EG4 Inverter Review! 6500EX vs Growatt Key Differences!
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As with other comments, I also have two of these EG4s waiting to be installed before winter. Great tips and nice layout! I've enjoyed your additional information to Mr. Prowse and Mr. Poz as a solid solar resource. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Nicely done! Thank you. I’m in the process of figuring out my own system. Your video is perfect.
Let me know if I can help.
Excellent video! I’m in the planning phase for my system and I’m including your videos with the other solar gurus like Will.
I appreciate that.
Nicely and neatly done, great job
Thank you
Great video and channel! I was down at Signature Solar picking up some batteries and they told me about your channel. I'm just now starting the off-grid process so it's fun to see others in the area who've done it.
I'm curious how close we are. I think you said you're an hour from SS. We are too - just outside Tyler.
Thank you. I appreciate it. It was nice of them to mention our channel to you. We are near Tyler as well.
@@CountryLivingExperience small world :)
Great video. Just in time for me! 😃 We have the same inverters and batteries waiting to be installed. We will start the installation in about 3 weeks so hurry up with the next one🤣🤣, will follow your links for the misc equipment that we will need. Thanks
Thank you. I am working on the next one as we speak....lol.
Thanks for sharing. Very informative. Cant wait to get ours going.
Glad it was helpful!
Enjoy the video. I am working on a similar project with the same hardware. I am very interested to see your videos on how you do your well. That will be my next big project and I'm not sure how I'm going to tackle it. I live in the country, about an hour from the nearest grocery store. So projects like this are right up my alley. Looking forward to future videos. Thanks and Howdy from Colorado.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Hey Man! I’m Peyton from Signature Solar, your videos are killer!
We appreciate your support!
Thank you Peyton. I appreciate it.
Looking forward to your next video also
Glad to see you are n the minority that received working product from signature solar. These EG4 inverters are getting a lot attention on youtube lately. Because so many of them fail or simply don't work. Tech support is awful and the return process even worse.
It would be nice if you folks with popular YT channels disclosed any and all financial ties at the beginning of the video.
What is the distance between the top mounting holes on the EG4 inverter? Thanks!
I have heard others say that the LV6548 inverters do not have the UL1741 compliance and that is a misunderstanding. Per MPP solar's website: UL1741 compliance (TUV certified) for US markets. I canalso confirm this ( I have two of them).
Very well explained video, and nice to have everything matching as well! Awesome amount of battery backup!! Love the setup
Thank you and thanks for the heads up.
EG4 just released their 6500W split phase inverter, so you no longer need to buy two units to get 240v.
that comment shocked me as I just ordered the new inverter. i can't afford another 1300 right now so sure hope he's wrong
It's the eg4 6000ex
Nice video! Can't wait for the next one. Where can I find the chart for wire size and current flow? THANKS!
Thank you. I released the new video this morning actually. As for the chart, I just googled "breaker size chart" in images and found that one which was the clearest and most comprehensive example. Here is one: afe.solutions/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/DC_wire_selection_chartlg.jpg
8.28.22 Very informative video. Thanks for making it.
You’re welcome
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to part 2. Just curious, how long did it take for the inverters to be delivered after you placed the order?
You're welcome. They arrived in less than a week but I live only a few hours away from Signature Solar.
@@CountryLivingExperience Thanks. Forgot about that. I remember you mentioning that in one of your Growatt setup videos.
Wish we could get the EG4 here in the UK!
Instead of crimping the thing on the ends of the wire can you use solder
Well done, thanks!
My pleasure!
I’m taking credit for you getting the EG4’s. You remember my rude comment on one of your other videos asking why you didn’t use it to start with,Growatt is good but the high voltage/watt input makes the EG4 surperior.
Hey,they have a new 6500watt that’s 220-240 output all in one box. I’m getting that one. I only need a little juice at cabin.
Lol, ok. I don't remember the comment.
That new EG46000 HV split phase looks awesome and will be great for some applications like your cabin for sure.
The 70 amp breaker you used for the panel to panel hookup shouldn't it be a 60?
Thanks for the system overview! Regarding the voltage drop, I believe the table you're referencing is for DC circuits only. 52' of 4AWG at 120Vac, 55Amps should give you about a 1.4% voltage drop 🙂.
You're welcome.
Thanks for the thoughts on the voltage drop. How did did you calculate only a 1.4% drop?
@@CountryLivingExperience I believe you calculated your voltage drop at 48 volts. If that is the case, your voltage drop would be ~3.7%. However, at 120v your drop is only ~1.5%. The higher the voltage, the less voltage drop you get with distance. Hence the reason transmission lines run into the hundreds of thousands of volts and can run hundreds of miles with minimal voltage drop.
OHHH, you said 10%! I think you are calculating for 12v. 12v at 52ft would be 10.23%, using 4awg cable running at a full 55 amps. I would not use that chart you are using for any AC work...or any dc work higher than 12v.
@@cryoman6242 Interesting. Thanks.
Nice job
Thank you
Great video, lots of good tips. Liked!
Using black and red in a 48V system makes me cringe a little though.
Thank you.
Why does using the two colors make you cringe?
@@CountryLivingExperience I’m sorry, I cut that short and didn’t really give any context. I do DC wiring in data centers and it’s all negative 48V systems. The standard there is red and blue (for A and B feeds) with white tracers on the return. But that’s only for negative voltage systems, so it’s not like you are doing anything wrong. I’m just not used to seeing battery banks hooked up with those colors.
On an unrelated note have you used the new EG4s in a AC pass through mode yet? I haven’t found any videos of that being done yet, which is what I’m hoping to use them for.
Ah, I understand.
I won't be using the AC pass through for my system. I want to remain off-grid using it like a generator. Try Ian's Solar Projects. He may do it with some MPP inverters.
The MPP LV6548 is also UL 1741, if you look on the side of it you can find the sticker. The piece of metal that hooks to the battery inputs is needed to keep it UL certified. The only difference I've been able to find between the MPP and the EG4 is the EG4 can do almost twice the PV voltage. Other than that, they seem to be almost identical.
My lights Blink when I use infared cook top. Any one know where which light to replace so it will stop blinks like this please tell me which type of lights and where to buy them, thanks a lot.
Very helpful! Thxs. Do you have the link to the wire way?
You're welcome. This is similar to the one we have.....amzn.to/3VmkPpO
Do you have to use a sub -panel before connecting to your main house AC panel for an off-grid property? I bought a 200amp AC panel for a new build that has a built in 200amp breaker shut-off I was just going to connect L1 & L2 from a bank of 4 EG4 inverters, two each dedicated to L1 & L2...
You don't have to but you cannot bring power in from the inverter on a 200A breaker. 60 to 70A is recommended.
I get mine next week
Awesome
Why do you use 70 amp breakers in your breaker boxes? Wouldn't you want at least 100amp? Sorry still learning. Love the videos!
100A would be too big. 60 or 70A is sized correctly for the 4awg wire size.
Hey there. I really enjoy your videos in the past. One suggestion though. When I’m looking at all the videos in my feed, your name is so long that I do not know if I’m seeing a video from 3 hours ago or 3 years ago bc your name takes up almost all the space. Not sure if there’s anything you want or can do about it (or perhaps I can do in my settings) but just wanted to point it out to you.
Thanks fr the heads up. I have control over how long my channel name is but not how you see it. It really depends on the device you are watching it on. I can't really change my name at this point because that is how people recognize me. I release videos every week. If you can, just head over to my channel page to see all of the videos in order of release.
I do believe it is 25 ft but then again my solar is 15 ft from the chargers and the father surprise ever be is 30 ft but that might be in the center of the road so 25 ft might be better or maybe 20 feet.
On the 6500's which Im looking at, can I pull off the grid when needed yet have the luxury off the solars
Yes, absolutely. I just chose not to install the grid assist on mine because I am taking the house completely off-grid (soon).
I’m really new to the whole solar/ alt energy thing so I might be missing something but why not buy the 12k split phase Growatt inverter and save some money?
You would only save $200. Additionally you the EG4 will accept 8000w of PV and its max operating MPPT voltage is 500 VDC. That is just for 1 inverter so you need to double those numbers because you will have 2 EG4 inverters.
The Growatt 12k will only accept 7000w of PV and 240 VDC for its MPPT.
I'm going to be getting a 13kwh setup like you have, which solar panels do you recommend? I will be going with ground mount and plan to expand to 26kwh when I can afford to.
I really like the SolarEver panels that I got from Signature Solar. They produce so well even in low light and they are an American company. This is the direct link for them...signaturesolar.com/solarever-455w-split-cell-mono-solar-panel/?ref=countrylivingexperience. I am going to pick up 10 more very soon for our barn solar project.
I have two 5 month old EG4 6500EX for sale if someone could point me in the right direction on where to post. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Selling super cheap.
Can you tap off of your 220 and make a dedicated 120v subpanel thus waiving the need for an extra inverter or step down transforner?
No, you cannot.
@@CountryLivingExperience thanks. Btw, have you ever created a 120v recepticle from a 220 recepticle?
I see EG4 came out with Split Phase 120/240VAC 6k inverters
They did.
what's your experience like now that you've had these for a few months? also, are you using these EG4 6500EX inverters completely offgrid or are you using the grid as your power backup?
They work great. I have had no issues with lack of power or anything else. I use them off-grid.
Curious why you chose a 70 amp breaker?
Appropriate for the wire size, distance, and current of the inverters.
@@CountryLivingExperience I don’t think there is necessarily a down side to it. The inverters can only output around 54 amps I think. But I suppose the larger breaker could help account for a surge if needed.
Electric EMP sealed for your circuit breaker on your home--proof
Was the problem with the random eg4's solar charge controller burning and smoking ever figured out?
Ummm, I didn't know that was an issue. Where did you hear that?
Can the batteries be charged from a a/c receptacle, instead of solar panels? I just want back-up not off grid.
Yes. With that battery charger.
Curious to see what just 2 of them will power without issue. I have 2 on backorder and thinking I might need a 3rd. I have 4 of the mpp 5k 240V units now that I'm having trouble getting going. My transformer shuts down after a few minutes after I turn an inverter on
Last night I did a quick load test. I ran our 3-ton whole house air conditioning, 1 burner on the electric stove, most of the lights in the house, a small 5000btu window air conditioner, and the water heater kicked on. It handled it with no problem. Used about 70% of each inverters power output.
@@CountryLivingExperience that's pretty good. When I had 2 5ks that were a Sorotec brand sometimes I'd have them beeping because they were overloaded. I'd go check and between the 2 of em they were putting out 15kw. Lol I have 2 shops plus a 2500 sqft house to power. I don't know how 2 of these EG4 would handle a stick welder.
Not sure about the welder with just 2. You would probably need 4 of them for your property as a whole.
Can you do a video of yor system running your well pump. Cant find any good videos and my system isn't quite big enough to run mine yet.
It may take me a bit to get to it but I absolutely will.
@@CountryLivingExperience awesome thank you so much
I was disappointed to find out that these inverters wont work for me because im building at 9500’ above sea level and these max out at 5000’
. Looks like my options are sol ark, Schneider
Unfortunately not all of them work for everybody.
QUESTION: Why did you buy 7 each EG-LL batteries vs buying 1 EG-LL and 6 EG4 LifePower4 batteries?
They have a 10yr warranty instead of a 5yr and have the individual readouts on each. No point in buying just 1 LL.
Did you say you had a generator to be hooked up to your EG4 inverter? I have not seen from anyone at this point include a generator system as back up power to the EG4 inverter. Can you expand on this? Thanks!
I do not have a generator connected to them. I use my solar system like a generator. I still have grid power but switch to these when I need or want to. I also have a small gas generator to emergency charge my batteries in case of a prolonged storm.
Per signature solar they don't recommend hooking up a generator directly to their inverters.
I am trying to put a solar in a small house that. is 320 square ft how much solar would i need
It depends on what loads are in the house.
I spoke to Signature Solar Technical support awhile back about the Nader breaker connected between the inverter and battery and they specifically told me that the line side must be connected to the battery. In your its connected in the opposite direction. Any opinion here?
Interesting. I'll look into it.
Just spoke to them. That is correct. I need to flip mine.
I've been waiting weeks to hear back from tech support.
I want to get the EG4 6500 but I have a concern, it show the max amp per mppt is 18a, I have 16 qcell used panels that are 45.30 Voc and 10.77a . I want to setup a 5s2p on one Pv1 and another 5 panel in series on the Pv2. I am worried that the 21.54amp on Pv1 might be too much for this inverter. Any Advice ?
Split them equally 8 and 8 in 2 series strings. Also, won't you have 2 inverters?
@@CountryLivingExperience I will only have 1 Ex6500 inverter with the 2 PV inputs.
You'll need another inverter to make 240v for your larger loads. Do you have a water heater, stove, well pump, etc connected in your home?
My lights Blink when I use infared cook top. Any one know where which light to replace so it will stop blinks like this please tell me which type of lights and where to buy them, thanks a lot.
That could be an imbalance in your system in your main electrical panel.
Hey, what busbar was used? I didn't see a link in the description to that
This is the one we used....amzn.to/3R3bSzs Pike Industries
@@CountryLivingExperience 👍🏽 appreciate it. Thanks!
Greetings from Tennessee! I noticed that your video is 11 momths old, just curious what your thoughts are on these EG4, I've seen other videos where they do not recommend using these, so i just wanted to get your feedback. Thanks 👍
They do a great job at running everything I need them to run. They did have a slight issue with one of the control chips recently but have worked it out with a software update. They are new and still working a few bugs out.
@@CountryLivingExperience Awesome, thank you, I've got some property that we're going to be building on and it's going to be off-grid so I'm trying to do some research on solar.
You’re welcome. We have done videos on the Growatt brand inverters and are in the process of installing a Victron system for our well and barn.
Hello:
I have 16 model: 3.2 v 280 Ah batteries along with “Overkill Solar” battery management system. I have cut the wood that I will be using to construct the bottom of my wooden frame to hold all 16 batteries. I would like to purchase battery tape to provide support to all 16 batteries and to secure the battery terminals.
After I’ve connected each one of the BMS leads to the positive terminals which includes the black lead to the negative terminal and the red lead to the positive terminal, I’m not sure what battery wires and devices should I use to connect two Growatts 3,000 kilo watt inverters to the 16 batteries.
Would you do a video on this or provide an answer on this?
Regards,
Gabriel L.
Sorry, I only have this equipment and do not build my own batteries. I don't know how to help you.
@@CountryLivingExperience Okay thanks.
Now you get yourself for real easy for 6548 watt inverter that can handle 8,000 Watts input 500 volts that's what I want to get I don't have the money yet don't have the solar panels yet but I do have some sort of house it's not enough for the eg4 inverter. No you just got to get some more solar panels for the easy for. Of course they're also certified so they'll pass electric inspection and then you're going to get up to good to sell electricity is a electric company. As long as you get electric permit.
How do you figure the Inverter size for amp hour battery
You need to figure out your loads in your house first. The average US household uses 1000kwh per month.
Curious. Prowse says that the EG4s are not truly UL certified and hence, he only recommends Sol-Ark. Will you have your system inspected or permitted or no? That's my main concern with the EG4s. Thx.
I did not hear him say that at all. Which video?
@@CountryLivingExperience I'll pull it for you. And send shortly
@@CountryLivingExperience m.th-cam.com/video/2kCIFHHbKwQ/w-d-xo.html
@@CountryLivingExperience He talks about how the LV6548 and EG4 both have the TUV third party certificate. I think he says some people pass and others don't so hard to know. So, he states around 1:33 that he is only going to recommend Sol Ark as it, in his view, "will always pass inspection if professionally installed." Who knows for sure in states outside of CA though.
If you look at the UL certification for the EG4 it is compliant for inspection. CA is in it's own strange world so who knows about that place. The EG4 will pass inspection unlike the LV6548. I am off-grid and in the countryside so I do not have any inspection that is needed. I have heard that Sol Arks are great but they are 3x more expensive. The new 15k is $8500.
Will these work With a grid tied system? Adding a battery charger.
These are off-grid inverters so they do not support selling power back to the grid if that’s what you mean. They do allow a grid connection that allows you to pass through to run your house or charge your battery from the grid. They have integrated battery chargers.
@@CountryLivingExperience
Don’t care about sell electric back. Thanks
@@kenjones5403 Sounds like these are the inverters for you.
I just Canceled my eg46500ex and purchased the eg46000ex I wanted the 120/240 vote they're not ul rated but I will be off grid you thoughts
They seem to be cool. I just saw them on the video only 2 days ago. I am sure they will be good. They weigh twice as much so keep that in mind.
Can you update how you like them. I'm interested in purchasing them as well
Sorry have not set mine up yet still gathering materials
Hello
I’ve noticed that signature Solar has moved away from promoting these inverters. What happened to this promising item?
They haven't as far as I know. They appear right on the front page of their website.
We ditched our 5000ES Growatts for EG4 6500’s. I’ve got two transformers if anyone is needing them.
Cool. Why did you switch?
@@CountryLivingExperience we had repeat failures with the Growatt. We swapped to EG4 and we’ve been rocking along perfectly now. Very happy with them.
Very cool. Good to know.
10:44 "this murder"
I have 3 brand new growatt 5000es. Still in the box. I ditched that plan and installed a solark 15k. Never looked back.
Why?
Solark cost 3x for same output. If you need to pass inspection the other inverters may not but they work fine.
Any info you could share about the solark would be great. Im on the fence with the eg4 6500 's or the solark. Cost isn't the hold up
@@CountryLivingExperience man i cant wait for your next video:)
I am a retired electrical engineer having worked in power generation all my career. I also did solar installs nearly full time but now that I am well past retirement I only do them for myself or friends.
Signature Solar used to be a good company to deal with but now they are just about impossible. I have called tech support, waited half an hour then put in my number for auto call back but never received them. I have sent emails but the responses are not helpful. I am not sure what is going on there but it is not good. You may wish to consider tech support availability.
The Sol-Ark is very expensive compared to the Growatts or the new 6500 eg4 however it is like comparing a Yugo to a Rolls. My personal unit is a Sol-Ark. When I would sell a system I always spent an hour or more going over the different panels but in particular the different inverters and battery banks so the customer could decide what fits their lifestyle and wallet the best. I was always happiest when someone choose Sol-Ark.
I do like and have had great luck with the eg4 48 vdc, 100 ah batteries and would have no problem buying more, but there are other batteries as good.
2 questions: A). Why do you need 4 inverters if I may ask? 6.5k x 4 = 26kw of power? That seems like a hotel load, not a regular house.. I fully understand why you’d want 100kwH of battery…. I just can’t see 4 inverters usage.? B). You went kind of quick when you removed your old wiring and box. But, I’d like to know how you combined your old system with the grid? There is no good videos on “mixing”. They always only show grid Vs solar input, But never showing when your house load is more than your solar line in. How can both exist simultaneously
Most large houses in the US could use 26kw if they are running all of their large loads at the same time. If you have another building like a barn or a well, that will add to the loads. That being said, 120v inverters must be used in pairs. You cannot have 3, only 2, 4, or 6. By mixing do you mean grid tied? My inverters will not do that. There are other inverters like Schnieders, etc.
Most home utility services are rated to allow a house to use 200amps at 240v which is 48kws doubt many people use that unless they try to but for normal daily life very unlikely so 24kws would be 100amps 240v or 100amps per 120v leg
I think I'm going to get the new eg4 6000 ex 48 hv
They just introduced it this week. Looks cool.
Would you have still picked the 6500ex over the 6000ex after seeing the specs?
I was recommended this over the 6500 from signature solar as well. Waiting on word back on why they recommended the 6k or the 6.5k when I need to buy 2 anyway for 12kw output. I'm trying to find what's the downside to the 6.5. you would only be gaining another kw. Maybe internal specs are better on the 6k?
@@VFio689 might make sure 6 k are ul listed not really seeing that I was thinking about them because it only took one to get 240 volt and 120
Will the 5000 run a 5 hp deep well pump?
Yes, it should.
Any thoughts on the SOL ARK 15K?
Extremely expensive. But I have heard they have good products. I have a friend with 2 of the 12k and he likes them.
@@CountryLivingExperience You are correct they are expensive however they are very well built and come with a 10 year warranty. The 12K had some minor issues when it came to running 120 but all those issues have been fixed with the latest 15K version. 12K weighs around 100 pounds idles around 65watts and the 15K weighs 130 idles at 100watts. The 15K cost around 8400 hundred. Expensive but so easy to wire and the customer service is superb. Currently the 15K is one of the best on the market. Love your videos excellent job.
Are you able to run that freeze dryer with the one EG4 with 48volts of battery?
Yes, no problem.
@@CountryLivingExperience I have 8 rolls 6 volt batteries. I have been running 12 volt system would you say that 49 volt is a better way to go?
48
I do think 48v is better. 48V systems run have a higher efficiency and use fewer amps, they can operate appliances more safely than lower voltage systems.
@@CountryLivingExperience thank you for your time I will keep you posted on the EG4 install!
can you use other types of batteries?
Absolutely. These inverters have settings for many batteries of all chemistries.
@@CountryLivingExperience
Just ordered 2 .. thanks seems they are back ordered... your video rocks!!!! thanks for making!!!
@@mikebergen3375 You're welcome. They are popular so they sell through them quickly.
Why do I need to run TWO EG4 6500-ex can I not just run 1?
They are 120v inverters. You need 2 to make 240v.
@@CountryLivingExperience BUT IF I DON;T WANT 240V CAN I JUST RUN 1?
@@gdegarimore Yes
Fyi...you probably need to stop saying that signature has never had any of the transformers go bad and shoot 240 volts everywhere. It happened to me. Cost me a dishwasher, some transformers and lights. That turned out to be rather expensive. If using a mid point transformer, make sure your 120 volts loads are well balanced.
You are the very first person I have heard of that happening. Glad you said something. Good advice on the balancing.
Here's a link Will Prowse short review of the Sol Ark 15 K th-cam.com/video/jOmOj0O_gkk/w-d-xo.html Looking forward to future video of his installation of this unit. Sol Ark office is base in Parker Texas within a 100 miles or so of Signature Solar.
I kind of like 2 gauge for some reason what you're about to do instead of 4 gauge I'd rather be safer.
2 gauge will not fit in the inverter terminals. 4 barely fits.
@@CountryLivingExperience that's not good I like to gauge over 4 gauge through all my batteries I use 4 gauge I know some of them inverters I have asked for one gauge so that one doesn't that 2 gauge go through okay.
I think you are misunderstanding. Battery cable is recommended as 2/0 gauge and fits. The AC wires are 4 gauge.
@@CountryLivingExperience that to bad I like being safe. But that's good to know thanks.
Im just seeing this particular video but i could never understand why ppl was buying these Growatt 240v inverters using transformers etc instead of simply buying & using 120v inverters it never made since to me I felt 240v Growatts was just a waist of time and money
The Growatt is not a waste of time. I liked them a lot in my home. They are perfectly fine and are just different type of setup. There are different types of systems for different situations and budgets.
@CountryLivingExperience I understand ur point just saying I've seen a lot of ppl use them then take them down only to replace them with 120v inverters & I kinda feel like why not go with 120v to began with I mean American homes are 120v Europe is 220v not being mean just something I never really understood why
@@diysolaradventures7894 I don't understand who is taking them down. I think they perform great. Like I said, it is another option for people to use that is just in a different configuration.
What's the transformer for
The transformer is for the Growatt inverters which are 240v. You need a transformer to split into 2 120v legs. I did a video on that here....th-cam.com/video/N-d3lCVUeyA/w-d-xo.html.
The EG4 inverters do not need an external transformer.
Don't you have to pull a permit to do all this?
Not where I live and not in it's specific configuration.
Is this in your house or another building
My house.
You must have bought these before they started selling the split phase.
I did but it is no problem. The new split phase are yet another option for varying needs and situations.
Go Green! Go White!
Crazy after 30 years of moving away from serial comms that there's still companies insisting on using a serial interface if you want a desktop connection to a device. If ethernet is an option it comes in the form of wireless and only supported by some stupid phone app. So you're either going to need to find a terminal server for a remote connection or yet again another cable to throw in the grab bag of a 1000 serial cables with their unique connector and pinouts for a local interface. Sheesh..............
Never mind me dude. Just 30 years of frustration boiling over. Rant cork popped again. hahaha
I found that funny too. Chinese still using serial cables on many of these inverters.
Utube sent your vid my way likely because of all the everything solar I've been digging into. Pretty sure I'll be using the EG4 equipment, single phase. 3000 or 6500 not decided yet. EG4 battery and about 3200pv. Building going up for maggot farming and chick hatching after the first of the year. I'll figure it out by then.
You put this in about a year ago, holding up pretty good for you? Seen far more good things about it than bad......
@@beebop9808 Awesome.
There was a small issue with one of the inverters "waking up" and charging when the sun hit the panels in the morning. It was replaced quickly. This 6500ex has been discontinued now and replaced with the 6000xp. I hope to be getting some soon and doing an install video (though the connections should be very similar).
Going to get cut sheets and manual. Get a handle on it before I get there. Think it was Prowse that mentioned some problems with the inverter they were having. Moving ahead with fixes and enhancements you would think. Hopefully.
@@beebop9808 I hadn't heard anything from Prowse in terms of problems on the 6000xp.
Downgrade to go back to 120V
I agree, dont know why would you go thru all that if all was working fine at 240v.
So weird...
220V is normal power in home... Wrong is to have 110V because you need double the Amps... That means you are lieing to people around the world...
Growatt 5000W price is $550-$600... And everything is working...
This is not right... You guys are really terrible...
More than likely you are not from the USA of North America. We use 110v here not 220v like Europe. Do not come on my channel and make ridiculous accusations when you don't know what you are talking about. Growatt in the US is $900.
Get yourself the correct information before you continue to make yourself look ridiculous and silly.
The Max VOC input rating for the EG4 is a little deceptive. It's 250VDC PER PV input. I can't be the only one who's noticed this, right? Thoughts?
As far as I know it is 500vdc total. I have one EG4 6500 with 485vdc on one PV input.
While it is an excellent product, this inverter is not "UL Listed." Rather it is tested to the UL1741 standard by a third party. This is an important distinction to make for commissioning. Here is a link to the Certification signaturesolar.com/content/documents/EG4/6500ex/EG4_6.5_tuv2.pdf. Will Prowse corrected that statement in a subsequent video.
Understood but still will pass inspections where it's main competitor the MPP lv6548 will not. I think many companies may use 3rd party testing.
Consider this comment from James Showalter on the Sol Ark..."Solark 15k spec sheet: Electronics Certified Safety by SGS Labs to NEC & UL Specs - NEC 690.4B & NEC 705.4/6. Most people don't Use UL for UL rating, solark has CEC and more UL ratings than EG4 for sure, but who does the testing does not matter as long as they are an NRTL (TUV, ETL, SGS, UL)"
Would that still make a difference with commissioning then? Depending on the State you are in?
UL 1741 stipulates testing standards for: Inverters, Converters, Controllers and Interconnection System Equipment for Use With Distributed Energy ResourcesUL Standard
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Standard 1741, Edition 3Edition Date: September 28, 2021
@@jcschwarb Think I may need to clarify my previous statement, I am not arguing what the UL 1741 standard denotes. I am simply stating a fact, the product is NOT UL "Listed" as stated in the video. A simple check in the UL database will confirm. However, the product has been tested by an OSHA accredited NRTL (www.osha.gov/nationally-recognized-testing-laboratory-program/current-list-of-nrtls) to ensure it meets the UL 1741 standard, the certificate is linked in my original post. Whether or not any product is acceptable, UL Listed or not, depends upon the governing body (e.g., California Energy Commission) for their region. The consumer is better served by consulting with their governing body to ensure the equipment they plan to purchase is acceptable as well as their energy and insurance companies whenever / wherever applicable. Otherwise, they may find themselves having to eat the cost. BTW, I enjoy these videos so keep them coming.
Wanted to edit for clarity. I am a fan of the EG4 brand. Planning to use the new EG4 6000EX-48HV (three in parallel) for an off-grid installation (i.e., high inductive loads) with a 21.8kW array and 80kWh EG4 battery bank. My biggest challenge right now isn't regulatory. Rather, it is insurance. We are building on 22 acres in rural America.