thank you Nathan! I will later flash it back. First I want to have working the 8500 power mac and compare the voodoo 3 against other cards that where available for the power mac. that was my first goal for this video but it didn't worked out as I planned.
@@cyberluke yes it does work on the power mac 8500. the only issue is that its still with the original processor. most likely I need to upgrade in order to play more demanding game like UT99. Does run descent 3 slugish so far.
@@theObsoleteTechie Perfect, I am year 1987, a long time PC master race, who just recently discovered Doom, Dark Forces and Prince of Persia was 640x480 there :-D mind blown. Tried emulators, not good enough. Spent one week on 2005 Powerbook G4 1.33GHz to hack 10.2.7 Jaguar. Got the best performance so far, will make a video about it. But two days ago, just acquired Powermac G3 - 266 Mhz and my mind was blown. Dark Forces runs even more smooth than the most smooth OS X with Classic environment. Also ordered Umax Pulsar from Germany (300 Eur including mouse and keyboard, hope my wife not reading this). I think I should get faster 604e CPU as well then. Very interesting to explore. Found a 1997 Steve Jobs video, where they compare G3 to Pentium II - 300 Mhz and blow it away. I need to explore what other PCI GPU drivers and bios support is there - Geforce 2 or Riva TNT2 PCI? I think Voodoo3 is better to use in PC for Glide and put something like Geforce 2 here.
@@cyberluke one the articles that I posted as reference show two other gpus one is the Ati 128 rage and the proformance 3. The Ati rage pro has better support from apple but the voodoo3 seem to be slightly faster (not better) since is using beta drivers theres alot of thinkering envolved with the system to get it right.
hi my quest for my voodoo 5 6000 pci how fit inside power g4 mmd? normal power mac g4 i have home now but now i wait my ordered power mac g4 dual 1.25 mdd and this i try put inside my quest drivers easy find a osx 10.4 ? and 2 a card size u know a voodoo 5 6000 not need explain from hard fit inside some pc thanks a forward answer :)
Wow! intersting. As far as the driver goes I don't know if they have drivers for 10.4. Please don't quote me on this but, I haven't come across any for the voodoo5 6000 driver from that time. I do know that they made voodoo5 6000 for macs and on falcon fly have drivers for it. I dont know if it includes the flashing bios for the card and the bios for it.(if your planning to flash pc version to a mac) The only one I've seen is from voodoo 4 4500 on xlr8yourmac and it says "mac os8.5 and higher". Although, mac os 10 came in to market at the beginning of 2001. I dont know if 3dfx had a chance of making drivers for it. There is of course a community that is making new cards and clone cards you might have more luck finding new drivers for what your looking. Hopefully I was able to answer question.😌
thanks i try this :) unfortunately voodoo 4 4500 only agp slot type have and same my voodoo 5 5500 a 5 6000 pci version have and same my voodoo 3 3000 pci version i try my mac coolections from how work very few my tower type desktop mac only one g4 quicsilver 1ghz and one blue white 450mhz g3 long time ago i see one think from somebody put one voodoo 3 3000 one mac g3 beige tower and this i try my molar mac molar mac a geige g3 tower mac imac version and now for try i good my voodoo 5 6000 os 9.2 try but i waiting my new order a g4 quick silver dual 1ghz from this more compatible a only install os 9.2
and my second quest this voodoo 3000 card i same wait my ordering from macintosh g3 moral mac how fits this? molar mac my favorite a first type imac g3 called geige g3 mac os9.2 a driver easy find this but molar mac how instal this a hard quest
The voodoo3 3000 pci does fit on the beige g3. About the molar mac there's a guy on youtube(action retro) that was able to get a video card working on the molar mac. Heres a link to the video: m.th-cam.com/video/ITQMM-ApNLI/w-d-xo.html Please let me know if you ever decide to make a video I would love to see this done for a voodoo3 3000.
my last quest forgoten it.s import i have another mac my coolection this called power macintosh 4400/200 this model point 5 day ago i ordered a normal pc compatible card 166mhz pentium normal htis mac model pc compatible card type and + one voodoo 2 my quest from this mac model me normal 8.0 mac os have i heard this model add a pc compaible card and soe normal pc vga try this dual drivering need combinated a mac os and windows a compaatible card here i instal this mac more win 3.1 win 95 and dos 6.22 combo i give you a big appluase from you know this right answer :) net not find this :P only know for combinate driver need create a mac os and win system from some pc vga card install like voodoo
@@daviddadut4620 If I understand right. Yes you can get a voodoo 2 card and have it working on a mac. You don't need to flash it like the voodoo3. You still going to need to get 2d portion of the output from another card using the pass thru cable to the voodoo2 card (its the same as a pc). The only thing you need to do is dump the drivers in the extension folder. And you're ready to game on the mac. Im not quite sure what you are referring about windows 3.1 or 95. Remember that macs have a different way of installing drivers they had extension. So, not sure if this answers your question. Here is a link to LGR video talking about installing a voodoo2 in a mac 6400/180 maybe it can explain better what im talking about. LGR: m.th-cam.com/video/mUlCkH5v938/w-d-xo.html
thanks the answer :) and yes if mac a model type like 6100/66 it.s model have 486 dx 2 compatible card or 4400/200 model a pentium 166mhz compatible card model a bridge program modifiering more easy install a voodoo
Thanks for the video! At least flashing is a reversible process if you ever changed your mind.
thank you Nathan! I will later flash it back. First I want to have working the 8500 power mac and compare the voodoo 3 against other cards that where available for the power mac. that was my first goal for this video but it didn't worked out as I planned.
@@theObsoleteTechie so does it work on PowerMac 8500 or not? I want to try it on PowerMac G3.
@@cyberluke yes it does work on the power mac 8500. the only issue is that its still with the original processor. most likely I need to upgrade in order to play more demanding game like UT99. Does run descent 3 slugish so far.
@@theObsoleteTechie Perfect, I am year 1987, a long time PC master race, who just recently discovered Doom, Dark Forces and Prince of Persia was 640x480 there :-D mind blown. Tried emulators, not good enough. Spent one week on 2005 Powerbook G4 1.33GHz to hack 10.2.7 Jaguar. Got the best performance so far, will make a video about it. But two days ago, just acquired Powermac G3 - 266 Mhz and my mind was blown. Dark Forces runs even more smooth than the most smooth OS X with Classic environment. Also ordered Umax Pulsar from Germany (300 Eur including mouse and keyboard, hope my wife not reading this). I think I should get faster 604e CPU as well then. Very interesting to explore. Found a 1997 Steve Jobs video, where they compare G3 to Pentium II - 300 Mhz and blow it away. I need to explore what other PCI GPU drivers and bios support is there - Geforce 2 or Riva TNT2 PCI? I think Voodoo3 is better to use in PC for Glide and put something like Geforce 2 here.
@@cyberluke one the articles that I posted as reference show two other gpus one is the Ati 128 rage and the proformance 3. The Ati rage pro has better support from apple but the voodoo3 seem to be slightly faster (not better) since is using beta drivers theres alot of thinkering envolved with the system to get it right.
hi my quest for my voodoo 5 6000 pci how fit inside power g4 mmd? normal power mac g4 i have home now but now i wait my ordered power mac g4 dual 1.25 mdd and this i try put inside my quest drivers easy find a osx 10.4 ? and 2 a card size u know a voodoo 5 6000 not need explain from hard fit inside some pc thanks a forward answer :)
Wow! intersting. As far as the driver goes I don't know if they have drivers for 10.4. Please don't quote me on this but, I haven't come across any for the voodoo5 6000 driver from that time. I do know that they made voodoo5 6000 for macs and on falcon fly have drivers for it. I dont know if it includes the flashing bios for the card and the bios for it.(if your planning to flash pc version to a mac) The only one I've seen is from voodoo 4 4500 on xlr8yourmac and it says "mac os8.5 and higher". Although, mac os 10 came in to market at the beginning of 2001. I dont know if 3dfx had a chance of making drivers for it. There is of course a community that is making new cards and clone cards you might have more luck finding new drivers for what your looking. Hopefully I was able to answer question.😌
thanks i try this :) unfortunately voodoo 4 4500 only agp slot type have and same my voodoo 5 5500 a 5 6000 pci version have and same my voodoo 3 3000 pci version i try my mac coolections from how work very few my tower type desktop mac only one g4 quicsilver 1ghz and one blue white 450mhz g3 long time ago i see one think from somebody put one voodoo 3 3000 one mac g3 beige tower and this i try my molar mac molar mac a geige g3 tower mac imac version and now for try i good my voodoo 5 6000 os 9.2 try but i waiting my new order a g4 quick silver dual 1ghz from this more compatible a only install os 9.2
and my second quest this voodoo 3000 card i same wait my ordering from macintosh g3 moral mac how fits this? molar mac my favorite a first type imac g3 called geige g3 mac os9.2 a driver easy find this but molar mac how instal this a hard quest
The voodoo3 3000 pci does fit on the beige g3. About the molar mac there's a guy on youtube(action retro) that was able to get a video card working on the molar mac. Heres a link to the video: m.th-cam.com/video/ITQMM-ApNLI/w-d-xo.html
Please let me know if you ever decide to make a video I would love to see this done for a voodoo3 3000.
my last quest forgoten it.s import i have another mac my coolection this called power macintosh 4400/200 this model point 5 day ago i ordered a normal pc compatible card 166mhz pentium normal htis mac model pc compatible card type and + one voodoo 2 my quest from this mac model me normal 8.0 mac os have i heard this model add a pc compaible card and soe normal pc vga try this dual drivering need combinated a mac os and windows a compaatible card here i instal this mac more win 3.1 win 95 and dos 6.22 combo i give you a big appluase from you know this right answer :) net not find this :P only know for combinate driver need create a mac os and win system from some pc vga card install like voodoo
@@daviddadut4620 If I understand right. Yes you can get a voodoo 2 card and have it working on a mac. You don't need to flash it like the voodoo3. You still going to need to get 2d portion of the output from another card using the pass thru cable to the voodoo2 card (its the same as a pc). The only thing you need to do is dump the drivers in the extension folder. And you're ready to game on the mac. Im not quite sure what you are referring about windows 3.1 or 95. Remember that macs have a different way of installing drivers they had extension. So, not sure if this answers your question. Here is a link to LGR video talking about installing a voodoo2 in a mac 6400/180 maybe it can explain better what im talking about.
LGR: m.th-cam.com/video/mUlCkH5v938/w-d-xo.html
thanks a type :) i try make this old mac a old gamer mac this 4400/200 a compatible card here a solution one voodoo 2 put and perfect
thanks the answer :) and yes if mac a model type like 6100/66 it.s model have 486 dx 2 compatible card or 4400/200 model a pentium 166mhz compatible card model a bridge program modifiering more easy install a voodoo
00:24 what game is that 4-players mode?
It's battle tanx for Nintendo 64