catching easter eggs, that I can understand the frustration. But this is real life, people don’t always know why others are making certain moves, but rather their intentions.
This is the absolute best channel for all the reasons. Most of all Doug lol... You care and it shows. Well spoken, well done.
The Book of bobba was fan service and I loved it. The story was weird but I enjoyed it. I think the slow pace and weird story just served to string us along with questions of why
Me: So, The Book of Boba Fett is pretty polarizing with many fans loving it and many fans hating it. What are you're thoughts ScreenCrush?
Ryan Arey: I'm playing both sides, so that way I always come out on top.
As "weird" as it was, it's still a whole lot better the the sequel trilogy
Flashback show us how he made the change. Experiencing a tribe, wanting his own tribe. Which ties ogether at the end with him killing the blue cowboy. He is more complete now, it shows it gave him even more power in kind of a symbolic way.
Really it is not just the end. It made me understand his motive. And sure I also hated parts of it. But I am kind of amazed this is an argument.
FFS, why overthink? Just enjoy, its a great time to be alive with all these star wars stuff.
the flashbacks with the sand people clearly were related to his motivation
I loved it all. There were strange narrative choices but it was so much fun. Loved it.
Why can’t you just enjoy the show for what it is? If they didn’t put the flashbacks in the first few episodes then you would complain why didn’t they explain how he got out of the Sarlacc pit? SMH 🤦
I think the Mando-centric episodes made a lot more sense once we saw the season finale. Those episodes had to position Din and Grogu so they were where they needed to be to participate in the finale. Could they have not included Grogu and just had Din fight alongside Boba? Sure and it would not have needed two episodes of story time to make it happen. We could have caught up with Grogu and Luke at the beginning of The Mandalorian season 3, giving Grogu a little more training time. Perhaps we could have had some sort of Mando Christmas special prior to The Book of Boba Fett, where that character positioning could have been done without it eating into Boba’s storyline.
13:25 I grew up in a mafia-run neighborhood here in Italy. When the new boss came in in the early 90s he was absolutely fixated on being liked. He was very concerned about what his reputation and good standing was. And this guy came from the streets, he was a cold blooded sicario. But when he came in he was sort of acting like he was the benevolent father, a good man with honest principles. To someone from outside the criminal-run area it would seem weird, but it actually makes sense.
This was the best video I’ve seen explaining the experience of watching the Book of Boba Fett.
he watched his father die and be powerless to help him. maybe he realized that real strength is found in a group.
I've always hoped my 2 kids would get into star wars but they didn't really until the Mandalorian which they loved. They actually preferred TBOBF and couldn't wait to watch it each week. That's good enough for me and it's great to see kids loving star wars again.
That spin move felt like Robert Rodriguez wanted to throw in his Desperado shoot-out moves
"...or we could wander into the mystical night air and look up in perfect silence at the [Star Wars*]"
I loved the show… I enjoyed it for what it was, not what my imagination might dream up…. I mean… come on… it’s boba fett! 😉❤️👍🏻
Fett needs bounty hunting explained to him: "I have money ..." "Money can BUY muscle ..." WTH? Boba Fett is this galaxy's definitive bounty hunter and HE DOESN'T KNOW money buys muscle??? THAT'S what bounty hunting is! lol
They keep mentioning episode 4 being a drastic improvement for a reason. The show got better because Robert Rodriguez seemingly got out of the way until the end. The show would have been much more consistent and had much higher quality pacing if Filoni or Faverau were directing, or BDH or Waititi. If more people told RR 'no' more often we would have a very different series and discussion. It feels like they misunderstood why his movies consistently fail until they're picked up by rabid fandom, you can't just smash things named 'cult classics' together and assume they'll work.
I'm glad none of the discussion anywhere I've seen ever talks badly about Morrison's acting though. Dude killed it and brought a real sense of deliberate honor to a revered character. He's one of the best parts of the entire franchise for a reason, and I hope he's able to show more of that off in the next seasons.
I think it would have been interesting if they did it in chronological order but with a twist. Episodes 1-2 is Boba escaping from the sarlac and living with the Tuskans. Episodes 3-4 are the Mandalorian 2.5 ones. Episode 5 starts with Boba explaining how his experience with the Tuskans made him want to give up bounty hunting and build a tribe. Then it (and the next few episodes) goes into each ally as they're forced to come before Boba, ending with them joining him. That all leads to the finale where they join forces against the pikes.
The Book of Blades of Grass and I'd be happy, Ryan. Well done for bringing it all together as I knew you would.
It was fine. The structure could be improved, but it doesn't matter at all. A bunch of story was told that was supposed to be told, regardless of the order or the showcase.
Ryan, You answered your own question. It’s live action Star Wars! NO ONE thought they’d ever see that. It’s one of the main complaints about SW fans. They all overthink it. In the final of the Mandalorian, everyone focused on the CGI de-aged Luke. Who cares?!?? It was Luke freakin Skywalker! Just enjoy it.
This AF!
I give the overall series a 7.5/10, my favorite episode is episode 2. the finale was filled with action which was epic, and gave me many vibes. It is also the first series i have ever watched live, basically the first ever series to come out after i became a huge star wars fan and actually got into star wars.
I give 6.5 mainly how passive boba was in this and how the show focused on mando more in the end
Did you watch the Mandalorian?
Episode 2 was definitely the best episode
"Overthinking is all I have time to do." is one of the greatest statements I have ever heard. Kudos.
Personal head canon. Boba's big personality change is having his mind intertwined with the consciousness of the Sarlacc and everyone in there from all of the different factions on Tatooine. I definitely wish the people in the town got much more time like you said.
Also, let's be real. the last like 3 episodes were basically The Mandalorian Season 2.5
It was better than the last two trilogies so I am satisfied. The Mandalorian is the TV series bar. It fell short of that but I didn’t hate it.
I can't believe Peacemaker And Boba Fett both got tv shows about them as anti-heroes on the path of self-discovery after nearly dying. Unfortunately, Boba became a Care-bear crime lord that was barely in his own show with nothing to do. Peacemaker show kept the title character the star and made me care about the people on his team. After watching all of book of boba fett im not even sure what he wanted to accomplish? briefly take over as crimelord who won't do crime, sell spice or even offer protection. Boba the only thing you lived up to is your reputation of looking cool while doing next to nothing. I love Star Wars and boba but damn the best episodes of his show he is not even in.
These breakdowns are really good! I love the fact that the star wars universe is even worth this type of conversation!
It feels like it was written to fill holes for upcoming movies and series. Some committee of Lucasfilm production stakeholders wrote up a specification document, and then it was handed off to the writing interns to mash it together. It's best to just appreciate it as an extended medley, and leave it at that.
It wasnt writing interns though. the writers, directors and showrunners all have their names on the show, and theyre typically quite good. There were good things in the show, but it was muddled, unfocused
I enjoyed the show and always invested more in the character of Boba Fett than his screen time warranted. I thought the flashbacks were fine. Personally, flashbacks break up the flow of the story and introduce a new story line and detail aspects of the character, which I like. Considering it was a character from a movie 30 years ago who only had 3 spoken lines I thought they successfully created a story that not only dovetailed into the original movie, but it also explained how and why the character had evolved, picking up most of the content regarding the character in animated shows, books and comics.
Additionally, they went into depth on a lot of "new" things. The Mod Kids street gang on the bikes. More storyline involving the Tuskans. And more Rancor.
Not every new Star Wars story is going to be "Luke Returns." I give it two thumbs up.
This episode of Screen Crush needed more Doug.
“Whackety Smackers” should replace Dank Ferrick as a curse word lol
The show is so transparent in how it was reverse engineered. The writers seem to know what makes Star Wars cool (like more details about Tusken culture and when the “city” mods meet the country folk) and inject it from time, but none of it is very fleshed out.
I also think they just used it to get money to lay pipe for Mandalorean season 3. They weren’t getting 2 more episodes out of season 2, so they ran a bait and switch to get Disney to drop cash on another series that they then just cannibalized for a between seasons mandalorean special.
Dude, you are putting in the work with this great video, keep it up!
I still liked the take that Boba Fett was the true villain of the show.
I think the big reason a chronological approach would have been hard is because the events of the Mandalorian fall right in the middle of the timeline. Would they tell up to the moment of Boba meeting Din and then skip? or rehash that mid section? The hop over to Mando 2.5 felt like a mix of contractual obligations to certain actors and a desire to set up Mando 3. They could easily have done Grogu’s choice and Din’s excommunication at the beginning of the next show but probably want to go straight to Mandalore. I thought the Tusken arc was one of the more compelling pieces and wanted Boba to be a Tusken-backed Daimyo. Introduce some of Tatooine’s ultimate outcasts to city life. Instead, they fridged the tribe to give Boba his motivation in a can.
When I think of crime bosses in the hood, being nice to local folks… I can come up with a lot of fictional & a few real life examples. I guess most folks aren’t willing to understand how crime works. For poor folks with little opportunity, crime is a logical choice. Folks have to eat & live. People like nice things. It’s a nuance that seems to be missed by a lot of people. Star Wars allows for characters to be more than 2 dimensional. I’m closing, Star Wars fans feel like they have everything figured out within the first five mins of an episode. I enjoy the curveballs mixed in with the fast balls. I love the direction the Star Wars narrative is heading (beyond the Skywalker legacy). Pull back on the zoom folks & enjoy the view.
By the way, I love your show. And share them with friends all of the time. Keep rising! Doug is awesome 🤩
STAR WARS NERDS BEING CONFUSED IS THE WHOLE GENIUS OF ALL OF THIS. STOP CARING SO MUCH YOU DAFT PEOPLE
Great analysis Ryan. I agree 100%. It was all over the place. Yet I still loved a lot that they did. They need to create a season 2, taking into consideration the fans constructive criticism.
They should've showed The Sarlacc Pit compressing Boba Fett. That would've helped to explain why he lost a foot of height from the original trilogy.
He's a literal clone of Jango Fett.
@@MrBazBake You missed my point. The original actor that played Boba Fett was over 6’ tall. This actor is only 5’5”. And by original trilogy, I mean Episodes IV, V, an VI. Visually, his screen presence isn’t as big, making him feel less threatening.
The smart thing to have done would have been showing one pre-RotJ bounty mission that established Boba as cold and ruthless with the cracks starting to appear. Maybe he kills a partner or breaks up a family-the job starts to get to him-and his boss thinks nothing of the event at all. That plus a near death experience in the sarlak pit might have been enough set up for an arc going forward.
I wish they would have flashed back further. Episode 1 is Boba frustrating Vader (awesome cameo) by disintegrating people as a ruthless loner. 2-3 episodes of escape and time with the Tuskins. Then 3-4 episodes in modern day, working out his search for a tribe, but his old life keeps trying to suck him back in
Entire show was a gem! Whoever wrote this title is a geek
I guess everybody would have happier with no boba fett show. Good times.
Ryan is looking extra hungover today! Woo hoo!
It shouldn’t be mutually exclusive to demystify the universe and still enjoy its wonder and be in awe of it.
Two thoughts.
1) They should have released the two Mandalorian episodes should have been released as a movie/special episode BEFORE Boba Fett came out. Just have it end as Djarin is approached by Fennec.
2.) If you’re not overly familiar with Mafia films or Machiavellian concepts, a lot of what Boba is doing will be lost. It’s not the viewers fault because it isn’t easily discerned. Ruling with love (respect) or fear is a major discussion in those media. It certainly could have been better explained and demonstrated
I was really hoping for a scene that went a little something like this
"Hello Alpha... I been looking for you a long time now my name is Omega"
...ArToo was to honour the many lives that were given not only to see that the plans to the ultimate weapon were secured but that they were delivered safely to Rebel Command (that right there is a Bond film)...in the end it was what aided Luke to destroy the Death Star...how he became involved in the assault...is a story...best kept for another time...
It felt like something was up with Pedro Pascal's schedule. Like he went to them and said, "hey, I'm pretty booked up with other projects next year and I don't think I can give you eight episodes. So they were like, "We have Boba Fett now! We'll throw something together real quick no problem! and then we'll put you into some episodes at the end when you can commit some of your time to filming." Something like that. If I were Pedro Pascal, I'd want to get on to some other projects anyway, one's that actually show my face most of the time I am working. Just a theory, but it's the only way I can make sense of how the season played out.
Honestly I think "The Book of Boba Fett" is merely a chapter in the Mandalorian saga.
The vibe I get from literally everybody about this show is that nobody wants to hate it, but we all do in some aspect. Something about it just wasnt right, but its not neccessarily that it failed to deliver most of what we would expect to see, just that the delivery was off the mark... or something. None of us can really explain that feeling.
There's a baby sarlacc in Galaxy's Edge and it's adorable.
From the beginning, Disney should have one anthology series called "Star Wars Stories" or something. It could have started with a 4 episode Mandalorian introduction, then shifted to a standalone episode from the Old Republic, maybe another standalone about Baby Dengar, then shift into a few episodes of Obi -Wan, then crossover into the Boba Fett/Tuskin story, maybe go back to Mando for a standalone adventure. They wouldn't even need to split them into seasons, each story arc could be released throughout the year with breaks between.
Wow…. Instead of 1 guy endlessly repeating the same 3 points for 10 minutes it’s 3 people endlessly repeating the same 3 points for half an hour
Didn't yall watch "Clone Wars"??? The first 4 or 5 seasons all jump around & the storyline doesn't go into chronological order until the much later seasons. There literally is a website devoted to the correct order of Clone Wars. The out-of-order storytelling is Dave Filoni's style
While it was far from perfect, I think this show was much better than it gets credit for. People/channels seem to be hating this series just because it makes them feel like “bigger fans”. Nerd hubris runs rampant in the Star Wars community and fans love to think they know more about the characters than Dave Filoni himself… or just to get views.
None of my complaints about the show were around the 'correctness' of the characters as I see them or would like to see them. In fact, I'd be more frustrated if I wasn't as familiar with some of these characters because there is very little character development outside of the Tusken flashbacks, and the Din/Grogu story that really belongs in it's own show.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it more than anything from the sequel trilogy. But I don't think it's a far better show than it gets credit for. I think the credit it gets is surrounding the fanservice it contains, not the actual story it tells and that's appropriate. The present day Tatooine story was boring as shit, and I'm not trying to prop up a youtube channel or claim to be king shit Star Wars expert.
It was too short and the story was told in a weird disjointed way. I liked it alot but I just felt cheated for content
I agree with your comments around 16 min in, Ryan. I'm comfortable with the character growth being that his time with the Tusken tribe, and his moments reflecting on how his father died, led him to want to have a tribe of his own. They didn't seem to put enough work into showing that he wasn't just remembering and experiencing those things, though. We needed to see that they were influencing his decisions and personality. Things like him having opportunities to succeed via his old ways, alone and ruthless, but showing him choose to take a more difficult route because he values the goal of building a solid tribe. Hell, maybe after killing Bane he could've had a chance to reflect on it and tell somebody "That's the road I was on. I would've died alone on a distant planet, with no impact other than the lives I've taken."
I love how the unicorn footage was from Legend
I really like your takes on starwars stuff, I watch quite a few starwars channels and I believe you are one of the best as you are a fan but also can look at things from a different angle
We can all agree the best parts were of grogu and mando
Naw, best parts were the Tusken flashbacks...